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Jul 12, 2019 1:33 PM
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Hey guys is it true that this guy marries his demon girl when she becomes adult in the manga/ln?
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Jul 12, 2019 11:24 PM
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Jisrat_Hasan said:
Hey guys is it true that this guy marries his demon girl when she becomes adult in the manga/ln?


I haven't read the source material, but from what I gather that seems to be the case. I'm holding out for now and am hoping they'll do an anime original ending (include a time skip and everything that shows it definitively ended) and it's less...pervy.
Jul 14, 2019 8:09 AM
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well shit I haven't watch this show yet but that's so wrong..this is like usagi drop all over again
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Jul 14, 2019 1:33 PM
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Pro tip:Learn to differentiate between reality and fiction, otherwise I am worried about your mental health
Jul 16, 2019 8:22 PM
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Just found out about this shit....God, sometimes I just hate Japan lol
Jul 17, 2019 1:48 AM
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I haven't read the light novels but fuck no am I gonna judge an anime from the light novel cover art that people are sharing like wild fire. Wait until the anime is done before you complain about the direction.
Jul 17, 2019 8:20 AM
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rather than father and daughter, she sees him more as a male adult rather than a fatherly figure. The LN had a great section on him learning to also change his view of seeing her as a woman rather than a daughter
Jul 17, 2019 6:28 PM
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Why am I not surprised? TT__TT

Here I thought he was going to raise her as a daughter but instead he grooms her into his wife.

I'll still finish it, I'm hoping it will be omitted from the Anime.
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Jul 17, 2019 10:56 PM
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First of all she's not her adopted daughter, he's her guardian. Also unlike Usagi drop the age difference is not huge. Lastly if you don't like the show, you know what can you do ? Just stop watching and don't try to push your opinions on others. This not just directed towards OP.
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Jul 18, 2019 11:53 AM
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Not as bad as usagi drop though considering the guy is like 40 years old but the little girl in this is a demon and grows pretty fast apparently and also I heard Dale gets
a longer lifespan .. no clue how that works
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By the way, people here saying "demon girl" all the time. Latina is not a demon but a devil. Demons and devils are separate things in their world. Every race can become a demon in addition to their original race.



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Pro tip:Learn to differentiate between reality and fiction, otherwise I am worried about your mental health


This is far more realistic than you realize, especially when the adopted child is beyond the age of around 5 and knows their parents.

This actually happens more than people think, even in the west, it mainly gained it's stigma over the last 40 years because a certain actor is implied to try to invoke this specifically, this happened alot even back in the 40's.

While i get why it bothers people and tbh it does me to an extent in some works, it in fact existed and still exists for a reason, that said if the anime is taking the path the manga took (haven't read the ln), they make it fairly obvious if you pay attention to it that latina does not view dale as her father figure, i think the biggest problem with this kind of story is they never explain how they come to that point, i remember a miniseries from 1982 that dealt with something similar to this, and the male character (good 20 years senior) takes a very long time to come to terms with it, i believe she's in her mid 20's before he finally does, the problem these stories have is they never explain these extremely trying and difficult hurdles people have to go through to end up in such a relationship, so that it comes off as forced and disturbing.

That said this series is a bit better at it because again, latina never makes any hint at viewing dale as a father figure, though she does have a strong attachment to him.

Again i get why people get bothered by these things, but i think people are looking at it from a very current, western view, which ironically, is a product of recent times and current stigmas, something that in fact like it or not, many of your ancestors may have in fact been involved in, it's also worth pointing out that one of the requirements for "wife husbandry" is that the adult is trying to invoke this, not only does dale not act in such a way, he doesn't view her as anything but his adoptive daughter for a very, very long time.
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Also this isn't completely unheard of to reverse the genders on this, generally speaking a orphan sometimes was "married" to a widower or widow so that they could have stability instead of ending up in things like crime or brothels, with a intention of it never ending up like this, only for it to develop over the years, so this is in fact, one of the oldest things in existence to happen, there are even hints of this in the christian bible of being the situation between mary and joseph, mainly due to jewish law on age of consent (hence the virgin birth) and joseph possibly being too old at that point to do anything.

I am somewhat torn on this from a age perspective, but by the time it happens in this series,both dale and latina are well passed that hurdle for it to bother me, again i get why it does bother some, but i think many need to look at it from a cultural norm issue.
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They have a 10-12 yr age gap, that's not that big you know, what are you guys all freaking out about. I know many people irl who married someone 10 years younger or older.
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That is the case for the source material. I do not really mind this outcome though since it is fiction, and it does not really take place until the character gets older. They have no blood relation.
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this is why we need to nuke the west fandom
not getting the appeal of an ancient works that existed since the thousand of yrs ago and is only reall a stigma cause some idiot actor sucked and failed
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That is the case for the source material. I do not really mind this outcome though since it is fiction, and it does not really take place until the character gets older. They have no blood relation.

Oh for fuck's sake... When will people stop using this shitty argument? Yeah it's fiction - so it's not supposed to have a reaction? Dear lord it's so stupid.

They just keep doing it - if a relation is not a sexual one - it's inferior. What is wrong with a father-daughter relation or friendship or whatever. Why does everyone have to turn into a couple... It makes me sick. Honestly - a brain of someone who did that is trully a rotten one. Blood relation doesn't matter, age doesn't matter - what matters is that they spend many years being in a specific fatherly relation and... actually - if I have to explain this, it's already a lost cause.
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Oh for fuck's sake... When will people stop using this shitty argument? Yeah it's fiction - so it's not supposed to have a reaction? Dear lord it's so stupid.

They just keep doing it - if a relation is not a sexual one - it's inferior. What is wrong with a father-daughter relation or friendship or whatever. Why does everyone have to turn into a couple... It makes me sick. Honestly - a brain of someone who did that is trully a rotten one. Blood relation doesn't matter, age doesn't matter - what matters is that they spend many years being in a specific fatherly relation and... actually - if I have to explain this, it's already a lost cause.

I think it's a bad argument too, because I think it's fine in reality as well. Not everything other people do or feel to be happy has to be accepted by everyone. As long as it's ok to all the people involved, that's all that counts, to me anyway.
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Lol this is like Princess Maker games.
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People go crazy over inecet in anime yet I bet most of them love game of thrones though. And when I say incest I mean what GOT does not the oh I have feelings for a relative which isn't real incest
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Goddammit Japan,not again. You already did this with usagi drop...

The whole "I don't care because it is fiction" argument is bullshit. Just because it's fiction doesn't mean anything goes. If you don't care about it because it's fiction,why do you watch anime anyways? Enjoying anime requires you to get into the story and get attached to the characters,so that anything that happens in the story and to the characters matters to you.That way if something bad happens to a character,you feel sad too. If you say "it's just fiction so it doesn't matter" can't you say the same with everything else? Why feel sad when your favourite character dies in an anime? It's just fiction,after all. It's not like actually happened. Why feel happy when something good happens in an anime?Why feel bad when something bad happens? It's just fiction,it's not real.Why even watch anime? It's just fiction.It's not real.

I know they are not blood related and the age gap isn't great,but that's not the problem here. The problem is they have a father-daughter relationship. Literally everyone who watches this anime does it because they want to watch an anime with a wholesome father-daughter relation.

And this is because the anime itself gives that impression. It's in the name of the goddamn anime, uchimusume, musume means daughter in japanese. And the translated whole name is "If it's for my daughter I will even defeat a demon lord".
Well these names are in the synonyms and not the actual name, so maybe the creators did not intend it to be called that,who knows.But it did give me the wrong impression.

A youtuber with name of Teeaboo reacted to this series' first episode and called Latina "daughteroo" which is like the word "waifu" except for daughter.Even before starting the episode he said he knows it is about a father-daughter relationship.There was a post on myanimelist aswell,asking for more anime with father-daughter relationships like uchimusume. Every excepts a father-daughter relationship, and they give us that for while,and later on they just go "oh now they are gonna marry and f*ck each other for the rest of their lives." It just feels like they are betraying everyone's feelings who watch the anime.It's like saying father-daughter relationships don't matter, only those relationships matter where you can f*ck the other person, and we are going to make everything about it.Only a pervert and immature person thinks up a story like this.And it's happened not once,but TWICE,which shows that there is a problem with Japan.

I'm really pissed at the source material and people defending this because "it's just fiction,it's not real" or "it's okay because they are not blood related and the age gape is minor" isn't helping me at all.

I'll probably still watch the anime though.
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Yes, because its fiction that means anything goes, applying laws and morals to fiction would completely destroy it.
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AnimeTiddies134 said:

And this is because the anime itself gives that impression. It's in the name of the goddamn anime, uchimusume, musume means daughter in japanese. And the translated whole name is "If it's for my daughter I will even defeat a demon lord".
Well these names are in the synonyms and not the actual name, so maybe the creators did not intend it to be called that,who knows.But it did give me the wrong impression.

So what? You had different expectations from a title, it happens...
Apparently you found out well ahead of time that this isn't something you're gonna enjoy before you became emotionally invested. If you had followed it for years and then it happened, I could somewhat understand (although it's really pretty obvious that Latina does not see Dale as a father at all, it's even clearer in the LN of course).

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Only a pervert and immature person thinks up a story like this.And it's happened not once,but TWICE,which shows that there is a problem with Japan.

Oh god no! Twice?! :O
I'm pretty sure there's even more than 2 of those kind of stories out there. ;)
I don't mind by the way. To each their own. Don't see a problem with Japan here. (if we wanna talk about problems in Japan, then workers' rights should be at the top in my opinion)

AnimeTiddies134 said:

I'm really pissed at the source material and people defending this because "it's just fiction,it's not real" or "it's okay because they are not blood related and the age gape is minor" isn't helping me at all.

I'll probably still watch the anime though.

I for one am not defending it "because it's fiction". I'm defending it because I think it's absolutely ok in reality as well.
People should be able to find happiness with whomever they want as long as both (or more if it's polygamus) parties in the relationship want to be in this relationship. That does not mean though that I condone active "grooming" of children, that's a whole different thing! If anything, in this story it's Latina that does the grooming. It takes years of effort to get Dale to change how he feels about her.


Btw, I find it a bit funny how you call other people perverts (which I don't even see as something inherently bad XD) but call yourself "AnimeTiddies". XD
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I don't understand why it matters, since the stigma surrounding incest only exists because of the negative effects of inbreeding (mainly first degree inbreeding). They're not blood related.

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Pro tip:Learn to differentiate between reality and fiction, otherwise I am worried about your mental health

This actually happens more than people think, even in the west, it mainly gained it's stigma over the last 40 years because a certain actor is implied to try to invoke this specifically, this happened alot even back in the 40's.

Which actor?
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Escaethorne said:
I don't understand why it matters, since the stigma surrounding incest only exists because of the negative effects of inbreeding (mainly first degree inbreeding). They're not blood related.

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This actually happens more than people think, even in the west, it mainly gained it's stigma over the last 40 years because a certain actor is implied to try to invoke this specifically, this happened alot even back in the 40's.

Which actor?


The one that really started this was woody allen, he basically was having sex with her while still married to the adopted mother, this is also more of a complete case of wife-husbandry as it seems very likely he probably coached her into this, to this day i can't stand that scumbag (for extra squick, it's likely he was sleeping with her before she was of age, but he was so powerful at the time he got away with it).

On a side note, not going to get into any fights about this, but i don't support incest, though i have no idea what that has to do with this topic.
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Tatsuya said:
Escaethorne said:
I don't understand why it matters, since the stigma surrounding incest only exists because of the negative effects of inbreeding (mainly first degree inbreeding). They're not blood related.


Which actor?


The one that really started this was woody allen, he basically was having sex with her while still married to the adopted mother, this is also more of a complete case of wife-husbandry as it seems very likely he probably coached her into this, to this day i can't stand that scumbag (for extra squick, it's likely he was sleeping with her before she was of age, but he was so powerful at the time he got away with it).

On a side note, not going to get into any fights about this, but i don't support incest, though i have no idea what that has to do with this topic.

That part was just a broad statement towards people in this thread complaining about the father/daughter relationship become something more.

As for woody allen, can't say I'm fond of him, but can't say I care about what he was accused of either. The Japanese currently have a more level-headed view on such matters, though that's severely started to change in favour of a more western morality.
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AnimeTiddies134 said:

And this is because the anime itself gives that impression. It's in the name of the goddamn anime, uchimusume, musume means daughter in japanese. And the translated whole name is "If it's for my daughter I will even defeat a demon lord".
Well these names are in the synonyms and not the actual name, so maybe the creators did not intend it to be called that,who knows.But it did give me the wrong impression.

So what? You had different expectations from a title, it happens...
Apparently you found out well ahead of time that this isn't something you're gonna enjoy before you became emotionally invested. If you had followed it for years and then it happened, I could somewhat understand (although it's really pretty obvious that Latina does not see Dale as a father at all, it's even clearer in the LN of course).

AnimeTiddies134 said:
Only a pervert and immature person thinks up a story like this.And it's happened not once,but TWICE,which shows that there is a problem with Japan.

Oh god no! Twice?! :O
I'm pretty sure there's even more than 2 of those kind of stories out there. ;)
I don't mind by the way. To each their own. Don't see a problem with Japan here. (if we wanna talk about problems in Japan, then workers' rights should be at the top in my opinion)

AnimeTiddies134 said:

I'm really pissed at the source material and people defending this because "it's just fiction,it's not real" or "it's okay because they are not blood related and the age gape is minor" isn't helping me at all.

I'll probably still watch the anime though.

I for one am not defending it "because it's fiction". I'm defending it because I think it's absolutely ok in reality as well.
People should be able to find happiness with whomever they want as long as both (or more if it's polygamus) parties in the relationship want to be in this relationship. That does not mean though that I condone active "grooming" of children, that's a whole different thing! If anything, in this story it's Latina that does the grooming. It takes years of effort to get Dale to change how he feels about her.


Btw, I find it a bit funny how you call other people perverts (which I don't even see as something inherently bad XD) but call yourself "AnimeTiddies". XD

I think the problem is that I like watching shows with cute father daughter relationships and search for anime that are like that. Yet the first time I did,with Usagi Drop, the guy ended up banging his daughter figure. Then it happened here again. When you have a story about an adult adopting a young girl who is seven years old,everyone thinks it is about a cute father-daughter relationship.No one thinks "oh a cute romance where the mc takes care of the girl until she's old enough to bang". I want to watch anime with father-daughter relations but not many of them are out there,I've found four and two of them ended up banging their daughter figure when she got old,so you can understand why I would get pissed at this.
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Goddamnit! Another anime killed cause of the heavy grooming vibes, its just hard for me to just ignore it....
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Recent episode showed that Kenneth is more father figure than Dale.
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People go crazy over inecet in anime yet I bet most of them love game of thrones though. And when I say incest I mean what GOT does not the oh I have feelings for a relative which isn't real incest


But are you aware that in GoT incest are still considered bad and they are showing effect of inbreeding? Characters even use excuses like "a few centuries ago it was consider normal" and "stigma" of current times (sounds familiar?).

overall, I will watch this series until they start showing their affection to each other.
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AnimeTiddies134 said:
I want to watch anime with father-daughter relations but not many of them are out there,I've found four and two of them ended up banging their daughter figure when she got old,so you can understand why I would get pissed at this.


Could you give titles of these anime you mentioned if I can ask?
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- Spy x Family (Ch.112/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.201/? - weekly)
- MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.116/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.21/? - biweekly)
- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly)
- Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly)
Anime recommendation:
- Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished)
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Usagi Drop
Aishiteruze Baby
Amaama to Inazuma
and this one UchiMusume

The thing that I was complaining about happens in Usagi Drop but it happens later in the manga,not in the anime.Still ruined everything though.
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AnimeTiddies134 said:

I think the problem is that I like watching shows with cute father daughter relationships and search for anime that are like that. Yet the first time I did,with Usagi Drop, the guy ended up banging his daughter figure. Then it happened here again. When you have a story about an adult adopting a young girl who is seven years old,everyone thinks it is about a cute father-daughter relationship.No one thinks "oh a cute romance where the mc takes care of the girl until she's old enough to bang". I want to watch anime with father-daughter relations but not many of them are out there,I've found four and two of them ended up banging their daughter figure when she got old,so you can understand why I would get pissed at this.


The more pertinent question is why do you as a viewer prefer watching shows with "cute father daughter relationships" or why do you like such a dynamic?

The whole "I don't care because it is fiction" argument is bullshit. Just because it's fiction doesn't mean anything goes. If you don't care about it because it's fiction,why do you watch anime anyways? Enjoying anime requires you to get into the story and get attached to the characters,so that anything that happens in the story and to the characters matters to you.That way if something bad happens to a character,you feel sad too. If you say "it's just fiction so it doesn't matter" can't you say the same with everything else? Why feel sad when your favourite character dies in an anime? It's just fiction,after all. It's not like actually happened. Why feel happy when something good happens in an anime?Why feel bad when something bad happens? It's just fiction,it's not real.Why even watch anime? It's just fiction.It's not real.


It is because that is not how the argument works.

You forgot that one bit regarding fiction, i.e. since none of it is real, a person can place any form of emphasis on any particular aspect of the show (anything: tits, ass, murder,violence, dumb/cucky harem hoes, badass main characters, pathetic main characters, bad endings, happy endings etc etc). It is not same for everyone. Much like how you prefer watching "cute father daughter relationships" there will be a bunch who will enjoy seeing the father/daughter murder each other instead in a twisted ending ( or whatever floats their boat ). They don't care because they get to see outlandish acts in fiction. You can additionally apply this entire logic to how you (if you play video games) have no qualms murdering a bunch of people and proceed to steal their items.

That is the whole point of fiction. Anything can exist in it as long as there's a market for it. As a viewer, unfortunately your best bet is to keep looking for other stuff to come out since you don't have control over what arrives in the market.
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Ight to add some context and info for all of those who are really confused and wondering why this is technically alright.

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Ight to add some context and info for all of those who are really confused and wondering why this is technically alright.



It's the double standard of the current world, same reason why a 40 year old female teacher can molest a 13 year old and people will claim he must have loved it, or how men can also be abused by their female spouse but if he goes to the police people will call him a coward, etc.

Reminds me of the reason that around 80% of suicides are men.
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While I do not like this kind of ending I will say is neither incest or grooming. We could go on why a relation between a person and adopted child is or is not incest but in the story is not the case. Dale does not really adopt Latina. If you pay attention (not sure how well is translated in anime) he does not adopt her rather he becomes her legal guardian. There is a small difference but historically is important. A legal guardian simple gets some authority over the child until it becomes and adult and is responsible for it in front of the law. An interesting factoid is that the reason why traditionally the wife takes the last name of the husband is because the husband becomes her new legal guardian. So no incest as he ceases being her legal guardian when she comes of age around 14-16 depending on the legal system in that country.
About the grooming part grooming involves an intention from the adult to have a relation with the child when it comes at age. This does not happen here. In fact Latina is the one that initiates things. She starts as seeing him as a friend and apparently in this episode she already thinks about getting married to Dale, of course thinking only to the non sexual parts because she is still a child but still. Remember she calls him her special someone. About the age difference it never was a problem before feminism brought the retarded idea men and women are the same. Female fertility starts from the first period to around 30 something . For men lasts until they die if they take care of themselves. So if the man had a comfortable life and sufficient funds there was no problem with an older man marrying a young girl. In case of poor people of course both married as young as they could because life was hard and the chances for children to not reach adulthood where big. So making as many as they could and as fast and being able to raise them to adulthood from their current funds was important as they had no savings.
Still a bit annoying as story goes but perfectly ok from a moral pov
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Mattinator95 said:
People go crazy over inecet in anime yet I bet most of them love game of thrones though. And when I say incest I mean what GOT does not the oh I have feelings for a relative which isn't real incest


But are you aware that in GoT incest are still considered bad and they are showing effect of inbreeding? Characters even use excuses like "a few centuries ago it was consider normal" and "stigma" of current times (sounds familiar?).

overall, I will watch this series until they start showing their affection to each other.
The incest thing was started by the inbreeding thing and as time went on and genetic errors accumulated the definition of incest changed. From siblings being able to marry to half siblings (Abraham time) to cousins (Moses) to second cousins (middle ages) to 7th-9th relative link now.
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Werchiel said:
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That is the case for the source material. I do not really mind this outcome though since it is fiction, and it does not really take place until the character gets older. They have no blood relation.

Oh for fuck's sake... When will people stop using this shitty argument? Yeah it's fiction - so it's not supposed to have a reaction? Dear lord it's so stupid.

The real reason is that they like the concept, the anime pander to those who want to self-insert into Dale and "raise" their daughter into the perfect wife, but of course they are not going to write they want to fuck their daughter-wife.

I wonder if they'd use the "It's just fictioooooooooon" argument when something they disapprove happens in an anime, like NTR, Yaoi or Yuri or a couple not getting together lolol.
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Oh cool, I remember how they did this in Bastard!!
Now that's a good series to draw inspiration from.


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While a lot of people may not like this kind of ending, I think one of the things we need to first consider is that you can just blindly go "god damnit japan", because it's not exactly Japan's fault. If you would like to blame, you would blame the author. That being said, while you may have developed some sort of affection for a younger individual and established a parent-child relationship (PCR), not all relationships proceed in a sunshine and rainbow route - some dissolve as the characters grow older, some on another "extreme" proceeds to what we see as this or Usagi Drop's ending. Just because you perceive it as a PCR, doesn't mean your "child" does, and neither does the author. If Latina never had any intention of being with Dale, this "incestuous" relationship would never bear fruit. Stories and relationships between characters are written with intent, and unfortunately the outcome may not fit your tastes, just like how in utilitarian ideology you can make 51% of the world happy but 49% of the world unhappy - you just cannot please anyone else.
Alright maybe it doesn't float your boat, but that doesn't mean you give it shit - the beginning of the story where there was "development of a PCR" did appeal to you, so be happy with that part of the material. The author delivered what you wanted. The ending gave you something you didn't want, but take it with a grain of salt. Respect this author as he had given you the good things you wanted in the beginning of the manga. You need not like it, or agree with it, but you shouldn't just steadfastly reject another's opinion or idea just because it doesn't float your boat. Yes, I'm not too in favour of this kind of relationship, but that doesn't mean that the source material is bad. Furthermore, just because we in the west view this more harshly or negatively, doesn't mean that it is bad. Maybe we don't understand the cultural background, the intent, or even the life experience of the author.
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Jul 25, 2019 4:43 PM

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Pit93 said:
By the way, people here saying "demon girl" all the time. Latina is not a demon but a devil. Demons and devils are separate things in their world. Every race can become a demon in addition to their original race.



Spoilers ahead:

Latina BECOMES a demon lord at some point in the story though and Dale wants her to turn him into one as well (which she then does). That is also the reason for their extended life spans from that point on. It's more like immortality until someone kills them, which is somewhat unlikely considering how OP Dale is.


Damn man. I hope to see it animated.
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But does it really matter?
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Jul 26, 2019 1:27 AM

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Ight to add some context and info for all of those who are really confused and wondering why this is technically alright.


Hmm..this clears it up a lot more. I thought they both saw and treated each other as a daughter-father figures before going all "fuck it, let's bang". I guess if people don't know about this will continue losing their shit and that has more to do with appearances instead of context.
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Werchiel said:

Oh for fuck's sake... When will people stop using this shitty argument? Yeah it's fiction - so it's not supposed to have a reaction? Dear lord it's so stupid.

The real reason is that they like the concept, the anime pander to those who want to self-insert into Dale and "raise" their daughter into the perfect wife, but of course they are not going to write they want to fuck their daughter-wife.

I wonder if they'd use the "It's just fictioooooooooon" argument when something they disapprove happens in an anime, like NTR, Yaoi or Yuri or a couple not getting together lolol.

Fuckin' A. But that's just scary. True but scary.
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nightcrawlercyp said:
Still a bit annoying as story goes but perfectly ok from a moral pov

Best not generalize what constitutes as “moral” as it tends to have different shades across cultures let alone individual people. Your reasons for why this doesn’t cross any lines to you maybe enough to hold your inhibitions from watching this anime but for some it still wreaks of grooming vibes. Works like “Tales of Genji” are quite popular in Japan if you have read Genji you will see why ending like the ones in this anime are popular. Not that the West doesn’t have its fair share of stories like it but I guess they just aren’t as popular.
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Bernrika said:
Werchiel said:

Oh for fuck's sake... When will people stop using this shitty argument? Yeah it's fiction - so it's not supposed to have a reaction? Dear lord it's so stupid.

The real reason is that they like the concept, the anime pander to those who want to self-insert into Dale and "raise" their daughter into the perfect wife, but of course they are not going to write they want to fuck their daughter-wife.

I wonder if they'd use the "It's just fictioooooooooon" argument when something they disapprove happens in an anime, like NTR, Yaoi or Yuri or a couple not getting together lolol.

Or people just don't care, like they did with Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu S2.
Don't forget to add anime with murders as well. :D
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DjangoUnchained2 said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
Still a bit annoying as story goes but perfectly ok from a moral pov

Best not generalize what constitutes as “moral” as it tends to have different shades across cultures let alone individual people. Your reasons for why this doesn’t cross any lines to you maybe enough to hold your inhibitions from watching this anime but for some it still wreaks of grooming vibes. Works like “Tales of Genji” are quite popular in Japan if you have read Genji you will see why ending like the ones in this anime are popular. Not that the West doesn’t have its fair share of stories like it but I guess they just aren’t as popular.

My reasoning is a bit more complex but I did not see a reason to write wall text. Reasoning why it does not cross lines is because it cannot cause genetic trouble down the line. I explained why is not grooming but you removed that part from the quote. Not gonna repeat. About Genji tales I do not know or care
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Bernrika said:
Werchiel said:

Oh for fuck's sake... When will people stop using this shitty argument? Yeah it's fiction - so it's not supposed to have a reaction? Dear lord it's so stupid.

The real reason is that they like the concept, the anime pander to those who want to self-insert into Dale and "raise" their daughter into the perfect wife, but of course they are not going to write they want to fuck their daughter-wife.

I wonder if they'd use the "It's just fictioooooooooon" argument when something they disapprove happens in an anime, like NTR, Yaoi or Yuri or a couple not getting together lolol.


Lol , youre so dumb to not get anything at all
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Djidji said:
Bernrika said:

The real reason is that they like the concept, the anime pander to those who want to self-insert into Dale and "raise" their daughter into the perfect wife, but of course they are not going to write they want to fuck their daughter-wife.

I wonder if they'd use the "It's just fictioooooooooon" argument when something they disapprove happens in an anime, like NTR, Yaoi or Yuri or a couple not getting together lolol.

Or people just don't care, like they did with Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu S2.

People cared about it in Rakugo? Which wasn't marked as "Daughter fucking" LN anyway. In fact it was a last minute, ill received twist...


Don't forget to add anime with murders as well. :D

What anime that encourages existing the house and murdering people indiscriminately are you watching?
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Bernrika said:
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Or people just don't care, like they did with Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu S2.

People cared about it in Rakugo? Which wasn't marked as "Daughter fucking" LN anyway.

And so is this one, no?

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Don't forget to add anime with murders as well. :D

What anime that encourages existing the house and murdering people indiscriminately are you watching?

Afaik this show doesn't encourage it as well (and it seems to happen at the end?), though you can find series with hitmans. Or how about Lupin III? How about the number of favourites for Light in Death Note? Black Laggoon, Noir, (the US serie) Dexter (talk about pandering to those who got murdering intents), Hellsing (?).
How about shows like MadoMagi III?

Otherwise, for your example, one may hate NTR, Yaoi or Yuri, but it's not him who will be NTR'ed.
No wonder the manga Berserk is so hated. Oh wait...
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AnimeTiddies134 said:

I think the problem is that I like watching shows with cute father daughter relationships and search for anime that are like that. Yet the first time I did,with Usagi Drop, the guy ended up banging his daughter figure. Then it happened here again. When you have a story about an adult adopting a young girl who is seven years old,everyone thinks it is about a cute father-daughter relationship.No one thinks "oh a cute romance where the mc takes care of the girl until she's old enough to bang". I want to watch anime with father-daughter relations but not many of them are out there,I've found four and two of them ended up banging their daughter figure when she got old,so you can understand why I would get pissed at this.

I can totally understand it, I just don't like it when people start to pull an entire thing down because of that. :)

To maybe help you get at least something positive out of this experience, I could recommend you 2 other series (LightNovels though, don't know if that's your thing), with adopted daughters and a nice relationship between them (no romance at least so far). First would be "Hataraku Maou-Sama" and second would be "An Archdemon's Dilemma: How to love your Elf Bride". In both the MC adopts a little girl at some point and there's no sign of any romance so far. Also in one of them (Archdemon) there already is another love interest and Maou from Hatamaou is so far removed from anything love-related that after 16 volumes, there's still no concrete development with any of the potential love interests. So you might enjoy these. ^^

https://myanimelist.net/manga/36719/Hataraku_Maou-sama

https://myanimelist.net/manga/103707/Maou_no_Ore_ga_Dorei_Elf_wo_Yome_ni_Shitanda_ga_Dou_Medereba_Ii

There's also a manga adaptation for both of them, but I've only read a bit of the one for Hatamaou and it's waaaay behind the LN.

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AnimeTiddies134 said:

I think the problem is that I like watching shows with cute father daughter relationships and search for anime that are like that. Yet the first time I did,with Usagi Drop, the guy ended up banging his daughter figure. Then it happened here again. When you have a story about an adult adopting a young girl who is seven years old,everyone thinks it is about a cute father-daughter relationship.No one thinks "oh a cute romance where the mc takes care of the girl until she's old enough to bang". I want to watch anime with father-daughter relations but not many of them are out there,I've found four and two of them ended up banging their daughter figure when she got old,so you can understand why I would get pissed at this.

I can totally understand it, I just don't like it when people start to pull an entire thing down because of that. :)

To maybe help you get at least something positive out of this experience, I could recommend you 2 other series (LightNovels though, don't know if that's your thing), with adopted daughters and a nice relationship between them (no romance at least so far). First would be "Hataraku Maou-Sama" and second would be "An Archdemon's Dilemma: How to love your Elf Bride". In both the MC adopts a little girl at some point and there's no sign of any romance so far. Also in one of them (Archdemon) there already is another love interest and Maou from Hatamaou is so far removed from anything love-related that after 16 volumes, there's still no concrete development with any of the potential love interests. So you might enjoy these. ^^

https://myanimelist.net/manga/36719/Hataraku_Maou-sama

https://myanimelist.net/manga/103707/Maou_no_Ore_ga_Dorei_Elf_wo_Yome_ni_Shitanda_ga_Dou_Medereba_Ii

There's also a manga adaptation for both of them, but I've only read a bit of the one for Hatamaou and it's waaaay behind the LN.


Thanks for the suggestions but unfortunately I only watch anime, I don't read manga or visual novels. I did watch Hataraku maou sama anime, really loved it but there's only one season and doesn't look like it'll get another one. Also it's hilarious that maou is still not getting involved in romance. I watched it because it had a romance tag on MAL and didn't like how dense he was and didn't notice the feelings of the girl he works with. Guess he doesn't improve much in the future.

Anyways, I still haven't finished Aishteruze Baby yet,I'll get to watching it after I finish some anime, that one does have a good father-daughter relationship,or so it seems from the synopsis and initial episodes.

Also I do like romance anime,just expected uchimusume to be about a father-daughter relationship and not romance which is why I was dissapointed.
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