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Jun 2, 2022 12:43 AM
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So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.
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Anya read Loid’s mind who was reading out the right answers



Did you know how to spell "symplectomorphism" just by hearing it?
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Prolly she can get the spelling by the person thinking in it unconsciously, thats all. But is just a show dude, there is nothing more to it than to enjoy it😂
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mechian said:
Kirinoze said:
Anya read Loid’s mind who was reading out the right answers



Did you know how to spell "symplectomorphism" just by hearing it?

It’s not English it’s in Japanese, yes in normality she wouldn’t be able to spell that word just by hearing it. But it’s in Japanese so every word is easy to spell by hearing it because the crosswords are all in hiragana most likely.
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Kirinoze said:
Anya read Loid’s mind who was reading out the right answers


yeah but She isn't educated so how can She spell some complex words?
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Prolly she can get the spelling by the person thinking in it unconsciously, thats all. But is just a show dude, there is nothing more to it than to enjoy it😂

every time that there IS this kinda of post i think, why we watch a show and judge It if everyone Need Only to enjoy them? because we Need to see even the bad side of the show, this in particularity have many of them.
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What's the point you are getting at...?
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Actually, I didn't think about it.
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SuntProstMare said:
sir_b4c0n said:
Prolly she can get the spelling by the person thinking in it unconsciously, thats all. But is just a show dude, there is nothing more to it than to enjoy it😂

every time that there IS this kinda of post i think, why we watch a show and judge It if everyone Need Only to enjoy them? because we Need to see even the bad side of the show, this in particularity have many of them.

(My bad, I didn't quote my reply to yours) what's the point you are getting at with what you said...?
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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.

bruh, didn't think about it
you got a point tho
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sir_b4c0n said:
SuntProstMare said:

every time that there IS this kinda of post i think, why we watch a show and judge It if everyone Need Only to enjoy them? because we Need to see even the bad side of the show, this in particularity have many of them.

(My bad, I didn't quote my reply to yours) what's the point you are getting at with what you said...?

Because you sayed that IS "Only a show" yeah, but still you Need to pay attention a t this problems that many shows have.
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SuntProstMare said:
sir_b4c0n said:

(My bad, I didn't quote my reply to yours) what's the point you are getting at with what you said...?

Because you sayed that IS "Only a show" yeah, but still you Need to pay attention a t this problems that many shows have.

You don't have to, one thing is if you want to, and a different thing is if you have to, in this case you don't have to 'cause since not everything is for everyone, rather just keep watching or drop it. As simple man. Anyways, I know you won't agree, I just know, so, I don't wanna keep on with it. Have a good day, tho.
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mechian said:


Did you know how to spell "symplectomorphism" just by hearing it?

It’s not English it’s in Japanese, yes in normality she wouldn’t be able to spell that word just by hearing it. But it’s in Japanese so every word is easy to spell by hearing it because the crosswords are all in hiragana most likely.

I can understand why you think it's in Japanese. But I can assure that japanese is not the official language of the world they are presenting except the conversations.

Check the image sent slowly and properly, the title of the crossword panel is written as "CROSSWORD" and not "クロスワードパズル" or something like that. (Not a native speaker of Japanese. I just copied this from google translate as an example).

This show has a setting of Germany from 2nd world war. Its an European based country. So why isn't the scripts in German? Idk. Maybe the author wanted to go with English.

Lets just say, how Anya was able to spell those words as unexplored plot point of her psychic ability, or the favourite terms of Pseudo critiques in this site - "Plot hole"
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FaceClan said:

It’s not English it’s in Japanese, yes in normality she wouldn’t be able to spell that word just by hearing it. But it’s in Japanese so every word is easy to spell by hearing it because the crosswords are all in hiragana most likely.

I can understand why you think it's in Japanese. But I can assure that japanese is not the official language of the world they are presenting except the conversations.

Check the image you sent slowly and properly, the title of the crossword panel is written as "CROSSWORD" and not "クロスワードパズル" or something like that. (Not a native speaker of Japanese. I just copied this from google translate as an example).

This show has a setting of Germany from 2nd world war. Its an European based country. So why isn't the scripts in German? Idk. Maybe the author wanted to go with English.

Lets just say, how Anya was able to spell those words as unexplored plot point of her psychic ability, or the favourite terms of Pseudo critiques in this site - "Plot hole"

I mean yeah technically you are right. But the original manga is written in Japanese so that’s why the words are so hard. I don’t even think the word that he even mentioned is on there given the length of the word vs the challenge of the puzzle. Translation from Japanese to English is tricky. But if this was perfect then everything they should be doing should be in German and that but they want people to understand and read what’s happening rather than being historically and geographically correct.
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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.

The likely the same reason Yor accepts Loid blowing up his “patients” with a grenade. Or how Loid accepts Yor blushing at knifes and the ability to paralyze a cow instantly. Or how Loid accepts Anya saying exactly the same words that he thinks.

It’s a part of the comedy. It’s outlandish like everything else in the show.
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Jun 2, 2022 1:37 AM
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Anya can "view" people's thoughts as we learn in Bond's Arc
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For a child her age, knowing those words are already impressive in the first place, even if she mispelled some of them.
I think Loid simply condones her errors, if any.

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Well,Peeping into someone's intellect is different from just reading or listening.
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It's better not to think about something specific for me
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mechian said:
Kirinoze said:
Anya read Loid’s mind who was reading out the right answers



Did you know how to spell "symplectomorphism" just by hearing it?

In most languages that are not english, including japanese and european languages, you can spell and write a word just by hearing the sound. Incredible idea, I know

Steins;Gate and AoT good
Demon Slayer bad
Jun 2, 2022 3:43 AM

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Anya can "view" people's thoughts as we learn in Bond's Arc

major spoiler dude. Use spoiler tag please.
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It doesn't really matter, the series never take the consistency of Anya's mind power seriously so you shouldn't either, they can hack anything afterwards and call it a day, people will also clap to the foreshadowing, dont mind



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To point out how Anya did the impossible and the puzzle scene makes no sense or something? What you're discussing is pretty much nitpicking a 5 second scene.


So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.
She can read and write. She was taught this in the secret facility she was born. I bet she wasn't taught things like a normal kid. There's a reason why Anya has PTSD when it comes to studying.


How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.
The events take place in a Cold-war era "Germany", yet characters write in English and speak Japanese!!! Of course this is done so the viewers don't get confused. How can you argue about "knowing how to write", when things are already that complicated?!
In my native language, for instance, you write what you hear 1in1; you don't need 2 letters to make 1 sound, like with "sh", "ch" - we have 1 letter for those. I don't know why anyone should even care so much? Don't they do spelling contests in US, where children are given some complicated words? My point is, Anya may not always be writing the words correctly, but that's something Loid would not care about anyways. I mean, if Anya were to write "Hipnosis" instead of "Hypnosis" Loid would not care since Anya kind-of still solved the puzzle, even though she wrote it wrongly.
We also have no idea how her mind-reading works (yet).
In conclusion, the characters may in actuality be speaking/writing a fictional language that isn't hard when it comes to spelling (like my native language), but the author/director may have decided to simplify things for the viewers so we have better idea what's going on! This is seriously not something worth deep thinking...

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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.




They're actually pretty easy in Japanese.

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V1P3R0P said:
nwssx said:
Anya can "view" people's thoughts as we learn in Bond's Arc

major spoiler dude. Use spoiler tag please.
don't worry, it's not a spoiler actually, but now that I think about this we already know this when she reads what Yor imagines during the post-school interview arc
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Kirinoze said:
Anya read Loid’s mind who was reading out the right answers


yeah but She isn't educated so how can She spell some complex words?

Japanese is a language where all words sound exactly how they are spelled. No silent letters, no different pronunciations, no tricks. If she knows how to read and write the japanese equivalent to the alphabet, she can spell out and word that is spoken to her
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sir_b4c0n said:
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every time that there IS this kinda of post i think, why we watch a show and judge It if everyone Need Only to enjoy them? because we Need to see even the bad side of the show, this in particularity have many of them.

(My bad, I didn't quote my reply to yours) what's the point you are getting at with what you said...?

well I know this show isn't going to be 'attack on titan deep' but let people live. If they want to read between the lines for a deeper meaning let them. Holy Jesus they just wanna know how the character works-
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lois probably visualized the spelling of the word, so she would be able to see it directly
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yeah but She isn't educated so how can She spell some complex words?

Japanese is a language where all words sound exactly how they are spelled. No silent letters, no different pronunciations, no tricks. If she knows how to read and write the japanese equivalent to the alphabet, she can spell out and word that is spoken to her

How can She write and spell?
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This scene confused me too while I was watching it since it only shows Twilight thinking of one answer, but I guess you have to assume he was looking through all of the clues as she answered them. That would be a boring sequence so they short handed it. But it would have been better if he threw off a few more answers.
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Maybe she practiced it beforehand on another paper.
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she’s probably using hiragana
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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.

It doesn’t make sense with the amount of time she spent working on it, but the show is clearly choosing to be absurd and is enjoyable despite many other things that probably wouldn’t work in reality.

So the question is … how much would the show benefit from drawing out the scene by having Loid spell out the words in the crossword so that Anya could hear how they are spelled? Is making it more realistic really going to make the show better in your eyes?

I doubt that would really make a difference for you. In fact, it would probably disrupt the pacing, or flow or whatever, and make it worse
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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.

I've got a fix for this: When you solve a crossword you spell out the word so that you can check if the number of letters in the word fits the number of boxes given for you to fill. Twilight could have done that in his head and Anya probably read that spelling with her superpower.
There, all better now.
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So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.
She can read and write. She was taught this in the secret facility she was born. I bet she wasn't taught things like a normal kid. There's a reason why Anya has PTSD when it comes to studying.


How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.
The events take place in a Cold-war era "Germany", yet characters write in English and speak Japanese!!! Of course this is done so the viewers don't get confused. How can you argue about "knowing how to write", when things are already that complicated?!
In my native language, for instance, you write what you hear 1in1; you don't need 2 letters to make 1 sound, like with "sh", "ch" - we have 1 letter for those. I don't know why anyone should even care so much? Don't they do spelling contests in US, where children are given some complicated words? My point is, Anya may not always be writing the words correctly, but that's something Loid would not care about anyways. I mean, if Anya were to write "Hipnosis" instead of "Hypnosis" Loid would not care since Anya kind-of still solved the puzzle, even though she wrote it wrongly.
We also have no idea how her mind-reading works (yet).
In conclusion, the characters may in actuality be speaking/writing a fictional language that isn't hard when it comes to spelling (like my native language), but the author/director may have decided to simplify things for the viewers so we have better idea what's going on! This is seriously not something worth deep thinking...[/quote]

And here you are writing several paragraphs analyzing and complaining. Took you more than 5 seconds.

I hope you see the irony.


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Mod Edit: Removed baiting.
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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.

Loid was probably playing the puzzle in his head. Spelling out the words, putting connections together himself.
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considering loid would have to look at the clues and double check the spelling when he thinks of the word to see if it fits and lines mesh up word to word,its safe to say loid is thinking of words and how to spell them.
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in Japanese, it's easier to write words after hearing. Even someone like me who doesn't have good knowledge of Japanese can write many Japanese words just by listening to the sound. Japanese is just built that way.
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The show is full of plot holes
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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.

one, its in japanese, which means kanji or hiragana (probably the latter)

two, we dont know fully how she reads minds

three, maybe she did it before? as a "effort" to be picked by the adopter?

in all due respect, its still wholesome, so i dont really care lol
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I mean your assuming she cant spell because she hasnt gotten education, but you dont have to have education to accurately do a crossword.

Its a run down orphanage, they couldve been playing with leftover newspapers as one of the few things that they have to do there.

Thats if you dont accept that she can also view minds, which is what happened.
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SuntProstMare said:
Kirinoze said:
Anya read Loid’s mind who was reading out the right answers


yeah but She isn't educated so how can She spell some complex words?

Loid could have been visualising the words in his mind
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lfnreviews said:
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yeah but She isn't educated so how can She spell some complex words?

Loid could have been visualising the words in his mind

She "listen" the mind, She can't see what the people think
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Shounens are always going to have dumb plot holes and conveniences like that
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Shounens are always going to have dumb plot holes and conveniences like that

Being shounen doesn't mean anything.
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@mechian

And here you are writing several paragraphs analyzing and complaining. Took you more than 5 seconds.
I hope you see the irony.


There is NO irony, pal. Would you prefer if I said, "no u wrong" and left without elaborating any further? I've explained my POV thoroughly, as is usual in any normal discussion thread. I don't understand why you'd get frustrated by paragraphs that take more than 5 seconds to read...

Anyways, I hope we can agree that when people argue, they risk offending the other party. This, however, doesn't justify throwing petty insults. The thread has been edited by Mod, so be careful with your next words. If you'd like to elaborate more on the topic that is...
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mechian said:
So we know Anya can mind read but that doesn't mean much if she's barely educated.

How would she even know how to write "homeostasis" or "symplectomorphism"? I'm not sure what it was in Japanese but I assume it's still a complex word.

Considering she can barely say normal words correctly sometimes it makes you wonder.

We simply do not know the full range of Anya’s hidden powers. There is more to be revealed!
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Hmm, how do I put it... the words are already written on the newspaper so if she can just read it all she has to do is put it as it is.
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I guess she knows how to read and write by the organization
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Anime logic I guess
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