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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I found the past of Aki/Kyouhei very interesting while sad and full of jealousy. OK I had a lot of trouble passing this episode hence why I left a short general post. I got 3 rages crying that dried me out and flowed out like a river as well as needing to take pauses. I raged so bad that I screamed out like you scream in forests over 5 times. That’s how good the directing was to come out as emotional with a sensible person such as myself. Here is journey times 2 of this episode being the best so far. Rage 1 The unfolding of Chihaya being a bitch. At first I really liked seeing Chihaya with her smile and that angry face she made. Chihaya was very passionate about her teachings in piano and has a splendid face there. Until shit started to unfold with Atsushi in the spoiler Then shit happened and Chihaya was shocked by it. I was too, I mean hey, nice virgin young teachers could never do sex with a guy randomly like that, right? Guess I was totally fucking wrong in the spoiler Second Rage! The rape of Aki! If you noticed Aki was kind of like Haruka in Yosuga no Sora when being raped by Chihaya. This was the worst one because I really liked in the following spoiler Below is why I think she raped him. According to the following spoiler All of this is all too bad for Chihaya as she got found out and most of all had to quit. Rage 3 the death of Chihaya! R.I.P. dear slutty teacher at least I have respect for you in saving Aki.  Yeah I cried a lot there and in the spoiler Of course Atsushi had to do something stupid and scare off the teacher badly. Worst of all IMO he fucking killed Nono the dog! Bastard asshole! When Aki came to save Chihaya, I wonder if they ganged raped her in the spoiler  And from the looks of spoiler In thee end! It was Kyouhei come with to the dark side (I now also go with Aki to the dark side in support of his reasoning) according to the Aki’s face in the spoiler while the Kyouhei’s rage was nice. There is girl who cries for him and I assume she loves Aki and there is also Hibino who cries also. Totally crazy episode. Magnificently directed and I bet you don’t know all the twist in all this? Kyouhei was the the one who really loved Chihaya most. If I have the time I can stress out 5 flag points. Flag points,
So did anyone have similar emotions to all this? This was once again a good background info episode. The directing of this series is almost on par with Sacred Seven IMO. That is really impressive for me as good directing always leads to a more pleasant experience. I will leave it at that. Too much rage and too many tears with major WTF surprises. |
Yumekichi11Aug 17, 2011 12:09 AM
| So, everyone in this show has the same set of faces, apparently. And the animation quality is dropping even more, lately. There, happy? And here, I just have to highlight these two, because Aki's faces are so full of win that it would be a crime not to mention them.. And speaking of Aki, him being all happy playing with the dog was really creepy. Anyway, with this many episodes passing already, they're starting to run out of time to fit all of my brilliant plot prediction from ep3-4 into the last 6 episodes. ಠ_ಠ |
OosranAug 16, 2011 9:28 PM
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Oosran said: So, everyone in this show has the same set of faces, apparently. And the animation quality is dropping even more, lately. And here, I just have to highlight these two, because Aki's faces are so full of win that it would be a crime not to mention them.. And speaking of Aki, him being all happy playing with the dog was really creepy. Anyway, with this many episodes passing already, they're starting to run out of time to fit all of my brilliant plot prediction from ep3-4 into the last 6 episodes. ಠ_ಠ Sadly I said this from the start they are going to do the same thing C did last season with pushing so much plot needed for 5 episodes into the final 2/3. |
| I've expected too much from the background story. Sort of disappointed. |
| I think it would be enough of this ending in 5 episodes, come on there isn't so much of a plot in this anime. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| I was expecting this backstory, and I would say it does not fall short of my expectations, as I never expected much special out of it. Still, I feel that it is short and needs to be flushed out, for eg, the relationship between Aki, kyouhei and the poor woman who had to show up for one ep and perished. |
We are the United. Even in defeat we stand united. |
| I honestly liked the back story more then the actual series itself |
| If your going to complain that Yu-Gi-Oh! Mangas are on the top NY times manga best sellers, you must not realize how popular Card games are(as well as the fact that you get a free card). |
| Backstory was good, quality of animation was shity in some scenes. But the question is are they actually going deliver anymore plot in the 5 episodes they have left? My guess is no, it's C all over again so maybe a second season |
| animation is getting bad indeed, loooooool. Sensei was such a perv XP really i felt heart broken for the dog T_T anyway, i loved the episode. And Aki Acellerator just won a place on my favs, he is way better than the useless two other "seki"protagonists, Utau and Kyohei. I hope to see Kyohei returning to be a seki, or, the show will be senseless... Best ep till now, at least to me. |
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| Episode had a more serious tone since it was mostly a flashback. Even so, Utao still managed to make a few funny faces during the flashback. |
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| I didn't really see a connection between "sensei" and Kyohei, at least not enough for anything more than a boyish crush on an older woman. The hints from previous episodes made it seem as if Kyohei and the Sensei may have had a more intimate relationship, but it wasn't Kyohei who got into that cookie jar. Sensei was indeed a very immoral person; sleeps with a student's father and then sleeps with a 15(?) year old boy because of his eyes reminded her of that student... Wow. |
| "Seize the time, Meribor - live now! Make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again." - Captain Jean-Luc Picard. |
| Daaamn, that village is full of assholes. So seki's can whatever they want without consequences? Bullshit, if someone sexually harasses someone else they should be punished. I like Sensei, she was strong will. And then BANG! She gets it on with Aki. And harhar! Aki isn't a bad guy afterall! Sure he went completely berserk but he was provoked so it ain't his fault. |
Oosran said: And the animation quality is dropping even more, lately. Huh? The animation in this episode was like, x100 times better than in the previous ones. I was really surprised myself to see such a sudden change from a pretty average animation to almost top notch for a TV series. And your screenshots actually tell nothing about the animation quality. |
seishi-samaAug 16, 2011 2:33 PM
| I notice the quality drop too. Maybe Brain's Base is giving more to Penguindrum than this, which is a shame. Archie74 said: I didn't really see a connection between "sensei" and Kyohei, at least not enough for anything more than a boyish crush on an older woman. The hints from previous episodes made it seem as if Kyohei and the Sensei may have had a more intimate relationship, but it wasn't Kyohei who got into that cookie jar. Sensei was indeed a very immoral person; sleeps with a student's father and then sleeps with a 15(?) year old boy because of his eyes reminded her of that student... Wow. Dude, if a teacher is hot who wouldn't say no? Sanguis said: Daaamn, that village is full of assholes. So seki's can whatever they want without consequences? Bullshit, if someone sexually harasses someone else they should be punished. I like Sensei, she was strong will. And then BANG! She gets it on with Aki. And harhar! Aki isn't a bad guy afterall! Sure he went completely berserk but he was provoked so it ain't his fault. This is what happens in really small towns. In towns and villages like these, privacy is a no no, especially when it's run by a ruling class who can do whatever they want. Look at most Puritanical towns in America, or Russian villages under Stalin. you'll always be known by everyone for doing something good or bad and you have to suck up to the rulers. |
Taufiq91Aug 16, 2011 2:28 PM
Taufiq91 said: Russian villages under Stalin. This made me lol. You know, in russian villages "under Stalin" people often didn't know who Stalin was. |
seishi-sama said: Taufiq91 said: Russian villages under Stalin. This made me lol. You know, in russian villages "under Stalin" people often didn't know who Stalin was. But they still have "People's police" who still monitors small villages and sends those villagers to Gulags if they say anything bad about Russia. Or, in a modern example: north Korean villages under Kim Jong-Il and/or Evangelical backwoods towns in the Deep South which believes that people like Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry should be president for being "true Christians" |
Taufiq91 said: seishi-sama said: Taufiq91 said: Russian villages under Stalin. This made me lol. You know, in russian villages "under Stalin" people often didn't know who Stalin was. But they still have "People's police" who still monitors small villages and sends those villagers to Gulags if they say anything bad about Russia. lol x9000. Just who told you that, really? Really, what police, what Gulags, in rural Russian villages some people didn't (and some still don't) even know what year or what day it is, and never even heard the words "government", "president" or whatever. And yes, just in case, I AM Russian. ;) |
seishi-sama said: Taufiq91 said: seishi-sama said: Taufiq91 said: Russian villages under Stalin. This made me lol. You know, in russian villages "under Stalin" people often didn't know who Stalin was. But they still have "People's police" who still monitors small villages and sends those villagers to Gulags if they say anything bad about Russia. lol x9000. Just who told you that, really? Really, what police, what Gulags, in rural Russian villages some people didn't (and some still don't) even know what year or what day it is, and never even heard the words "government", "president" or whatever. And yes, just in case, I AM Russian. ;) You got a point there. Russia is so big that i think a communication disconnect is present in some towns. But again, i got my info from books about Stalinist Russia written by British authors and they say these things. But like i've said, North Korea does practise this where the party and the soldiers are the ruling class and if you oppose anything they do then you will be sent to the gulag. |
| That village is so screwed up. Also, poor Kyohei when he loved the teacher before Aki even gave a crap and the teacher could tell but she goes and sleeps with Aki. |
| Wow.. I didn't know this teacher they were so obsessed over was such a hoe. She obviously couldn't care less about Kyohei in the first place, she slept with his good friend, (at the time they were friends). |
Sanguis said: Daaamn, that village is full of assholes. So seki's can whatever they want without consequences? Bullshit, if someone sexually harasses someone else they should be punished. I like Sensei, she was strong will. And then BANG! She gets it on with Aki. And harhar! Aki isn't a bad guy afterall! Sure he went completely berserk but he was provoked so it ain't his fault. I've watched shows about feudal Japan. It was commonplace for Shogun/Samurai to have blatant authority to do as they choose and the peasants had to be obedient to their mood swings. It wasn't that uncommon for peasants to be sliced to death for the littlest of offenses. To me Seki of the Kuga and Hyuga clans are representations of Shoguns in feudal Japanese society in regards to class structure. Second, Notice the song Kukuri played when Kyohei was it's Seki? sound familiar? It sounded the same as when Kukuri desperately countered Kirio's Kakashi. Aki was able to regain control of his old Kakashi. Maybe Kyohei is able to do the same under similar circumstances. another possible thought...... prismheart said: That village is so screwed up. Also, poor Kyohei when he loved the teacher before Aki even gave a crap and the teacher could tell but she goes and sleeps with Aki. Actually Aki did like the teacher just as much and early on as Kyohei did. He was just being a total male tsundere about it. It was one of the reasons Aki cared for the dog as the Sensei told him to do. Kyohei even said as much. I got the sense the the writers felt Aki and Sensei were more suited for each other due to them both being shunned and mistreated. It was what draw them together. Both seem to be tragic figures in this anime. |
CirrisAug 16, 2011 8:15 PM
| Wow, Kamisama Dolls got scandalous this week! I mean, love rectangles with teacher?! And she wasn’t even that pretty. Plus, she was kinda being a slut. I guess since it’s a small village, they’ll go after any woman decent looking. Anyways, we seen this in many stories, anime or not. It’s called love, and it makes people go nuts! When I watched the first episode of Kamisama Dolls, I felt how intense Aki and Kyohei’s rivalry was. And I only thought of two things: they are secretly yaoi for each other, or they have the same love interest. And what do you know, I was right! The fujoshi in me kinda wished it went yaoi, but this is good too! I love the Aki being evil and murderous. I love bad guys <3 |
Cirris said: Dude.....please use spoiler tags. |
| I thought she was a good character, but then she had sex with Aki. That scene, it just makes feel feel... I don't know the correct word, but I guess it something like disgusted. |
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Cirris said: prismheart said: That village is so screwed up. Also, poor Kyohei when he loved the teacher before Aki even gave a crap and the teacher could tell but she goes and sleeps with Aki. Actually Aki did like the teacher just as much and early on as Kyohei did. He was just being a total male tsundere about it. It was one of the reasons Aki cared for the dog as the Sensei told him to do. Kyohei even said as much. I got the sense the the writers felt Aki and Sensei were more suited for each other due to them both being shunned and mistreated. It was what draw them together. Both seem to be tragic figures in this anime. True, I was wrong. The teacher did have a kind of tragic background but it was sort of brought upon herself when she sleep with the student's father. I felt bad for how she got treated though just because everyone makes a mistake... then she slept with Aki and I sort of gave it some more thought. Now I'm really not sure to make of her character. |
| hmm didn't expect this to get this graphic but it was nice. also nice not having annoying Utao around. how was the teacher a slut? 2 men in the course of a few years? granted neither were good choices and cost her her job but that's her choice. a slut probably would have given in to that asshole who was sexually harassing her. so yeah the village is full of intolerant assholes no wonder Kyohei left. so they both liked the teacher, but I was kinda surprised the teacher ended up sexing Aki right away, that was asking to get fired. still she should have left sooner with that asshole harassing her. so yeah Aki goes crazy after she's raped (sure looked like it) and murdered. I'm with Aki on this one, but he kinda went overboard killing everybody and not just the stepbrother. why does Kyohei hate him so much though? stealing the girl he liked? didn't seem he even knew, or the fact he killed those stupid villagers? he said he realized Aki didn't kill her. |
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| I was disappointed that kyohei didn't get with the teacher.. And damn sensei she's hot and all but first a students father and then aki because of his eyes which she believes she can get some sort of weird revenge on the student? If I was aki I would of banged her 2 don't get me wrong, but her reasons for it were ridiculous to say the least. |
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KuroDubZero said: Cirris said: Dude.....please use spoiler tags. It's not really a spoiler. It's my assumption based on scenes from episode 1 beginning, the episode 3 mental dialogue between Kyohei and Aki, and possible outcomes after this episode. Though someone proved my theory is wrong on another forum. He spoiled my assumptions using the manga chapters. |
| ...bitch sensei is dead. T_T finally understood the background. 4/5, 8/5 |
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Cirris said: KuroDubZero said: Cirris said: Dude.....please use spoiler tags. It's not really a spoiler. It's my assumption based on scenes from episode 1 beginning, the episode 3 mental dialogue between Kyohei and Aki, and possible outcomes after this episode. That sounds like a pretty accurate assumption, so much that I thought it was a actual spoiler lol. |
KuroDubZeroAug 16, 2011 9:02 PM
| :*( |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| The teacher definitely could've used some better judgement when it came to her personal life. Still, with all the crap she had to deal with in the village and being kinda isolated, you can see how that happened. And I can't say I was upset when Aki lost it there. I wasn't really surprised, but I'm still very disappointed in Kyohei. He was the one person that could've opposed the meathead (at that time still potential) rapist, but didn't. Instead he left the woman he liked to fend for herself. Stupid. Really stupid. |
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| That teacher doesn't deserve all that crap from the villagers. |
| Wow, that sensei was a slut. |
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| But what I want to know is why Aki was no longer a seki from the start of the flashback. |
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zeroryoko1974 said: No it was the father's eyes that she slept with and had sex.So let me get this straight.... The teacher slept with Aki because his eyes reminded her of the kid who got run over after freaking out at her sleeping with his dad? Orulyon said: Yeah me too, now he I am totally with him. Fuck the world kind of thinking.anyway, i loved the episode. And Aki Acellerator just won a place on my favs, Orulyon said: You should know this episode opened the possibility that Kyouhei can take control of Kukuri like Aki took control back of his kakashi.I hope to see Kyohei returning to be a seki, or, the show will be senseless... Archie74 said: Actually he loved her. I pointed 5 flags, more than enough for love. I just did not have time to write it out. Too much rage. It was like ten folded due to good directing much like Clannad's directing strangely.I didn't really see a connection between "sensei" and Kyohei, at least not enough for anything more than a boyish crush on an older woman. The hints from previous episodes made it seem as if Kyohei and the Sensei may have had a more intimate relationship, but it wasn't Kyohei who got into that cookie jar. Archie74 said: It was totally illegal but since it was a village with no police it was much more relaxed. In Tokyo she would get arrested.Sensei was indeed a very immoral person; sleeps with a student's father and then sleeps with a 15(?) year old boy because of his eyes reminded her of that student... Wow. Cirris said: Was it like that? Really? I did not think like that, I though that kakashi got revived through a sheer sudden event. It may now be more logical because that kakashi is the most powerful one thus he would be able to ressurect.another possible thought...... prismheart said: Actually Aki did like the teacher just as much and early on as Kyohei did. He was just being a total male tsundere about it. It was one of the reasons Aki cared for the dog as the Sensei told him to do. Kyohei even said as much.Oh really? I did not notice that, he sure did not show nothing of it. Oh well, I though it was rape personally, he did not show jack during the sex session moreover he reminded me of Haruka's expression from Yosuga No Sora so that did not help. Kyouhei was much more honest to express his love.That village is so screwed up. Also, poor Kyohei when he loved the teacher before Aki even gave a crap and the teacher could tell but she goes and sleeps with Aki. Cirris said: Well Aki was not mistreated but being seen as someone of not the family blood and himself having lonely feelings.I got the sense the the writers felt Aki and Sensei were more suited for each other due to them both being shunned and mistreated. It was what draw them together. Both seem to be tragic figures in this anime. _Neeka said: Yes, at the very least perverted pigs like that guy. Family power and now authority powers like the police make things harder.Wow, Kamisama Dolls got scandalous this week! I mean, love rectangles with teacher?! And she wasn’t even that pretty. Plus, she was kinda being a slut. I guess since it’s a small village, they’ll go after any woman decent looking. |
Yumekichi11Aug 17, 2011 12:30 AM
| very good episode. it made up for last weeks rather boring ep. |
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elior1 said: Because the village was full of assholes and being a Seki was the only thing tying him to the village, so he gave that up and left.even after see the backround i dont understend so can somone explain me why Kyohei quit be a seki? |
| Bitch Bitch Bitch Bitch not only you seduced Aki, making Kyohei fall in love with you, sleep with your student's dad, you also fucking let yourself get raped! and then get killed. You committed beyond triple crime *your crimes totally blows my mind @_@ What an episode @_@ |
XxshizxX said: Bitch Bitch Bitch Bitch not only you seduced Aki, making Kyohei fall in love with you, sleep with your student's dad, you also fucking let yourself get raped! and then get killed. You committed beyond triple crime *your crimes totally blows my mind @_@ What an episode @_@ How is getting raped HER fault? o_O |
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| WOW, can tell people have really conservative views on what defines a slut. We saw her sleep with only two guys. If the genders reversed and the teacher was a guy, would you have been calling him a slut. |
mystik said: hmm didn't expect this to get this graphic but it was nice. also nice not having annoying Utao around. how was the teacher a slut? 2 men in the course of a few years? granted neither were good choices and cost her her job but that's her choice. a slut probably would have given in to that asshole who was sexually harassing her. so yeah the village is full of intolerant assholes no wonder Kyohei left. so they both liked the teacher, but I was kinda surprised the teacher ended up sexing Aki right away, that was asking to get fired. still she should have left sooner with that asshole harassing her. so yeah Aki goes crazy after she's raped (sure looked like it) and murdered. I'm with Aki on this one, but he kinda went overboard killing everybody and not just the stepbrother. why does Kyohei hate him so much though? stealing the girl he liked? didn't seem he even knew, or the fact he killed those stupid villagers? he said he realized Aki didn't kill her. Wow. Nice post. u took the words out of my mouth. the only thing i have to say, is, Kyohei was the only friend besides the dog and the teacher to Aki, but he was not even his best friend and never tried to be. He could have done a lot to help the teacher in the beggining, and also Aki. But no. He was a seki, did nothing at all. No wonder the teacher started to feel attracted to Aki since he was the only one who actually did something to help her, and it was the only one who could understand how it feels to be mistreated and excluded. Ok this might sound weird, but, although its not excuse for Aki to kill all those villagers, his stepbrother was asking for it fuck, he deserved it, and it was due to his stepbrother and not Aki, that everyone ended up being murdered there. Wrong time, wrong place. Besides, Aki let himself be arrested for several years, which is a way to atone somehow for what he did, he went to jail (ok, not time enough, but fuck, the guy suffered so much since his childhood and adolescence, i think he deserves a second chance). _Neeka said: The fujoshi in me kinda wished it went yaoi, but this is good too! I love the Aki being evil and murderous. I love bad guys <3 I would ship Aki x Kyohei, but Kyohei is so...useless?(no offense to the fans, kay) I prefer Aki with the megane girl now;D ArcticMech said: And I can't say I was upset when Aki lost it there. I wasn't really surprised, but I'm still very disappointed in Kyohei. He was the one person that could've opposed the meathead (at that time still potential) rapist, but didn't. Instead he left the woman he liked to fend for herself. Stupid. Really stupid. This!:) 0_raitei_0 said: The backstory was pretty predictable.I don't get why Kyohei got so angry when Aki mentioned Sensei in one of the earlier episodes? Sensei slept with Aki coz his eyes reminded her of the eyes which that boy made when he saw his dad with her.....lol.Worst excuse ever made to sleep with someone. Kyohei got angry, because he is an emo that thinks he lost his most beloved person, when the truth is, it was Aki who lost everything, and it was Aki who was in a real relationship with sensei, while Kyohei was all platonic. He didnt even kept his word to her, he didnt stay friends with Aki, even knowing that it was not Aki who kill sensei. Visiting to jail and listening to Aki´s version...did he ever did that? What a great friend he is. LOL the teenage Aki was cute hot, and with a potential tsundere side. She loved it me too and made that horrible excuse. Well, gotta say its more original than the plain "i wanna sleep with you" the end. LOLOLO As for the teacher, i do not think she is slut. If she was a man everyone would be "hey, that was so awesome". And she was raped, so the ones who think its an enjoyable experience and that it was her fault , should go think twice and think about the ridiculous things that are saying. spare us with those comments, its because of people like you that the world is a mess. |
OrulyonAug 17, 2011 4:25 AM
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