Sound! Euphonium (light novel)
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L-Ryoshi said: Actar said: How ironic. Kaori didn't get to play even though she was better because her seniors had priority. Now, she's trying to do the exact same thing to Reina. Wow, I can understand how Yuuko feels, but man was she really getting on my nerves for trying to manipulate everyone for what she believes Kaori wants (only to fulfill her own selfish agenda). Maybe I'm just cynical and apathetic by nature, but I don't believe that someone can obsess (care) about someone to that extent. All in all, a very satisfying episode. Kaori had to be the one to refuse the part to drive it into the heads of all the others that she admits that Reina is better. Having the audience or Taki-sensei decide would all but ruin everything. Well played. You might want to try and change up that bold part. Kaori didn't try to do nothing to no one. She did her initial audition just like Reina did. She accepted Taki's initial decision, but kept practicing in case a chance for her came again. She did not force the issue, nor did she manipulate anyone else into forcing the issue. The one who made Taki reconsider his own decision was selfish Yuuko, only her. Kaori only took the second chance to prove her own worth. Anyone would have done so. Even in the second audition, when more of the band was voting for her, she did not "try to do the same thing to Reina". She deferred the Solo part to Reina by herself, even after Taki asked if she would play the Solo. Kaori has shown time and again that she does what is best for the Band as a whole. Don't be putting her down just because she stayed prepared in case there was a chance for her to prove her own worth to others. She has shown great humility and no shame in admitting to all present that Reina was more skilled than herself, and even when the Solo part COULD have been awarded to her, she only thought of what was best for the Band and GAVE the part to Reina. We're talking about a society where hierarchy and seniority is the norm and traditional expectation. Kaori's actions ultimately went against such norms and traditional thinking. Seriously guys, show Kaori some more respect! You're right to say that hierarchy and seniority is the norm and having felt what it's like to lose out to her seniors despite being the better player, I would have expected Kaori to be a little bit more empathetic to Reina and be a little bit more resolute when confronted with Yuuko's pushing. I would even argue that her constant practicing was due to the fact that she did not accept the initial audition results, but had to (pretend to) accept it as her public face and demeanor would not allow for such a confrontation until an opportunity was made for her by Yuuko. Do remember that it was her dream to play the solo. Also remember that the initial auditions were held in private and the final one together, in front of everyone else. It is because she and everyone else was confronted with the undeniable evidence of Reina's superior playing that she finally admitted that Reina should be the one to play the solo. Was it for the sake of the band? Or was it because she knew that she would be only deluding herself and painting herself to be a sore loser if she decided to take on the solo part when everyone could clearly tell that Reina was the better player? I personally see validity in both interpretations, but I guess I'm just cynical that way. |
ActarJun 17, 2015 5:29 AM
| Beautiful execution to Kosaka in the final, but the little twist occurred soon after, I was about to deceive, I really enjoyed that. Good growth in interpersonal relationships, it encounters the yuri, will be a real thing or just a bluff? Intriguing, how interesting it is to see how the story will evolve from now on. Good implementation by KyoAni regarding drawings and set designs, this series is not disappointing but who knows if there will soon be a second season, the current one is too short to tell all the stories and give a complete picture of the protagonists. |
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| Asuka x Kaori is my new ship:D Really, they kill me with Reina and Kumiko's scenes! Why, why Reina had to say that she likes the teacher?! But know what? I will ship them anyway!!! |
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| I died on the Reina x Kumiko scene. And I like how they end the audition in the best possible way. |
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| Hmm alright episode. Reina deserved to win. Tho the random Reina x Kumiko ship? Yeah.........idk. |
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| Dat imaginary KISS ... |
| The teasing is real I must admit |
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| Magnificent episode! I will definitely buy it if I got a chance. |
Actar said: You're right to say that hierarchy and seniority is the norm and having felt what it's like to lose out to her seniors despite being the better player, I would have expected Kaori to be a little bit more empathetic to Reina and be a little bit more resolute when confronted with Yuuko's pushing. I would even argue that her constant practicing was due to the fact that she did not accept the initial audition results, but had to (pretend to) accept it as her public face and demeanor would not allow for such a confrontation until an opportunity was made for her by Yuuko. Do remember that it was her dream to play the solo. Also remember that the initial auditions were held in private and the final one together, in front of everyone else. It is because she and everyone else was confronted with the undeniable evidence of Reina's superior playing that she finally admitted that Reina should be the one to play the solo. Was it for the sake of the band? Or was it because she knew that she would be only deluding herself and painting herself to be a sore loser if she decided to take on the solo part when everyone could clearly tell that Reina was the better player? I personally see validity in both interpretations, but I guess I'm just cynical that way. Considering how cynical I myself can be at times, I do see and understand your view. However, consider this: Per what the Novel readers spoiled last episodes thread, more members of the Band voted for Kaori after the second audition (for whatever reasons, it doesn't matter). Taki, despite thinking that the band would vote based on sound like he did, was in the end forced to defer to her decision on whether or not to play the Solo part (for fear of selecting Reina himself and appearing biased). The decision WAS in Kaori's hands because the vote was in her favor. She had every right to accept the Solo position as her own since she had fulfilled the minimum requirement of Taki to take that part by number of votes. Kaori is in her last year of High School, after which she would be attending either college or university, be they in another district, in another town, another prefecture, or heck maybe in another country. After which she would be heading straight to the work force perhaps in another city or country. There's a pretty high chance that she wouldn't meet with any of her fellow band mates ever again after graduating if she didn't want to, so why would she even care about what they thought of her? We are talking about a hierarchy and seniority based society, where disrespecting elders is a bigger indiscretion than wasting talent. Also, as you yourself stated, it was her dream to play the Solo part. Given this was going to be the last Competition that she would be playing in High School, added to what she means to the Band as a whole, ALONG with the fact that, as Yuuko so eloquently put it, Reina still had two years after this to play the Solo in the Band, I highly doubt anyone in the band would ever fault her for putting her own wishes ahead of the bands interest FOR ONCE, even if it meant sacrificing a bit of quality in the sound and competitiveness of the Band. Given her advantageous result in the vote, hence the obvious support from her fellow band mates, Kaori could very well have followed through with her own selfish wish and elected to play the Solo part herself with no fear of painting herself in a bad light. That she didn't do so speaks major volumes about her own character. All points considered, I still stick by my point that she deserves respect for all that she ended up doing by ceding the Solo parts to Reina, at the expense of her own personal wish. She wants whats best for the Band as a whole, and personally I think it's plain to see. She's the REAL MVP. |
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bastek66 said: Ririka said: I don't think they would see this pairing through until the end. So this is just another bait maybe, but they just crossed the line. (=w=)" Anyone not delusional will notice that Kumiko was referencing Reina's speech from episode 8. and that episode was also a yuri bait, so there's nothing "delusional" in there. |
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ooo333 said: Those scenes of the female MC and Reina is not yuri. That is just how females act around each other. You can tell by the fact that so many actual lesbians are shipping them. Look guys, it's subtext, right? It's open to interpretation, right? So there is nothing "they're obviously just friends and that's that" about them. And just because some straight women are physically intimate with each other doesn't mean that lesbians have to invent a new kind of romance just to differentiate them from touchy feely straight girls. |
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| At this point the only thing I would say is that Kumiko and Reina's relationship is just beautiful, I dont care if its friendship or romantically, its perfect and I want to keep seeing more of these two in the next two episodes, seriously, nobody cant argue to me that their scenes together aren't the best. Also I need to aplaud to the VA I swear there's moments where they sound so intimate and it gives me chills, like the time Kumiko calls "Reina" for the first time and in this episode, Reina's "Would you stay with me?" so godamn perfect. |
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| Goosebumps, man. Better than ritalin. |
| Yesssss Yuri confirm !! |
Lollo36 said: fst said: What, you mean you don't do that with your friends? Stop fantasizing about nonexistent romance and go to sleep. It's not gay until they marry each other, the rest is just subtext and bait. You guys are so fake. One minute you guys are bashing KyoAni for "obvious baiting everyone into thinking yuri by intentionally creating romantic scenes between two female characters where you believe there is none" and then when a few of us actually begin to see that maybe there IS something romantic there you are scream "no, this is obviously friendship!!1!" Pathetic. I don't see Sapphire and Hazuki making confessions of love in ep 8 and now this one, do you? If that's what we're calling friendship now, does this make Sapphire and Hazuki not friends??? Take the het goggles off and stop running in circles. Canon or not, there is something there. |
| Every second oozed class but three scenes were especially pitch perfect. Shuuichi and Kumiko's scene, the 'Yuri' scene(even though I'm a Shuuichi shipper), and the flashback and Yuuko crying at the end. |
DarcyD said: Lollo36 said: Stop fantasizing about nonexistent romance and go to sleep. It's not gay until they marry each other, the rest is just subtext and bait. You guys are so fake. One minute you guys are bashing KyoAni for "obvious baiting everyone into thinking yuri by intentionally creating romantic scenes between two female characters where you believe there is none" and then when a few of us actually begin to see that maybe there IS something romantic there you are scream "no, this is obviously friendship!!1!" Pathetic. I don't see Sapphire and Hazuki making confessions of love in ep 8 and now this one, do you? If that's what we're calling friendship now, does this make Sapphire and Hazuki not friends??? Take the het goggles off and stop running in circles. Canon or not, there is something there. I was sarcastic :) That scene was as gay as it gets, the only way not to see it like that is if you start making meta-considerations like "in the source material..." or "typical Kyoani bait", Imho. |
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Lollo36 said: DarcyD said: You guys are so fake. One minute you guys are bashing KyoAni for "obvious baiting everyone into thinking yuri by intentionally creating romantic scenes between two female characters where you believe there is none" and then when a few of us actually begin to see that maybe there IS something romantic there you are scream "no, this is obviously friendship!!1!" Pathetic. I don't see Sapphire and Hazuki making confessions of love in ep 8 and now this one, do you? If that's what we're calling friendship now, does this make Sapphire and Hazuki not friends??? Take the het goggles off and stop running in circles. Canon or not, there is something there. I was sarcastic :) That scene was as gay as it gets, the only way not to see it like that is if you start making meta-considerations like "in the source material..." or "typical Kyoani bait", Imho. Lmao no I know, I didn't mean you. I meant 8man-in-the-flesh and Imeon. |
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| Kaori was surprisingly mature. I love how you could obviously tell the difference between the two perfomances. |
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Caramichael said: I could sense something move inside me that Kaori play didn't do to me. Yeah me to :) Reina was more precise, like extending the right parts of the song and it immediately caught the ear. Thankfully Kaori was honest :3 |
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| So, the episode just starts and Shuichi gets called out to demonstrate his part. It's weak and I'm thinking, Shuichi, put some air though that horn! There have got to be more players like this. This group, as a whole, is not ready to go to nationals. This will bias my view going into trumpet trial. Yuko's jealous and doesn't understand how Reina can be this good. If Reina were open enough, she would explain to people that she's been doing this for a very log time. She's not a miracle, or a prodigy; just an exception to the rule. She is incredibility well practiced for her age. Her dad is an accomplished trumpet player. Read: free, complete, competent, daily lessons; daily support for practice; a place of constant encouragement. Probably had a trumpet place in the crib with her. She was probably feed her breast milk through a trumpet. O.k., I went too far. This group did not understand what they voted for at the beginning of the year. 'Let's try for nationals, wouldn't that be nifty!' I'd say only Kuniko, Reina, and the instructor understood the level of commitment. Thus: Yuko tries to make the case, Kaori deserves the part due to what Kaori had done for the band in the past. She even points out to Reina the next two years opportunities when the band *is better*. It would be one thing for Yuko to ask Reina to *withdraw*; deference to Reina's skill and deference to Kaori's efforts. Instead, Yuko ask her to throw the audition. Just down right rude. Reina missed the opportunity to explain she's been working hard, long before coming to this school, to get this good, and this is about always putting on the best performances for nationals. Instead, Reina makes it all about her, 'It doesn't matter to me'. Then just walks out. What does it mean to Reina's emotions[1]. Reina has put up a wall, a mask, so that she never becomes emotionally invested [1] in Kaori or anyone else who might get culled. Well, except for Kaori; I point you back to Episode 9 (15'30") where Reina feels exposed. I've written Yuko off as a two dimensional character used to magnify the heartache between playing for the fun of it, and commitment to competitive performances. When Kuniko[2] and Reina are talking on the bridge. Reina admits to Kuniko [2], that Kaori is a good person, and that's what makes this difficult. Wait, Reina isn't glad that Kaori understands the problem, and Koari tries to set a professional tone? Instead, would Reina prefer Kaori were selfish, making it easier to kick Kaori to the curb? Note how Kuniko's says 'Huh?', a form of asking for clarification, but Reina cuts her off, ' Never mind'. I know trying to stretch a point is poor logic, but Reina's character is making me queasy. I submit that Reina is a private person who is averse to becoming emotionally invested[1] in someone who might get culled. I pause here before this test wall gets to long. [Note 1] To become close friends with For clarity, I'm talking about a close bond of friendship. [Edit: Note 2] Meant to write Kuniko and Reina were talking on the bridge |
MelatoninJun 17, 2015 6:23 PM
DarcyD said: Lollo36 said: I was sarcastic :) That scene was as gay as it gets, the only way not to see it like that is if you start making meta-considerations like "in the source material..." or "typical Kyoani bait", Imho. Lmao no I know, I didn't mean you. I meant 8man-in-the-flesh and Imeon. If you're asking me to remove my het goggles to see the so called "yuri" , kindly removed your yuri goggle while watching that particular scene. Reina already said that she loves Sensei. If this particular actions/behavior of girls for you makes them lesbians, then all girls in anime and IRL who do the same are lesbians too? When Reina said that confession in episode 10, Reina x Kumiko is now far from impossible to occur. You seen it and you're ignoring it and instead believe in a subtext. |
RPSB9Jun 17, 2015 1:32 PM
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Imeon said: If you're asking me to remove my het goggles to see the so called "yuri" , kindly removed your yuri goggle while watching that particular scene. Reina already said that she loves Sensei. If this particular actions/behavior of girls for you makes them lesbians, then all girls in anime and IRL who do the same are lesbians too? When Reina said that confession in episode 10, Reina x Kumiko is now far from impossible to occur. You seen it and you're ignoring it and instead believe in a subtext. I'm not saying that this will end with a gay couple (it won't), I'm saying that the confession scene was unmistakably framed as romantic. Does Kumiko act like that with their other female friends? Not even close; it's quite the opposite, in fact. Do female friends IRL wishper declarations like "I'll always be by your side" "I'll kill you if you don't" while caressing each other's face? Maybe. Kumiko does it after she was shown being indecisive about asking Reina to have lunch with her, after declaring that she finds her special, and after the confession, she makes an expressions that just says everything that needs to be said. Once again, Reina being in love with the teacher doesn't stop Kumiko from being in love with her. Is this shameless, inconsequential bait? Yes, it is. We don't know this because the show told us, but because we know that the animation studio is doing this on purpose, and it's damaging Hibike's quality. Kyoani crossed the limit in this episode. If they're not going to address Kumiko's obvious attraction towards Reina (and they won't), I'll consider it a flaw. |
Lollo36Jun 17, 2015 2:10 PM
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Lollo36 said: I'm not saying that this will end with a gay couple (it won't), I'm saying that the confession scene was unmistakably framed as romantic. Does Kumiko act like that with their other female friends? Not even close; it's quite the opposite, in fact. Do female friends IRL wishper declarations like "I'll always be by your side" "I'll kill you if you don't" while caressing each other's face? Maybe. Kumiko does it after she was shown being indecisive about asking Reina to have lunch with her, after declaring how special she finds her, and after the confession, she makes an expressions that just says everything that needs to be said. Once again, Reina being in love with the teacher doesn't stop Kumiko from being in love with her. Is this shameless, inconsequential bait? Yes. We know this not because the show told us, but because we know that the animation studio is doing this on purpose, and it's damaging Hibike's quality. Kyoani crossed the line in this episode. If they're not going to address Kumiko's obvious attraction towards Reina (and they won't), I'll consider it a flaw. I talking to Naruto I have nothing against you my friend, the truth is I agree that Kyoani is crossing the line. They've put so much effort on the scenes when Kumiko and Reina together. But it can't be help, since the scenes are in the novel as well. I'm just annoyed why Kyoani is taking the bait to a new level but in the end, they will just hurt the crowd. Well, that's their marketing strategy, "putting every subtext they can put in it, without messing the original source." |
RPSB9Jun 17, 2015 2:10 PM
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Imeon said: in the end, they will just hurt the crowd. I highly doubt there's anyone who will be hurt, I'm sure most are expecting a open ending. You acknowledge that yuri is there, even if it is "bait", so why question everyone else for seeing what they see from it? It won't be bait unless this season ends with some kind of confirmation in the other direction and it's not as if they're going to commit the last 2 episodes to Shuuichi when they are now focusing on nationals. If you're saying there is a chance for sequels where they'll end up showing Shuuichi end, then that's an entirely different story and irrelevant to whatever is going to happen now. So could we please drop this? |
Lollo36 said: fst said: What, you mean you don't do that with your friends? Stop fantasizing about nonexistent romance and go to sleep. It's not gay until they marry each other, the rest is just subtext and bait. But what if gay marriage isn't legal where they live? |
fst said: Lollo36 said: Stop fantasizing about nonexistent romance and go to sleep. It's not gay until they marry each other, the rest is just subtext and bait. But what if gay marriage isn't legal where they live? They'll marry in the movie sequel, which is set during their holidays in Paris. |
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Lollo36 said: But what if gay marriage isn't legal where they live? They'll marry in the movie sequel, which is set during their holidays in Paris. And now I need to see that sequel .... seriously with all their yuri baiting, KyoAni could already make a parallel story like short short ep where the yuri would be real |
| How many of you want to see more and how many of you are okay if the anime ended here and now (that is right after the competition)? Personally, I want more. I will not be satisfied with 2 episodes only. We really need a sequel. Not a movie, otherwise they will have to skip most of the original contents to cram in an hour and 30 minutes movie If KyoAni is allowed to deviate from the original content, hoping that they would get the permission from the author to change it which would be the first If they have to stick with the original content |
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| The yuri bait is real! Glad the part went to Reina, you rock girl. |
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ChaliElle said: Ziassan said: Their is really people thinking seriously that "confession of love" sentence was anything yuri apparently.. she talked about Kousaka doing her best playing as her "confession" to Taki sensei, I thought it was quite obvious. I think you forgot about their talk in episode 8 and how "confession of love" described there. Kumiko already in episode 6 showed that she likes to "talk back" to Kousaka. That's one of the traits of her character cumulatively described as horrible is what Reina is fond of. |
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| I really can't believe how much hate there is for yuri in all the Hibike threads. I highly doubt that anything is really going to happen between the two, but what we're being shown is far deeper than an ordinary friendship. I've read a lot of yuri manga, and, in a purely non-sexual fashion, these two girls are as intimate as, if not moreso, a lot of yuri pairings that I've seen. As I said, no they won't end up together, but you've got to admit that the studio is practically beating us over the head with a freakin' yuri bat |
| "Let's make a miracle happen using the power of friendship." "If that was all it took, there'd be no need for training arcs!" "Normal rabbits don't carry guns!" |
| I'm just as glad that they did not kiss. It wasn't needed. The scene was spot on as is. A kiss would have been too much, I think, like too much spice or salt in a dish. |
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Imeon said: Lollo36 said: I'm not saying that this will end with a gay couple (it won't), I'm saying that the confession scene was unmistakably framed as romantic. Does Kumiko act like that with their other female friends? Not even close; it's quite the opposite, in fact. Do female friends IRL wishper declarations like "I'll always be by your side" "I'll kill you if you don't" while caressing each other's face? Maybe. Kumiko does it after she was shown being indecisive about asking Reina to have lunch with her, after declaring how special she finds her, and after the confession, she makes an expressions that just says everything that needs to be said. Once again, Reina being in love with the teacher doesn't stop Kumiko from being in love with her. Is this shameless, inconsequential bait? Yes. We know this not because the show told us, but because we know that the animation studio is doing this on purpose, and it's damaging Hibike's quality. Kyoani crossed the line in this episode. If they're not going to address Kumiko's obvious attraction towards Reina (and they won't), I'll consider it a flaw. I talking to Naruto I have nothing against you my friend, the truth is I agree that Kyoani is crossing the line. They've put so much effort on the scenes when Kumiko and Reina together. But it can't be help, since the scenes are in the novel as well. I'm just annoyed why Kyoani is taking the bait to a new level but in the end, they will just hurt the crowd. Well, that's their marketing strategy, "putting every subtext they can put in it, without messing the original source." You're arguing with me for a dumb reason. We both acknowledge that yuri is there, even though you dislike it and I enjoy it, it's there. Stop trying to spin it into someone other than what it is, yuri subtext. I don't caress my best friend's face and ask her to stay with me while she talks about a confession of love. You know who I do that with? My BOYFRIEND. Let's be real and acknowledge the romance. The INTENDED romance! Even if it's not canon, it is there. |
| You guys put too much thought in it. Be it yuri or not, enjoy the show! It's superb! One of the best shows this season. Personally, I'm OK if it ends up withKumiko x Reina. Or Kumiko x Shuichu. Or Shuichi x Hazuki. Everything is fine as long as it isn't Shuichi x Taki-sensei. |
| KyoAni is infuriating. Regardless of the whole same-sex relationship issue and just using it as bait, Kumiko and Reina actually have the best chemistry. Otherwise... Tension was palpable. Visuals are stunning (as always). Reina's solo gave me goosebumps. #letmetouchyourtubakun |
| Glad that salty bitch Kaori didn't get the part. This whole thing shouldn't have happened, she's clearly not as good as Kousaka, therefore Kousaka gets the part. Stop being a salty bitch, Kaori. |
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DarcyD said: Imeon said: I talking to Naruto I have nothing against you my friend, the truth is I agree that Kyoani is crossing the line. They've put so much effort on the scenes when Kumiko and Reina together. But it can't be help, since the scenes are in the novel as well. I'm just annoyed why Kyoani is taking the bait to a new level but in the end, they will just hurt the crowd. Well, that's their marketing strategy, "putting every subtext they can put in it, without messing the original source." You're arguing with me for a dumb reason. We both acknowledge that yuri is there, even though you dislike it and I enjoy it, it's there. Stop trying to spin it into someone other than what it is, yuri subtext. I don't caress my best friend's face and ask her to stay with me while she talks about a confession of love. You know who I do that with? My BOYFRIEND. Let's be real and acknowledge the romance. The INTENDED romance! Even if it's not canon, it is there. I'm arguing based on facts that already been shown in the series and not on mere subtexts that can be interpreted in any way we wanted it to see. It's just funny that you are making facts our of subtext: Here's the facts that we all KNOW already: 1. The anime isn't categories as shoujo-ai. If the MC is gay, then it should be labelled as Music, SoL and Shoujo-Ai. You can say that yuri is just secondary element, but it only works if it's the secondary characters are the ones that are gay. If Kumiko is gay, which is our main character, it makes yuri the central element regardless if the theme of the anime is Music, etc. But it wasn't labelled so we can't expect too much to say it's really yuri. 2. Reina is inlove with Sensei. Don't ignore it, you read it, you heard it, and you seen it. 3. Shuichi is there. We know he likes Kumiko . He did not exist in the anime for nothing. Yeah, she's ignoring him for now because there is something that happened between them and Hazuki but then again, he did not exist in the anime for nothing. 4. This is Kyoani. You know what I mean. If you still believe and believe til the end. |
RPSB9Jun 18, 2015 5:05 AM
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YoKamis said: Jezus christ. Although I skipped a lot of episodes ( not even worth marathon ) , the characters are always exaggerate on something SO small like the audition for who will play the solo part? Why would the ribbon girl give so much f**ks ? As far as the ribbon girl, yeah shes just butthurt. But have you ever played an instrument in a serious setting like this? It's not a joke at all. |
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Imeon said: I'm arguing based on facts that already been shown in the series and not on mere subtexts that can be interpreted in any way we wanted it to see. It's just funny that you are making facts our of subtext: Here's the facts that we all KNOW already: 1. The anime isn't categories as shoujo-ai. If the MC is gay, then it should be labelled as Music, SoL and Shoujo-Ai. You can say that yuri is just secondary element, but it only works if it's the secondary characters are the ones that are gay. If Kumiko is gay, which is our main character, it makes yuri the central element regardless if the theme of the anime is Music, etc. But it wasn't labelled so we can't expect too much to say it's really yuri. What does MAL even know about the series before it even finishes airing? They can only base it on the source material. MAL tags aren't trustworthy anyways. 2. Reina is inlove with Sensei. Don't ignore it, you read it, you heard it, and you seen it. So, this is a fact, while the other 2 confessions are open to interpretation. 3. Shuichi is there. We know he likes Kumiko . He did not exist in the anime for nothing. Yeah, she's ignoring him for now because there is something that happened between them and Hazuki but then again, he did not exist in the anime for nothing. How many times does Kumiko have to say that she doesn't like him before she gets her point across? Is this a fact or is it open to interpretation? Imeon said: 4. This is Kyoani. You know what I mean. If you still believe and believe til the end. Points 1 and 4 have nothing to do with the actual content of the show. Points 2 and 3 are facts only because they support your point, while the scenes that go against it are open to interpretation. Do you already know what happens in the source material? It seems like it may be the most obvious source of all this confidence on your part. |
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