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Jul 6, 2024 8:46 AM
#1
dividing an arc into a trilogy of films I consider it a bad choice not only for the long waits that this will entail, but also because the entire narrative will be abruptly interrupted 3 times in an arc which is a whole succession of events (and as if divided the Shibuya arc in jjk into 3 films, very questionable stuff would have come out of it), but beyond this 3 films are too few for everything that needs to be animated until the end of the manga (which are around 70 chapters with the last 2 very long chapters), I wouldn't want the 3 films to adapt the Infinity Castle arc and then rebroadcast it in installments to make more money and make the final battle against Muzan the season finale, because I'm afraid there's It's this risk, and honestly these marketing maneuvers of ufotable have bored us more than Mappa with the management of the final season of Aot |
Jul 6, 2024 8:49 AM
#2
what makes you think ufotable decided this and not the production committee aka the real owners of any anime? |
Jul 6, 2024 8:55 AM
#3
I like it better as a movie trilogy. Good Choice from ufotable! |
Jul 6, 2024 8:55 AM
#4
I don’t see how this is a bad move, considering how well mugen train done the amount of money ufotable could make from these movies is crazy. |
Jul 6, 2024 8:57 AM
#5
Jul 6, 2024 8:58 AM
#6
Reply to deg
what makes you think ufotable decided this and not the production committee aka the real owners of any anime?
@deg I don't care who made the decision, it still remains a very questionable choice (like doing a season over a period of training) dictated only by wanting to milk the cow even more |
Jul 6, 2024 8:59 AM
#7
Reply to zSlayPaladin
I like it better as a movie trilogy. Good Choice from ufotable!
@zSlayPaladin You can imagine how nice it would be to wait for years and break the narrative every time because the arc is divided into 3 parts ๐ |
Jul 6, 2024 9:01 AM
#8
Reply to Phantom_Siren652
I don’t see how this is a bad move, considering how well mugen train done the amount of money ufotable could make from these movies is crazy.
@Phantom_373 I know it's a marketing choice and I hope they earn as little as possible because making films based on manga arcs a trend just to earn more is becoming very annoying, but in any case as a choice it's really frustrating, it could easily have been a season long |
Jul 6, 2024 9:03 AM
#9
Reply to FZREMAKE
Ever seen the Heavens feel trilogy.
This arc was made for movies. 3 main battles just long enough for 3 movies. The profit is going to be crazy.
This arc was made for movies. 3 main battles just long enough for 3 movies. The profit is going to be crazy.
@FZREMAKE It is a trilogy that cut many things, not giving the full potential that Heaven's feel could have been. Furthermore, no, this arc is perfect in episodes, dividing it into 3 films would only break the narrative and it would become frustrating to wait years each time for the next film. I hope they earn as little as possible because Ufotable has broken with these marketing ploys |
Jul 6, 2024 9:04 AM
#10
Leon888 said: @Phantom_373 I know it's a marketing choice and I hope they earn as little as possible because making films based on manga arcs a trend just to earn more is becoming very annoying, but in any case as a choice it's really frustrating, it could easily have been a season long Well I hope they earn as much as possible they deserve it they’re an incredible studio. See you may be mad now but the end product of these 3 movies will be phenomenal. And besides if we got a season it wouldn’t have the quality the movies would and they need a lot of time for this arc anyways because of how big it is. |
Jul 6, 2024 9:06 AM
#11
I think it's a good choice I don't think it's a bad choice I think it should be done like that because I don't think there's enough Source mature to do another season worth of episodes |
Jul 6, 2024 9:09 AM
#12
Reply to Phantom_Siren652
Leon888 said:
@Phantom_373 I know it's a marketing choice and I hope they earn as little as possible because making films based on manga arcs a trend just to earn more is becoming very annoying, but in any case as a choice it's really frustrating, it could easily have been a season long
@Phantom_373 I know it's a marketing choice and I hope they earn as little as possible because making films based on manga arcs a trend just to earn more is becoming very annoying, but in any case as a choice it's really frustrating, it could easily have been a season long
Well I hope they earn as much as possible they deserve it they’re an incredible studio.
See you may be mad now but the end product of these 3 movies will be phenomenal.
And besides if we got a season it wouldn’t have the quality the movies would and they need a lot of time for this arc anyways because of how big it is.
@Phantom_373 the ideal would have been to do training + infinity castle together in a nice long season like jujutsu kaisen 2 and then a final season or final film with a battle with Muzan. Furthermore, it is not true that without the trilogy it would not have the same quality, i remind you that the pleasure district had a higher quality than mugen train which was a film. Also no, Ufotable does good work but with these always annoying marketing choices they make me say that they don't deserve all this money (and they have already made millions with demon slayer) |
Jul 6, 2024 9:10 AM
#13
the only problem will be the long wait times and interruptions ... |
Jul 6, 2024 9:11 AM
#14
Reply to StarWars2000
I think it's a good choice I don't think it's a bad choice I think it should be done like that because I don't think there's enough Source mature to do another season worth of episodes
@StarWars2000 they have as much material to make a season as they want, the only reason for this choice is just to be able to milk the cow more which honestly, at this point, becomes just frustrating to watch (I don't know how anime only will be able to resist years for the whole the resulting wait) |
Jul 6, 2024 9:13 AM
#15
Jul 6, 2024 9:24 AM
#16
Jul 6, 2024 9:29 AM
#17
You never fail to deliver the worst take possible. I mean... Even if we wouldn't have an actual proof, which is Heaven's Feel trilogy, then you still would be wrong, because Ufo so far managed to make every choice right and nothing seems it would change There is a reason why Mugen Train succeeded so hard, afterall. But as it is now, it seems like you trying your best to be wrong about everything. |
PiromyslJul 6, 2024 9:36 AM
Jul 6, 2024 9:32 AM
#18
maybe it's due to their budget being a little lower than it was back then for the first movie or the the anime has to have lower budget than so they didn't have enough money to make a second another season |
Jul 6, 2024 9:32 AM
#19
Leon888 said: @Tulleha I wonder how anime only can wait so long, it's already frustrating for manga readers, let alone for those who don't know the story ๐ I agree my friend [ Character Limit ] |
Jul 6, 2024 9:37 AM
#20
honestly, i'd rather take a cliffhanger every 1.5h to 2h than a cliffhanger every 30 minutes |
Jul 6, 2024 9:39 AM
#21
this is great for ufotable theyre gonna make tons of money |
Jul 6, 2024 9:45 AM
#22
Pillsbury_Uchiha said: this is great for ufotable theyre gonna make tons of money Well, duh. Mugen Train is THE most grossing anime film worldwide and broke many other records, so there is no reason why they would not do the same with Infinity Castle and Sunrise Countdown. Especially since this epilogue is a constant, high octane action with objectively best fights and if we add to them movie budget, we will be seeing a history in the making. |
Jul 6, 2024 9:57 AM
#23
The audience has feelings attached to the story, but it is a business at the end of the day. And they are going to make BANK. For real though, I'm pretty hype about seeing the series end on the big screen. |
Jul 6, 2024 10:06 AM
#24
deg said: what makes you think ufotable decided this and not the production committee aka the real owners of any anime? Ufotable is on their production committee and decide projects in their best interest. This has been true since the ufotable founder was found committing tax fraud to keep the company from going into the red. |
Jul 6, 2024 10:13 AM
#25
Or imagine if Kizumonogatari would be a trilogy. Oh, wait. Well, yes, nothing really explains your take, because based on the amount of the content. It was pretty unlikely that ufotable put it into a single season, so there would have been a long waiting either way between. the seasons. And btw, Mappa did deliver a show with this approach, but the quality was worse and more inconsistent. And it was SnK. With its 3 year long final season, that consists of 2 seasons with different length and 2 half movies. Also, you can always wait for the 3 movies to be released before watching the first one. No one forces you to watch it in the theatre, and you can also rewatch them when the next one is released. So it's pretty your problem-type of thing. |
Jul 6, 2024 10:16 AM
#26
Jul 6, 2024 10:37 AM
#27
First people said that the hashira training arc was trash and how ufotable just stretched it into a whole season but then the same people say that the season finale is the most visually appealing thing they have ever seen ! The first movie hasnt even been released yet and there are already some who are trashing on ufotable about their choice ๐ |
Jul 6, 2024 10:37 AM
#28
Reply to WilfredJohnson
deg said:
what makes you think ufotable decided this and not the production committee aka the real owners of any anime?
what makes you think ufotable decided this and not the production committee aka the real owners of any anime?
Ufotable is on their production committee and decide projects in their best interest. This has been true since the ufotable founder was found committing tax fraud to keep the company from going into the red.
@WilfredJohnson production committees have hierarchy and i doubt ufotable is at the top of the hierarchy to have such a big decision made by only them the only choice studios has from production committee offers is to accept or decline an anime project afaik |
Jul 6, 2024 10:40 AM
#29
Jul 6, 2024 10:43 AM
#30
AhnimeXX said: First people said that the hashira training arc was trash and how ufotable just stretched it into a whole season but then the same people say that the season finale is the most visually appealing thing they have ever seen ! The first movie hasnt even been released yet and there are already some who are trashing on ufotable about their choice ๐ and just to remind you that a company cant run on scraps, it requires 80000 US DOLLARS just to make a single 24 min episode of demon slayer... It is obvious that ufotable would want to make a film series but that is not the proof that they would compromise on the source material... |
Jul 6, 2024 11:32 AM
#31
Reply to Leon888
@FZREMAKE It is a trilogy that cut many things, not giving the full potential that Heaven's feel could have been. Furthermore, no, this arc is perfect in episodes, dividing it into 3 films would only break the narrative and it would become frustrating to wait years each time for the next film. I hope they earn as little as possible because Ufotable has broken with these marketing ploys
@Leon888 Bruh the visual novel is so long that I don't think a 26 episode season would have included all of the stuff either. Look at deens adaptation which was a mess. Heavens feel was far better. It wont break the narrative at all. People had similar concerns when Mugen train movie was announced and then a season was announced for entertainment district. I don't think anyone is confused anymore. I don't know if Ufotable is the one making these decisions but we are seeing aniplex, crunchyroll and Sony pictures being involved in this as well. |
Jul 6, 2024 11:36 AM
#32
Jul 6, 2024 11:41 AM
#33
Ufotable decided to make a trilogy out of one of the most popular anime franchises in existence and you catastrophize it into being as bad as The Final Season: Part 5 somehow. If Evangelion can get away with dropping rebuilds and Gundam fans are still waiting for more Thunderbolt and Hathaway, Demon Slayer is fine. |
Jul 6, 2024 11:52 AM
#34
Leon888 said: dividing an arc into a trilogy of films I consider it a bad choice not only for the long waits that this will entail, but also because the entire narrative will be abruptly interrupted 3 times in an arc which is a whole succession of events (and as if divided the Shibuya arc in jjk into 3 films, very questionable stuff would have come out of it), but beyond this 3 films are too few for everything that needs to be animated until the end of the manga (which are around 70 chapters with the last 2 very long chapters), I wouldn't want the 3 films to adapt the Infinity Castle arc and then rebroadcast it in installments to make more money and make the final battle against Muzan the season finale, because I'm afraid there's It's this risk, and honestly these marketing maneuvers of ufotable have bored us more than Mappa with the management of the final season of Aot i dont care about milking as long as i can see those flashy animation in theatre which is the best part about demon slayer. |
Jul 6, 2024 11:54 AM
#35
Im starting to see a pattern in your Threads, on here...... |
Jul 6, 2024 12:04 PM
#36
We don’t really get a choice. If you don’t like it, then don’t watch it. You could just read the manga. |
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Jul 6, 2024 12:43 PM
#37
Leon888 said: dividing an arc into a trilogy of films I consider it a bad choice not only for the long waits that this will entail, but also because the entire narrative will be abruptly interrupted 3 times in an arc which is a whole succession of events (and as if divided the Shibuya arc in jjk into 3 films, very questionable stuff would have come out of it), but beyond this 3 films are too few for everything that needs to be animated until the end of the manga (which are around 70 chapters with the last 2 very long chapters), I wouldn't want the 3 films to adapt the Infinity Castle arc and then rebroadcast it in installments to make more money and make the final battle against Muzan the season finale, because I'm afraid there's It's this risk, and honestly these marketing maneuvers of ufotable have bored us more than Mappa with the management of the final season of Aot There is narrative whatsoever, so don’t worry |
Jul 6, 2024 12:46 PM
#38
It’s a monetary decision to milk as much money out of it as possible |
Jul 6, 2024 1:46 PM
#39
ktg said: Or imagine if Kizumonogatari would be a trilogy. Oh, wait. Well, yes, nothing really explains your take, because based on the amount of the content. It was pretty unlikely that ufotable put it into a single season, so there would have been a long waiting either way between. the seasons. And btw, Mappa did deliver a show with this approach, but the quality was worse and more inconsistent. And it was SnK. With its 3 year long final season, that consists of 2 seasons with different length and 2 half movies. Also, you can always wait for the 3 movies to be released before watching the first one. No one forces you to watch it in the theatre, and you can also rewatch them when the next one is released. So it's pretty your problem-type of thing. Kizumonogatari sucked as a movie trilogy. Every movie didn't have enough content and ended on random places. They don't even feel like movies. It should've been one 2-hour long movie. |
Imagine normies saying: "Peaky Blinders is mid and overhyped. Just another typical crime drama show. Breaking Bad is much better lol.". |
Jul 6, 2024 2:06 PM
#40
definitely better as movies because episodes u will need like (with how their episodes are right now) 3-4 seasons which in movies the pacing is faster and I bet we only have to wait the same time we would for a season |
Jul 6, 2024 2:50 PM
#42
deg said: what makes you think ufotable decided this and not the production committee aka the real owners of any anime? i say they are very towards to make movies which they done it twice and the movies made so many in money and popularity and set records,tbh i thinks movie is'nt a bad idea but movies is a bad idea. A solo would be epic but trilogy are so fd up,they donseem to care about watcher's pocket yet time,hype or focus and saying time there are countrys that don't air the movies one or two years ahaed of japan |
Jul 6, 2024 2:52 PM
#43
Phantom_373 said: I don’t see how this is a bad move, considering how well mugen train done the amount of money ufotable could make from these movies is crazy. it isn't about a movie ,it is three movies that is the problem. they should consider watchers too aside from money which they would done it with one movie too |
Jul 6, 2024 8:14 PM
#44
I’m excited to watch it in theaters budget is gonna be crazy |
Jul 7, 2024 5:08 AM
#45
I thought infinity castle is 45 chapters long If you include sunrise countdown arc where the infinity collapsed and they muzan outside it is 70 chapters But they called the movies infinity castle Not infinity castle + sunrise countdown 45 seems to fit for 3 movies Probably won't cut any scenes And it's a war arc so there aren't too many dialogues to make a possibility where they'll cut out some parts |
Jul 7, 2024 8:52 AM
#46
Reply to Ki11grave
ktg said:
Or imagine if Kizumonogatari would be a trilogy. Oh, wait.
Well, yes, nothing really explains your take, because based on the amount of the content. It was pretty unlikely that ufotable put it into a single season, so there would have been a long waiting either way between. the seasons.
And btw, Mappa did deliver a show with this approach, but the quality was worse and more inconsistent. And it was SnK. With its 3 year long final season, that consists of 2 seasons with different length and 2 half movies.
Also, you can always wait for the 3 movies to be released before watching the first one. No one forces you to watch it in the theatre, and you can also rewatch them when the next one is released.
So it's pretty your problem-type of thing.
Or imagine if Kizumonogatari would be a trilogy. Oh, wait.
Well, yes, nothing really explains your take, because based on the amount of the content. It was pretty unlikely that ufotable put it into a single season, so there would have been a long waiting either way between. the seasons.
And btw, Mappa did deliver a show with this approach, but the quality was worse and more inconsistent. And it was SnK. With its 3 year long final season, that consists of 2 seasons with different length and 2 half movies.
Also, you can always wait for the 3 movies to be released before watching the first one. No one forces you to watch it in the theatre, and you can also rewatch them when the next one is released.
So it's pretty your problem-type of thing.
Kizumonogatari sucked as a movie trilogy. Every movie didn't have enough content and ended on random places. They don't even feel like movies. It should've been one 2-hour long movie.
@Ki11grave That wouldn't have worked at all. 2 hours are not enough to adapt kizu. It needs at least 3 hours, but 3 hours would have been overkill as a single movie. And if you need to split, a 3-part split is much more logical, especially the way they did it. |
Jul 7, 2024 10:50 AM
#47
Reply to ktg
@Ki11grave That wouldn't have worked at all. 2 hours are not enough to adapt kizu. It needs at least 3 hours, but 3 hours would have been overkill as a single movie. And if you need to split, a 3-part split is much more logical, especially the way they did it.
@ktg Kizu has a great movie-like structure. There is the beginning, an inciting incident, obstacles, 'everything-is-seemingly-OK' part, the twist, hero is at his lowest, the final battle and a finale. It would've worked really well as a one movie. But with 3h15m length it feels too drawn out. I don't know about being truthful to the source material (I haven't read it), but Karen Bee and Tsukihi Phoenix were adapted in 7 and 4 episodes respectifully, even though novels have a similar length. It seems like there is a freedom of action when it comes to the running time. It doesn't help that among all Monogatari volumes, Kizu is the one that has the most number of episodes: almost nine. And accoring to wiki, there are 5 adapted volumes that have a higher number of pages. |
Imagine normies saying: "Peaky Blinders is mid and overhyped. Just another typical crime drama show. Breaking Bad is much better lol.". |
Jul 7, 2024 10:57 AM
#48
If this means they can use their “Unlimited Budget Works” flex, then so be it. Yes, it’ll suck to get the equivalent of like 4 episodes a year or so, but it has the potential to be peak. Let them cook |
Jul 7, 2024 10:59 AM
#49
Phantom_373 said: Leon888 said: @Phantom_373 I know it's a marketing choice and I hope they earn as little as possible because making films based on manga arcs a trend just to earn more is becoming very annoying, but in any case as a choice it's really frustrating, it could easily have been a season long Well I hope they earn as much as possible they deserve it they’re an incredible studio. See you may be mad now but the end product of these 3 movies will be phenomenal. And besides if we got a season it wouldn’t have the quality the movies would and they need a lot of time for this arc anyways because of how big it is. Idk why some people hate on Ufotable. They produce the best quality of work and it’s not even close |
Jul 7, 2024 11:00 AM
#50
Piromysl said: Pillsbury_Uchiha said: this is great for ufotable theyre gonna make tons of money Well, duh. Mugen Train is THE most grossing anime film worldwide and broke many other records, so there is no reason why they would not do the same with Infinity Castle and Sunrise Countdown. Especially since this epilogue is a constant, high octane action with objectively best fights and if we add to them movie budget, we will be seeing a history in the making. The highest grossing film ever from Japan, not just anime |
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