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Aug 22, 2009 6:39 AM

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Nayrael said:
Keep in mind one thing tough: the info there isn't 100% correct.
And another one as well: it can VERY easily create misunderstanding.

If you REALLY want to get spoiled, get the VN and play it. If you are impatient, I'll give you the password for chapter 3.


But it would be the best to wait till anime ends and not spoil youself in any way.

This is available for PC?

Pretty cool I read the endings but is there really a choice
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Aug 22, 2009 6:58 AM

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^ You can play it on your PC or DVD player.

Nayrael said:
Keep in mind one thing tough: the info there isn't 100% correct.
And another one as well: it can VERY easily create misunderstanding.

If you REALLY want to get spoiled, get the VN and play it. If you are impatient, I'll give you the password for chapter 3.


But it would be the best to wait till anime ends and not spoil youself in any way.


Oh! Could you give me the password for chapter 3? I've been trying to play the game, but just don't have the time. I've had it for a few days an am still only a little ways after the 2nd password in chapter 1 T_T I really only want to play it for chapter 3.
Aug 22, 2009 7:04 AM

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The game password for chapter 3 is OCTELDMF, for all paths.
Aug 22, 2009 7:26 AM

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THANK-YOU!

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Aug 22, 2009 12:08 PM
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Pretty good ep. Though for the first half I felt like I was watching a completely different show hehe.

The age thing is beyond messed up, though. I mean, I've come to expect to see characters who look older than they actually are in anime, but at least other animes are somewhat consistent with the exagerations.

This one just doesn't make a whole lotta sense and it kinda ruins the whole "passage of time" thing they've been doing since the start. I thought Reiji was a college student in the earlier episodes, Elen was probably your standard high-school girl. A year later, Reiji looks like a playboy in his 20s, and Cal is a typical loli. Now, 2 years have passed and Reiji and Elen are both high schoolers...

...and Cal looks like she's in her 20s for crying out loud! ><;
Aug 22, 2009 12:13 PM

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The age thing is beyond messed up, though. I mean, I've come to expect to see characters who look older than they actually are in anime, but at least other animes are somewhat consistent with the exagerations.

This one just doesn't make a whole lotta sense and it kinda ruins the whole "passage of time" thing they've been doing since the start. I thought Reiji was a college student in the earlier episodes, Elen was probably your standard high-school girl. A year later, Reiji looks like a playboy in his 20s, and Cal is a typical loli. Now, 2 years have passed and Reiji and Elen are both high schoolers...

...and Cal looks like she's in her 20s for crying out loud! ><;

Yeah I think we've become quite aware that there seems to be something wrong with the time, I mean.. well.. you know what I mean : D
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Aug 22, 2009 3:00 PM
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The beginning of this episode was quite the "WTF!?!?" but things got back on track after the halfway mark. With this though I'm more interested in real ages now... I mean come on Reiji and Elen in a high school, really?
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Aug 22, 2009 4:50 PM

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NeloDeath said:
The beginning of this episode was quite the "WTF!?!?" but things got back on track after the halfway mark. With this though I'm more interested in real ages now... I mean come on Reiji and Elen in a high school, really?

I guess it has to do with having a dream of some sorts about a normal life and too bad it was to end sooner or later.

Aug 22, 2009 5:09 PM

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Damn...Cal turned into a mega babe. Hotter than Elen, and has bigger boobs than her. She looks older than Reiji too...something's wrong there :/ Maybe Scythe pumped her full of something to make her boobs giant. He IS a super pedo after all. God knows what he's done.

I liked Cal when she was little. I dunno about her now...seems kinda bitchy.

Aug 22, 2009 9:51 PM

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What... happened... to Cal? O_o I mean nobody can... "grow up" that much in only 2 years. -_- This is ridiculous, it feels like they're throwing in random fanservice to please everyone and so the Cal fans can now fap with a clean conscience. -_-
Aug 22, 2009 11:43 PM

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Still, new Cal > past Cal imo, I really thought Cal was just an annoying brat before, sure, she looks a bit bitchy and stuff now, but it sure's better than before.
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Aug 23, 2009 12:35 AM

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Oosran said:
Still, new Cal > past Cal imo, I really thought Cal was just an annoying brat before, sure, she looks a bit bitchy and stuff now, but it sure's better than before.


To be a little more correct with the facts here Cal was never the Tsundere kind of loli. Compared to other lolis in many anime she was far from annoying. Is just that the audience is not exactly loli people and they had already empathize with Ein.
Aug 23, 2009 12:37 AM

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What... happened... to Cal? O_o I mean nobody can... "grow up" that much in only 2 years. -_- This is ridiculous, it feels like they're throwing in random fanservice to please everyone and so the Cal fans can now fap with a clean conscience. -_-


Thats because a loli would not really fit the personality of a kickass action character what grown up Cal is.
Aug 24, 2009 7:35 PM

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hahaha...Cal's growth was just ridiculously funny.
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Aug 28, 2009 1:40 PM

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First 12 minutes were boring. But I like new Cal's look. XD
Does that mean Claudia is dead? I guess so.

I hope Zwei (Reji or whatever) will be better than Cal. I can't wait to see what will happen next!
And there will be more Phantoms? (In the OP?!) But I'm afraid if the plot's going to be finished nicely as long as there are just 6 eps to the end.

About the ages: they have false passports so couldn't they just change it?
And Zwei comes to America as a tourist. 15-year-old boy traveling alone?
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No way...!!

Aug 30, 2009 4:43 PM

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Eto... I'm not sure if I like this sudden change of mood and place.

Firstly, Cal's growth is simply absurd. No one could become like that in only 2 years. Her transformation from cute loli to busty beauty is non-sense and biologically impossible.

Also, old Ein > new Ein.

And why changing the OP/ED themes at only 6 episodes far from the end? Ok, the setting changes so it's better if the songs change too, but the old ones were much better, the new ones are dull and boring.

Lastly... I suppose Claudia is actually dead, after all.

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Sep 3, 2009 1:28 PM

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ALI PROJECT. Ruining your animu since...

And Cal. Two Years. Damn, this series got ridiculous again.
Sep 6, 2009 8:37 PM

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At first I was like - is this the same anime? What's with the happy-go-lucky opening?

Cal sure grew up fast.
Sep 9, 2009 6:46 PM

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Odd change....but still good enough to keep me interested. Hopefully nothing is rushed within these last 6 episodes.
Sep 10, 2009 9:51 AM
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Wait. Cal isn't a Loli anymore??? Damn that! What happen to her?

Ok i understand that everyone ages, but in 2 years, but it Drei looks like 5 at least older, as for Ein and Swei they dont age at all for 2 years. what's the deal???
Sep 12, 2009 10:05 AM

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back to school XD
I thought Elen and Reiji were older

Ca totally lost her cuteness, she looked like a porn star ;D
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Sep 14, 2009 12:59 PM

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funny how big you can grow in 2 years...
Sep 15, 2009 12:51 PM

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Wel how did cal become like that so soon....it must be the steroids...he he...i really liked cal before..she was really cute...its wierd to call her cute now....and i dont understand the age thing...do ein and zwei treat eachother like brother and sister...i wanted them to be lovers....this really pissed me of..wat the hell...
at the beginnig i really thought i was watching a shoujo anime...confusing ep must say...
Sep 16, 2009 8:04 PM

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cal~ <3
Sep 19, 2009 1:03 PM

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Eeurghh....I hate the new opening. I really dislike Ali Project, their music all sounds the goddamn same, it's boring as hell. I hate the up and down tempo they use.

Anyways, I have to say the first half of this episode was just bizarre. I felt like I was watching some generic high school romance series. >.> It sort of hurt my brain, haha.

Now, for the most important part...WHAT THE FUCK is with Cal's growth? Seriously, if they're going to say '2 Years Later', then make it damn believable. This is just ridiculous. It would have to be like 5 years at the least to make her look like that. *shakes head* Why are animes so horrible when it comes to ages and timing.

I also find it hard to believe that Scythe could have turned her so much against Reiji. She really adored him, and you'd think she'd be smart enough to spot a liar.
Sep 20, 2009 4:05 AM

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i prefer Cal as a little girl, this one just look like a gangster

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Oct 1, 2009 3:06 AM

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Cal looks just like Claudia now, kind of annoying (especially with the extra fan service).. No idea how they will rap this up in 6 more episodes!
Oct 11, 2009 9:28 PM

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OKAY, I WAS SHOCKED. LOL, TURNED OUT TO BE CAL IN THE MOTORCYCLE.

FIRST OF ALL, HOW'D CAL GET THOSE TITS? FAKES, ANYONE?
SECOND, ISN'T SHE A LOLI LIKE 2 YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING? NOW SHE BECAME LIKE CLAUDIA. WTF IS GOING ON?! SCYTHE MASTER PROBABLY COMMANDED CAL TO DRINK LOTS OF MILK OR SOMETHIN'.

Okay, didn't expected Cal to be that hot. Fucking Sycthe Master corrupted another girl. Out of all the girls in the series, it's gotta be Cal. Blah.

Elen and Reiji going to school and living a normal life in 2 years is really epic.
Damn, didn't really expect this to happen.
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Again? I mean, didn't we already watch this? He thinks the girl is dead and she reapers later as his enemy... This time instead of Ein it will be Cal.

Old Cal > New Cal
Old Ein > New Ein

Cal grew ridiculously fast... From DFC to A cup in two years...
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what the hell?!?!

Where's my beloved KARMA opening?!

oh, and:

Where's the last tiny bit of FREAKIN' reason in this stupid series?!

Come on, a school romance comedy?! How old is that stupid protagonist? And Cal? From a lonely little loli to a big bust motorbikebroad in only two years?!
How can this protagonist dude actually live a peaceful life with all those dead bodies on his mind (remember, he killed mothers and little children, too)?!

I can't say I liked the anime much before, but THAT is the most ridiculous story twist I have ever seen and I'm really not sure if I should follow this nonsense any further...-.-
Feb 21, 2010 11:39 PM

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MikeOnHighway61 said:
what the hell?!?!

Where's my beloved KARMA opening?!

oh, and:

Where's the last tiny bit of FREAKIN' reason in this stupid series?!

Come on, a school romance comedy?! How old is that stupid protagonist? And Cal? From a lonely little loli to a big bust motorbikebroad in only two years?!
How can this protagonist dude actually live a peaceful life with all those dead bodies on his mind (remember, he killed mothers and little children, too)?!

I can't say I liked the anime much before, but THAT is the most ridiculous story twist I have ever seen and I'm really not sure if I should follow this nonsense any further...-.-


The ending is bitter sweet, so if you like that kind of ending, just finish the anime, you only have 6 episode left. What I did was skip parts and ended up watching one episode in 6-8 minutes, because I was really annoyed at the Zwei - Cal missunderstanding.
Feb 22, 2010 2:38 AM

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werr-y said:
MikeOnHighway61 said:
what the hell?!?!

Where's my beloved KARMA opening?!

oh, and:

Where's the last tiny bit of FREAKIN' reason in this stupid series?!

Come on, a school romance comedy?! How old is that stupid protagonist? And Cal? From a lonely little loli to a big bust motorbikebroad in only two years?!
How can this protagonist dude actually live a peaceful life with all those dead bodies on his mind (remember, he killed mothers and little children, too)?!

I can't say I liked the anime much before, but THAT is the most ridiculous story twist I have ever seen and I'm really not sure if I should follow this nonsense any further...-.-


The ending is bitter sweet, so if you like that kind of ending, just finish the anime, you only have 6 episode left. What I did was skip parts and ended up watching one episode in 6-8 minutes, because I was really annoyed at the Zwei - Cal missunderstanding.


Yeah, you're right, thanks, I guess I was just a little angry^^

I'm just gonna skip through the last episodes, don't need to see all those having fun at school and being in love with the yakuza's daughter parts while big-bust cal is lurking in the dark waiting for her ridiculous revenge...-.-
Jun 4, 2010 1:26 PM

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Two things bother me about this episode. First, why are reiji and elen in school? I was under the impression previously that they were like in there 20's. Second, how the hell did Cal mature so much in only 2 years?? >.> Other than that, stuff looks like it's going to get interesting.

3/5.


Aug 10, 2010 4:02 AM

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Oookay.... What..the..FUCK..was THAT!? First half made me wanna go to Japan and kill the makers of the show.

Ok, ok, I get it that Elen and Reiji want to live their lives anew and leave the past behind. But it was the stupidest idea ever to have them go to school and introduce slice of life, teensies romance school shit to the series, even though short lasting they may be. Minus one point for that alone.

This can only be forgiven with the death of the new character, Sanae. Only this way, can this series prove that they still live up to their former glory.

Worse even is Ein's development as a religious person. Was that really necessairy? She has to work hard now for me to like again.

And how the Hell did Cal grow like that in only two years? What the fuck was she taking? Freaking Steroids? LOL ....Talk about being stupid. Hands down, the worst episode of this series till now and by far too.

New intro was total shit as well.

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Aug 29, 2010 11:22 PM
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Back in high school...there are no words.

Cal...well...wow.
Nov 20, 2010 8:59 PM

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I feel like this episode just fucked with my mind...

I also assumed that Reiji and Elen were in their 20's throughout the whole show, Cal was definitely like.. 11-12. -_-

Seeing Reiji and Elen acting like stereo-typical shojo anime characters kind of killed me a little inside. The reason I liked the series so much was because they DIDN'T act like that. -.-;; I'm really tempted to skip episodes but I feel like I'll miss important stuff..

aaaah. fuck.

I was pissed when they killed Elen and introduced Cal, but then she began to grow on me. And then this episode just bitch-slapped me in the face >_>
Dec 7, 2010 5:32 AM

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Cal has grown. A lot. In 2 years.
Wouldn't she be like, 12? And the show was so good until now.
Dec 7, 2010 11:45 AM

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She was 14 before, not 10.
Dec 12, 2010 2:19 AM

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Oh, I guess that makes more sense then.
Feb 4, 2011 2:57 PM

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I was surprised by the new opening, i really like Karma but i guess the new one isn't that bad, and even tho i could have seen it from a mile away it was nice to see Cal's alive even if they made her grow up ridiculously fast, but hey i guess everyone's different in how fast they grow up so i guess its fairly believable. I really wish Reiji and Ein could have lived that type of life forever, ah well i guess all good things must come to an end and this case Cal brought that end, its just like Reiji said her gunshot woke him up from his dream.
Mar 6, 2011 3:20 PM

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Hey Cal! Two years is along time so it's good to see you again...
Mar 6, 2011 3:21 PM

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Hey Cal! Two years is along time so it's good to see you again...
Apr 14, 2011 4:06 AM
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New intro and first half of the episode caught me off guard!

I guess in the end, the way they ended the slice of life bit with the return of Cal was well worth it. Luckily, I didn't turn off the episode before then because WTF!

Cover up, Cal!
May 21, 2011 12:40 PM
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That's one way to change things up. But old Cal looks ridiculous. how do you go from cute little kid to some sexpot in 2 years? She looked like she was 13 at first and now 21. Maybe Scythemaster is pumping his agents full of hormones or something.

And someone needs to hit that chick with the glasses. So damn annoying
May 27, 2011 2:05 PM

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They grew so much in 2 years. :3

Jun 10, 2011 6:10 AM
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my face when Cal showed up : :O
she matured,, LOL
Aug 19, 2011 7:01 AM

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Haaahahahaahahahaha oh hell no. Even for an anime that change in Cal is just too damn ridiculous. The other characters look exactly the same - so wtf?
Lame
Dec 23, 2011 3:24 PM
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ok even thoughthe ending was sick Whats up with animes turning into slice of life shit, no need for high school, but hofully the next 6 episodes deliver
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I also find it hard to believe Cal grew that much in only 2 years, but she looks incredibly sexy so why complain :3

It's a shame that Reiji cut his hair, though. Now he's back to his boring look :<
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