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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Natsume was quite the Rambo from last episode. That really impressed me of how amazing I was right to that from last episode. Things are really going wild but there is much more the presences of a message among the multiple other ones being presented. That is what is making it more interesting. Natsume however, just wow still. |
| So it was him who killed Ringo's sister on the train during the incident. And about that weird guy being dead... he wishes for destroying the world, and listens to him. She was not just sister, but also twin? Himari wants Shouma to rescue Kamba being lost, but Kamba sided with the pink hair guy and made Shouma unconscious. Ringo was unable to save the book, either. Love is useless... What?? The hat is voiced by Toyosaki-san?? And she said Kamba and Shouma are the two that can save the world and find Penguindrum on the train?? HEROES ~Eiyuutachi (HEROES ~英雄たち) by Triple H was a cool ED. Finally more about Shouma in the box... he was been in there for many days and seeing Kamba in another box. Next ep. is really the final ep.?? Wow. Kamba vs. Shouma?? |
tsubasaloverDec 15, 2011 11:35 AM
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| Can't believe kanba burnt the diary pieces so easily... He didn't trust the penguin hat? And if Sanetoshi can have his form show up while the rabbits are still separate entities, why cant momoka do the same with the hats?.. He dare leave both penguin hats alone?.. wouldn't it be better if he destroyed those as well?.. |
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| Shouma is being hugged by everyone. T_T why? I'm still rooting for Ringo but why was the scene btw Himari and shouma so romantic? I still think Ringo might be able to do something about the diary. Yuri told her she can "surely" someday... |
| Wow, this episode is made for building up the dislike for Kanba. I couldn't believe he knocked out Shouma, lead Ringo into that trap and then burned the diary. Shouma and Himari scene - romantic and sweet. I'm somewhat expected those two ending being alone together, but since every one else cheated death this time it might not be so. Momoka being the two penguin hats was pointed out before and still interesting. I think the two hats needs to be together in order to let Momoka materialize, Sanetoshi always has the two bunnies by his side after all. |
| OMG!!!!!!! THIS WAS FABULOUS MAX Did i just see Kanba hugging Shouma?*A* Fangirl scream Hum so i thought i would be mentally prepared for Ikuhara´s next troll because i would be sure that he would troll us again, but i guess im never ready. I mean i didnt expect Kanba to shoot Shouma, or Himari being naked and kissing Shouma. it was just so romantic, forgive me Ringo T_T Wow. So now we know the Penguindrum lies in Kanba and Shouma and only those two can save the world. At least we finally know Momoka was divided into the 2 penguin hats...which makes her the Princess of Crystal XD Wow, her princess personality is quite arrogant, rotfl. Anyway i still have a bad feeling about it. I believe Shou will be replacing Momoka and consequently dying. He is with Momoka now and Kanba is with Sanetoshi in the train filled with bombs so its the same event that took Momoka´s life. Also, it seems that real Momoka can only talk to Shouma, otherwise she would be as princess of crystal, but this time we know its Momoka and she was waiting for Shouma. Penguindrum must be something Shou and Kan got in the time they both got stuck in the boxes? perhaps this will turn into shounen-ai and Kanba will realize that the one he really loved was Shouma XP kidding. |
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| Ringo-chan!!!!! D: and did Masako just save Shouma with that ball? o-o |
Orulyon said: perhaps this will turn into shounen-ai and Kanba will realize that the one he really loved was Shouma XP kidding. this. I replayed that hug at least 3 times xD |
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| Another roller coaster of emotions, bravo. Can't really see this ending happily though. Next Thursday can't come soon enough |
| That was a fabulous max episode. I wonder if Mario will ever do anything next episode. |
c-lick said: I wonder if Mario will ever do anything next episode. I think that's likely. He does have the other Momoka-penguin hat, after all. I expect hope Ringo plays a big role next episode. Even though the diary's gone, I can't imagine she'd just sit around and do nothing. Poor Ringo, I hope she's okay... Really liked the snowy Shouma-Ringo scene. <3 OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE EPISODE OF PENGUINDRUM T___T |
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| This episode really made me dislike Kanba, doing everything like a heartless bastard and all, he might have a plan.... Ringo getting blown up by the time bomb... could've seen it coming, tick,tick,tick. Sanetoshi isn't as awesome as I used to thought he was though, still confused HOW he can be a ghost, maybe they'll explain later. Just nothing more to say then, it was an awesome episode. |
fireteam_torch said: I think that's likely. He does have the other Momoka-penguin hat, after all. I expect hope Ringo plays a big role next episode. Even though the diary's gone, I can't imagine she'd just sit around and do nothing. Poor Ringo, I hope she's okay... Really liked the snowy Shouma-Ringo scene. <3 OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE EPISODE OF PENGUINDRUM T___T but it seems that second hat has Sanetoshi inside as first one was with Momoka all along - so he can be there. He is also a ghost, can use Survival Strategy thing... so he and Princess are similar. |
| Very good episode,the beginning of the end. So we finally see wtf happen to Momoka she was divided in the 2 hats that explain a lot of shit. Good to see Natsume its "alive" she was to nice to die specially of how cool she was last episode,also it looks that she save Shouma in this episode,even more nice she is alive. The diary is destroy my poor Ringo trying to save the diary even that it means get burn :( Kanba really had become Sanetoshi puppet he just see the darkest way to save Himari. I really enjoy the ShoumaXHimari scene and ya the only one that can save Kanba is him,next episode it all ends lets see if is a happy ending or...... |
| Satenoshi could had a little more time to develop as a villian , but it was ok , maybe we will see more next episodes. himari survived again , shouma shoot was trolling , natsume death too . i really see everyone surviving next episode , hope not. |
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| IM NOT READY FOR THIS TO END!!! T________T |
| Awesome episode! So many beautiful seqences. Shoma is the Master of Romantic in this episode. Next episode boys'll have to come of of their closets boxes! Can't wait can't wait can't wait |
| Hahaha, I believe that a decision to watch the final arc without commenting and thinking much on it was wise one. Getting so many answers and confirmations of our theories is really nice. 1. My trolling guess is that the burned diary didn't contain the spell. I believe the spell might be in a book Himari took from the library in episode 9, i.e. in the "Superfrog saves Tokyo". Considering Mario and Himari are both controlled by Momoka, Mario should be aware of the book existance. And it now makes sense for him to finally get into the scene and bring this book to Shouma. 2. Kamba and Shouma both riding the train of fate - so they're both pretty much dead now, I guess. My 2nd trolling guess is that all three of them will end up as Triple-H on heaven, i.e. turn into three moiraes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirae - the pic on the wiki even has them dressed on dresses of the same colour as Shouma, Himari, and Kamba's hairs. And the penguins story after the ED aludes to this heavily. Perhaps that's what really is the meaning behind the story: No.1, No.2, and No.3 are the three moiraes. And Himari, Shouma, and Kamba are their earth replicas. Or maybe it's just me seeking for Ringo x Shouma possibilities, haha... 3. Kamba killing Shouma... ah that was so much Cain and Abel like. Ikuhara's truly amazing at mixing all known myths, legends, and religions into a single story... 4. I wonder about the next episode... it'll be aired 9 minutes later than usual which made m think.. what if they gonna make a double-episode... I mean.. there're 25 stations! I want 25 episodes too...oh well.. I guess we'll see reaching the station 25 after the credits in episode 24.. with the world returning to normal. Orulyon said: Shouma is already dead. Otherwise he would be unable to ride the train of fate, the train which delivers to the destination of fate. Consider the Galaxy Express from the Night on the Galactic Railroad reference. The trip of Giovanni and Campanella.Anyway i still have a bad feeling about it. I believe Shou will be replacing Momoka and consequently dying. He is with Momoka now and Kanba is with Sanetoshi in the train filled with bombs so its the same event that took Momoka´s life. Orulyon said: This time Shouma's already dead - I think that's the only reason he's able to speak with the hat.Also, it seems that real Momoka can only talk to Shouma, otherwise she would be as princess of crystal, but this time we know its Momoka and she was waiting for Shouma. Vanisher said: Come on, he was an obvious villain since his appearance in episode 9. His sweetness in later episodes is that of a pure devil.Satenoshi could had a little more time to develop as a villian , but it was ok , maybe we will see more next episodes. Raven_Shinobi said: Yes, I agree. Sanetoshi is just like every other character in the show - abandoned and lonely. If perhaps Momoka "saved" him, he wouldn't even seek for this world's endtimes. I think I even posted something similar before in the episode 20's thread. It was the episode where he talks to Himari about chasing and running. I think Ikuhara raises a really one-million-question here: of God wouldn't abandon Satan and exile him from Heavens but keep sharing love with him, would Satan even start the war against God? I.e. Ikuhara kinda tells us: if everybody just spreaded love without seeking anything in return, would there be a place for abandonement, would there be a place for ill-behaviour?Sanetoshi's monologue at the beginning and the end of the episode raises a lot of question why he's so hell-bent on destroying the world, but I surmised from the bunny assistants that he also might have been an unwanted child and sent to the child broiler. I hope the next episode enlightens us more on his past. |
soulelleDec 16, 2011 4:18 AM
Orulyon said: Did i just see Kanba hugging Shouma?*A* Fangirl scream mikado34 said: Wow, this episode is made for building up the dislike for Kanba. I couldn't believe he knocked out Shouma, lead Ringo into that trap and then burned the diary. Kamba is doing so to rescue Himari. I think he also actually cares for Shouma, too, but he still have to do so to get what he wants. This all goes for the pink hair guy, who got him into involving with his own plan on destroying the world. soulelle said: Hahaha, I believe that a decision to watch the final arc without commenting and thinking much on it was wise one. Getting so many answers and confirmations of our theories is really nice. 1. My trolling guess is that the burned diary didn't contain the spell. I believe the spell might be in a book Himari took from the library in episode 9, i.e. in the "Superfrog saves Tokyo". Considering Mario and Himari are both controlled by Momoka, Mario should be aware of the book existance. And it now makes sense for him to finally get into the scene and bring this book to Shouma. 2. Kamba and Shouma both riding the train of fate - so they're both pretty much dead now, I guess. My 2nd trolling guess is that all three of them will end up as Triple-H on heaven, i.e. turn into three moiraes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirae - the pic on the wiki even has them dressed on dresses of the same colour as Shouma, Himari, and Kamba's hairs. And the penguins story after the ED aludes to this heavily. Perhaps that's what really is the meaning behind the story: No.1, No.2, and No.3 are the three moiraes. And Himari, Shouma, and Kamba are their earth replicas. Or maybe it's just me seeking for Ringo x Shouma possibilities, haha... 3. Kamba killing Shouma... ah that was so much Cain and Abel like. Ikuhara's truly amazing at mixing all known myths, legends, and religions into a single story... 4. I wonder about the next episode... it'll be aired 9 minutes later than usual which made m think.. what if they gonna make a double-episode... I mean.. there're 25 stations! I want 25 episodes too...oh well.. I guess we'll see reaching the station 25 after the credits in episode 24.. with the world returning to normal. Orulyon said: Shouma is already dead. Otherwise he would be unable to ride the train of fate, the train which delivers to the destination of fate. Consider the Galaxy Express from the Night on the Galactic Railroad reference. The trip of Giovanni and Campanella.Anyway i still have a bad feeling about it. I believe Shou will be replacing Momoka and consequently dying. He is with Momoka now and Kanba is with Sanetoshi in the train filled with bombs so its the same event that took Momoka´s life. Orulyon said: This time Shouma's already dead - I think that's the only reason he's able to speak with the hat.Also, it seems that real Momoka can only talk to Shouma, otherwise she would be as princess of crystal, but this time we know its Momoka and she was waiting for Shouma. Vanisher said: Come on, he was an obvious villain since his appearance in episode 9. His sweetness in later episodes is that of a pure devil.Satenoshi could had a little more time to develop as a villian , but it was ok , maybe we will see more next episodes. Raven_Shinobi said: Yes, I agree. Sanetoshi is just like every other character in the show - abandoned and lonely. If perhaps Momoka "saved" him, he wouldn't even seek for this world's endtimes. I think I even posted something similar before in the episode 20's thread. It was the episode where he talks to Himari about chasing and running. I think Ikuhara raises a really one-million-question here: of God wouldn't abandon Satan and exile him from Heavens but keep sharing love with him, would Satan even start the war against God? I.e. Ikuhara kinda tells us: if everybody just spreaded love without seeking anything in return, would there be a place for abandonement, would there be a place for ill-behaviour?Sanetoshi's monologue at the beginning and the end of the episode raises a lot of question why he's so hell-bent on destroying the world, but I surmised from the bunny assistants that he also might have been an unwanted child and sent to the child broiler. I hope the next episode enlightens us more on his past. And wait, Shouma already died? Damn it's really confusing because I thought Kamba only shot him to knock him unconscious. |
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| It is nostalgic to see doctor saentoshi say "Survival Strategy" that was of my most fav. things about this show... |
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| I am looking forward to next week. |
tsubasalover said: well, that's how I understood it. I may be wrong of course. But that white/grey KIGA ball was the same one which was shot in ep.22 before Kamba got wounded. And I also don't think it's possible to ride the train of fate without dying.. oh well.. unless there's an exception as it was the case with Giovanni in the Night on the Galactic Railroad.And wait, Shouma already died? Damn it's really confusing because I thought Kamba only shot him to knock him unconscious. |
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Shouma is already dead. Otherwise he would be unable to ride the train of fate, the train which delivers to the destination of fate. Consider the Galaxy Express from the Night on the Galactic Railroad reference. The trip of Giovanni and Campanella. Kanba is also on that train, so he's dead too? When did he die? I didn't notice. |
| it was amusing seeing sanetoshi in the middle of people like he doesn't exist talking his mind out himari seems really hard to die xD that commercial was too creepy =_= about the fate spell, if it really was only written in the diary it means it may be possible to use it if someone knows it, or discover it again it felt a bit ironic all sanetoshi and kanba did was only to eliminate a written copy of the spell but not the spell itself |
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Snowley said: Actually, I assume he is. The amount of blood spilling from his body in ep.22 didn't really shine with life compatibility, you know... It's true that No.1 didn't even get a tiny bit transparent back then, unlike No.3 or Esmeralda, for example. And it's also true that the brothers are really something to survive things like getting hit by a car etc... but that's probably another reason which makes me question the validity of their lifes...Kanba is also on that train, so he's dead too? When did he die? I didn't notice. |
soulelle said: Snowley said: Actually, I assume he is. The amount of blood spilling from his body in ep.22 didn't really shine with life compatibility, you know... It's true that No.1 didn't even get a tiny bit transparent back then, unlike No.3 or Esmeralda, for example. And it's also true that the brothers are really something to survive things like getting hit by a car etc... but that's probably another reason which makes me question the validity of their lifes...Kanba is also on that train, so he's dead too? When did he die? I didn't notice. Wow, I think you read too much into it. Dying from hand wound would be pretty lame death for an anime character, and Shoma getting hit by a car was more like a device to show that a)he's a good person and kinda cares for Ringo b)to provide the hospital scene with Kanba. Also, Natsume hit people with candy-like bullets simmilar to Kanba's and shot person turned zombie, but not dead. So my opinion is that he really did something to Shoma, but it wasn't killing him. Of course I can't say you're wrong, it's Penguindrum, so anything's possible, right? |
| Wow! Intense and completely gobsmacking! Or in Sanetoshi's words: Wasn't it electrifying? This Anime is a masterpiece! I'm not emotionally prepared for the last episode :S But what the hell was with that commercial in between?Weeeeird... Can someone explain this to me? xDD |
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lucidwolfe said: Orulyon said: perhaps this will turn into shounen-ai and Kanba will realize that the one he really loved was Shouma XP kidding. this. I replayed that hug at least 3 times xD Same. My guilty pleasure of the ep. |
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| Ringo read that diary over and over again. She might be able to figure it out as by now she must have memorised it all. |
| -sigh- What really pissed me off in this episode was not Kanba shooting Shouma or burning the diary....yeah that was really cruel of him but the thing that got me was how he seems to want to sacrifise everything for Himari but when his real sister was dying...wait when she did die his reactions were....well kind of emotionless for me and then he just turned his back to her not even looking back a single time.Yes, I get that he loves Himari but wasn't family also important?Yes, he did protect her in the last episode but this scene was...I don't know he didn't beg Sanetoshi to save her at all. In fact, they used her as a guinea pig for Sanetoshi to proove he can keep his part of the deal. |
| I honestly think Kanba is trolling Satenoshi and this a plan to get rid of him for how he tricked thier parents. Im also gonna say that Ringo has become the diary and she is gonna use it next episode. |
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"soulelle" said: Shouma is already dead. Otherwise he would be unable to ride the train of fate, the train which delivers to the destination of fate. Consider the Galaxy Express from the Night on the Galactic Railroad reference. The trip of Giovanni and Campanella. Not necessarily. Giovanni boarded the train in the Night on the Galactic Railroad, but he was not dead. After all, he returned to his home-town. Besides, it was hinted that Giovanni didn't die, he was the only one with a special ticket. "Raven_Shinobi" said: As much as Kanba might hate Shouma's goody-two-shoes act, I don't think he has it in him to kill the boy that he had grown up with and regarded as a brother for the past decade I agree with you that Kanba probably didn't kill Shouma. The moment when Kanba shoots Shouma reminded me of the moment when Anthy stabs Utena in the back. |
Lain666Dec 16, 2011 10:52 AM
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| Next week cannot come fast enough. |
Redfoxoffire said: Next week cannot come fast enough. Seriously... and I cannot wait to see what happens when the "penguin hats" finally are united! FABULOUS MAX. |
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| this episode.. PERFECT |
| Only one left... ;w; |
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| Is it next week yet? Awesome as always. One thing though - I fucking hate the fake-out deaths in this series. They drive me batty every time. Oh, and I still have faith in Kanba. Just gonna be over here rooting for Himari x Kanba, Shouma x Himari, and family ending.. what the fuck has this show done to me. I don't even know what I want. |
| Words don't come to mind That whole episode was just ... I can't think of a proper word |
VioLink said: I honestly think Kanba is trolling Satenoshi and this a plan to get rid of him for how he tricked thier parents. Im also gonna say that Ringo has become the diary and she is gonna use it next episode. Idem |
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| The reason why I even got an account here is because I enjoyed reading the comments for this anime. There's so many possibilities even this late in the game. o: o: Anyways. I know it's random, but I think Momoka will materialize when the hats are reunited. (I hope). I bet she'll be like hella pretty. x3 I'm excited for that.. If it happens. I hated Shouma x Himari but the scene was too romantic to ignore. Himari really did have feelings for him, so it's sweet. However, it's gotta be Ringo x Shouma for me. I still find it weird that Sanetoshi (sp?) is in love with Momoka. I mean, I get why but..She's a child? Well maybe the PoC is still another entity? Like how the bunny boys are different from Sanetoshi? I dunno... I also think that Kan has something under his sleeve. He's always so sneaky. Even so, he shouldn't get off scott free for hurting all these people, even Ringo. T_T I might forgive him on his sexy voice alone. Maybe there really is a reset button, but it'll come at the cost of something important and special. Someone might die or fated ones may never meet. We'll see. Random, but I found Natsume's maid/friend crying for her to be so sweet. I was starting to believe that she was truly alone. Ringo and Natsume are the best characters really. Their self sacrifices weren't selfish like Himari's (accepting death knowing that Kan would be bitter and take it out on the world.) |
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