Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen 3rd Season Episode 2 Discussion
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| No doubt Myne is a target for her skills and talent in this particular world. Honestly, this episode felt like a balance between slightly eerie but also emotional. Myne obviously has a strong bond with the cast especially Lutz, and that doesn't seem to have changed. She and Tuuli also share a close bond together. It's just so sweet. |
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| Army full of chibi Myne will one day conquer the world, this is the story of how it happened. A good idea to make classroom to teach people and kids write and read, a bit short lived unfortunately. But Mayne is getting more and more lonely in her "isolation", without her family and friends its hard on her, tho the occasional visits help. Also Myne getting a bodyguard, one of the knights she met some time ago lol, small world ... but about time, shits gonna hit the fan, FOR KING AND COUNTRY MYNE! FOR KING AND COUNTRY! |
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| Main's time in the Cathedral just fits with Benno's warning for her to stay away from the Ink Guild, and she can only spend time with her attendants to teach them and make things while Fran acts as a parental guide in her moment of recluse. It's clear that Main's homesickness is taxing on her both physically and emotionally, and while Lutz, Tuuli and Benno took turns to meet Main and prepare her for the Winter Dedication Ceremony, it's the Ink Guild that has Head Priest Ferdinand on guard because Main has a well of never-ending knowledge, except with her fever and Devouring in toll. Becoming a noble's adopted child and breaking ties with her original family, Main can be very spoiled when her overwhelming mana can be exploited by the baddies, and Ferdinand is not taking any chances until she turns 10. Considering the events now, it'd be best to safeguard Main until the time is ripe. |
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| I forgot how terrifying Myne can be lol. We are always preparing for the worst despite the seemingly innocent atmosphere. Poor Myne, she just wants to read. |
| They were digging their own grave with that adoption proposal, didn't they? She's feeling homesick so that should've been the last thing she wanted to have a conversation about. Anyways, good to know that green haired bastard did get "that" punishment. |
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| Damn main was about to snap at the prospect of being taken away from her family. I thought she had got better at living on her own in the last arc, but looks like she’s still feeling very homesick. I don’t understand why the church would intentionally try to aggravate her with this. The head priest’s comments about her being dealt with she’s deemed dangerous was pretty ominous. I think when she realises that she puts other people at risk if she doesn’t control herself, Main will be ok. |
Marinate1016Apr 18, 2022 12:13 PM
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| So much feels happening here Im going to have to ignore them. Main almost feels like a traded good, but luckily Main knows whats going on. And Main could probably crush them all as seasons past has shown. But she is collecting friends and allies, and even head priest priest seems on the level. At this point im hoping for some further ascendance and noble crushing :D |
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| They try to get her adopted by nobility and that would mean to get get separated from family but she should also think what opportunity it could be to join ranks of the nobles. She would have more money and political power to create her dreams. Surely any commoner's family would be glad if their daughter had such opportunity even if it meant never seeing her again. I mean back in the days arranged marriages were common and sometimes you did end up a long way from your original place. Wouldn't parents always want to have their children even better life than they can offer? Also Main has not yet realized that how dangerous her inventions are. I mean more famous she become the more dangerous her life is going to get. She needs have organization to protect her. Even in our world rich and celebrates has bodyguards and systems to ensure that they are protected. She is beginning to become threat to other players and might get crushed by bigger players. If she were noble she would have the protection. |
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EXP3RIM said: The Sound blocking magic tool -- I thought that was also just a manufactured stone (like the direct talking one) but it being embedded into a metal made more sense, Also I for some reason always assumed that AoE would be in the shape of a Dome, A shimmering cubical was a very nice detail, felt like real fantasy stuff, now my Bookworm World in my head is more detailed. In the novel, it's actually described as being cube-shaped, with a feystone being in each corner of it. RavenWolf1 said: They try to get her adopted by nobility and that would mean to get get separated from family but she should also think what opportunity it could be to join ranks of the nobles. She would have more money and political power to create her dreams. Surely any commoner's family would be glad if their daughter had such opportunity even if it meant never seeing her again. I mean back in the days arranged marriages were common and sometimes you did end up a long way from your original place. Wouldn't parents always want to have their children even better life than they can offer? You need to keep in mind that Myne's family is especially close-knit compared to even other commoner families. In addition, you also need to keep in mind the event from the end of season 2 that Myne mentioned in Ferdinand's hidden room. The memory-reading magic tool made her realize how crap a daughter she'd been in her previous life so she's determined to do everything she can for her family in this life. So she's far more attached to them than she would have been even halfway through season 2. You're trying to approach this from a purely logical standpoint and that's the issue: Myne is perfectly capable of being very rational and logical but she is, at her core, an emotions-driven individual. In fact, you're actually committing the same mistake that both Ferdinand and Karstedt committed in this very episode, which is approaching things from the standpoint of a noble: What each person involved stands to gain or lose. Treating people like pawns on a chessboard instead of actual people and disregarding their feelings on the subject. (Though both Ferdinand and Karstedt, while actually quite decent people, are NOT known for their sensitivity, even if Ferdinand in particular is quite perceptive, lol.) |
| Poor Myne being forced to basically do nothing but be in her room since everything is either too dangerous or too uncouth for her. Did not expect for Shikikoza to get executed for what he did, maybe people higher up care for Myne or it just reflected so poorly on the knights. Like how the show even with it's light tone shows how bad nobels can be, hopefully nothing happens to her family, also that this ink incident be a lesson to not just run her mouth on about novel inventions but who I'm a kiddin with that, thats Myne's nature. |
| The adoption was finally brought up. I think Myne is being a bit immature for the situation she's in. She's trying to revolutionize the world without any consequences. She was 22 before reincarnation iirc, so she should have at least some semblance of realization in the midst of revolution, especially in a medieval world where nobles and the wealthy run everything. Not to mention how she just keeps on churning ideas out thoughtlessly. Maybe there's so much magic stuffed in her that the realism just didn't have any room left. Anyway, I hope she can mature a bit (yay character growth). What will she do about the adoption/academy deadline? |
“We all have our time machines, don't we. Those that take us back are memories... And those that carry us forward, are dreams.” ― H.G. Wells, The Time Machine  |
| I found it really distracting how whimsical the OST was when they were talking about high-ranking nobles wanting to kidnap Myne, kill her family and pretend she's their kid to earn the Lord's favour: that's a super serious conversation, but the music completely killed the mood. Wouldn't it have been better to go for slightly gloomier music to better fit Myne's mindset at hearing all of this? At least it somewhat shifted as soon as the talk of adopting Myne into a noble family came up. That aside, I do like that the show is starting to bring up the ripples that Myne's innovations and ascension to blue-robed shrine apprentice would be having in the wider world: it's good to get an isekai where even the smallest actions have actual, tangible ramifications in the world and the characters have to adjust their approach accordingly, rather than one where they just steamroll their ideas onto the fantasy world they end up in. |
| I know Myne's childish side is nothing new but I do find it a bit annoying when she's so incredibly lonely at the start of her seperation. That said things are getting pretty interesting with her getting a bodyguard. Also curious if when Lutz travels if we'll get to see a different city too, would be cool to get a better picture of their world. |
| Darn, she's now full of enemies, I got a bit teary eyed when Main was saying goodbye to Tuuri and then that quiet "wait". |
| hold up. when did they show main/myne realized/knew ferdinand took a peek at her memory including past life? Its never shown in anime right? and cant remember this scene in manga as well. did i'd missed it? from what I remember, that memory peeking scene only in 1st and last episode on season 1. iirc  -- EXP3RIM said: Chibi Myne Army ftw!!! Nice addition at the very end with Art pieces also depicting Ferdinand losing to Myne, which is actually canon, and then Ferdinand taking out his anger on Karstedt. ouh, so that scene is canon in LN? --- Alice3173 said: You need to keep in mind that Myne's family is especially close-knit compared to even other commoner families. In addition, you also need to keep in mind the event from the end of season 2 that Myne mentioned in Ferdinand's hidden room. The memory-reading magic tool made her realize how crap a daughter she'd been in her previous life so she's determined to do everything she can for her family in this life. So she's far more attached to them than she would have been even halfway through season 2. You're trying to approach this from a purely logical standpoint and that's the issue: Myne is perfectly capable of being very rational and logical but she is, at her core, an emotions-driven individual. In fact, you're actually committing the same mistake that both Ferdinand and Karstedt committed in this very episode, which is approaching things from the standpoint of a noble: What each person involved stands to gain or lose. Treating people like pawns on a chessboard instead of actual people and disregarding their feelings on the subject. (Though both Ferdinand and Karstedt, while actually quite decent people, are NOT known for their sensitivity, even if Ferdinand in particular is quite perceptive, lol.) ouh, so that scene from my question got covered in last of s2? noted. will rewatch again. ty! and yes, i concur with emotional-logical myne/main. cant expect her not to have feeling and act logical like an android. |
shuffle_017Apr 19, 2022 5:29 AM
| Myne of course will feel lonely. I'm against to a noble adapting her. |
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| Poor Myne is in a rough spot now. I hope they clear it up soon so she can go back to being happy go lucky. |
shuffle_017 said: hold up. when did they show main/myne realized/knew ferdinand took a peek at her memory including past life? Its never shown in anime right? and cant remember this scene in manga as well. did i'd missed it? from what I remember, that memory peeking scene only in 1st and last episode on season 1. iirc -- Peoples on the receiving end of that memory probing item are perfectly conscious that their memories are being looked at. This is why Ferdinand was prepared to have Myne hate him for the rest of her life, and he was very surprised at first when in reverse she was enthusiastic about "showing him around". So she's always known he did. And yes that's a scene in the last episode of the 2nd season indeed. shuffle_017 said: EXP3RIM said: Chibi Myne Army ftw!!! Nice addition at the very end with Art pieces also depicting Ferdinand losing to Myne, which is actually canon, and then Ferdinand taking out his anger on Karstedt. ouh, so that scene is canon in LN? It is. Myne basically showed him how to play the game by having a match against him. He lost that game, because she went all out against someone that was basically discovering how to play lol. It is also canon that she never wins another game against him after that :D |
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Zefyris said: Peoples on the receiving end of that memory probing item are perfectly conscious that their memories are being looked at. This is why Ferdinand was prepared to have Myne hate him for the rest of her life, and he was very surprised at first when in reverse she was enthusiastic about "showing him around". So she's always known he did. And yes that's a scene in the last episode of the 2nd season indeed. sorry, forgot to check it until you tagged me, LOL. yup, last eps on s2. dont know why i forgot important event like this. my bad. thanks!   Zefyris said: It is. Myne basically showed him how to play the game by having a match against him. He lost that game, because she went all out against someone that was basically discovering how to play lol. It is also canon that she never wins another game against him after that :D i see. Ferdinand learnt it all out huh? hahahaha ------ and just noticed it in MAL. this season only have 10 eps :'( this is pretty quick |
shuffle_017Apr 19, 2022 5:33 AM
| Poor Maine she doesn't want to be separated from her family of course :( but the situation is difficult, at least she can wait until she turns 10 |
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| Am I the only one that finds her depiction extremely successful? Yes, she has knowledge and intelligence, but also the brain of a child, especially when it comes to emotions, even more so because even her adult version wasn't very developed when it comes to emotions and human interaction, given that she was basically a recluse and borderline psychotic. |
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phantomfandom said: People should be more surprised when Main invent boardgame and cardgame and etc. So does it mean that in this isekai world boardgame already exist before Main reincarnation? They actually skipped over quite a bit of the game conversation but in the novel, Ferdinand and Karstedt actually mention a game that nobles play that's similar to Chess but which utilizes mana. |
EXP3RIM said: Better this (well-paced and ready for LN-Part 3 adaptation in S4) than having still images moving left-right-up-down with elevator music playing now, just to extend runtime and have people lose interest. ouh, this is still on part 2? thought part 3 already. manga only just reached part when myne completed the binding of her first book. good to know there will be more and this is just part 2 of part 2 in LN |
| Extremely solid episode! even if there's few happenings, the script was full blown and i didn't felt sleepy! 5/5. |
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| A very disheartening episode but a great one. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Man, poor Myne, she's in a hard spot |
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| Why would they ask a homesick child, no matter how adult if she wanted 2b adopted and the be surprised when she's no? That was just stupid. |
| Poor Myne. Feeling homesick. :( The nobles truly are despicable. Things are looking to turn depressing. |
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| I knew it would not be thrown out of the window but I love how they handelled the way Myne/Mine's loneliness. Great to see a show that acknowledges the importance of a family presense. Loved the familial relationship she has with Benno as well :") |
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| Now that Myne's so close to noble society, she's racking up a lot of enemies real fast just for trying to make commoner-level books. I'm getting real nervous for her with every minute. And the jerk that scratched her last season is getting sentenced to death for his insubordination? Yikes. He definitely deserved punishment but this society goes way too far in every direction. |
Vysarine said: Now that Myne's so close to noble society, she's racking up a lot of enemies real fast just for trying to make commoner-level books. I'm getting real nervous for her with every minute. And the jerk that scratched her last season is getting sentenced to death for his insubordination? Yikes. He definitely deserved punishment but this society goes way too far in every direction. The noble society doesn't joke with insubordination towards the Lords or the Royalty. Since Myne was made a blue priestess with the Lord's agreement, him voicing his discontent about Myne being a blue robe was probably something that weighted heavier than him wounding her and putting her in danger. Especially considering that he's a knight in service of said lord, contesting his own Lord's decisions and acting on it is one of the shortest path towards execution. |
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