The World's Finest Assassin Gets Reincarnated in Another World as an Aristocrat (light novel)
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Nov 10, 2021 8:36 PM
#101
haha what the hell that was too fast! Lugh was extremely swift on taking care of those bastards huh...not that i complain...hehehe 5/5. |
Nov 10, 2021 8:36 PM
#102
GGcc78 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: I mean, I can't read the tweet but it seems like it was handled well. You can either want justice as your initial post indicated or you can want revenge. Without getting to into the philosphy of law and order, justice and vengence are not the same. You can't have both. In this case it seems as if they had justice since that dude got locked up. tiyoca1815 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: ACasualViewer said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: Taming_T said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: As for me, this is the worst episode so far for an otherwise good anime. Now I don't really mind the human trafficking/sexual assault plot devices, especially in anime with a medieval setting, but the execution of the episode was sloppy, frustrating, disappointing, and utterly insulting. Throughout the episode, I was seething in absolute anger, and if I daresay, it's the most angry I have felt in my whole life watching anime. The thing that really made me burst out the most is the payoff—the justice that happened. What was that? The justice served at the end wasn't justice at all. It felt like it was just a sorry excuse of how Maha gets introduced to Lugh. That doesn't address the main problem effectively. "Oh, so the Viscount was arrested and everyone is medetashii medetashii?" That's not enough at all, considering how the author is proficient in writing revenge-themed scenarios. What we needed to see was criminal blood, not fresh blood from an unblossomed lotus. Very disappointed with this episode. While I would want to hope that there would be capital punishment next episode, I only think it would be a 20/80 chance. Still very frustrating! I feel the exact same way while other people just enjoying it because the direction it’s going like maha joining the harem and the new identity but they just gonna forget about all that happened to the girls and say “they got what they deserved” which they really didn’t. Exactly. Lugh's so-called "justice" came in too late and the way he did it was super lackluster. I mean, I also liked the fact that Maha was joining the harem... at first. Now I am left feeling, like what I said earlier, seething rage on how this episode was executed. Given context, it looks like this took place 2 years before he even arrived in the city, he noticed she had magic and just approached then, not like he can save everyone before something bad happens. That's very true and agreeable, Casual-chan! But then again, that doesn't quite excuse the unsatisfactory "justice" that happened T-T If Lugh could get intelligence on how human traffickers operated in Episode 1 and absolutely destroyed their disgusting actions, I just think that there should also be an equivalent in Episode 6. Now we could try to hope that Episode 6's human traffickers would get something like of a capital punishment in Episode 7, but until that episode airs, we can only hope! Some behind the scene info are tweeted out by the author whenever an episode airs. The stuff he share probably wont be animated / mentioned at all. This one is in regards to criminals caught this time. https://twitter.com/Tsukiyo_rui/status/1458472021138894857 Reading the tweet, they got off too easily, in my opinion T-T Now I know the feeling of wanting to complain for more even though a conclusion is already drawn. "So you mean you aren't satisfied by that?" My answer is, sadly, yes T-T Although the consequences are somewhat severe... there's this human inclination for revenge that's left unsatisfied. Is it just me? It would also be counter to the whole point of the anime if the MC just started going around killing these guys. He's got a specific purpose and he seems to have already stretched his mandate a little bit by getting as involved as he did. It's hard to be an undercover assasin if you are going around killing people outside of your mission That's exactly one of the reasons why I keep saying the conclusion is unsatisfactory. Like what I have been saying a lot in other replies, Lugh has done everything he realistically can, so it's really frustrating that so far, the anime has only shown us that the culprits are merely arrested, which again, in my opinion, is simply not enough. Once again, Lugh can't do more than what he has done, so taking vengeance—which the oppressors deserve—most likely won't happen, making the frustrating scenario even more frustrating. |
Nov 10, 2021 8:42 PM
#103
AlexPaulLEWZ said: It sounds like you're more personally unfulfilled by how it ended rather than the ending actually being unsatisfactory. Hearing it described as unsatisfactory makes it seems like there is some error in how the story or episode was told. How the episode ended is pretty inkeeping with the rules and themes the story has laid down since the beginning and to be honest how it ended is in line with the rules of real world civil society. The episode is neither bad nor flawed in doing this.GGcc78 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: tiyoca1815 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: ACasualViewer said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: Taming_T said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: As for me, this is the worst episode so far for an otherwise good anime. Now I don't really mind the human trafficking/sexual assault plot devices, especially in anime with a medieval setting, but the execution of the episode was sloppy, frustrating, disappointing, and utterly insulting. Throughout the episode, I was seething in absolute anger, and if I daresay, it's the most angry I have felt in my whole life watching anime. The thing that really made me burst out the most is the payoff—the justice that happened. What was that? The justice served at the end wasn't justice at all. It felt like it was just a sorry excuse of how Maha gets introduced to Lugh. That doesn't address the main problem effectively. "Oh, so the Viscount was arrested and everyone is medetashii medetashii?" That's not enough at all, considering how the author is proficient in writing revenge-themed scenarios. What we needed to see was criminal blood, not fresh blood from an unblossomed lotus. Very disappointed with this episode. While I would want to hope that there would be capital punishment next episode, I only think it would be a 20/80 chance. Still very frustrating! I feel the exact same way while other people just enjoying it because the direction it’s going like maha joining the harem and the new identity but they just gonna forget about all that happened to the girls and say “they got what they deserved” which they really didn’t. Exactly. Lugh's so-called "justice" came in too late and the way he did it was super lackluster. I mean, I also liked the fact that Maha was joining the harem... at first. Now I am left feeling, like what I said earlier, seething rage on how this episode was executed. Given context, it looks like this took place 2 years before he even arrived in the city, he noticed she had magic and just approached then, not like he can save everyone before something bad happens. That's very true and agreeable, Casual-chan! But then again, that doesn't quite excuse the unsatisfactory "justice" that happened T-T If Lugh could get intelligence on how human traffickers operated in Episode 1 and absolutely destroyed their disgusting actions, I just think that there should also be an equivalent in Episode 6. Now we could try to hope that Episode 6's human traffickers would get something like of a capital punishment in Episode 7, but until that episode airs, we can only hope! Some behind the scene info are tweeted out by the author whenever an episode airs. The stuff he share probably wont be animated / mentioned at all. This one is in regards to criminals caught this time. https://twitter.com/Tsukiyo_rui/status/1458472021138894857 Reading the tweet, they got off too easily, in my opinion T-T Now I know the feeling of wanting to complain for more even though a conclusion is already drawn. "So you mean you aren't satisfied by that?" My answer is, sadly, yes T-T Although the consequences are somewhat severe... there's this human inclination for revenge that's left unsatisfied. Is it just me? It would also be counter to the whole point of the anime if the MC just started going around killing these guys. He's got a specific purpose and he seems to have already stretched his mandate a little bit by getting as involved as he did. It's hard to be an undercover assasin if you are going around killing people outside of your mission That's exactly one of the reasons why I keep saying the conclusion is unsatisfactory. Like what I have been saying a lot in other replies, Lugh has done everything he realistically can, so it's really frustrating that so far, the anime has only shown us that the culprits are merely arrested, which again, in my opinion, is simply not enough. Once again, Lugh can't do more than what he has done, so taking vengeance—which the oppressors deserve—most likely won't happen, making the frustrating scenario even more frustrating. |
Nov 10, 2021 9:47 PM
#104
SideCharacterKal said: I seriously don't get why people are complaining about Lugh's justice. He's not a fucking hero, he's an assassin. Maybe get that stuff into your head first and watch the show after that. The only reason why he went there was because he sensed someone with mana aka Maha. I can't say that I enjoyed the episode but I didn't dislike it either. It was handled well for most of the part beside that Maha was able to stay a virgin for almost 2 years for some reason (less than 12 years old) and the way-too-happy ending in the end. I guess that the LN did it better (didn't read it). I'm not sure if the manga covered this or I just completely forgot it. Well, I'm glad that we're finally going to see more of Maha (best girl). Lugh's new life has finally begun and it's completely different compared to his assassin life. The next few arcs are going to be amazing for real but the anime won't have enough to cover it all. But, I'm pretty sure this has a big chance to get a second season. I get that the episode most likely couldn’t go that way however the main subject of the complaint is about how did it make me feel not what i wish it was, and i just feel as if the good in this episode absolutely didn’t outweigh the bad which left me with an angry feeling. And i get that lugh couldn’t have punished them but they should have showed something even if it wasn’t lugh. |
Taming_TNov 10, 2021 10:14 PM
Nov 10, 2021 9:49 PM
#105
Ugh. When I saw the title was going to be about girls I really hoped it wouldn't go this way, but it absolutely went in the worst way possible... At least he fixed her facial scars before leaving... This quote really summed up my feelings: I think the worst part for me wasn't the self-disfigurement, it was my sadly optimistic internal monologue saying "this is fucking terrible, but at least if they're showing this Lugh is going to show up and get them out any minute now so they can start their new life" ...and then it cuts to 2 whole fucking years later before Lugh arrives on the scene. Bruh. BRUH. I was NOT expecting that. Two years of malnutrition, forced labour and being forcibly pimped out at 12 and up? Fuck that's horrid. |
Nov 10, 2021 10:01 PM
#106
Poor Maha. I liked the consistent dark tone that the episode offered. Probably the most memorable episode so far imo |
Nov 10, 2021 11:44 PM
#108
GGcc78 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: It sounds like you're more personally unfulfilled by how it ended rather than the ending actually being unsatisfactory. Hearing it described as unsatisfactory makes it seems like there is some error in how the story or episode was told. How the episode ended is pretty inkeeping with the rules and themes the story has laid down since the beginning and to be honest how it ended is in line with the rules of real world civil society. The episode is neither bad nor flawed in doing this.GGcc78 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: I mean, I can't read the tweet but it seems like it was handled well. You can either want justice as your initial post indicated or you can want revenge. Without getting to into the philosphy of law and order, justice and vengence are not the same. You can't have both. In this case it seems as if they had justice since that dude got locked up. tiyoca1815 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: ACasualViewer said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: Taming_T said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: As for me, this is the worst episode so far for an otherwise good anime. Now I don't really mind the human trafficking/sexual assault plot devices, especially in anime with a medieval setting, but the execution of the episode was sloppy, frustrating, disappointing, and utterly insulting. Throughout the episode, I was seething in absolute anger, and if I daresay, it's the most angry I have felt in my whole life watching anime. The thing that really made me burst out the most is the payoff—the justice that happened. What was that? The justice served at the end wasn't justice at all. It felt like it was just a sorry excuse of how Maha gets introduced to Lugh. That doesn't address the main problem effectively. "Oh, so the Viscount was arrested and everyone is medetashii medetashii?" That's not enough at all, considering how the author is proficient in writing revenge-themed scenarios. What we needed to see was criminal blood, not fresh blood from an unblossomed lotus. Very disappointed with this episode. While I would want to hope that there would be capital punishment next episode, I only think it would be a 20/80 chance. Still very frustrating! I feel the exact same way while other people just enjoying it because the direction it’s going like maha joining the harem and the new identity but they just gonna forget about all that happened to the girls and say “they got what they deserved” which they really didn’t. Exactly. Lugh's so-called "justice" came in too late and the way he did it was super lackluster. I mean, I also liked the fact that Maha was joining the harem... at first. Now I am left feeling, like what I said earlier, seething rage on how this episode was executed. Given context, it looks like this took place 2 years before he even arrived in the city, he noticed she had magic and just approached then, not like he can save everyone before something bad happens. That's very true and agreeable, Casual-chan! But then again, that doesn't quite excuse the unsatisfactory "justice" that happened T-T If Lugh could get intelligence on how human traffickers operated in Episode 1 and absolutely destroyed their disgusting actions, I just think that there should also be an equivalent in Episode 6. Now we could try to hope that Episode 6's human traffickers would get something like of a capital punishment in Episode 7, but until that episode airs, we can only hope! Some behind the scene info are tweeted out by the author whenever an episode airs. The stuff he share probably wont be animated / mentioned at all. This one is in regards to criminals caught this time. https://twitter.com/Tsukiyo_rui/status/1458472021138894857 Reading the tweet, they got off too easily, in my opinion T-T Now I know the feeling of wanting to complain for more even though a conclusion is already drawn. "So you mean you aren't satisfied by that?" My answer is, sadly, yes T-T Although the consequences are somewhat severe... there's this human inclination for revenge that's left unsatisfied. Is it just me? It would also be counter to the whole point of the anime if the MC just started going around killing these guys. He's got a specific purpose and he seems to have already stretched his mandate a little bit by getting as involved as he did. It's hard to be an undercover assasin if you are going around killing people outside of your mission That's exactly one of the reasons why I keep saying the conclusion is unsatisfactory. Like what I have been saying a lot in other replies, Lugh has done everything he realistically can, so it's really frustrating that so far, the anime has only shown us that the culprits are merely arrested, which again, in my opinion, is simply not enough. Once again, Lugh can't do more than what he has done, so taking vengeance—which the oppressors deserve—most likely won't happen, making the frustrating scenario even more frustrating. Yeah, there's no argument on objectivity over here. I believe that the words "unsatisfactory," "frustrating," "disappointing," and other terms I have said are subjective terms compared to more direct ones like "full of flaws/holes," "imperfect," and "irrelevant." You're right, it's a personal unfulfillment—I don't think I have said anything about the episode being flawed or something, have I? I may have said that the episode could be executed better, but I believe that isn't too much of an objective criticism. After all, wishful thinking is a natural part of a response! |
AlexPaulLEWZNov 11, 2021 12:17 AM
Nov 11, 2021 12:13 AM
#109
This episode kinda irked me pretty bad. I wanted to see him wipe out those three scumbags running the Orphanage so bad, but instead he gets them arrested. Kind of a let down. |
Nov 11, 2021 1:06 AM
#110
The op visuals + replace the song with Adele's Skyfall. I mean the op is basically an anime version of a james bond intro, skyfall especially I also do hope we got some flashback's of his old assassin life. Heck if I had to choose I'd probably prefer to watch that story instead |
Nov 11, 2021 1:28 AM
#111
man this was painful to watch also did Tarte had to have her boob groped like that? |
My candies: |
Nov 11, 2021 2:13 AM
#112
ThirteenEleven said: I feel like it was too long. I get it, bad guys are bad, Lugh needs to save the girls. We didn't need whole episode to show their suffering imo. I mean, it's anime about an assassin, not "how bad the world would be if not for Lugh". Those were my thoughts exactly. We didn't need a whole episode of this abuse. This was a really poor episode, they could've showed the abuse in a shortened format but instead drew it out. I can't stand shows that do that. First thing i haven't liked about this show. We know the nobles are terrible and abuse young girls but it seemed like the show was delighting in showing us this fact. |
Nov 11, 2021 3:24 AM
#113
AlexPaulLEWZ said: r_justo said: Taming_T said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: As for me, this is the worst episode so far for an otherwise good anime. Now I don't really mind the human trafficking/sexual assault plot devices, especially in anime with a medieval setting, but the execution of the episode was sloppy, frustrating, disappointing, and utterly insulting. Throughout the episode, I was seething in absolute anger, and if I daresay, it's the most angry I have felt in my whole life watching anime. The thing that really made me burst out the most is the payoff—the justice that happened. What was that? The justice served at the end wasn't justice at all. It felt like it was just a sorry excuse of how Maha gets introduced to Lugh. That doesn't address the main problem effectively. "Oh, so the Viscount was arrested and everyone is medetashii medetashii?" That's not enough at all, considering how the author is proficient in writing revenge-themed scenarios. What we needed to see was criminal blood, not fresh blood from an unblossomed lotus. Very disappointed with this episode. While I would want to hope that there would be capital punishment next episode, I only think it would be a 20/80 chance. Still very frustrating! I feel the exact same way while other people just enjoying it because the direction it’s going like maha joining the harem and the new identity but they just gonna forget about all that happened to the girls and say “they got what they deserved” which they really didn’t. WOW!!! Some people here are blood thirsting haters, ey? (haters not in a bad way, only some guys that hate something, not the ones that spread hate, mind you) What's the point of a justice system if not to apply justice? Why does everything need to be murdered at first sight? Yes this case was one of the worse possible, and much possible the punish will be the capital one, but still, the right way to do it is to lend them to justice, and that is what they did. "oh! but he is an assassin!" Yh, but without a mission, AND WORSE, in disguise with another name/person. WHO would be the "professional MORON" that gives everything to lose for a few kids?? He solved the case and the best way for every side (especially his own!). If you would complain about the pacing, the confusing timeline (did he arrive at the beginning of the orphanage? or was sometime later? The new girl has 12 as he had when he arrived at the town, soo...), or about other confusing matters that wasn't explained... Especially "the countess gives money for homeless kids" and there weren't inspections to see if the money was in good use?? So much BS in this ep and you guys are only blood-thirst... SHAME!! AlexPaulLEWZ said: tiyoca1815 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: ACasualViewer said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: Taming_T said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: As for me, this is the worst episode so far for an otherwise good anime. Now I don't really mind the human trafficking/sexual assault plot devices, especially in anime with a medieval setting, but the execution of the episode was sloppy, frustrating, disappointing, and utterly insulting. Throughout the episode, I was seething in absolute anger, and if I daresay, it's the most angry I have felt in my whole life watching anime. The thing that really made me burst out the most is the payoff—the justice that happened. What was that? The justice served at the end wasn't justice at all. It felt like it was just a sorry excuse of how Maha gets introduced to Lugh. That doesn't address the main problem effectively. "Oh, so the Viscount was arrested and everyone is medetashii medetashii?" That's not enough at all, considering how the author is proficient in writing revenge-themed scenarios. What we needed to see was criminal blood, not fresh blood from an unblossomed lotus. Very disappointed with this episode. While I would want to hope that there would be capital punishment next episode, I only think it would be a 20/80 chance. Still very frustrating! I feel the exact same way while other people just enjoying it because the direction it’s going like maha joining the harem and the new identity but they just gonna forget about all that happened to the girls and say “they got what they deserved” which they really didn’t. Exactly. Lugh's so-called "justice" came in too late and the way he did it was super lackluster. I mean, I also liked the fact that Maha was joining the harem... at first. Now I am left feeling, like what I said earlier, seething rage on how this episode was executed. Given context, it looks like this took place 2 years before he even arrived in the city, he noticed she had magic and just approached then, not like he can save everyone before something bad happens. That's very true and agreeable, Casual-chan! But then again, that doesn't quite excuse the unsatisfactory "justice" that happened T-T If Lugh could get intelligence on how human traffickers operated in Episode 1 and absolutely destroyed their disgusting actions, I just think that there should also be an equivalent in Episode 6. Now we could try to hope that Episode 6's human traffickers would get something like of a capital punishment in Episode 7, but until that episode airs, we can only hope! Some behind the scene info are tweeted out by the author whenever an episode airs. The stuff he share probably wont be animated / mentioned at all. This one is in regards to criminals caught this time. https://twitter.com/Tsukiyo_rui/status/1458472021138894857 Reading the tweet, they got off too easily, in my opinion T-T Now I know the feeling of wanting to complain for more even though a conclusion is already drawn. "So you mean you aren't satisfied by that?" My answer is, sadly, yes T-T Although the consequences are somewhat severe... there's this human inclination for revenge that's left unsatisfied. Is it just me? If the google translator didn't go wrong again, it seems that the guys did suffer before they died... I think it fits them. Not sure what worse could you expect from it. I didn't mention the "workers" of the orphanage, but if that happens to the count and countess... it sure wasn't pretty neither. > What's the point of a justice system if not to apply justice? Why does everything need to be murdered at first sight? Yes this case was one of the worse possible, and much possible the punish will be the capital one, but still, the right way to do it is to lend them to justice, and that is what they did. True. Bringing them to justice is good. There's no argument about that. > "oh! but he is an assassin!" Yh, but without a mission, AND WORSE, in disguise with another name/person. WHO would be the "professional MORON" that gives everything to lose for a few kids?? He solved the case and the best way for every side (especially his own!). Thinking rationally, of course no one would do that. That much is obvious. I'm pretty sure anyone who has watched this has already realized that Lugh has done what he realistically can as a human being. The correct justice has been served, but everything happened in a short period of time that it was not really satisfactory in terms of execution. There are ways to make the scene better, at least in my opinion, like giving some of Lugh's point-of-view on how he discovered everything. That could be tackled in the next episode, and we will see. > If you would complain about the pacing, the confusing timeline (did he arrive at the beginning of the orphanage? or was sometime later? The new girl has 12 as he had when he arrived at the town, soo...), or about other confusing matters that wasn't explained... Especially "the countess gives money for homeless kids" and there weren't inspections to see if the money was in good use?? Nah, I'm not going to complain about this since I thought the timeline was pretty clear. > So much BS in this ep and you guys are only blood-thirst... SHAME!! This is also undeniable, haha. At least for me. I, as one of the audience, was subjected with literally two years worth of information knowing that the girls were helpless and sexually abused against their will. I believe that there is a significant portion of people, include me, who is undoubtedly going to feel extreme bloodlust and seething rage against the sexual abusers as a natural response to what they're seeing. That, in consequence, gives those enraged audience wishful thoughts about seeing those oppressors get what they truly deserve—something Episode 6 did not show in full, leaving the desire to see absolute justice on a cliffhanger, which enrages the already-enraged people even more. As if that wasn't enough—since Lugh, once again, cannot give justice by himself fully since his moves are limited, the already twice-enraged audience will also get frustrated by their powerlessness to influence what they're watching. > If the google translator didn't go wrong again, it seems that the guys did suffer before they died... I think it fits them. Not sure what worse could you expect from it. I didn't mention the "workers" of the orphanage, but if that happens to the count and countess... it sure wasn't pretty neither. Since there is no concept of Hell in this anime (and most probably wouldn't be introduced), we can safely assume that those who die will probably get reincarnated and forget everything as if nothing happened. Their souls will be "free," with us knowing that they got off easily by committing suicide. Humanity—at least my—thirst for absolute justice knows no bounds. Eternal suffering is the only way to go (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Ok,ok,ok,ok! Very good until the last subject. "Since there is no concept of Hell in this anime (and most probably wouldn't be introduced), we can safely assume that those who die will probably get reincarnated and forget everything as if nothing happened. Their souls will be "free," with us knowing that they got off easily by committing suicide. Humanity—at least my—thirst for absolute justice knows no bounds. Eternal suffering is the only way to go (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻" 1st we need to understand one thing... They were supposed to suffer in life, that's why they were "thrown away" to a forceful labor camp with a bunch of "bullies" like they were to the kids. They suicide after a month, if not they would continue suffering to the day they would eventually die for the conditions they would be forced into at the camp. (not a bad punish from my perspective) Now the concept of reincarnations and soo... We need to understand that the assassin (that became Lugh) was reborn/reincarnated as an exception, if I'm not mistaken the goddess says that she is giving him a chance, which means that not everyone has it. If we compare the lucky "bastards" that have that chance (until now), all of them have a purpose and "a special set of skills" (xD) to be used in their reincarnation... these guys... not even for them became fertilize they are good for! I'm pretty much sure they will not come back at all! If the cycle of life-n-death-n-life with people being reborn is a thing in that universe, we need also to understand what that's all about. The idea is that a human being is used after its death to become another (let's just put this on humans only), but all its traits, personalities, etc. is erased. No matter from what perspective the guy will cease to exist and will never come back. As far as we know maybe the big fat guy will be reborn as a girl and they will do the same to him/her! Or reborn as a baby that will kill by the wolves! Or have a happy life. Everything could be possible, except one, that guy... will never come back. AND he did suffer before he took his life himself... I don't feel bad with that xD And I don't feel in "need" of another way. The best it could have been would be a quick and less painful death at the moment he had a knife on his throat... I think I prefer the way it was! (You could see me as a less bloodthirst person... I'm not! But I'm a very efficient one. Why do a quick kill, or even an hours-long kill, if I can make it in years and years of suffering? (Especially if I don't know if they will suffer after death or much probably don't?) Even if they suicide themselves, they would need literally the rest of their lives in suffering to get the courage to kill themselves with their own hands. And things I learned... Bully of small kids... Do not have courage! And that fat ass guy-bitch would make a very good onahole for those "bullies" at the forced camp! With just one big difference... There wouldn't be any beautiful dress for him this time XD) |
r_justoNov 11, 2021 3:39 AM
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
Nov 11, 2021 4:15 AM
#114
Nov 11, 2021 4:19 AM
#115
Blue_Maroon said: Eww. An entire episode of torture porn with young girls. No purpose for it either, it’s just to provoke a negative reaction so that you project yourself even more onto the “cool” and “chad” main character. Absolutely a drop after some shit like this. Congratulations, you have found a reason to drop the show. Have a nice day |
Nov 11, 2021 4:21 AM
#116
this is a high quality anime !! i cant believe this created by who made a hentai anime " kaifuku jutsushi' !!! |
Nov 11, 2021 4:46 AM
#117
This episode is more horrific than the previous ones, now he done collecting harem, I wonder what our Lugh gonna do next |
Nov 11, 2021 4:49 AM
#118
This episode really shows u how much better the manga is lmao. The manga was so in depth. Nonetheless, it was a good episode. I think it captivated the emotional part really good honestly! |
Nov 11, 2021 4:57 AM
#119
Jesus Christ that was an episode uhhhh |
My Candies: |
Nov 11, 2021 4:58 AM
#120
Congrats to Nene, hope she'll have more husbands after voicing Kerry xD |
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Nov 11, 2021 5:47 AM
#121
Goddamn, that was really dark and heavy. Only Dia probably has a more or less positive upbringing compared to Tarte and Maha, well we don't really know her backstory yet, but I assume her problems are not gonna be as dark as Maha I hope. I hope the other girls are safe now too as well, but Jesus, 2 years of that shit, that's insane. I would have loved to see Lugh kill the bastards, but I also understand that he's an assassin and he can't just kill anyone all willy nilly. Let's just hope justice was properly served by the authorities. Tarte doing the falling down backwards escape was cool as fuck though. Welcome to the family Maha, at least she miraculously was untouched those 2 years, I guess professionals have standards lmao. Looking forward to the next episode. |
Nov 11, 2021 5:58 AM
#122
What's going to happen to those fcking demons. I want them killed or tortured. I'm not satisfied if they're just gonna be in prison or something. Look what they did to the precious girls. Im glad Maha was saved thanks to our Lugh-kun. |
Oppai check! 111 cm: Hancock 110 cm: Zoro 100 cm: Robin |
Nov 11, 2021 6:29 AM
#123
Ah yes, good excuse to show 12 yo naked girls on screen. Ahh oohhh, what a masterpiece, no! This is no better than Redo of healer. Look, they could easily have made it as dark and horrible but not turn it into a harem hentai party. Other than that it was not a bad episode. |
Nov 11, 2021 8:14 AM
#124
Nenechi voiced a character here? Good. More VTuber gonna dominate anime. #VTuberSupremacy |
Nov 11, 2021 8:34 AM
#125
Whenever it rains, you can always expect a high chance of something bad happening. Anyway... horrendously disturbing episode.... jeez.... |
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Nov 11, 2021 9:43 AM
#126
Poor girls kidnapped and raped that's horrible... at least MC saved one of them it's better than nothing, and the kidnapper will be jailed |
Nov 11, 2021 10:23 AM
#127
SEKAI SAIKOU NO ANSATSUSHA 6th EPISODE IMPRESSION And yeah finally the author's run out of idea. So they pushes the protagonist back to a side character, forced this tragic, triggering but underdeveloped backstory, and just go full Redo of Healer (minus any nudes) I guess my main criticism of this episode, is how they handle this side character that just came out of nowhere and suddenly start narrating her whole life and tragic event to just forced us to care. I mean where is our main character? Why we suddenly starting to focused on some random POV, without any motives or exposition on why we got here in the first place? I don't remember Lugh ever stated that he needed to go to the orphanage, i don't even knew anything at all about his duty as Iriq Balor. He just transformed, and puff.. we shift into this girl POV... RANDOMLY! Regarding what i like to call this "Tragic Slavery Backstory" there's so many adaptation that has done it right in term of storytelling and tough provoking. In Mushoku Tensei, we learn about this "Beast Species" child trafficking tragedy through Rudy's eyes, and then the event unfold as our main protagonist journey into their village. In Shield Hero we introduce into Raftalia, a nameless slave in the auction house. Then we learn about this whole system by the transaction that our MC involved into. Then we learn about Raftalia backstory through out her interaction with Naofumi. That's it! That's how you do it. Set the right narrative and perspective so the audience don't left at lost But in here it feels like the author just someday came out with this amazing idea about a really tragic and (trying) deep H plot, but they didn't want the protagonist to came and bring this hero saving cliche right away or bother securing the safe zone first that just gonna take out the excitement. So they decided to squish the story, milked and exploiting it as much as possible. Like ok, these girls -which i know nothing about- has been kidnapped, it's your time to shine now our hero... Fine, one of the girl now gonna be sended into this dude to be a prostitute, anytime now hero... Hello, now almost all of the girls gonna face the same faith, now or never.... Dafug now it's 2 years already, and the only girl left that just happen to have a very distinguish hair style about to be trafficked,.. i'm just checking out the runtimes left in case this just gonna turned out to be a hentai anime. I've feel miserable enough, good luck saving your shows hero. And then he suddenly showed up, RANDOMLY!. And guess how they do to tied all this things up? By making the girl suddenly called the man she's just meet, that's gonna bought her up, and just happen to be good looking (and our MC), a "SAVIOR" What the hell is wrong with you author? Clearly the only jerk and douchebag here is you that dragging and describing every graphics that you could think of, just for the sake of exploitation While the results is true, the story is effective in draining our emotions. But that's it, i'm just left feeling drained and exhausted after all this things that really should be condensed down, and didn't give a single damn about this girl first person perspective because it's add nothing to the narrative. Also not to mention violating the ratings and the premises mid season like this, this mess of an episode just here to left the audience feeling lost in tarnation |
EmpireDeLunaNov 11, 2021 10:30 AM
Nov 11, 2021 12:09 PM
#128
r_justo said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: r_justo said: Taming_T said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: As for me, this is the worst episode so far for an otherwise good anime. Now I don't really mind the human trafficking/sexual assault plot devices, especially in anime with a medieval setting, but the execution of the episode was sloppy, frustrating, disappointing, and utterly insulting. Throughout the episode, I was seething in absolute anger, and if I daresay, it's the most angry I have felt in my whole life watching anime. The thing that really made me burst out the most is the payoff—the justice that happened. What was that? The justice served at the end wasn't justice at all. It felt like it was just a sorry excuse of how Maha gets introduced to Lugh. That doesn't address the main problem effectively. "Oh, so the Viscount was arrested and everyone is medetashii medetashii?" That's not enough at all, considering how the author is proficient in writing revenge-themed scenarios. What we needed to see was criminal blood, not fresh blood from an unblossomed lotus. Very disappointed with this episode. While I would want to hope that there would be capital punishment next episode, I only think it would be a 20/80 chance. Still very frustrating! I feel the exact same way while other people just enjoying it because the direction it’s going like maha joining the harem and the new identity but they just gonna forget about all that happened to the girls and say “they got what they deserved” which they really didn’t. WOW!!! Some people here are blood thirsting haters, ey? (haters not in a bad way, only some guys that hate something, not the ones that spread hate, mind you) What's the point of a justice system if not to apply justice? Why does everything need to be murdered at first sight? Yes this case was one of the worse possible, and much possible the punish will be the capital one, but still, the right way to do it is to lend them to justice, and that is what they did. "oh! but he is an assassin!" Yh, but without a mission, AND WORSE, in disguise with another name/person. WHO would be the "professional MORON" that gives everything to lose for a few kids?? He solved the case and the best way for every side (especially his own!). If you would complain about the pacing, the confusing timeline (did he arrive at the beginning of the orphanage? or was sometime later? The new girl has 12 as he had when he arrived at the town, soo...), or about other confusing matters that wasn't explained... Especially "the countess gives money for homeless kids" and there weren't inspections to see if the money was in good use?? So much BS in this ep and you guys are only blood-thirst... SHAME!! AlexPaulLEWZ said: tiyoca1815 said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: ACasualViewer said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: Taming_T said: AlexPaulLEWZ said: As for me, this is the worst episode so far for an otherwise good anime. Now I don't really mind the human trafficking/sexual assault plot devices, especially in anime with a medieval setting, but the execution of the episode was sloppy, frustrating, disappointing, and utterly insulting. Throughout the episode, I was seething in absolute anger, and if I daresay, it's the most angry I have felt in my whole life watching anime. The thing that really made me burst out the most is the payoff—the justice that happened. What was that? The justice served at the end wasn't justice at all. It felt like it was just a sorry excuse of how Maha gets introduced to Lugh. That doesn't address the main problem effectively. "Oh, so the Viscount was arrested and everyone is medetashii medetashii?" That's not enough at all, considering how the author is proficient in writing revenge-themed scenarios. What we needed to see was criminal blood, not fresh blood from an unblossomed lotus. Very disappointed with this episode. While I would want to hope that there would be capital punishment next episode, I only think it would be a 20/80 chance. Still very frustrating! I feel the exact same way while other people just enjoying it because the direction it’s going like maha joining the harem and the new identity but they just gonna forget about all that happened to the girls and say “they got what they deserved” which they really didn’t. Exactly. Lugh's so-called "justice" came in too late and the way he did it was super lackluster. I mean, I also liked the fact that Maha was joining the harem... at first. Now I am left feeling, like what I said earlier, seething rage on how this episode was executed. Given context, it looks like this took place 2 years before he even arrived in the city, he noticed she had magic and just approached then, not like he can save everyone before something bad happens. That's very true and agreeable, Casual-chan! But then again, that doesn't quite excuse the unsatisfactory "justice" that happened T-T If Lugh could get intelligence on how human traffickers operated in Episode 1 and absolutely destroyed their disgusting actions, I just think that there should also be an equivalent in Episode 6. Now we could try to hope that Episode 6's human traffickers would get something like of a capital punishment in Episode 7, but until that episode airs, we can only hope! Some behind the scene info are tweeted out by the author whenever an episode airs. The stuff he share probably wont be animated / mentioned at all. This one is in regards to criminals caught this time. https://twitter.com/Tsukiyo_rui/status/1458472021138894857 Reading the tweet, they got off too easily, in my opinion T-T Now I know the feeling of wanting to complain for more even though a conclusion is already drawn. "So you mean you aren't satisfied by that?" My answer is, sadly, yes T-T Although the consequences are somewhat severe... there's this human inclination for revenge that's left unsatisfied. Is it just me? If the google translator didn't go wrong again, it seems that the guys did suffer before they died... I think it fits them. Not sure what worse could you expect from it. I didn't mention the "workers" of the orphanage, but if that happens to the count and countess... it sure wasn't pretty neither. > What's the point of a justice system if not to apply justice? Why does everything need to be murdered at first sight? Yes this case was one of the worse possible, and much possible the punish will be the capital one, but still, the right way to do it is to lend them to justice, and that is what they did. True. Bringing them to justice is good. There's no argument about that. > "oh! but he is an assassin!" Yh, but without a mission, AND WORSE, in disguise with another name/person. WHO would be the "professional MORON" that gives everything to lose for a few kids?? He solved the case and the best way for every side (especially his own!). Thinking rationally, of course no one would do that. That much is obvious. I'm pretty sure anyone who has watched this has already realized that Lugh has done what he realistically can as a human being. The correct justice has been served, but everything happened in a short period of time that it was not really satisfactory in terms of execution. There are ways to make the scene better, at least in my opinion, like giving some of Lugh's point-of-view on how he discovered everything. That could be tackled in the next episode, and we will see. > If you would complain about the pacing, the confusing timeline (did he arrive at the beginning of the orphanage? or was sometime later? The new girl has 12 as he had when he arrived at the town, soo...), or about other confusing matters that wasn't explained... Especially "the countess gives money for homeless kids" and there weren't inspections to see if the money was in good use?? Nah, I'm not going to complain about this since I thought the timeline was pretty clear. > So much BS in this ep and you guys are only blood-thirst... SHAME!! This is also undeniable, haha. At least for me. I, as one of the audience, was subjected with literally two years worth of information knowing that the girls were helpless and sexually abused against their will. I believe that there is a significant portion of people, include me, who is undoubtedly going to feel extreme bloodlust and seething rage against the sexual abusers as a natural response to what they're seeing. That, in consequence, gives those enraged audience wishful thoughts about seeing those oppressors get what they truly deserve—something Episode 6 did not show in full, leaving the desire to see absolute justice on a cliffhanger, which enrages the already-enraged people even more. As if that wasn't enough—since Lugh, once again, cannot give justice by himself fully since his moves are limited, the already twice-enraged audience will also get frustrated by their powerlessness to influence what they're watching. > If the google translator didn't go wrong again, it seems that the guys did suffer before they died... I think it fits them. Not sure what worse could you expect from it. I didn't mention the "workers" of the orphanage, but if that happens to the count and countess... it sure wasn't pretty neither. Since there is no concept of Hell in this anime (and most probably wouldn't be introduced), we can safely assume that those who die will probably get reincarnated and forget everything as if nothing happened. Their souls will be "free," with us knowing that they got off easily by committing suicide. Humanity—at least my—thirst for absolute justice knows no bounds. Eternal suffering is the only way to go (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Ok,ok,ok,ok! Very good until the last subject. "Since there is no concept of Hell in this anime (and most probably wouldn't be introduced), we can safely assume that those who die will probably get reincarnated and forget everything as if nothing happened. Their souls will be "free," with us knowing that they got off easily by committing suicide. Humanity—at least my—thirst for absolute justice knows no bounds. Eternal suffering is the only way to go (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻" 1st we need to understand one thing... They were supposed to suffer in life, that's why they were "thrown away" to a forceful labor camp with a bunch of "bullies" like they were to the kids. They suicide after a month, if not they would continue suffering to the day they would eventually die for the conditions they would be forced into at the camp. (not a bad punish from my perspective) Now the concept of reincarnations and soo... We need to understand that the assassin (that became Lugh) was reborn/reincarnated as an exception, if I'm not mistaken the goddess says that she is giving him a chance, which means that not everyone has it. If we compare the lucky "bastards" that have that chance (until now), all of them have a purpose and "a special set of skills" (xD) to be used in their reincarnation... these guys... not even for them became fertilize they are good for! I'm pretty much sure they will not come back at all! If the cycle of life-n-death-n-life with people being reborn is a thing in that universe, we need also to understand what that's all about. The idea is that a human being is used after its death to become another (let's just put this on humans only), but all its traits, personalities, etc. is erased. No matter from what perspective the guy will cease to exist and will never come back. As far as we know maybe the big fat guy will be reborn as a girl and they will do the same to him/her! Or reborn as a baby that will kill by the wolves! Or have a happy life. Everything could be possible, except one, that guy... will never come back. AND he did suffer before he took his life himself... I don't feel bad with that xD And I don't feel in "need" of another way. The best it could have been would be a quick and less painful death at the moment he had a knife on his throat... I think I prefer the way it was! (You could see me as a less bloodthirst person... I'm not! But I'm a very efficient one. Why do a quick kill, or even an hours-long kill, if I can make it in years and years of suffering? (Especially if I don't know if they will suffer after death or much probably don't?) Even if they suicide themselves, they would need literally the rest of their lives in suffering to get the courage to kill themselves with their own hands. And things I learned... Bully of small kids... Do not have courage! And that fat ass guy-bitch would make a very good onahole for those "bullies" at the forced camp! With just one big difference... There wouldn't be any beautiful dress for him this time XD) xD It's a well thought-out response. I have no complaints regarding this reply! Nice nice nice nice |
Nov 11, 2021 12:33 PM
#129
I wasn't expecting such a dark and depressing episode... What makes it worse is that it started off cute: homeless girls working together to have a better life! they're pennilessly but happy and hopeful together!! then their lives became hell ;_; Episode ended with "justice" but meh, I'd rather had seen all the sick men be bloodily massacred. And I hate the implication that Lugh gets a ~new harem member~ and it's Maha, the only virgin of the orphans. Barf. |
Nov 11, 2021 1:52 PM
#130
That was a difficult episode to watch, the payoff at the end didn't really seem that satisfying. It felt a bit rushed and I dont think the bad guys got what they deserved. I like the show overall though. |
Nov 11, 2021 2:16 PM
#131
Hard episode to watch. I kept waiting for lugh to save them I know he an assassin nut having this new life and having the new idea of his new family to protect the good and eliminate the bad. I really hope noine and ifa long with the rest of the girls live happy lives |
Nov 11, 2021 3:17 PM
#133
Yes, the episode was really dark, but I liked that, although the orphans had time to suffer, they ended up with a good ending, they all survived. I liked how the author explained why Lug did not immediately kill Doran and his minions. But I really would like to see it in the series, not in the author's tweets. Objectively speaking, it was possible to cram into the series a moment where the Lord's wife finds out how her money is actually used not to help orphanages, but for dark deeds, and how she is already present to determine the punishments of the villains, sending them to forced correctional labor, which will become for them last. p.s. Sorry for my english. |
Nov 11, 2021 3:28 PM
#134
Damn , 2 year of wait for the Prince to save them. Hmm, I would assume the other girls are older than maha since the f””Kers mentioned of her being 12. I guess the other girls other than maha got raped and she’s the only one which hasn’t. |
Nov 11, 2021 5:36 PM
#135
DarkDooM2 said: And of course the girl just so happens to be the only one still a virgin amongst the entire group of girls. Can't have a used goods waifu, now can we? Well, you can, like Sakura from FSN, but there's a reason on why she's far less popular than Rin and Artoria. |
FGO NA Code: 482.072.599 (F2P thug life of savings...) Ben-to! best nonsensical action anime. Ever. |
Nov 11, 2021 6:23 PM
#136
Maybe I was wrong giving it 7 from the start, maybe, just maybe I'll change my rate of this I've also checked first few chapters of manga and anime is way better. |
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´。✪ω✪。`) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
Nov 11, 2021 7:02 PM
#137
It's kinda weird how people are saying Maha gets spared from being prostituted because she had to join the MC's harem when there was another girl in the group of 6, Kerry, who didn't get prostituted cause, like Maha, she was too young. Kerry didn't have a "prison shower" scene and her VA is Momosuzu Nene and I doubt she'd want her 1st dabbling in being a VA to be "loli that gets prostituted". I mean it's a gross discussion but Maha didn't get spared during those 2 years because the plot demanded she remain pure for the MC's harem, but cause she was a product/merchandise to the captors and any prostituting at younger ages would have likely damaged the merchandise. Same with Kerry who seems younger than Maha, if Lugh didn't save Maha, Kerry would've likely had 1-2 more years of not being prostituted at once she was 12 would be put on the roster. |
Layfon1Nov 11, 2021 7:07 PM
Nov 11, 2021 8:16 PM
#138
Honnestly almost made me drop it. It was insanly messed up and edgy for no reason, like im happy Maha didnt get raped but what about the others. They were all continuesly violated and really nothing happens because they went through that. They wont be able to live a good life or be looked at as anything other then ex prosituties. Up until here I really enjoyed it but this was terrible and made my rating of the show as a whole drop atleast a point. |
Nov 12, 2021 10:15 AM
#139
Nov 12, 2021 1:02 PM
#141
Done with this ultimate trash. PG13??? no way this pedophilia crap is rated correctly. Made me want to vomit. |
Nov 12, 2021 1:04 PM
#142
erjata said: How pretty is Maha <3 Atleast we had a happy ending after all Maha calling Lugh "Prince" ohhhh I love all the girls, Dia, Tarte and now Maha, so cuteeeeeee! That is pretty twisted imo |
Nov 12, 2021 8:00 PM
#143
Nov 12, 2021 10:16 PM
#144
I don't care about this wish-fulfillment harem trash show, I'm just here to hear Nene. |
Nov 13, 2021 7:57 AM
#145
As I was watching this episode, I thought about the subject matter. I realized that, somewhere in the world, no, probably in many places in the world, this (human trafficking) was happening and nobody was doing anything about it. Please think about this the next time you are living comfortably in your home, with lots to eat, a roof over your head and relative safety. Most people live with tiny tragedies and cruelties and think nothing of it. Until you experience something on this level you won't have proper perspective for what a disgusting place this world is. I'm not saying we need to become vigilantes and rescue others. I'm just suggesting that a little gratitude (for your own good fortune or circumstances) can go a long way, and might even inspire you to accomplish something of value in your lifetime. Little victories can be significant, even if it's something as simple as expanding our viewpoint a little bit each day. It is my belief that those of us granted a little bit of talent or grace have a responsibility to, well, ourselves, if no one else. It would be a waste to spend such a life just chasing pleasure or frivolous goals. |
Nov 13, 2021 11:28 AM
#146
Vooo said: erjata said: How pretty is Maha <3 Atleast we had a happy ending after all Maha calling Lugh "Prince" ohhhh I love all the girls, Dia, Tarte and now Maha, so cuteeeeeee! That is pretty twisted imo We all love these beautiful pretty twisted little things, don't we?? Especially very pretty ones calling "Price" to their saviors. Soo cute! |
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
Nov 13, 2021 11:31 AM
#147
Qichar said: As I was watching this episode, I thought about the subject matter. I realized that, somewhere in the world, no, probably in many places in the world, this (human trafficking) was happening and nobody was doing anything about it. Please think about this the next time you are living comfortably in your home, with lots to eat, a roof over your head and relative safety. Most people live with tiny tragedies and cruelties and think nothing of it. Until you experience something on this level you won't have proper perspective for what a disgusting place this world is. Now, let us think about the guys that complain about those things in an anime -.- It says a lot! Qichar said: I'm not saying we need to become vigilantes and rescue others. I'm just suggesting that a little gratitude (for your own good fortune or circumstances) can go a long way, and might even inspire you to accomplish something of value in your lifetime. Little victories can be significant, even if it's something as simple as expanding our viewpoint a little bit each day. It is my belief that those of us granted a little bit of talent or grace have a responsibility to, well, ourselves, if no one else. It would be a waste to spend such a life just chasing pleasure or frivolous goals. Nice message! A very good one indeed! |
For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
Nov 13, 2021 3:54 PM
#148
This episode was... damn. Shit felt too real, Maha got lucky her V card never got taken for 2 yrs, that was some luck there, one of them stabbing their face just so she wont get raped felt too legit, the ep was scary due to how the directing and atmosphere made shit like it was just happening beside you. Despite the dark atmosphere I chuckled when the fat bastard almost grabbed Tarte's tits instead of the gold lol. I know some people would prefer some heroic shit here but I actually didnt expect Lugh to do anything at all and am surprised with how he handled things. Silver Link has been doing a great job with this adaptation. |
Nov 13, 2021 4:13 PM
#149
UN CAPITULO EXCELENTE Este es un capitulo muy bien desarrollado que desde principio hasta el fin te hace sentir la angustia y el miedo a que las cosas malas pasen, te mantiene pegado a la pantalla y pausando cuando tienes miedo de lo que se podría venir, no es un capitulo perfecto la pelea no es lo mejor pero es justa y necesaria ya que no es la escena principal acá, ni el enfoque al cual quiere llegar el autor. Mi puntuación para el cap es de 9.6 |
Nov 13, 2021 4:21 PM
#150
-Stray said: I know some people would prefer some heroic shit here but I actually didnt expect Lugh to do anything at all and am surprised with how he handled things. Silver Link has been doing a great job with this adaptation. I appreciated this as well. The author kept it within character for Lugh. Let's remember he's trying to establish his identity as a merchant. Lugh has laser focus and 100% discipline in staying on mission and not getting distracted (at least, that's what his previous life backstory would have us believe). It would have blown his cover to go all vigilante on the scumbags himself. Instead, he worked with the local authorities which is exactly what the rich and influential people do. Why dirty your hands when you can get local constabulary to do it for you? |
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