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Aug 5, 2019 7:33 AM
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Honestly, I kinda feel bad for Schaal this episode. She got taken as a hostage and there's not much she can really do about it.

Not to mention, there's the problem with the others that took her hostage in the first place. Seems they're the type that likes to play mind games with others. Either way, this episode got a bit violent. Oh and Cain is on another level of crazy now.
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Aug 5, 2019 8:30 AM
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So Cain's incarnate is a vampire that can manipulate other people. Quite terrifying. And Hank is turned into a beast. Poor Schaal, she got shot.

Aug 5, 2019 9:03 AM
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I did not remember this scene in the manga though so I'm interested to see where this goes
Aug 5, 2019 9:30 AM
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Damn, shit just got real.
Cain is a real savage. His facial expressions are so despicable that it makes me want to poke his damn eyes out xD
Now we got a huge werewolf on the loose.....fuck xD
Aug 5, 2019 9:42 AM
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poor Schaal...

and poor Hank for having to see a girl important to him get shot in front of him again (not sure if Schaal's what you'd call his love interest, but I guess it's safe to say that he got attached to her a bit since)

wonder where this is going
Aug 5, 2019 9:50 AM
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So Cain is using the Incarnates to start his own war and he has a little brother that is trying to stop him. Cain's speech about the war kinda reminded me about American Civil War was started for selfish reasons. The way the soldiers engaged the beast also reminded me of Attack on Titan and Hank went full beast mode after Schaal got shot.
Aug 5, 2019 9:53 AM
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Wow Hank's true beast form is very big! I mean his normal form is already big but this episode is too big to the point that I can't handle his bigness.
Aug 5, 2019 9:57 AM
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This episode covers Chp 10 of the manga with some changes for anime, including:





Aug 5, 2019 10:08 AM
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phil2288 said:
This episode covers Chp 10 of the manga with some changes for anime, including:







I don't know why they appear the centaur and werewolf
Do this mean they don't adapt thier arcs ???
Aug 5, 2019 10:10 AM
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Best episode so far
finally they arrive to good plot
Aug 5, 2019 10:27 AM
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Whoa, things sure got out of hand there.

Hank is on rampage mode now, dang the state of the town though, and Schaal in critical condition, I wonder why they didn’t finish her off properly though. I’m really curious how things will progress from here onwards too, Hank should’ve seriously thought of a plan instead of just barging into an obvious trap though especially more so given that Gargoyle worked under him so it’s natural to assume more are too.

Really liked the bit on how they emphasised on the similarities of Schaal’s and Elaine’s cases with the addition of the heartbeats in the end and the slow-mo throughout followed by Hank’s unveiling of his ‘true form’, but that was really about it to be frankly honest. Cain clearly doesn’t care about the Incarnates nor the North/South warfare or anything of that sort and just seeing him rehearse all that bull crap over and over again was seriously 😑.

Meanwhile, we’re officially introduced to Cain’s brother now who happens to be the Capt of the Beast-Massacre Squad. I expected him to be the ‘Levi’ of this Squad but boy what a disappointment he was lol. I mention Levi here because the gear really reminded me of that in the Shingeki no Kyojin world. Anyway, it seems as though Cain is a Vampire with the ability to Manipulate and Regenerate even in precarious and extraordinary circumstances. Yikes, that spear to the head though and the condition of those corpses. Well, the battle with the other incarnates was pretty average however and here’s to hoping it gets from here onwards.
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Aug 5, 2019 10:53 AM
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So in the end the trap for Gargoyle was also a trap by Cain as well. Cain's little servant seems to be the curious type. Guess bodies do present the best opportunities to find clues provided that you have the stomach for it. Seems Cain has been rather busy in town building his power base and influence among the town's rich and famous. Though i wager none of them expected that for Cain's goals that their lives were forfeited in return. Looks like Cain really does intend to become a god. The spec ops unit's intro and the effects that their gear had sure was impressive. A solid ep that had the perfect blend of action, plot development and character advancement. Its nice that Cain's motivations and character finally gets some development. The introduction of his brother as well was quite an interesting development. Now im quite curious to see what happens next ep. Though have to say i really feel sorry for Schaal here.
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Aug 5, 2019 12:04 PM
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Cain is a hell of lot smarter than Hank. He outwits him again. I wonder why they put Hank in charge back in the day.
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Aug 5, 2019 1:27 PM

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Shit went down this episode.. Schaal gets kidnapped and used as bait for Hank. Poor Hank witnesses Schaal being shot... that "King of Beasts" is big though, holy shit. I wonder how he will calm down again, otherwise he'll destroy the whole city.

Edit: Had not seen post-credit scene, seems he already did....
Aug 5, 2019 2:17 PM

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A lot of things happened this episode. I have no idea what to expect next and I like that. :p
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Aug 5, 2019 2:29 PM

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Oh shit don't tell me Hank jaz lost his soul.
Aug 5, 2019 3:16 PM

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This episode gave me serious Blood C PTSD.

Aug 5, 2019 4:03 PM

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I can’t believe they’ll let Schaal flop or Hank turn, so we’ll see how they wiggle out of this tight spot. Looks like Cain’s going to around a while.
Aug 5, 2019 4:04 PM

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I don't understand this, why doesn't Cain keep taking advantage of the rich people? If he wants to rule the country, the easiest way is to have the bourgeois on his side.
Aug 5, 2019 4:21 PM

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Good Episode and the kind of episode we needed. The s**t just got real episode that will make you intrigued as to what will happen next.

Aug 5, 2019 7:09 PM

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Oh look Schaal got shot and almost dies just like i predicted (even though I wouldn't have been surprised if she died permanently) was the ripping of her dress freaking necessary though?

Looks like Hank is out of the picture and Schaal will be useless with this new "Captain" cool I guess.
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Aug 5, 2019 7:31 PM

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The real vilain showed his intentions and his evilness level I guess. But he still forgot one important thing : aim for the head or the heart, not the god damn kidney...

At this stage - I hope the show will surprise me -, I expect Hank to go full rampage wandering in this world, being hunted by Cain's brother and his squad. Until then, Schaal who had survived the shot, appears and allows him to regain his mids & humanity. Then they team up to defeat Cain. Easy.
Aug 5, 2019 8:21 PM
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Dang! Hank turned into a tailed beast. And I think I was the only one happy when Schaal got shot (I wished she died) but hopefully she actually comes back as an actual character instead of a cardboard cutout that somehow has the ability to be extremely annoying. How do you kill a Vampire that is immortal? Cain's brother needs to step his game up because he is way out of Cain's league in combat.



Cain is good villain
Aug 5, 2019 8:24 PM

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Hank going white beast mode was actually nice, wonder where is he going though!

I felt Schaal deserved that shot from Cain, for just being useless and annoying. She will live though, pity!
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Aug 5, 2019 9:08 PM

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I think Cain's incarnate was quite obvious given his fashion style and the whole biting thing.
As for Hank, turns out he's not just a werewolf, but Fenrir which was a giant wolf chained via gleipnir.
Schaal being useless as usually and in fact detrimental to the whole situation. But she's really cute in that dress.

Interesting that the little brother's squad have freaking SMGs, flamethrowers, and goddamn Manned Maneuvering Units. I thought this was based on US Civil war lol.
Aug 5, 2019 9:15 PM

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Cain is a hell of lot smarter than Hank. He outwits him again. I wonder why they put Hank in charge back in the day.


Different type of smart. Pretty sure Hank knew it was a trap but he can't just leave Schaal anyways. On the battlefield, as the commander, he need to have quick thinking, good navigational skills, inspirational, and decisiveness.
It's less about outwitting your opponents with convoluted plans, and more about being versatile and applying the fundamentals of warfare.

For all we know, Hank might be a genius when it comes to positioning his regiment, reconnaissance and intelligence gathering. None of which applies to a hostage scenario, and criminal investigations. Well sure, recon and some other skills can be applied to kidnappings.
Even then recon and intel gathering in the military is quite different from police work. What he is doing now is more of the latter than the former.
Regardless negotiating someone out of a hostage situation isn't a field commander's forte.
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When Cain starts talking
*southern drawl* The South will rise again

Devilman is pretty much it's own genre at this point. I could probably describe this anime as more or less "steampunk Devilman"

Civil War soldiers with...jetpacks
Okay, this is kinda awesome

Interested to see where this is going.
Liza is going right into my heart next to Rangiku from Bleach

Schaal has such nice outfits, even when getting shot

The English dub had better have southern accents in it
Aug 5, 2019 11:33 PM
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When Cain starts talking
*southern drawl* The South will rise again

Devilman is pretty much it's own genre at this point. I could probably describe this anime as more or less "steampunk Devilman"

Civil War soldiers with...jetpacks
Okay, this is kinda awesome

Interested to see where this is going.
Liza is going right into my heart next to Rangiku from Bleach

Schaal has such nice outfits, even when getting shot

The English dub had better have southern accents in it


Ep was good
Best ep so far
Aug 6, 2019 12:50 AM

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The equipment of the incarnate slayers really reminds me Youjo Senki. I hope they can flay as well.

So since Hank is a more situational nighttime user he gets this super transformation? I can dig it.
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The equipment of the incarnate slayers really reminds me Youjo Senki. I hope they can flay as well.

So since Hank is a more situational nighttime user he gets this super transformation? I can dig it.


Its full transformation
Its lose his soul
Aug 6, 2019 1:37 AM
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Really curious where hank might go,isn't Cain carry him or something?? And will he go back to human form at day since his power only activated at night?
Aug 6, 2019 2:00 AM
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Really curious where hank might go,isn't Cain carry him or something?? And will he go back to human form at day since his power only activated at night?


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Cain will work with Hank
Aug 6, 2019 2:14 AM

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Impressed w/ this episode, especially in comparison to the previous five. The show has transitioned from a monster-of-the-week to a psychological anime (hopefully, if this continues), introducing a few new dynamics like the bond of brothers and Hank's trauma.

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As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
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Aug 6, 2019 3:13 AM

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Let the psychological battle party begin as the show changes its formulation from a "monster of the week" to the battle or Cain vs. Hank.

The extra character that is the commander/captain that was in the post-credits scene, seems that he was supposed to find Cain too for the same crimes committed. His brother...oh I see why.

The party esthetics got a twist from the friendly feel of the manga to the dark, somber feels of the anime. Seems like a change to fit within the story/plot of the episode. And is a change that I think that everyone should see why this adaptation is better than the manga.

Schaal became Elaine 2.0 as Cain the Vampire Incarnate shoots her down to release Hank's Incarnate seal of power. To become the King of the Beasts.

As much as I have to say, this went from shit to real f***ing terror within a blink of an eye. What an episode, mostly original content (but linking back to the manga) but really, better than expected upon building the past 5 episodes.
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Schaal get shot. I hope she can recover. ><
Kain is so OP.. splitting his head and obliterating his upper body isn't enough to kill him.

Hank fighting his former comrades alone, good thing some soldiers arrive to help. Also did not know Hank has a badass giant wolf form.
Aug 6, 2019 4:53 AM

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Dang things got spicy in this ep, Hank went Kurama mode white ver. This is one of the more interesting ep in this series. Entertaining back and forth battle as well.
Cain is one sadistic smart asshole, how was he not the captain lol.
Aug 6, 2019 8:11 AM
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Hank going beast mode yeee feelsbad for Schaal though
Aug 6, 2019 9:01 AM
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I just realized that this show is pretty shit.
Aug 6, 2019 9:26 AM
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I just realized that this show is pretty shit.
ClickBaitBuster said:
I just realized that this show is pretty shit.


Why ?
Ep was good
What your problem with it
Aug 6, 2019 10:15 AM

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This is probably the best episode so far. I enjoyed the fight and drama
Aug 6, 2019 10:49 AM

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Wow didnt see that coming at all.Schaal getting shot and Hank going berserk after seeing that was both unexpected events. Surely Schaal will survive but the ques is what will happen with Hank now.
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ClickBaitBuster said:
I just realized that this show is pretty shit.
ClickBaitBuster said:
I just realized that this show is pretty shit.


Why ?
Ep was good
What your problem with it
Hank and the other incarnates made a promise to kill whoever lose control over his body, but that Elaine chick betrays them and conspires with Cain to kill them before that, starting with Hank, whom she apparently doesn't trust that much despite supposedly being in love with him, but she does trust Cain, because apparently he is the only one who would gladly accept to die since he values the greater good more than his own life, unlike Hank and the other incarnates who can't be trusted and should be stabbed in the back and killed by a surprise attack. But nope, the only one she trusted was the one to betray her, Based Cain Madhouse delivers.
I hope you realized where I'm getting at, in a nutshell, Elaine fucking sucks, she's the last one who should kill those incarnates because she's the one who created them without taking any countermeasures to prevent them from turning into mindless monsters; she should've went along with Hank plan instead of whatever retarded shit she was trying to do.

All the above shit (which was in ep1) wouldn't have bothered me so much if Hank got over the backstabber right after that, but he kept mourning her and projecting her image onto the loli whose name is Schaal I believe, which is annoying af.

But in the other hand, that makes some sense, Because Schaal sucks as much as Elaine, she has no fucking reason to still follow Hank or even hate him at this point, she should've realized that he did nothing wrong the moment she knew the thing about the incarnates losing control, her only purpose is getting in the way and being incredibly stupid, as shown in this eps and the previous one.

Speaking of this eps, it was all over the place, namely Hank stupidly attacking Cain with his spear despite supposedly knowing that he's a vampire with ultra regenerating ability, and the spider thot telling Schaal that she's a bait to make Hank come when in reality, searching for Cain is what Hank was doing this whole time and he doesn't need any fucking bait to go to whatever place he's in. And what about making her wear a dress when she didn't even attend the party, and killing her 2 mins after appearing-.. wait she didn't die? THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF KILLING HER???!!! AND WHY THE FUCK DID HANK JUST FUCK OFF AFTER TRANSFORMING TO HIS FINAL FORM?? DIDN'T HE TRANSFORM TO KICK CAIN'S ASS IN THE FIRST PLACE??? WHAT'S THE FUCKING POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOINT?????!!!!!!!!!!
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I wonder what chapter this anime is going to be?
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ClickBaitBuster said:
ziad1419 said:


Why ?
Ep was good
What your problem with it
Hank and the other incarnates made a promise to kill whoever lose control over his body, but that Elaine chick betrays them and conspires with Cain to kill them before that, starting with Hank, whom she apparently doesn't trust that much despite supposedly being in love with him, but she does trust Cain, because apparently he is the only one who would gladly accept to die since he values the greater good more than his own life, unlike Hank and the other incarnates who can't be trusted and should be stabbed in the back and killed by a surprise attack. But nope, the only one she trusted was the one to betray her, Based Cain Madhouse delivers.
I hope you realized where I'm getting at, in a nutshell, Elaine fucking sucks, she's the last one who should kill those incarnates because she's the one who created them without taking any countermeasures to prevent them from turning into mindless monsters; she should've went along with Hank plan instead of whatever retarded shit she was trying to do.

All the above shit (which was in ep1) wouldn't have bothered me so much if Hank got over the backstabber right after that, but he kept mourning her and projecting her image onto the loli whose name is Schaal I believe, which is annoying af.

But in the other hand, that makes some sense, Because Schaal sucks as much as Elaine, she has no fucking reason to still follow Hank or even hate him at this point, she should've realized that he did nothing wrong the moment she knew the thing about the incarnates losing control, her only purpose is getting in the way and being incredibly stupid, as shown in this eps and the previous one.

Speaking of this eps, it was all over the place, namely Hank stupidly attacking Cain with his spear despite supposedly knowing that he's a vampire with ultra regenerating ability, and the spider thot telling Schaal that she's a bait to make Hank come when in reality, searching for Cain is what Hank was doing this whole time and he doesn't need any fucking bait to go to whatever place he's in. And what about making her wear a dress when she didn't even attend the party, and killing her 2 mins after appearing-.. wait she didn't die? THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF KILLING HER???!!! AND WHY THE FUCK DID HANK JUST FUCK OFF AFTER TRANSFORMING TO HIS FINAL FORM?? DIDN'T HE TRANSFORM TO KICK CAIN'S ASS IN THE FIRST PLACE??? WHAT'S THE FUCKING POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOINT?????!!!!!!!!!!


I agree that Elaine and Nancy suck. I think Hank was still mourning Elaine because he was in love with her ever since they were kids and lived in the orphanage together. She did some fucked up things, but he can't stop how he feels exactly. He doesn't even show it physically, it's just in his head and heart which is understandable because that dude has been through a lot. His situation is confusing and he most likely doesn't know how to exactly feel yet.

I don't think he's projecting Elaine's image onto Schaal, but because of how similar they look Schaal just REMINDS him of Elaine. Especially the fact that she literally died the almost exact same way Elaine did (method and person), he can't help but feel like he's seeing Elaine's death all over again.

Schaal is annoying though, she better get some development soon or imma start yelling at her to get off the screen. I'm pretty sure she follows Hank because she just wants to understand. But Hank already told her everything and why her dad had to die, so why is she still here? Maybe she wants to help him now? I have no clue.

I'm pretty sure the whole setup with Nancy at the end was to trigger Hank's true beast form, which he has no control over. Cain killed Nancy just like he killed Elaine because he knew Hank was travelling with her and coincidentally, she looks just like Elaine. He most likely simulated her death like that right in front of Hank to trigger him, and he most likely ran off because he has no control over his true beast form. We saw the visuals of the chains breaking inside Hank, which is an indicator he was either holding back on his real form because he can't control it or had no clue it even existed altogether. Now he's just a rampaging beast which is what Cain exactly wanted. For what reason, we don't know yet.
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That regeneration scene after Cain's upper half was pulverized was so poorly done it was almost laughable rather than tense. Other than that, at least the show manages to keep me interested, for now.
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Oof this episode was really good... better than before. Was planning on dropping the anime if it kept on going with the same plot but damn this episode made me regret thinking that. Cain was on a whole other level...he's on my 'villains I like' list. Poor Schaal couldn't do anything coz she was taken as a hostage. Sad that she got shot which in turn made Hank go all cray cray and now there is a giant werewolf on the loose. Looks like Cain got what he wanted from Hank.

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The best episode, so far. What a shocking and surprising end. I never imagined that Hank's werewolf had a supreme form. It was incredible!
Damn Cain! Bastard! How dare you shoot Schaal? That monster has no scruples.

A werewolf vs a vampire ... Van Helsing? Where? Hahaha.
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-That spider molestation scene was definitely unexpected.
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-It was interesting to hear more about the lore of the war. It also explains a lot of the military hate that I found confusing in the last episode.
-It would have been interesting to see a proper alliance between those people and the Incarnates. It's a shame they went down the predictable path.
-An Incarnate-only world doesn't seem practical from any standpoint. We know that being an Incarnate isn't genetic, or at least, that can be heavily inferred. There also doesn't seem to be enough Incarnates in the first place. In the end, an alliance would have easily made more sense. I don't see the villain's ideals here.
-That death would have been pretty solid (shot through the abdomen + "thunder spear"), but who did they think they were fooling? Anyone could have seen that false death from a mile away. They're not going to kill off the main villain 6 episodes into a 12 episode show.
-Why was Hank THIS upset about Schaal dying? Their quickly developed relationship hasn't made a single shred of sense through this entire show. And don't come at me with "It reminded him of Elaine" crap.
-I think they're definitely going to asspull when it comes to Schaal's death. I will be very disappointed if that ends up being the case.

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So Cain is using the Incarnates to start his own war and he has a little brother that is trying to stop him. Cain's speech about the war kinda reminded me about American Civil War was started for selfish reasons. The way the soldiers engaged the beast also reminded me of Attack on Titan and Hank went full beast mode after Schaal got shot.


There's a LOT of stuff in this anime that reminds me of Attack On Titan, haha. Like those Thunder Spear-esque things. I'm not sure which show did it first in the manga though.

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Damn Cain, how despicable. Things sure escalated quickly this time.

Being honest, this episode was actually kinda decent. Definitely better than the previous five ones. Hank going beast mode felt a bit forced tho. Especially since his relationship with Schaal is everything but close. But that said, I guess I can let it pass since his outburst was most likely due to him recalling his trauma with Elaine.

Other than that, it was another average episode but with some good moments. Now, let's see where the story will go from here. I can honestly see Schaal surviving, finding Hank and convincing him to stop his rampage with some power of love/friendship/whatever so I only hope it can be handled in a somewhat decent way.
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