Kaina of the Great Snow Sea
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Mar 22, 2023 9:31 AM
#1
Well, this was it. The fate of everyone being settled althogh this definitely feels like a rushed finale. Episode actually turned out to be rather epic with a big fight for survival. Felt like a mini movie but hey, that giant machine went down in the end. They should be glad too since it was operated by a psychopath with an eyepatch. About time they took him out. |
Mar 22, 2023 9:32 AM
#2
The Admiral bringing war on the Builder towards Atland, it's a fight to the death with potential citizens still trapped. Ririha using the map to save one of their kin and got burned in the process, which is bad. More than Kaina spotting the Highlander words on the Builder, the Valghian citizens seeing the light of the Ascender of a war that's pretty much unneeded in the first place, Amelothée hesitating on Orinoga's order to stop the Builder, at least she isn't all bad to let him. Even with a shot of resistance to save her father, Ririha is not out of the woods yet, and it took until Kaina to save her with his metal-breaking bark cutter, energy expunged to the max. Combine that with Orinoga's fatal headshot, the Admiral is taken down for good, and Valghia retreats under Amelothée's call. It was definitely THE sign that was in lying all along, and Kaina was the Sage that the world awaits. Atland is safe and secure, and Amelothée and the Valghians are vindicated and allowed entry into Atland. And the map of the Snow Sea itself...even though burnt, was revived thanks to Kaina's photogaphic memory. The journey to the Great Spire Tree, it definitely is leading to the sequel movie. This show...is kinda mediocre, even by the legendary Tsutomu Nihei. And am I really that excited to watch the sequel movie coming out soon for the sotry's continuation, announced at the last minute? Nah... |
KANLen09Mar 22, 2023 11:46 AM
Mar 22, 2023 10:55 AM
#3
I loved the dreamlike feel of the show and am satisfied by what I watched. Lemme see, when does that movie get here? |
May the Uguu be with you. |
Mar 22, 2023 11:03 AM
#4
The show had a lot of potential, especially when it came to world building. Unfortunately, it did not really do much of anything. The show was just really flat throughout and at times even dragged. The setting is so cool and they failed to capitalize on that. This episode really highlighted how flat the characters were as well as some of the nonsensical decisions they made throughout. |
Mar 22, 2023 11:14 AM
#5
Expected more for a show with Blame’s author. Mostly a generic adventure where world building hasn’t been properly explored: the sequel movie is a must to get the whole picture. |
Mar 22, 2023 11:15 AM
#6
“Save me Kaina” *proceeds to fall down the steps lmaooo I really appreciate that Kaina and ririha weren’t bailed out by the ascendor tho and actually had to use the ancient tech to survive. Knew amelothee had good left in her. It’s nice seeing the snow sea world and the canopy connected, now to make the journey to the great tree. That movie can’t get here fast enough for me. I’m so in love with this world and the characters. Really wish it would’ve just been two cours tho. People complaining about the world building not being fully explored, well yea cause the story isn’t over yet. Odd complaint. |
Mar 22, 2023 11:35 AM
#7
Finally completed huh, well, we still need the movie for a full conclusion. Seriously, I already thought that Kaina having that mini-gun-laser is already a cheat of its own in their current era but to think there was a full-throttle option that he can use to get a red-light-beam that can shoot through the sky... now we can really call Kaina a SAGE. Hurray! lmao (not the SAGE in a lewd way though) |
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
Mar 22, 2023 11:42 AM
#8
The series is complete! Now for the movie, which will most likely be the conclusion. Nihei never misses. Let’s hope the wait for the movie isn’t too long |
Mar 22, 2023 1:07 PM
#9
Is that gravitational beam emitter |
Mar 22, 2023 1:17 PM
#10
I really liked this one, it was a simple story but the setting was so intriguing and interesting that I looked forward to it every week. True the cg isn't the best out there by far and it would have had a much bigger audience if it was in 2d but I didn't mind that. This is probably the biggest surprise for me this season. The main characters were very likeable and besides the deranged commander there wasn't really anybody I disliked, though I believe that was the intent ^^ I'm only sad we didn't get to see more from Lady Vader, but as far as I've heard there will be a movie, maybe we can get a bit more of her on that one. Objectively this would probably rank a bit lower on the scale, since the cg wasn't all that good and the story was a simple one, but to me the whole world was very much interesting and the finale was pretty epic, so I would give it a 8/10. Sad to see this one go. |
Mar 22, 2023 1:19 PM
#11
And so the day is saved, thanks to...Kaina's pocket-sized Death Star laser he never knew could be used that way. Convenient. You know, I knew going in this was getting a sequel movie, so I was skeptical regarding just how well this last episode could wrap things up. And while rushed, to its credit it did a better job than I expected. I figured the conflict would continue into the movie, but I guess the movie's just gonna be about reaching the Great Spire Tree then, huh? That's cool too I guess. What I didn't know going into this, when I put it on my Plan To Watch list, was that it would be a 3D CG show. In general that's a turnoff for me, though there have been some shows I've been able to enjoy even in that style, even if I'd have preferred a more traditional one. So I very nearly decided not to watch this afterall right at the start, but decided to anyway. And this wasn't bad. I liked the characters and story well enough. I'm not usually a huge fan of ending a story with a movie, but I'll try to remember to check it out whenever it comes out. But as it is, this ends with enough closure as is, I guess. Generous 7/10. |
animefan8800Mar 22, 2023 1:22 PM
Mar 22, 2023 1:24 PM
#12
So it was that laser after all lol. Didn't think it had such power but damn that output was quite something. A lot happened in the last few minutes. I'm glad they managed to go back to the canopy too. Was a pretty good anime overall. Liked the fantasy world building. Quite excited for the movie to see the conclusion. |
Mar 22, 2023 1:29 PM
#13
Well, okay. Could do with another episode for conclusion but we get the movie instead. It was rather stupid how Ririha just let the map burn, but I'm glad the knowledge itself wasn't lost. And the war came to an end just by defeating that admiral. He was legit mad and obsessed with fighting for fun, at least other people are normal and they can build better future without him. |
Mar 22, 2023 3:03 PM
#14
Hmm, things that stink this episode:
Good things about the show:
Bad things about the show:
Overall, had a good time and don't regret it. Solid 6/10. Doesn't quite replace Sidonia no Kishi, which is more a 7, maybe 8, but was worth my time. Looking forward to the movie, might work better than the episodic format. |
Mar 22, 2023 3:21 PM
#15
I was hoping for a s2 but turns out there's a movie , this was definitely a hidden gem of the season with Hikari no ou and I'm eager for both of their sequels, the movie and Hikari no ou's 2nd season |
Mar 22, 2023 3:28 PM
#16
Probably the biggest disappointment of the entire season. Man, there's a lot of garbage this season for whatever reason, the ratio seems to be a lot higher... |
Mar 22, 2023 4:39 PM
#17
Such a shame, the first half was good. |
Mar 22, 2023 5:22 PM
#18
I was angry at Liliha for letting the map burn, but then I see the King being a Princess Pinch(D-frag reference), and just staying frozen on a high tower. And so I realized, isn't all her fault, is genetics fault too. Overall was one of the animes of this season |
Mar 22, 2023 5:30 PM
#19
So they all live happily ever after ... until they get to the giant tree and find it is already occupied with folks who don't want to share. (Lather, rinse, repeat) All-in-all, an uninspired series. |
Mar 22, 2023 5:35 PM
#20
omfg the laser beam from a tiny device demolished the giant robot |
Mar 22, 2023 6:08 PM
#21
CaptainKenshiro said: Such a shame, the first half was good. Great world building with horrible characterisation. solid 6/10 for me. |
Mar 22, 2023 6:09 PM
#22
Very good! The movie will continue the story until its ending, probably. |
Mene, mene, tekel, parsin |
Mar 22, 2023 6:15 PM
#23
World building was great, the story was decent, different animation style to what I’m used too. I really enjoyed the concept and what it was going for, unfortunately the last episode felt like a rush finale. Hopefully the movie will do it justice 5/10 |
Mar 22, 2023 10:11 PM
#24
What I learned from this show is:
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Mar 22, 2023 10:15 PM
#25
Soooo she possibly doomed mankind for 1 person? Ok! Letting the tapestry be destroyed is an option. A poor one, but an option nonetheless. That was one damn good shot! He got the general right in the head thru-n-thru. I liked the world and cultres, but I found the animation flat/dull. I also found the Princess annoying. 6/10. |
dragynfaerieMar 22, 2023 10:35 PM
Mar 22, 2023 10:33 PM
#26
While it had some good ideas, and world building, the execution just wasn't there for me. The characters weren't that interesting either. That said, the lore and some of the backgrounds were quite decent, though the CGI was quite ungainly at times as well. We'll see what the sequel movie brings. 6/10. |
Mar 22, 2023 11:34 PM
#27
Mar 23, 2023 2:32 AM
#28
Decent show overall, I definitely preferred the earlier episodes and the more exploration feels, not this war, so I feel like I'll like the movie a lot more if we're going to focus on getting to the great spire tree. At least the thing or I guess person holding back the series is finally dead. Well then, I expected the tree laser cutter to be more than just a tree laser cutter, but Goddamn, that shit's an orbital cannon. Curious to see how the movie will go. 6/10 |
Mar 23, 2023 2:40 AM
#29
I loved this anime so I am so PISSED that they sacrificed a good conclusion for the movie, man It just needed 1 max 2 more episodes im sad |
Mar 23, 2023 2:56 AM
#30
Oh wow the bark cutter, they did mentioned about it on Episode 2. I remember that. I'm actually okay with that and not calling it Deus Ex Machina or terrible writing because they did mentioned about it. Admiral really just one dimensional character for real. There is no depth to his character at all. The Ascender thing still ended up a mystery. Actually a decent conclusion. My first time watching CGI Anime from Polygon Picture, i thought I'm gonna hate on it but they actually did decent with the CGI. Fighting choreography was okay as well. But the Music from Hiroyuki Sawano and Kohta Yamamoto really elevating some scene in this series. The movie gonna airing in Japan on October this year and for us who live outside Japan probably gonna wait a few months before we can watch it. The sad thing is probably I'm gonna forgot about what happened in this Anime and need to rewatch this series again which i hate because my time is limited, i rather spend my time to watch something new. Overall Decent 6/10 |
Mar 23, 2023 4:09 AM
#31
The manga artist really loves his Gravitational Beam Emitter. lol The mech has the words Toha Heavy Industries written on it. I am starting to feel like those words mean nothing, and they just appear here and there in Nihei-sensei's works for some reason only he knows. I liked how Ririha did a lot of things without Kaina's help. The other map also became useful. That was a good use of Chekov's gun. Glad to see Kaina go up to the Tenmaku again. This anime is so creative, which makes me come back to watch it every time. But, sadly, the story is very poor, and it's made even worse by the forced romance that really doesn't fit into the whole picture. Kaina and Ririha really actually spent a huge chunk of two episodes just running! I wish they skipped the repetitive running scenes. The conclusion felt weak. The big bad just died! Well, there's still a movie left, so maybe that'll be good? The art for this anime was not very good. It wasn't bad. But, it could have been so much better! With CGI, the artists could have created amazingly beautiful settings, but they didn't do much with it. |
FuMomo-kunMar 23, 2023 4:13 AM
Mar 23, 2023 4:35 AM
#32
I'm sorry, but that was so fucking stupid. Not only was taking the map to the king during a wat a brainless thing to do so, but she just casually decided to risk, caused the burning of the one thing that could save their world. And I'm not even gonna talk about that asspull of resolution to the fights. It's almost like the creators only decided to put effort in creating the setting(which is a really great one),decided to give up, and make the most generic anime show in existence. 2/10. But I'll add an additional point for the world alone. So 3/10. Bad, bad show. |
Mar 23, 2023 9:43 AM
#33
Mar 23, 2023 10:31 AM
#34
yasm said: I know what you are trying to imply here and you are wrong. Ririha accomplished way more than Kaina and showed bravery, and determination at every step. She went to Canopy by herself, she didn't break when she was held prisoner, she (recklessly) threw herself into danger to save others, even though her life was more "valuable", she desperately wanted to stop the war and save everyone (and kinda did).Hmm, things that stink this episode:
She's the one pushing the story forward - Kaina is just along for the ride. It's a good dynamic between those two characters - Ririha has the initiative, bravery and stubbornness and Kaina has his survival skills and knowledge. She's pushing forward and he's has her back. Also, of course she called for Kaina to save her a few seconds before she was going to die... You and everybody else would do the same in your last moments. The flag thing was kinda stupid, I agree. We already knew they have 2nd flag and we have already seen it in earlier episodes. The other one was only needed to prove that's it's a map because it still had letters on it. But since the war was stopped anyway, it lost its usefulness. Problem solved itself and there was no need to show Ririha sacrificing something to save a life again - she already did that multiple times. |
Mar 23, 2023 3:18 PM
#35
Thaeril said: I know what you are trying to imply here and you are wrong. Ririha accomplished way more than Kaina and showed bravery, and determination at every step. She went to Canopy by herself, she didn't break when she was held prisoner, she (recklessly) threw herself into danger to save others, even though her life was more "valuable", she desperately wanted to stop the war and save everyone (and kinda did). She's the one pushing the story forward - Kaina is just along for the ride. It's a good dynamic between those two characters - Ririha has the initiative, bravery and stubbornness and Kaina has his survival skills and knowledge. She's pushing forward and he's has her back. I'll grant she's brave, that much is true. But bravery without anything to back it up is just foolishness.
The only way she's pushing the story forward is by creating situations that Kaina has to solve. That's literally the only role she played throughout the entire series. I'll remind you, the series is called Kaina of the Great Snow Sea, not Princess of the Great Snow Sea. He's the main character, which is fine, but they could've handled the princess better. BTW if I was in a dangerous situation I wouldn't call for a dude (or dudette) I met a few days back to save me. I'd try to save myself, or failing that, call for a higher power in a moment of desperation. By expecting Kaina to rescue her time and time again she's showing she's incapable of surviving without a Hero in a White Horse, and that portrays a very meek and naive character. This is unfortunately a very common stereotype for princesses and that's harmful for girls that may grow up believing this is what a woman in a position of power should look like. |
Mar 23, 2023 6:39 PM
#36
A good way to end the season but this episode felt a bit rushed |
Mar 24, 2023 9:30 AM
#37
IDK how the heck the laser cannon expanded to be THAT wide?? I mean, that's impossible according to the physics not to mention the aperture would be too small and light doesn't do 90 degree bends like that??? But I mustn't nitpick, this is fantasy not hard sci fi. Whole series felt like they were priming for a movie. But honestly, despite decent world building, IMO the CGI isn't good enough to make a movie that people will pay money to watch. |
Mar 24, 2023 6:35 PM
#38
What a terrible finale. I was really enjoying the show until this episode soured me on the whole experience. This was not the most inventive show but it was a well done straight forward heroes journey. Kaina pulling a mech melter 3000 out of his pocket was one of the stupidest things I have ever seen. All that power with no recoil or repercussion? Just a drained battery? What a horrible way to quickly wrap up what otherwise was an enjoyable journey. |
Mar 25, 2023 4:13 AM
#39
IMMA FIRIN MAH' LAZER~!!! at least now they have a really big ship from valghan to continue |
Mar 25, 2023 5:35 AM
#40
I would like to see more Amelothee and blue-haired guy and less Ririha lying down and not trying to idk, run away? But like someone said before, it must be the genes of the king chilling on the tower and waiting to be hit. When she said "Save me Kaina" I was sure that they will do some deus ex machina thing so I wasn't even surprised by this giga laser haha. Honestly after the mecha showed up I knew nothing could suprise me more so I was just enjoying the show with no expectations. But overall I can say I liked it. Yeah, the characters were bland, the story is uneven but I have a soft spot for things trying to create a diffrent world than the one we know and I enjoyed this part. In the movie I would love to see more GIANT INSECTS and other creatures living there (this horn smth that Kaina saw in one episode and ignored it???), more world building in general. I am really disappointed with the developement of the relationship between Ririha and Kaina - after firsts episodes I thought that they can have some chemistry but the bathhouse episode ruined it for me and after that it was only rescuing the princess again and again. I don't care about them anymore but I care about giants insects so give me that. |
Mar 25, 2023 5:38 AM
#41
PUHPUHPUHPOWER said: Best moment in this episode "He's been possessed by the demon , The demon that dwell's within all weapons Powerful weapons can devour the soul of their users deluding them into thinking a weapon's power is truly theirs" damn these lines were great!! |
Mar 25, 2023 9:51 AM
#42
Show gave me a lot of nostalgia for some of classic adventure style movies like Laputa, but this wasn't a great one. As far as foreshadowed but still overly convenient solutions, I liked the laser more than Light solving things, but neither is all that satisfying. Don't know why they couldn't have left the mech's defeat to our expert sniper. Controller dies and it collapses into ruin, easy. I was very tired of the admiral's raspy, excessively evil voice by the end as well as everyone calling out each others' names. Ending was definitely rushed, with the glossed over return to the canopy being particularly silly. Don't know if I want to bother with the followup. |
Mar 25, 2023 10:05 AM
#43
Da fuck they do to butcher that ending... I chuckled when The laser became Huge.. I thought it would be strong enough to take down the machine thing but not like that lol. This needed at least 1 more episode ffs. |
Mar 25, 2023 4:27 PM
#44
I really enjoyed this one. The world building so far is nice, though I'm hoping they go deeper in the movie (and hopefully a second season). A few things I need clarification on is the Ascender (since they rarely used it in the show), the history of the world, and just what is the "Snow Sea?" Also, I did not expect that fucking laser blast or whatever at the end lmao. Overall this was enjoyable, and I'd give it a 7.8 or 7.9/10. |
Mar 25, 2023 8:43 PM
#45
After watching the ending, I'm like, Huh? That was it?! It had a intriguing setting, and lots of mysterious plot points that you look forward to get revealed such as: what or who is sage? and what happened during the supposed sage era? and why was the world is such in the bad state such as running out of water? who is the general? and what the heck is ascender that kaina kept seeing and finally ririha before supposed to be coming to their aid? (It's appearance was useless btw, I don't know what it did) and what is canopy? they even had a map of a orbital tree and some destructive weapons from the sage era. and even if they go to that orbital tree, wouldn't that orbital tree also run out of water? But in the end this is one of those series with wasted potential leaving so many plot holes and feels like your wait does not pay off leaving you unsatisfied. This is definitely my biggest disappointment this season. Such a shame. |
Mar 26, 2023 4:51 AM
#46
hmm, I'm also totally unsatisfied. there should be at least one more episode to get a proper ending. |
Mar 26, 2023 9:11 AM
#47
looks like that Bark Cutter borrowed the power of Cyclops' "energy ray" lolz! such a small thing for such colossal power! 5/5. 7/10. |
Mar 26, 2023 7:11 PM
#48
Great episode but overall I thought this anime was good. I did like the world building but I wish more information would've been shared such as what exactly the snow sea is composed of and why it got to be that way, why water is so scarce that different groups fight over it, what happened that caused the current humans to have forgotten the written language, technology, etc. The animation, use of CG, and character designs were ok. I still mostly enjoyed watching this series and will watch the movie when it comes out with English subtitles. Overall I give this a 7/10. |
Mar 31, 2023 7:23 AM
#49
yasm said: Thaeril said: I know what you are trying to imply here and you are wrong. Ririha accomplished way more than Kaina and showed bravery, and determination at every step. She went to Canopy by herself, she didn't break when she was held prisoner, she (recklessly) threw herself into danger to save others, even though her life was more "valuable", she desperately wanted to stop the war and save everyone (and kinda did). She's the one pushing the story forward - Kaina is just along for the ride. It's a good dynamic between those two characters - Ririha has the initiative, bravery and stubbornness and Kaina has his survival skills and knowledge. She's pushing forward and he's has her back. I'll grant she's brave, that much is true. But bravery without anything to back it up is just foolishness.
The only way she's pushing the story forward is by creating situations that Kaina has to solve. That's literally the only role she played throughout the entire series. I'll remind you, the series is called Kaina of the Great Snow Sea, not Princess of the Great Snow Sea. He's the main character, which is fine, but they could've handled the princess better. BTW if I was in a dangerous situation I wouldn't call for a dude (or dudette) I met a few days back to save me. I'd try to save myself, or failing that, call for a higher power in a moment of desperation. By expecting Kaina to rescue her time and time again she's showing she's incapable of surviving without a Hero in a White Horse, and that portrays a very meek and naive character. This is unfortunately a very common stereotype for princesses and that's harmful for girls that may grow up believing this is what a woman in a position of power should look like. Without that i'd conclude that Kaina would be entirely useless in this anime. |
Mar 31, 2023 12:24 PM
#50
I think this was a good series that had an interesting world setup. the issue is that series such as this need a longer setup to fully establish the world and characters. it really needed a 24 episode run to flesh out the world and characters. it felt rushed in the end but it was enjoyable. 7/10 |
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