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| Wow, I've seen good endings, but this one is simply amazing. |
| Ohh,that was an amazing ending to an amazing anime. 5/5 |
| "What is Proxy?" the perfect question to finish the show^_^ loved every minute of it :) 8/10 from me Btw, did Real-2 melt, disappear, die or just fly away at the end? i couldn't tell |
  "What happens when we die?" I know that the ones who love us will miss us. |
| She got burnt by the sun, didn't she? I presume that means she perished |
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| The proxies couldn't survive under the real sun so they all burnt up when the rays hit them. |
| Seems just like the ancient myth about daedalus and icarus,when you think about it. And what concerns the final scene - it was pure awesome. "I am Ergo Proxy. The Proxy of death." *shining blue eyes* Haven't seen such a cool ending in ages. |
| Great ending, it managed to tie up all the loose ends perfectly. It's too bad I'm still confused as hell about a great many things. Nothing a little wiki-ing won't fix. |
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| Wow. o.o I have a couple of new favs now. Freaking amazing ending. So what now, humans wage war on each other or some other things or something? O.o Episode easily gets a 5/5 from me. I'm kind of unsure whether to give it an 8/10 or a 9/10... |
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WinterNightsFall said: Wow. o.o I have a couple of new favs now. Freaking amazing ending. So what now, humans wage war on each other or some other things or something? O.o Episode easily gets a 5/5 from me. I'm kind of unsure whether to give it an 8/10 or a 9/10... Well, rebelling against the creators was all Proxy One's idea. I doubt Vincent has a grudge against them like he does so maybe they'll just live together on the newly restored planet. :/ Give it a 9! Give it a 9! |
Corrupt_Id said: WinterNightsFall said: Wow. o.o I have a couple of new favs now. Freaking amazing ending. So what now, humans wage war on each other or some other things or something? O.o Episode easily gets a 5/5 from me. I'm kind of unsure whether to give it an 8/10 or a 9/10... Well, rebelling against the creators was all Proxy One's idea. I doubt Vincent has a grudge against them like he does so maybe they'll just live together on the newly restored planet. :/ Give it a 9! Give it a 9! i dunno, coz i kinda get the aura of vincent going to kill the newcomers, coz of his last lines, espacially the "Proxy of Death" need some explanation, help me ^^, also im giving this anime 10, i like this episode, it connects everything that happens in the past epis also is there a manga of this? |
tounoyaboysAug 27, 2008 7:14 AM
Corrupt_Id said: From what I understand, Ergo/Vincent takes on One's role in order to 'face reality.' Which makes sense, because that's what One created Vincent to do. There's no explanation as to what exactly's going to happen, but it's implied that it'll be some kind of revenge. Perhaps an all-out slaughter, but that'd be kind of shallow and excessive, not to mention hard to do.WinterNightsFall said: Wow. o.o I have a couple of new favs now. Freaking amazing ending. So what now, humans wage war on each other or some other things or something? O.o Episode easily gets a 5/5 from me. I'm kind of unsure whether to give it an 8/10 or a 9/10... Well, rebelling against the creators was all Proxy One's idea. I doubt Vincent has a grudge against them like he does so maybe they'll just live together on the newly restored planet. :/ Give it a 9! Give it a 9! Personally I wouldn't mind some kind of after-story; maybe an OVA or sequel with different main characters, but a direct sequal would be guaranteed to fail miserably. BTW, the ending reminded me of ending of The Matrix for some reason. misaseh098 said: Yes, but it's a spinoff called "Centzon Hitchers & Undertaker." I haven't found it anywhere, so I can't give any opinion other than 'sounds lame.'also is there a manga of this? |
JadeMatrixSep 7, 2008 10:29 AM
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| Pretty good ending, Vincent wins! And lil Pino scores some updates :D |
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| The animation of this show was great (except the last few eps where people looked 'wrong') and I loved the music, especially Radiohead! :D But really... I just can't agree with this being a good ending OR an anime that made any sense... It was just way to "I need to be on acid" to understand. I enjoyed watching it for a while, but they way the characters interacted made no sense and was too inconsistent. People were too... well "flip-floppy" and the "philosophical" conversations between Vincent and the other proxies boiled down in the end to "truth" or "truth." I understand the point was that truth is what you make it, but... I just didn't get that from the script. I was just not impressed with the story and philosophy, it seemed like the classic "hey, I'm the director and I want to fuck with people so much that they think this is good even though it lacks real substance or congruency." In any case... I loved Pino! ^_^ |
Archon231 said: The animation of this show was great (except the last few eps where people looked 'wrong') and I loved the music, especially Radiohead! :D But really... I just can't agree with this being a good ending OR an anime that made any sense... It was just way to "I need to be on acid" to understand. I enjoyed watching it for a while, but they way the characters interacted made no sense and was too inconsistent. People were too... well "flip-floppy" and the "philosophical" conversations between Vincent and the other proxies boiled down in the end to "truth" or "truth." I understand the point was that truth is what you make it, but... I just didn't get that from the script. I was just not impressed with the story and philosophy, it seemed like the classic "hey, I'm the director and I want to fuck with people so much that they think this is good even though it lacks real substance or congruency." In any case... I loved Pino! ^_^ I can't agree with your point about this anime lacking real substance. If you read some books about existentialist ideas and philosophy then you'll realize that this anime not only is based on a very vast and complete knowledge of the post modern and existentialism schools but also tries to express director's/writer's answers to very fundamental questions about the concept of "God" , "freedom" and "morals". However, whether one likes such anime with philosophical themes is totally up to the person. You may dislike it or not understand it but that doesn't mean it's lacking substance or congruency, in my opinion. Overall I give this anime a 9.5/10. |
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| Excellent anime. It made me think a lot about some things that always round in my head. I love the music and the charisma of some characters. Pino is adorable and the opening now is one of my favorites. The ending was good but I expected a little more. 9/10 |
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| cool episode XD love the ending. no wonder y it got hi grades |
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| Such a strange story. The ending episodes were amazing, and I love the artwork. The story themes are so well written in that references just pop, and make sense. I wish Japanese was my first language, so I could understand more of the word play. As far as plot goes, I felt that half the episodes were detracting from the epicness of it. I was starting to be disappointed with it all, and then the ending was just wow. |
| I have mix feeling about the ending but it was enjoyable 4/5 . |
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| Nice episode, I was prepared for a little more shocking ending though. Overall loved the series. 9/10 |
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| The ending made me smile widely. This is how the Death Note series should end - with Yagami's evil smile. |
| Why does Vincent say at the end " I am Ergo Proxy, the agent of death" He's about to go medieval on the ships entering the atmosphere? Best Show of '06 |
XDPD7 said: Why does Vincent say at the end " I am Ergo Proxy, the agent of death" He's about to go medieval on the ships entering the atmosphere? Best Show of '06 That was my interpretation, although it's also possible he said it only as a vehicle to say the title in the last line of the series. |
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spazure said: XDPD7 said: Why does Vincent say at the end " I am Ergo Proxy, the agent of death" He's about to go medieval on the ships entering the atmosphere? Best Show of '06 That was my interpretation, although it's also possible he said it only as a vehicle to say the title in the last line of the series. I thought of it as more of a [atlest in part] hes come to peace with his identity, which is what he origionally set out to do. But it also does seem like he is angered at the creators. |
chrisosaurusApr 26, 2009 8:14 PM
| Maybe beacuse he's made (of awesome ;p) ekhem by One, he improved Proxy so he's not sensitive for the sun. |
| I liked the ending a lot though I was equally confused too! Maybe is it because I've to re-watch it again or is the English dubbed version that I saw was lacking in some key elements which got lost in translation? What where the three aircraft (kinda reminded me of Starwars) in the background of Ergo Proxy when he muttered "I am Ergo Proxy, I am the agent of death" doing? They were not from Romdo I suppose, where they from Ergo Proxy's creators? |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| Just... wow. AWESOME ending, specially because of Pino :D But the Death Proxy stuff didn't make sense. I thought he would meet with Lil, they'd fuck hard and live happily after, but no what, he's gonna be a dick and destroy the remaining humans? Still a very good, even though weird anime. |
| Wow... what an amazing ending. This was a very open ending. "I am Ergo Proxy, The agent of death" and "Now the true battle shall begin" suggests that Vincent will battle against the creators once they arrive. I really hope for a second season or at least an ova. Definitely one of my favourite anime, it fucked with my mind a lot but it was overall an awesome 'acid' trip ^^ 5/5 and 10/10 |
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TheOwnag3 said: Wow... what an amazing ending. This was a very open ending. "I am Ergo Proxy, The agent of death" and "Now the true battle shall begin" suggests that Vincent will battle against the creators once they arrive. I really hope for a second season or at least an ova. Definitely one of my favourite anime, it fucked with my mind a lot but it was overall an awesome 'acid' trip ^^ 5/5 and 10/10 Would Vincent really battle or wage war against the Creators (Human race)? Since the humans created Proxies, I bet they'd have developed ways to exterminate them too. I do share your view that a second season or at least an OVA should be made. I'm dying to know the fates of Pino and Re-l after Romdo's destruction. These characters are just too awesome not to be heard from again. The endiong left me wanting more! Yup, an awesome acid trip it is but it was worth the headache! LOL |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| A lot of the scenes from that link were not from the anime series. What gives? Now I'm very confused! New for me: 1. A new scene of Vincent injecting/checking an infected AutoRiev for the Cogito virus, this time with Re-l and Iggy watching him work. 2. First Lab scene of Monad Proxy (Episode 1), Daedalus looks quite older and taller in this scene, plus Raul Creed is there with him! 3. Re-l is ogling a rectangular pendant instead of the Proxy pendant (never saw that before). 4. The Proxy that went inside Re-l's bathroom in Episode 1 is not wearing the Proxy mask and looks more like Steve Buscemi! 5. A different setting for Donov Mayer and the Collective (not the dark hall like area), the Collective appear differently and not the Michaelangelo's statues from the Medici Chapel tomb!It also appears that Donov Mayer can speak, he's also without his entourage. May I also add that a scene from the last part of that video where they were outside Romdo (Vince is with Pino and Hoody sitting by the lakeside) is very beautifully made. The details are just so brilliant, from the sky, rocks, the water, the characters and even their breath steaming from the cold weather is depicted very accurately! Is this from a director's cut DVD or was this the initial, should I say raw or promotional episode? Damn, the animation is way cooler than anything I've seen from the 23 episode series! anciah said: ok. now I am curious ... or maybe even more confused :D sooo ... humans created Proxies ? they are creators ? so, who are people in Romdo ? where they only "puppets" ? Proxies are... "hands of god" (or whatever they were called) ... argh ! can't understand :( anyway ... GREAT ANIME ! GREAT ENDING ! and those blue eyes *.* ! WONDERFUL ! EDIT: look what I found: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/video/422/ sooo ... this anime was changed a bit or what ???? |
LeibstandarteJun 2, 2009 4:05 AM
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| ...>_> 10/10 re-watch value: high yeah it was alright, liked it better than most of the series i've watched lately. I'm not a big fan of ignorance, so I'm gonna have to re-watch this series sometime in the future or at least research it. he doesn't seem very friendly here. |
anciah said: EDIT: look what I found: [url=http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/video/422/]http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/video/422/ sooo ... this anime was changed a bit or what ???? pretty much it looks like an alternative version of the anime. however i could not find any information on whether there even exists another version. my guesses are that they either gave up on this version. or (looking at the graphics in this trailer) a yet-to-be released and announced version. if the latter is right then all there really is to do is just wait. EDIT: [url]http://www.ergoproxy.com/news/index.html[url] news from the official page 2006.03.29 PVのニューバージョン（ショート・ロング）を公開！ pv: promotional video. i believe the rest means new release. |
enkilJun 4, 2009 7:51 PM
| The ending was good; but what bothered me about this series was the fact that some episodes did absolutely nothing to further the plot, and should've been taken out. Episode 14 - 2 Lils + 2 Vincents Episode 15 - The Quiz Show episode Episode 19 - The Disneyworld episode Episode 20 - The multiple personality episode The first 12 episodes were so good. Unfortunately, the above episodes ruined the second half for me. |
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| To the people who think this series was just the director trying to mess with people and had no substance, well, I would be respectful and say "I disagree" instead of "You're wrong," but... no, you're wrong. I'm talking mostly about Archon's post. And I loved those episodes that bjt hated. The Quiz episode definitely furthered the plot, revealing a lot of secrets to us, and the other ones were more self-contained stories yes, but they were really well-told well-written stories. I am still not 100% clear on most of the existential elements of the story after finishing, but I got most of it, and I am very happy. This was an excellent, excellent show. I'm going to give it a 9/10 for right now. I almost want to give it a 10, but I hate giving out 10s. And woooo suck it, Daedalus. Way to get smashed to death by falling debris, loser! |
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| I loved this episode and this whole series for that matter. It was the most epic show I had seen. Certainly adding it to my favorites. |
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| Yeah well about the ships at the end of the series, I believe it to be humans coming from outer space, Note episode 15: the game show episode where the space station is mentioned as humanities last hope, Leaving the fact that humans in space most likely saw their oppurtunity to return to the planet and took it...Now Vincent see's this and says I am the Emissary of Death...also considering that when the first was about to die he said: "Through your life you will punish the creator!" it ties in perfectly..And considering Humans created the proxies humanity must be the creator..Well that's my view on the ending...And now good old Vincent is gonna give them hell. |
Vi7riolAug 15, 2009 6:40 AM
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| Vincent is definitely going to roflfacepwn those damned humans. -.- lol I really would love to see a season 2 of sorts, though this ending was simply awesome. |
| This is one of my favourites. The setting is probably the reason for it, but almost everything was great. Yeah, there were a few iffy episodes, but overall it was a good ride. Gave it a 9/10. |
| I really liked this show, the ending, did it really need the last line, I don't know... Still awesome ending this show did a fantastic job using it's "filler" episodes well and it all lead up great. I am just sad it is over. 9/10 |
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| Amazing ending, amazing anime, amazing....mindfuck. I love animes like these where I have to think hard and get all these psychological twist. I wish they continued it. I'd love to see the "rebuilding of the world" for this anime. I'm giving it a 10/10. Screw you fuckers. You and your 9s. |
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