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Nov 24, 2018 5:28 PM

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Gerver said:
All this millennials (puke) who dont get Hobbit reference and Beholder, no wonder they cant appreciate the show. Lost generation.


Speaking of Beholder. I'm not sure if it was done intentionally by crunchyroll but...

Nov 24, 2018 5:36 PM

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Just a troll ranting for attention ;-p

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okay stop seeing the anime please, we understand, you don't like goblin slayer, well, you know what to do?
rate the show with a 1 and dropped it.
it's easy.
You're forgetting the part where he's supposed to GTFO and not come back.
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Only_Brad said:
Gerver said:
All this millennials (puke) who dont get Hobbit reference and Beholder, no wonder they cant appreciate the show. Lost generation.


Speaking of Beholder. I'm not sure if it was done intentionally by crunchyroll but...



Yeah,nearly snorted my coffee back out my nose when that came up,would've been better if someone mentioned a tyrant about there too :)

On the same theme though,that has to be the first time I've ever seen someone face powder a Beholder :)
Nov 24, 2018 6:09 PM

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I bet Goblin Slayers cakes are EXPLOSIVE!
Hha..get it..cause..he used flour to make a bomb...*Cough*
(• ε •) i'll see myself out.



Great episode, I wonder what they're gonna do next.
Nov 24, 2018 6:18 PM

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I really love this shot of Goblin Slayer and Sword Maiden.
Hate Keeps me warm
Nov 24, 2018 6:40 PM

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papsoshea said:
AntonioWux said:
It was a chill episode without action, well it had a little bit of action at the end i guess.

What is Goblin slayers sensei he dosnt look like a goblin nor a human or perhaps he is a really ugly human.

Great episode.
His sensei said goblins are smart when the show established that they are intellectually stupid, no smarter than a child (and we ain't talking about child prodigies either). More world building flaws, total inconsistency with inworld facts.


I think what the sensei meant was goblins in general, together they are smart but a single goblin is stupid (ofc there are some exceptions, there are prodigies who evolves)

The opposite of humans where a person is smart but people in general are stupid (ofc the exception this time are smart people gathering together to be even smarter)
Nov 24, 2018 6:41 PM
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Ok, ok we get it. You're so enlightened and all knowing that you feel the need to shit on whatever we enjoy because you have better taste. We simpletons just happen to like this anime so why don't you take your snooty 1/10 self promoting nose elsewhere.


If I was praising this show, you would be 100% in on the circle-jerk, your point? Lol, and those are links to back my points, instead of creating bigger walls of text, it's just better this way. This isn't a fanboy thread, this is an episode discussion and I believe I am doing exactly that.

TsukuyomiREKT said:
@papsoshea You care way too much about shitting on this show and anyone who likes it. You know you can just drop it and ignore it right?
"Don't like? Don't watch!" lol a common use of damage control. I am simply giving my opinion, this is an episode discussion, it ain't no circle-jerk fanboy thread. And my points are valid because I actually watch the show! Feel free to engage in the conversation here.

idontknowsarcasm said:
okay stop seeing the anime please, we understand, you don't like goblin slayer, well, you know what to do?
rate the show with a 1 and dropped it.
it's easy.


Basically, you're saying you don't want me to have an opinion. This is a common form of damage control as shown above. I mean you rated it a 9 while I haven't given the show an overall score yet. What's your point? Again. this is an episode discussion, not a fanboy thread where we circle-jerk. How about actually debating my points WITHOUT moving the goal posts, taking things out of context and using arguments filled with fallacies? I'll wait.

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i say it because, if you don't like the anime from the start, we are you going to still watching something you don't like, if you were praising the show i would not say something because you still see it because you like it.
but what you do it's still seeing something you don't like, you can give your opinion of course but at this point you are still shiting on it, then that must mean that you did not like it.if you don't like it, drop,1 and continue till you see some show that you like.
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Nov 24, 2018 6:43 PM

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@papsoshea Damage control? Yeah, no. It’s more like common sense. Get a life already man.

Nov 24, 2018 6:54 PM

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@papsoshea You really don’t give up huh? Lol.

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papsoshea said:
Lairucrem said:
I think what the sensei meant was goblins in general, together they are smart but a single goblin is stupid (ofc there are some exceptions, there are prodigies who evolves)

The opposite of humans where a person is smart but people in general are stupid (ofc the exception this time are smart people gathering together to be even smarter)


In general, the inworld fact is that they are stupid along with being weak and small in size, they are supposed to be to that of children - it's literally one of the first things we learn about them. And we have seen enough that when they are in numbers, how stupid they actually are. Take the last episode as an example, even though priestess had a protection spell up, they still unintelligently rushed and bombarded against the spell, some even being killed in the process. And when a higher class like a Shaman is behind them, he is giving the orders or controlling them so they aren't even smart then.

idontknowsarcasm said:
i say it because, if you don't like the anime from the start, we are you going to still watching something you don't like, if you were praising the show i would not say something because you still see it because you like it.
but what you do it's still seeing something you don't like, you can give your opinion of course but at this point you are still shiting on it, then that must mean that you did not like it.if you don't like it, drop,1 and continue till you see some show that you like.
(sorry for my english)


Sigh!

Read: https://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=819772



TsukuyomiREKT said:
@papsoshea I have no arguments so I will shut down with dissension instead.


Go figure!





It's just a show dude. Chill lol if you don't like it, drop it. But stop spamming the forum.
Nov 24, 2018 6:58 PM

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Figured this would turn into a harem. These episodes don't really work that well with this type of show, feels like a waste of time cause shit didn't happen. Well whatever, GS should of stuck his dick in the priestess' mouth the way she was clutching on him.
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papsoshea said:
Lairucrem said:
I think what the sensei meant was goblins in general, together they are smart but a single goblin is stupid (ofc there are some exceptions, there are prodigies who evolves)

The opposite of humans where a person is smart but people in general are stupid (ofc the exception this time are smart people gathering together to be even smarter)


In general, the inworld fact is that they are stupid along with being weak and small in size, they are supposed to be to that of children - it's literally one of the first things we learn about them. And we have seen enough that when they are in numbers, how stupid they actually are. Take the last episode as an example, even though priestess had a protection spell up, they still unintelligently rushed and bombarded against the spell, some even being killed in the process. And when a higher class like a Shaman is behind them, he is giving the orders or controlling them so they aren't even smart then.

idontknowsarcasm said:
i say it because, if you don't like the anime from the start, we are you going to still watching something you don't like, if you were praising the show i would not say something because you still see it because you like it.
but what you do it's still seeing something you don't like, you can give your opinion of course but at this point you are still shiting on it, then that must mean that you did not like it.if you don't like it, drop,1 and continue till you see some show that you like.
(sorry for my english)


Sigh!

Read: https://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=819772



TsukuyomiREKT said:
@papsoshea I have no arguments so I will shut down with dissension instead.


Go figure!


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that's dumb, atleast it's dumb if you are going to watch the whole show if you don't like it, why do you think people created the 3 episodes rule?
and for more reasons you give about why it sucks, you can't decide the story.
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what i'm trying to say it's: if you don't like a show atleast 3 episodes in, stop watching, dropp it.
what you are doing it's hate criticism not constructive criticism, you point things that are easily explained if you were to pay atention but you just decide to hate on whatever you don't understand first or you did not get.
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keep watching the show would be masochism if you permit me use that term.
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paposhea doesn't even understand what damage control means.
Nov 24, 2018 7:52 PM
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Sigh, just binge all the available eps in one go and as expected from the first episode that started out with no hint of world building and with one dimensional characters that were introduced just to die and get raped (and never seen again) or saved the show is just another rubbish moe isekai harem but without the actual isekia. Literally just another boring and bland protagonist going around and collecting equally as boring and bland cum dumpsters with their main trait being their affection towards him like 99% of every harem ever with some violence and gore thrown in every once in a while.

They should have just made this waste of time an actual isekai and be done with it.

And I like how we are 8 episodes in and how little bearing the events from previous episodes have on the one note characters and the non-existent plot of this garbage.

Let’s see if the remaining 4 episodes can change my mind a little on this rubbish of an anime, I doubt it will but I'm an idiot and like to hope.

Nov 24, 2018 7:54 PM
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Copper_guy said:
Sigh, just binge all the available eps in one go and as expected from the first episode that started out with no hint of world building and with one dimensional characters that were introduced just to die and get raped (and never seen again) or saved the show is just another rubbish moe isekai harem but without the actual isekia. Literally just another boring and bland protagonist going around and collecting equally as boring and bland cum dumpsters with their main trait being their affection towards him like 99% of every harem ever with some violence and gore thrown in every once in a while.

They should have just made this waste of time an actual isekai and be done with it.

And I like how we are 8 episodes in and how little bearing the events from previous episodes have on the one note characters and the non-existent plot of this garbage.

Let’s see if the remaining 4 episodes can change my mind a little on this rubbish of an anime, I doubt it will but I'm an idiot and like to hope.


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what kind of plot do you want? the story it's about the goblin slayer and it's adventures.
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papsoshea said:
idontknowsarcasm said:
that's dumb, atleast it's dumb if you are going to watch the whole show if you don't like it, why do you think people created the 3 episodes rule?
and for more reasons you give about why it sucks, you can't decide the story.
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what i'm trying to say it's: if you don't like a show atleast 3 episodes in, stop watching, dropp it.
what you are doing it's hate criticism not constructive criticism, you point things that are easily explained if you were to pay atention but you just decide to hate on whatever you don't understand first or you did not get.
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keep watching the show would be masochism if you permit me use that term.


It's not dumb, it makes perfect sense, you can't have a valid opinion on something if you only watched 3 episodes or none. And to know how good or bad something is, you have to watch it to have that valid opinion. I ain't going to watch Boku no Pico ever, but I ain't going to go around and call it trash either because what weight does it hold since I never saw it, all I can say is that I particularly do not have an interest in those types of shows. And you're not even debating any of my points made. Explain the how the resurrection spell isn't Deus Ex Machina? Explain how the examples I gave aren't tonal dissonance? And so on and so forth. But no, you go straight to shutting down with dissension. You can say whatever you like, you don't need any permission lol why can't you handle the fact that there can be opposing opinions? And they can be expressed differently? Can you at least try to contribute to the episode discussion like I have?



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someone already explain your points,and i'm going to stop this discussion with you because i don't think you understand my point.
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@papsoshea For someone who says he really hates Goblin Slayer you seem to care an awful lot about it to the point where you make a post on every episode discussion yelling about how much it sucks as it goes along. If it were me I would have dropped it a long time ago and moved to something else. That's what I did for Bakumatsu, Ulysseus: Jeanne Darc, My Sister My Writer, Conception, and most recently Run With The Wind. Why you feel compelled to keep watching this series when you claim to hate so much makes me wonder how you really feel about the anime. It seems to me you've forgotten everything we talked about back in episode 2, or maybe you just decided to deliberately ignore it because you couldn't find a way to make a good comeback.

And by the way, if this anime really wanted to go all out with the so called "oversexualized fanservice" then GS would be more like Gantz but with a fantasy RPG setting.
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I mean if the scroll was an ass pull, would they have really dedicated large chunks of episode 3 to Goblin Slayer holding and ultimately using the gate scroll?

I sort of think someone here is misunderstanding the nature of an ass pull. Like the writers actually spend time explaining that Goblin Slayer obtained this magic scroll, got a silver-ranked mage to work on it, and carried it and prepared to use it later on...and he does. High Elf Archer tries to look at it, and Goblin Slayer is like "don't touch it, that's dangerous."

It's sort of like that scene in Guardians of the Galaxy where you see Rocket Raccoon building that weapon that's used later on to help them beat Ronan. Like they literally show Rocket messing around with crap and building that weapon. And what does Rocket say? "That's something you want to use when you want to get really hardcore."

To me it would be an ass-pull had they not established earlier that Rocket Raccoon is a gear and engineering head and knows how to build and hack into things, which they do in the prison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz0ud8AscJo

Ass pull would be if Goblin slayer just happens to have this and they never established what it was or explained it. Like, "Oh he's had magical powers this whole time." No he doesn't. This world has ancient magic scrolls that exist. He managed to get ahold of one, had the Witch alter it, and was going to use it for a goblin hunt. Like they went through that step by step. That's NOT an ass pull. To me, that's more like Chekhov's Gun.
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I got rokka no yuusha vibes when I saw GS begging the master to teach him.
Nov 24, 2018 9:00 PM

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So to be clear, we now have:

- Gratuitous rape scenes

- Lingering shots of naked chained-up women being tortured

- Multiple shots of women pissing themselves

- Young women being given large breasts and having their clothes ripped off for no story reason, not even comedy

- Female clerics having "resurrection powers" that they can only use when they fuck a guy AND only when they're virgins (because otherwise they're "impure")

If anyone wants to make a case that the manga author doesn't despise women and that this show is made for anyone other than skeevy dudes who get off on women being used and abused, please go ahead, I could use a laugh.
Nov 24, 2018 9:05 PM

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THAT EXPLOSION! I didn't know that fine sized particles freely suspended in air can easily ignite and explode! Made me check out some videos about it and damn that's really cool!
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DipsterHouchebag said:
So to be clear, we now have:

- Gratuitous rape scenes

- Lingering shots of naked chained-up women being tortured

- Multiple shots of women pissing themselves

- Young women being given large breasts and having their clothes ripped off for no story reason, not even comedy

- Female clerics having "resurrection powers" that they can only use when they fuck a guy AND only when they're virgins (because otherwise they're "impure")

If anyone wants to make a case that the manga author doesn't despise women and that this show is made for anyone other than skeevy dudes who get off on women being used and abused, please go ahead, I could use a laugh.


But it's DARK!





honestly all i enjoyed from this chapter was being like hey it's the eye monster from RPGs
Nov 24, 2018 9:12 PM

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Sword Maiden's nipples harder than my life struggles.

Anyway, I haven't read the manga yet but did Goblin Slayer die and he was resurrected with Priestess and Sword Maiden copulating with his corpse? Since it was a 'resurrection spell' I would really like it if someone could explain it to me. I'm dumb as fuck and probably missing a lot of things if they skipped a lot from the manga or light novel.

We finally got to see GS's face, at least the Anime viewers. He's pretty good-looking, perhaps it's also one of the reasons why Priestess and many of the other women in the series are attracted to him. Ain't sorry that I got a dirty mind and can only think of Sword Maiden as a hentai character. I've seen all the porn with her in it already.

Still loving the banter between Dwarf and High Elf, they're probably my favorite characters along with Lizardman. I'll probably pick up and start reading Goblin Slayer this week but I'm still balancing reading time with fifteen other manga and it's hard since I love binge-reading.
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DipsterHouchebag said:
So to be clear, we now have:

- Gratuitous rape scenes

- Lingering shots of naked chained-up women being tortured

- Multiple shots of women pissing themselves

- Young women being given large breasts and having their clothes ripped off for no story reason, not even comedy

- Female clerics having "resurrection powers" that they can only use when they fuck a guy AND only when they're virgins (because otherwise they're "impure")

If anyone wants to make a case that the manga author doesn't despise women and that this show is made for anyone other than skeevy dudes who get off on women being used and abused, please go ahead, I could use a laugh.


No more than George R.R. Martin, David Benioff, and DB Weiss.

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Sword Maiden's nipples harder than my life struggles.

Anyway, I haven't read the manga yet but did Goblin Slayer die and he was resurrected with Priestess and Sword Maiden copulating with his corpse? Since it was a 'resurrection spell' I would really like it if someone could explain it to me. I'm dumb as fuck and probably missing a lot of things if they skipped a lot from the manga or light novel.


No. He was only near death. Think Princess Bride "mostly dead." There was also no sex or copulation involved. They had to lay next to him and pray for several hours while Sword Maiden performed the spell. Here is what light novel says about the ritual:

Resurrection, rather, was a miracle for those who were on the border between life and death, pulling them back to this side of the veil.


Also this:

Resurrection: a healing miracle that surpassed Minor Heal and Refresh. It could give warmth to a champion of old, tormented by the cold, or it could cool the temper of a raging hero. When the barbarian king had been gravely wounded, it protected him from the spirits of death.


Despite the name, the ritual can't actually bring the dead back to life. It basically brings one back from the brink of death or near death.
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DipsterHouchebag said:
So to be clear, we now have:

- Gratuitous rape scenes

- Lingering shots of naked chained-up women being tortured

- Multiple shots of women pissing themselves

- Young women being given large breasts and having their clothes ripped off for no story reason, not even comedy

- Female clerics having "resurrection powers" that they can only use when they fuck a guy AND only when they're virgins (because otherwise they're "impure")

If anyone wants to make a case that the manga author doesn't despise women and that this show is made for anyone other than skeevy dudes who get off on women being used and abused, please go ahead, I could use a laugh.


No more than George R.R. Martin, David Benioff, and DB Weiss.



I wouldn't go to the mat to defend GoT or ASOIAF (I mean, the books are even worse than the show with regards to women being horrifically abused) but I will say that at least they went out of their way to make situations horrible and repellent. At times I'm really not sure Goblin Slayer cares about that. It feels like soft-core hentai.
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Bibimbapski said:
Sword Maiden's nipples harder than my life struggles.

Anyway, I haven't read the manga yet but did Goblin Slayer die and he was resurrected with Priestess and Sword Maiden copulating with his corpse? Since it was a 'resurrection spell' I would really like it if someone could explain it to me. I'm dumb as fuck and probably missing a lot of things if they skipped a lot from the manga or light novel.


No. He was only near death. Think Princess Bride "mostly dead." There was also no sex or copulation involved. They had to lay next to him and pray for several hours while Sword Maiden performed the spell. Here is what light novel says about the ritual:

Resurrection, rather, was a miracle for those who were on the border between life and death, pulling them back to this side of the veil.


Also this:

Resurrection: a healing miracle that surpassed Minor Heal and Refresh. It could give warmth to a champion of old, tormented by the cold, or it could cool the temper of a raging hero. When the barbarian king had been gravely wounded, it protected him from the spirits of death.


Despite the name, the ritual can't actually bring the dead back to life. It basically brings one back from the brink of death or near death.


Thanks for explaining everything. I really appreciate it, man, now I understand, it was a bit confusing for me at first but I think I'll be able to understand more once I start reading both the manga and light novel. :)
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No more than George R.R. Martin, David Benioff, and DB Weiss.



I wouldn't go to the mat to defend GoT or ASOIAF (I mean, the books are even worse than the show with regards to women being horrifically abused) but I will say that at least they went out of their way to make situations horrible and repellent. At times I'm really not sure Goblin Slayer cares about that. It feels like soft-core hentai.


Well for one thing, the women didn't have sex with anyone. Resurrection does not require sex. Sex removes its power. That's a logical fallacy you listed up above.

For another, Game of Thrones as the winner of 38 Emmy awards and the most winning show in TV history, doesn't really need you to defend it.

Why don't you ask the wives of George RR Martin, Weiss, and Benioff if they are just skeevy perves who hate women?
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yosei yunde romance WHEN
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This episode needed more goblins.


I don't why you guys keeps giving him attention, if you just ignore him he will just go way. That kind of user feeds on just messing with people, you could just do what he can't do, ignore him and move onto something woth of your time

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- even GS face doesnt actually shown, but atleast we know that GS pass a quite dark past
- it sound funny for me, sword maiden that defeat a demon king but raped by goblins... it make laught a little
- no goblin on this episode,
- pepping eye is the one of most weakest enemies on castlevania
- using dust for explode... accelerator and megumin approve.

@papsoshea
- you're almost replying every comment in here, what exactly are you doing?
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UTJeff316 said:
DipsterHouchebag said:


I wouldn't go to the mat to defend GoT or ASOIAF (I mean, the books are even worse than the show with regards to women being horrifically abused) but I will say that at least they went out of their way to make situations horrible and repellent. At times I'm really not sure Goblin Slayer cares about that. It feels like soft-core hentai.


Well for one thing, the women didn't have sex with anyone. Resurrection does not require sex. Sex removes its power. That's a logical fallacy you listed up above.

For another, Game of Thrones as the winner of 38 Emmy awards and the most winning show in TV history, doesn't really need you to defend it.

Why don't you ask the wives of George RR Martin, Weiss, and Benioff if they are just skeevy perves who hate women?


Let's see, the underage girl is naked in bed with him, the head priestess asks how it was "sharing a bed" with both of them, he replies "not bad", and then mentions it requires them being a virgin to work but she's not really pure anymore (so she did it for fun?), then hangs all over him with lingering shots on her breasts. The show completely implies that they fucked him, and that it only worked because the girl was still a virgin BEFOREHAND.

Oh, and please, let's keep moving the goal posts (since you like to use eye-rolling internet pedant terminology like "logical fallacy"). Want to bring in a third show to distract from the one show we were talking about? Is there any other rape-o-rific show you enjoy that you'd like to talk about? And did you know GoT won 38 Emmys off the top of your head or did you Google just to make your bizarre nonsensical point? (either way it's hilarious)
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- oh, i almost forget! "What is in my pocket?".. it look like it was The Hobbit refference
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DipsterHouchebag said:

Let's see, the underage girl is naked in bed with him, the head priestess asks how it was "sharing a bed" with both of them, he replies "not bad", and then mentions it requires them being a virgin to work but she's not really pure anymore (so she did it for fun?), then hangs all over him with lingering shots on her breasts. The show completely implies that they fucked him, and that it only worked because the girl was still a virgin BEFOREHAND.


Yeah shared a bed as in they shared a bed. There was no sex though. Sword Maiden is referring to herself. She's no longer pure because she was raped 10 years ago by goblins. She wasn't referring to Priestess. Priestess is still a virgin. Priestess provided the maiden's purity. Sword Maiden then cast the spell. She didn't do it for fun. She was kidnapped and raped by goblins beforehand.

So yeah, you are making garbage up. Blatant hot garbage.


Oh, and please, let's keep moving the goal posts (since you like to use eye-rolling internet pedant terminology like "logical fallacy"). Want to bring in a third show to distract from the one show we were talking about? Is there any other rape-o-rific show you enjoy that you'd like to talk about? And did you know GoT won 38 Emmys off the top of your head or did you Google just to make your bizarre nonsensical point? (either way it's hilarious)


Saying the creators hate women is garbage. Sorry. It's akin to saying the Game of Thrones author and creators hate women and are just dirty, skeevy perverts.

You really have no proof to back that up. Some of the strongest warriors and characters in this story are the women. I'd hardly call their figures or attraction to Goblin Slayer some sort of proof that the authors are just skeevy dirty old men who hate women and want to do terrible things to them.

No subject matter is off limits when telling a story. Depiction of abhorrent acts is not consent or endorsement of said acts.
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Just when you think this anime couldn't get any more trashier, it goes on to prove you wrong every time! Lol, more tonal dissonance from how episode 7 ended to the beginning of this episode where we have the "pleasure" of seeing some fanservice of some little tits from priestess and big tits from Sword Maiden lol and all those gratuitous camera shots on her boobs for what reason? And you get jack shit out of that scene - first, how are they healed? Well reason: Deus Ex Machina!

And why did this spell have to revolve around a perverted theme that it can only work by sleeping with a virgin? Excuse for fanservice. And the Sword Maiden likes Gobin Slayer for what reasons? That whole scene just inconsistency with the tone again when trying to delve into past trauma which makes the whole thing pointless!

Then more Slice of Life and generic comedic vibes when this show is "supposedly" a dark and mature fantasy (which many claimed in the episode 1 discussion) lol and the abysmal dialogue continues, Goblin Slayers dialogue is so cringe and pointless - and this episode just keeps proving the point on how one-dimensional these characters are, they are 99% incapable of talking about anything that isn't related to Goblin Slayer, even when Lancer-wannabe and Big tits Sorceress show up, conveniently bringing a bag of ass-pull (Big tits Sorceress's dialogue is retarded, why does she sound like she's out of breath? Is it because her tits are too big?).

Then immediately jump back into action, against an enemy Goblin Slayer has never fought before, but like always, he reads the script! He just knows everything! You remember how he figured out about the Canary, well he also happened to learn about this being of chaos as well and everything went accordingly to plan. And then the dumb ass one-dimensional characters need to know how he did it, then Goblin Slayer proceeds to tell them and the viewers - this series is so garbage and the studio has had many chances to give it a little more than the trash source material. 1/10 again, these characters are so bad, and why is this show trying to give off the idea that Goblin Slayer and the Priestess has some special relationship when they don't lol

Is everything forgetting how the Priestess character regressed in the last episode where she appeared to be exactly how she was in episode 1? Lol smh


Omfg please stop you virgin
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DipsterHouchebag said:
Let's see, the underage girl is naked in bed with him, the head priestess asks how it was "sharing a bed" with both of them, he replies "not bad", and then mentions it requires them being a virgin to work but she's not really pure anymore (so she did it for fun?), then hangs all over him with lingering shots on her breasts. The show completely implies that they fucked him, and that it only worked because the girl was still a virgin BEFOREHAND.
You have a really dirty mind. Nothing of the sort was implied, but you just see it everywhere. You somehow translate "sharing bed" into "f***ing" and "not bad" into "nice f***ing". Maybe you should be concerned about that, not GS.

Oh, and please, let's keep moving the goal posts (since you like to use eye-rolling internet pedant terminology like "logical fallacy").
Moving the goalpost is "an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded." Nothing of this sort happened. Logical fallacy is not a complex concept. It is way over your head now, but you can get it if you try really hard.
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Wow, that entire response proved two things to me. One, you are completely full of it and two, you have no idea how the real world works. You offer easy solutions to all the problems you've stated yet you fail to realize that it is never as simple as that. You are correct about having a difference of opinion but there's a clear difference between constructive criticism and childish rants, and what you're doing here is exactly the latter.

Everything has been explained to you in full detail and in a respectable manner yet you continue to be a jerk to everyone by brushing all of them off because they don't match your own perspectives and you can't stand the fact that not everyone here agrees with you. And you expect us to respect your opinions? No, sorry, that isn't the how it works pal. If you want people to respect you you need to show that same kind of respect as well, not throwing temper tantrums and calling everyone names whenever someone criticizes or questions your side of the argument.

I know you're not going to read the rest of this but allow me to make one last effort to explain things to you.

- The Goblin Slayer/Batman comparison isn't as abysmal as you think. If you really took the time to think about you would find that my comparison isn't a stretch. Any you seriously don't think that Batman had his own hatred and had moments where he was almost pushed to the brink? Especially with the Joker after what he did to Tim Drake(Robin) in the Batman Beyond movie?

- The adventures come to the guild to do a job and to get paid doing it even at the risk of their own lives. The clerks cannot prevent them from taking whatever jobs they want no matter how many warnings they give. If the adventures can't the job they signed up for because of some regulation enforced by the clerks they'll just go to some other guild. So what difference would it make? They are the ones putting their lives on the line. And you saying that that clerk doesn't care if they live or die is complete BS. We've seen plenty of times where she's relieved to see adventures coming back alive safe and sound even if a little beat up.

- The army has its hands full dealing with the Demon Lord's army or whatever it is. It cannot spare any troops to deal with goblins. And it doesn't seem to me that the goblins have been attacking settlements as often as they used to, so we have Goblin Slayer and others to thank for that.

- If you have trouble believing that a noob can get over a traumatic event very quickly given the current situation try watching The Pacific miniseries and then try having that conversation with me again.

And oh, forgive me if my explanation about GS and his archery skills offended you so much. I sincerely believed you were asking an honest question and as someone who has done archery before I was simply being a nice guy by explaining it to you but it's clear to me now that you're one of those people who thinks only their opinion matters and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot.

Now, unless you actually have something intelligent to say I suggest you shut the hell up and stop acting like child. And don't come back here playing victim and saying, "Oh, you just being mean because you don't want me to have an opinion!" because no one on here is buying it.
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A character talking about their rape trauma while the show focuses on their breasts to titillate the viewers as this is being discussed. Keeping it classy, I see. I'd love to see someone try to defend this, really.
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ChyllyWylly said:
A character talking about their rape trauma while the show focuses on their breasts to titillate the viewers as this is being discussed. Keeping it classy, I see. I'd love to see someone try to defend this, really.


A constant reminder of that time when she was raped makes her nipples hard. That's just how dark this fantasy is lmao
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DipsterHouchebag said:
So to be clear, we now have:

- Gratuitous rape scenes

- Lingering shots of naked chained-up women being tortured

- Multiple shots of women pissing themselves

- Young women being given large breasts and having their clothes ripped off for no story reason, not even comedy

- Female clerics having "resurrection powers" that they can only use when they fuck a guy AND only when they're virgins (because otherwise they're "impure")

If anyone wants to make a case that the manga author doesn't despise women and that this show is made for anyone other than skeevy dudes who get off on women being used and abused, please go ahead, I could use a laugh.


Did you even watch the episode, or are you just making a list of things to whine about? Tumblr is over yonder, that's the place for complaints like these. They didn't have sex so based on your last bullet point I'm beginning to think you were frothing in rage too much to have paid much attention to the episode.
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Luck, wisdom...and courage? Shouldn't it be Power, Wisdom, and Courage?

GOBLIN SLAYER IN THE FLESH!

Sharing a bed with Priestess and Sword Maiden? And why is Sword Maiden not wearing a blindfold this time? AND WHY ARE YOU SO...ERECT? Wait...Miracle of Resurrection...by sleeping with a virgin...Ok!

Sword Maiden was raped...and yet...she seems to actually enjoy it...Oh God. We have a naughty maiden...

"All you say is 'yeah' and 'I see'." Lol. This is actually surprising for an anime to make its MC aware of his own speech patterns...

He's still wearing the helmet lol.

"A sword like that is only good for goblins."
"I'll use it to kill goblins." Hahaha. Typical Goblin Slayer.

"I'm afraid that if I take a single step, I will die...Even now, I'm scared to death." For an MC to admit his weakness, these words mean a lot. This is all I needed to know. Thank you anime.

An eyeball that shoots lasers...reminds me of the Beholders and Evil Eyes from Heroes of Might and Magic III. And Lizardman called it "Evil Eye" so that's pretty accurate.

"Immediately cast Protection on the entrance. This plan relies on you. If you mess up, we die." Priest Girl is the tank. If she fails, everyone dies. THIS IS A RAID BATTLE!

Lol, if the flour didn't ignite, they'd just bait-and-switch it with Elf Girl.

Mirror Portal?
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papsoshea said:
lamawalrus said:
I don't think you're wrong to dislike the show, but you're really reaching for a lot of these points in my eyes.

You keep using "tonal dissonance" for entirely standard plot devices. The "wake up the day after fainting during disaster", the "happy-go-lucky attitude before they are crushed for their naivety", the mixing of grim dark and sexual themes, mixing sexual tension with revealing private memories or thoughts, all of this is entirely standard for the genre whether it is in games or shows.

Contrast does not equal dissonance. Mixing dark themes with sexual themes is not necessarily dissonance, it's a common and liked combination.

I also think the sexual themes they use are tacky, poorly executed and the explanations lackluster (in terms of being interesting, not in terms of being inconsistent as you say) but I don't think what you say is why.


That is an out-universe example for in-universe points. If they want viewers to take themes like rape and torture seriously then they wouldn't introduce kawaii anime troupes like fluffball Slice-of-Life and generic comedic vibes between. How are we suppose to take a victim of rape and her trauma seriously with the setting and tone of the scene is all fluffball and fanservicey? This is tonal dissonance. There are other ways to transition into other themes and tones but Goblin Slayer fails to execute this. Here let me take a page out of everyone's book here and use an out-universe example, imagine if Berserk had its characters act exactly how Goblin Slayer character act in their cutesy pie, happy-go-lucky tone immediately between hardcore gore and grimdark segments? Literally straight being in a life or death situation?

And explain why? What was the point of the spell, really? Not only is it Deus Ex Machina but the conditions were designed for fanservice. Explain why in episode 7, the Priestess and Sword Maiden had to have a talk about "PTSD" in a setting like that? There are multiple ways to reveal and chronicle her scars but the point was for fanservice. I mean we can go all day on this if you want, tell me, what purpose does this serve?



This isn't even half of it.


I don't think your in vs out universe distinction is useful here at all. Your most interesting points are about tone and how it changes between scenes, and we disagree on what's an acceptable transition. How they explain it in terms of the world is varying degrees of "whatever" to me.

The life or death situation is over, this is why I call it the "wake up the day after" scene, the dangerous scene is concluded. In this case even the fight is over and there's not much more to say about the cave. Of course this contrast shouldn't be used willy nilly, and it isn't, it would be amusing if Frodo's wakeup scene in LOTR happened 10 times instead of one.

I don't think Deus Ex Machina really covers it, too simplistic. This to me is like calling a hospital visit Deus Ex Machina, its entirely expected within this world that there are healing miracles. That it was this strong and came without warning is a wasted opportunity I agree.

The purpose seems to be some fan service, some character progression, resolving the question about why mvp maiden demon killer hero wants help with goblins, to name a few. The wakeup scene struck me as pretty tacky in general though.
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papsoshea said:
This is damage control lol you concede it is Deus Ex Machina. How many times was this spell mentioned previously? It didn't explain in detail how it works and it was saved until now which makes it a Deus Ex Machina, I mean its basically a "resurrection" spell and it needs specific conditions for it to work for the sake of fan service, sorry lol
If you want to see it as a Deus Ex Machina feel free to do so then I guess


Despite it being a fantasy show and using something from fantasy
papsoshea said:
It ain't "cheerful moments" to the likes that you imply lol it is a valid critique because of tonal dissonance, learn what it means.
Its not even tonal dissonance
papsoshea said:
You obviously care, that's why you replied to me lol and the fact that using general audience responses can be used to validate a point you're trying to get across in criticism is legit yet you tried to claim otherwise lol
Lol implying you're some kind of critic
papsoshea said:
Yes, it is, it's called tonal dissonance.
Now you're just throwing the word at everything randomly lol
papsoshea said:
No, acting like past events didn't even occur is just bad writing, all it does is makes viewers not take life or death situations seriously when we all know there won't be consequences and the characters act like nothing happened, just like in this episode.
Characters aren't pretending like nothing happened though. Again it would be good if you payed attention to whats actually happening in the show
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The use of it was explained only after, the fact that it showed it with zero context, so he had a win condition no matter what when going to fight an Ogre, you know, something he has never faced before but everything went conveniently to plan? Because he is reading the script, just like in this episode.
This isn't even critic. Its you pulling straws to have an excuse for disliking the show which is clearly the only reason you're here
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Not when everything is convenient, and "show don't tell" in this situation is basically another way of saying ass-pull. You should actually read what you're saying lol yeah, after everything conveniently goes to plan, its the perfect opportunity to let everyone know that not only the miners gave him details about the Canary but also for this situation, and how many theories work for the first time with zero fails? It wouldn't be such a big flaw if he wasn't mary sueing the entire time since episode 1.
Using the term Mary Sue I see
papsoshea said:
You triggered lol
oh you say I'm triggered huh
guess you're salty huh
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and we got a pretty nice half time with Priestess being cute and Goblin Slayer being a Goblin Slayer



Glad someone made a GIF of that scene. ^_^
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Came in to remark on how the flour explosion scene turned out... Awesome and pretty decently animated it was. But damn some of the people posting in this episodes thread have some serious fucking issues.
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If anyone wants to make a case that the manga author doesn't despise women and that this show is made for anyone other than skeevy dudes who get off on women being used and abused, please go ahead, I could use a laugh.
"It was already established in episode 1 that women have it shit in this world, but watch me tear this wahmen-hating author a new one...eight episodes in...Btw, where's my pat on the back? I don't do this for free, you guys."

DipsterHouchebag said:
The show completely implies that they fucked him.
Talk about grasping at straws lol. This post implies that you're a bigger retard than I first thought, OP.
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Just when you think this anime couldn't get any more trashier, it goes on to prove you wrong every time! Lol, more tonal dissonance from how episode 7 ended to the beginning of this episode where we have the "pleasure" of seeing some fanservice of some little tits from priestess and big tits from Sword Maiden lol and all those gratuitous camera shots on her boobs for what reason? And you get jack shit out of that scene - first, how are they healed? Well reason: Deus Ex Machina!

And why did this spell have to revolve around a perverted theme that it can only work by sleeping with a virgin? Excuse for fanservice. And the Sword Maiden likes Gobin Slayer for what reasons? That whole scene just inconsistency with the tone again when trying to delve into past trauma which makes the whole thing pointless!

Then more Slice of Life and generic comedic vibes when this show is "supposedly" a dark and mature fantasy (which many claimed in the episode 1 discussion) lol and the abysmal dialogue continues, Goblin Slayers dialogue is so cringe and pointless - and this episode just keeps proving the point on how one-dimensional these characters are, they are 99% incapable of talking about anything that isn't related to Goblin Slayer, even when Lancer-wannabe and Big tits Sorceress show up, conveniently bringing a bag of ass-pull (Big tits Sorceress's dialogue is retarded, why does she sound like she's out of breath? Is it because her tits are too big?).

Then immediately jump back into action, against an enemy Goblin Slayer has never fought before, but like always, he reads the script! He just knows everything! You remember how he figured out about the Canary, well he also happened to learn about this being of chaos as well and everything went accordingly to plan. And then the dumb ass one-dimensional characters need to know how he did it, then Goblin Slayer proceeds to tell them and the viewers - this series is so garbage and the studio has had many chances to give it a little more than the trash source material. 1/10 again, these characters are so bad, and why is this show trying to give off the idea that Goblin Slayer and the Priestess has some special relationship when they don't lol

Is everything forgetting how the Priestess character regressed in the last episode where she appeared to be exactly how she was in episode 1? Lol smh


The healing ritual requires to share a bed with a virgin. Sword Maiden was there because the priestess doesn't know how to do it herself. I agree it does have some fan service, but it's not a show breaker and a big deal as you set it out to be.
The dvelving in past trauma is a good tool to use for characters, you're just shitting on it for no reason other then to try to make the show look bad.
The light hearted moments are a good contrast with the dark theme of the show, you can't have constant 24/7 dark scenes because it will tire out the watchers/readers. You clearly don't know what you're talking about here. As for the big boobed Sorceress, she slows down her speech pattern on purpose, due to her knowing so many spells that she doesn't want to set one off accidentally.
GS killed the beholder from the information that the group gave him, he is not reading off of the script, he is using the information he got from the group and the flour thing which is not an ass pull. IT'S HOW IT WORKS. The priestess didn't regress, she is slowly changing. I'd rather have slow character changing then a complete 180. Your comment really shows how you pay no attention.
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The episode was nice. Still one of the worse episodes. Not as bad as the worst one - the one where Goblin Slayer helped with the advancement exam and besides that we only got to see some noobs. That was annoying.

Here I did not like that it was too fast/sudden - with the resurrecting. They could have shown how the others carried him outside and stuff. Also the service with sleeping with virgins in a bed ... was a bit weird. And the Sword Maiden annoying as always. But that did not take too much of the time of this episode. (And hopefully in future seasons they'll leave that town and Sword Maiden won't show up anymore then.)

Showing the cow girl wasn't really necessary. I don't care. But it was "okay". The flashback with the teacher/master ... I did not need it. A bit annoying. (Guy looks like a rat from Shinsekai Yori lol.)


I think the action and interaction (mainly comedy) between the chars - works fine and best. Every now ant then some serious scenes. Slayer would be better without too much background (which usually in other cases would be needed here it is more annoying, taking away screen time from better stuff).

Priestess and Slayer walking through the streets was nice though. Their interaction/dialogue ... feels like Slayer starts to trust her and maybe he will talk more about his past with her in the future. The stuff with the sweets (ice cream) was nice though. Nice way to give him background without "interrupting" (flashback, annoying) - it showed that he knows that kids like sweet stuff. (Cause I guess he himself liked it and the other family/friends that got killed and made him hate goblins.)
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An almost useless episode, if it were not for some small details that save it in extremis.
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I need more of the witch and that Sword Maiden please.
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