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RealTheAbsurdist said: I don't have a very critical mindset when it comes to critiquing anime, so I'd love to hear your criticisms of the anime. I think your writing at the top of your message could be considered criticism, and that's pretty much what I criticized about the anime. But, if you want to hear how I can best give a quick summary of this anime, here it goes: I like this anime, I really do, but just like every other anime I've watched, I've noticed faults. Most of it is in the writing, but that was expected because the writer of this show is famous for making another with a really great start and completely fumbling with it in the end. I love the main character, and I think some of the other characters are great too, and my criticism is not really set on the characters. I also love the music: though recycled, it works really well. The opening is perfect, in my opinion, because it's not long and drawn out and shows a whole lot of shit I don't care about, which is typical in most other animes, and this is the only show that I have yet to skip the opening for every single episode. I also like the lack of stereotypes in the show and how this is a more adult, original, and realistic type of anime, though not completely realistic, obviously, because Magase is superhuman. Here is where the criticism comes in, so far, but it's really short: The debate was fucking terrible, and I personally believe that it has been the worst part of this show thus far. It had zero good points, it had zero emotion, and it was clearly just a really quickly written piece of garbage that was simply to progress the story and introduce the kid as the son of Itsuki. And actually, thinking about it again, I can't think of another criticism I've had so far. If you scroll through this thread, you may find my rants, and maybe I've said some other stuff, but I can't remember as of the moment. |
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RealTheAbsurdist said: I don't have a very critical mindset when it comes to critiquing anime, so I'd love to hear your criticisms of the anime. This anime's one of my top animes, and I could definitely put more criticism into a few of the animes on my completed list, namely the romantic animes. Tip to watching a romantic anime: Always expect a nonsensical, shit ending and a really odd beginning. Just watch for everything in between and it's worth it. |
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phynto said: Tip to watching a romantic anime: Always expect a nonsensical, shit ending and a really odd beginning. Just watch for everything in between and it's worth it. For your information, that's not actually me giving you a tip on watching anime, being you have far more experience; that's just what I consider my main point when criticizing that genre. |
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| Everything isn't going well with Seizaki, even his wife and kid isn't to Itsuki's ideals within the Shiniki state. And with that, his arrest isn't imminent due to the lack of evidence, but thereof, another tactic to kidnap the person instead. The public debate about Itsuki's suicide law...was indeed interesting, but it isn't an open-and-shut case of dismissing the law, there are certainly loopholes on different POVs that make sense and not, as is with fallacy in politics. In Japan, true as though may be, suicides ARE A THING, and suicide rate is on the above-average levels when compared to levels faced in other countries, and that's insane. But how Itsuki confronted all these is with the thought that ORDINARY humans could see death in front of their eyes, whereas the others could NOT see EYE TO EYE. BUT when that masked kid who went viral about this message the last episode appeared, to run for parliament is black-and-white, I DID NOT EXPECT THAT PLOT TWIST that it would be his son. Would it be a father-and-son battle over suicide? |
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ziad1419 said: MurukoHiiragi said: This show has some flaws but still it's enjoyable, it is clear that itsuki has trupm cards but the son was unexpected. If kidnapping doesnt work then just kill lol but ai is another problem Brother If you don't like this show should drop it Don't talk shit about it Babylon is good show I actually liked the show, i even said it is enjoyable even if there are some small flaws. And the unexpected event was great. Im not talking shit lol |
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| tbh, I agree more with Itsuki's arguments. Also, I didn't expect for that boy to be his son. |
MurukoHiiragi said: ziad1419 said: Brother If you don't like this show should drop it Don't talk shit about it Babylon is good show I actually liked the show, i even said it is enjoyable even if there are some small flaws. And the unexpected event was great. Im not talking shit lol I don’t where in your prior post they got the ideal you hated the show. |
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| Bro, it's twist after twist with this show. I love it! |
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| Itsuki did a great job countering their arguments. To be honest, I don't like the concept of suicide but if a person feels like that is what they truly want and nothing can change their mind then it's ultimately up to them. Yes, there are those who regret it after they attempt suicide and eventually survive but we can't really tell how a person felt or what they thought if they successfully went through with the suicide. In my opinion, a person needs to make an effort to help themselves, who is to say they did everything or not? I'm not very good at constructing or conveying my argument but whether they ban or legalize suicide, it will still happen. Seizaki was shooked when Nomaru brought in Itsuki's kid. That was a good move on Nomaru's part. Politicians always know how to play people. We had a local politician hold a banquet and that secured him votes because the people in our city, unfortunately, can be easily bought by something like that. I'm wondering though, does Itsuki really want to commit suicide? What for? Or did he only orchestrate that to lead his son to make that YouTube video and everything that's happening now is being manipulated by him, Ai and the rest of his cult? |
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| In hindsight, it's kinda weird that the guys investigating itsuki's whereabouts didn't even consider contacting his family let alone even mentioning he had a family. Also weird that the fat politician guy who got itsuki in the mayor's seat didn't know anything about his family. But who knows, im writing this before ep 7 has been released and they could address these problems in future episodes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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terminador_2397 said: MurukoHiiragi said: I actually liked the show, i even said it is enjoyable even if there are some small flaws. And the unexpected event was great. Im not talking shit lol I don’t where in your prior post they got the ideal you hated the show. Pro tip: Generally when someone has shitty grammar it's safe to ignore their post. That one was on the house, the next tip will cost ya. |
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| Oh fuck, the plot thickens. I wonder what will happen next! This is one of the few anime that make politics really exciting lol. |
| that debate was my fucking shit - itsuki's a fascinating character, and it's getting hard to dislike him |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| I agree with the sentiment that the arguments were sueprficial and inconsistent, not because they are fundamentally wrong, but ridiculously diluted. That said, I understood the crux of Itsuki's argument and I'm convinced in legalizing suicide. LET'S DO IT, BOYS. |
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| This episode was very dumb. The kidnapping plan, the debate, dumb! The mayor said he wanted to decrease the suicide numbers and no one jumped at the chance to point out how much it increased since his announcement of the new law, which just outright proves him wrong. And there's no way that the old man wouldn't know who's the kid's father Dumb! |
I think I don't know wtf I'm doing. Maybe. Probably. |
| Some good arguments not the greatest though, I definitely felt like some of the counter arguments were weak like the one about decreasing suicide rates because people would talk about it and if they don't find another way, suicide would be the answer. I think that the flaw is that people are humans and humans can make mistakes, so even if you don't find another way that doesn't automatically make suicide as a correct answer |
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| Got to say, Magase Ai interests me, this inane suicide law does not. The dumb plot twist at the end really does not work for me either, the show is making everyone look incompetent to hand the mayor a victory. to get "oooooh"s from the audience. Now we also have the people who are the ones defending the law are planning on kidnapping the guy. Pfft, Poor episode. |
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| Yeah this episode just established something that's been bugging me since episode 3 that is suicide was and is currently indeed legal in Japan. Itsuki claims that "currently in Japan, suicide is not a crime" but he goes on to say that it's seen as a form of running away so by imposing the suicide law, it will be seen as a choice. I. can. not. wrap. my. head. around. this. argument. There was literally nothing stopping people from committing suicide before but somehow after Itsuki declared the law, the death toll spiked to bigger numbers. How does that even make sense. Unless if all those people were prompted by something else in which case it can be ruled as assisted suicide which is a crime in itself. Every single episode... I just can't wrap my head around this suicide law that Itsuki proposes. Nomaru claims that there are roughly 20,000 Japanese citizens who commit suicide of their own accord annually and that he acknowledges that the suicide law would actually help those people. In what sense actually? That's what I want to know. And really Nomaru? You decided to involve a literal child into politics? That was your brilliant solution to the problem? Apparently, there are no age restrictions or even qualifications to run for a position in government in this anime. What the fuck was that plot twist? Are you saying they just dumbed down everyone else to make Itsuki seem better than he actually is? They were busy trying to find Itsuki's whereabouts and yet not a single one of them tried to contact/investigate his family or something? Nomaru was literally the one who introduced Itsuki to us and you're telling me he does not know a single thing about him? I also don't get how kidnapping Itsuki would be a good idea. They can't issue a warrant against him because apparently, he followed all the necessary procedures and they don't know what charge to press against him but then again, literally after he announced the suicide law, a big number of people just decided to kill themselves. Shouldn't they be able to establish a correlation between the two? There also the arguments Itsuki makes where he compares suicide to marijuana use. How is he gonna convince everyone that the suicide law will decrease the number of deaths when literally after it got announced, a fuck ton of people just offed themselves. He also claims that by implementing the suicide law, people will start taking it seriously. In what sense actually? Even before the law, people already talk about their problems and contemplate suicide as an option and even if it will be implemented in the future, there's nothing stopping people from committing suicide of their own choice. |
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| I'm so scared right now. And the plot twist is very unexpected that I feel my insides clench. Can't believe that Zen will come up with the idea but I'm having pessimistic thoughts here oh god. Please |
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| Tbh i can't quite follow the story in this episodes. Too much perspective happen, and the scenes with the debates too boring for me. Even the twists with the kid confession do not surprised me much. I know these show really want to tease everything. But, their attempt there really poor, and i dislike the decision. Well, what is the more focuses on me was Zen's plan. Let see how he handle this whole evil plan to kidnap the major |
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| Well, between four candidates, I was expecting to see at least one of them making Itsuki drop a sweat but nope. In the end, the debate was basically the Mayor playing the other candidates like a champ as well as seeing him fooling Nomaru in his face for the second time. But man, seeing this politicians acting so "polite" sure made me feel ashamed of the ones in my country. Now seriously, it was another highly captivating episode. The debate was truly interesting to see and I found most of the arguments and perspectives being displayed quite convincing. In particular, Nomaru resorting to the emotional side of the voters was a really smart move and I gotta say that I absolutely loved the BGM used when the kid's postulation twist was revealed. Now this said, the fact that nobody checked the identity of the kid or his family background is completely stupid. Probably the biggest flaw in writing so far. On the other hand, Seizaki deciding to kidnap Mayor Itsuki sounds kinda desperate from his part in my opinion so I hope he has a solid strategy behind this decision. |
MassiveAtoms said: Suicide wouldn't be running away but a choice, and because of that, it might actually decrease?!?!? WUT. I don't get the first half, and the second half is blatantly false, because the show mentions a 2.8x increase. His second argument is where he compares the decriminalization and/or legalization of weed with suicide. I kinda like that one. I don't know if this is true irl, but I'll assume so for now. There is still the point that weed usage might depend a lot more on other factors besides the legality of it, and the point that suicide and drug use are very different things and shouldn't be compared that way. Neither true nor false, he's cherry picking countries to agree with his opinion (France vs Netherlands). It would not works with Canada (legal and 44% of consumers) and Japan (illegal 1-2%) or basically any other country except US. |
| That ending was so stupid. The debate itself was mediocre. |
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| Honestly, quite disappointed with the "debate". It was so incredibly shallow, both from the points and counter-points being made and the missing engagement of the participants. I kind of expected to have a deeper dive into the implications of the law and suicide in general. And to have an actual back and forth. With the participants engaging with the counterpoints and argueing against them. Stringing the whole thing together into a coherent discussion. But that didn't happen. The participants made their arguments one after the other and they were dismissed by the flimsiest of handwaves. Which just left them with shouting in opposition. Quite honestly it feels a bit like the author didn't have the wherewithal to write an intelligent discussion. Which makes me worry about the quality of the rest of the series. |
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| What a funny turn of events. Now I want to know how Ai ties into all of this. |
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