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Feb 21, 2010 10:18 PM
#1
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- A short but inspiring manga. Taneda's dead got me by surprise, I thought he was going to be alright after that accident but nope. Asano Inio did a fantastic job drawing the sad and tragic moments, I'm going to read more of his work. Beatnik is right, I saw the Solanin film adaptation trailer, and they gave everything away, not worth watching. ☺ 8-9/10 |
TuzoAnimeFeb 21, 2010 10:30 PM
Mar 4, 2010 12:34 PM
#2
TuzoAnime said: Taneda's dead got me by surprise, I thought he was going to be alright after that accident but nope. same here. i thought he'd just end up alright in hospital or something. still, i really, really enjoyed it. awesome story. shame about the film trailer though, haha. |
Apr 13, 2010 3:33 PM
#3
I'm the minority here but I thought this manga sucked. The angsty female protagonist and her loser boyfriend who supposedly a guitar player. Maybe I'm just being an elitist because I'm in college and wonder why the couple preferred to skip the option of college and lay around doing nothing and rely on being in a relationship and hoping that it won't end. On top of that, Meiko is dumb enough to think that her shaky relationship with her boyfriend will make her forget about real life troubles, such as money and having a good social life. My bias made this manga torture to read because it's stupid choice after stupid choice made by the characters. However, the mangaka was good enough to make me care enough about the characters to judge them. At its best, the manga illustrates the worst of what can happen when twenty somethings don't have a set goal in life that they want to pursue and simply lounge around. At its worst, it's another drama manga with a tragic situation thrown in to pander for the readers' sympathy. 7/10 (Good. +/- 1 Point) |
arimakenshinApr 13, 2010 3:37 PM
Jul 18, 2010 11:54 PM
#4
*Warning to people who have not read "Solanin": Some of this is put into spoilers due to a very high amount of direct story discussion. I do not want to ruin it for you. Thank you. Unto the post now~ ......................................... Hmmm...everyone here has really great arguments, especially "arimakenshin". I can see a lot of what they are saying is acutely true. I mean, yes...Taneda's death probably was a tragic situation to boost reader's sympathy towards the story. And yes, they made a lot of utterly stupid decisions [The biggest one in my opinion is them BOTH quitting their jobs, Meiko in the first two chapters and Taneda almost right before his fatal accident] I mean, really? I can understand quitting a job you cannot stand and then going to find a new one maybe two days later. But, they both just up and quit. Didn't look for new ones at all. And when Meiko finally decided to get a new job, it was just about 6 months after Taneda's death. Oh, but Meiko saved a lot of money....but that was only "going to last a year" according to "her bank account". So, why did she not get a new job sooner? Also, if Meiko reeaally wanted to keep the fact that her and Taneda were in fact living together away from her family..why would she put his name on the MAILBOX too? I think she was going to tell them at some point but he got in the accident too quickly after her mother's visit so she couldn't tell them in time. And now that I look back on it, their relationship was seriously shaky! There was so much doubt in it. Meiko kept asking herself and Taneda, while he was still alive, if they were really and truly happy. And Taneda cried when he thought about it! If he wasn't happy, I don't what it was. I think years of just dating and no movement forward in the relationship [at least that is what I saw with the info we were given...] started to make it diminish as well. Everyone was tired from day to day and no excitement happened. I mean, they were dating for four or six years! As well, during the entire story they did not go anywhere together really. Can that be due to the fact that they lived together? I don't think so! Plus, they would get into little tiny arguments a lot throughout the manga. And Taneda would just say something like " I'm going out for a walk". One time, he didn't even come back for 5 days. And he didn't bother to call home until he got a new phone which was on the 5th day! Also, Meiko did rely too much on her relationship with Taneda. It seems to me, the reader, that she believed in it a bit too much. She quit her job, and that made it that much harder for Taneda [ he even tells her one day]. After that, due to Taneda's job being on and off due to it being freelance illustration and part-time, she relies on her closest friends and mother's generous gift boxes from the family farm gradually more and more for such things as support and even to eat. She doesn't think to get a new job at all too. So, that's where she forgets to think about real life problems such as cash, a good social life, and employment comes to play. Now, I would like to discuss the serious downfalls to "Solanin". Ughhhh.......angst, angst, and some losers thrown in. First of all, Meiko. Our leading female role. She gets a an office job and hates it. Well, she complains about it for the first two chapters. What do you expect with that kind of job? It can't be exiting, with hooow much you try so hard to make it so. But, Meiko quits! And for what reason? To accomplish her dreams? She doesn't know them! She tries to figure them out while she is unemployed for months on end. But, she never does really. And so, she tries to get her boyfriend Taneda to get his college band back together to make some CDs and get recognized in music. However, Taneda begins to realize that he just can't do it. And whines some about it. How "what happens if we don't make it?" and other things. So, he finally realizes that his college dream of rock stardom are drawing to a close and he needs to wake up to the real world. But, he doesn't know anything else in which he can do! So, he is left with just hanging out with his bandmates and drinking till their drunk and go home to wait for another round of half rehearsing and half drinking with a splash of laughter. The rehearsals are to lead up to a really big live performance somewhere nearby, but Taneda dies in that accident before the date [making a really heart wrenching event] . So, Meiko decides to take his place. Which, would be a fantastic save for the band....if she knew how to play! So, she ends up practicing and learning just in time for the performance [not leaving much time, may I add]. And since she was the closest anyone had gotten to Taneda himself, the band saw her as the new Taneda and let her choose the song they would play at the performance. She chooses the song "Solanin", written by Taneda.....which is just a lot of angst as well. So, that is depressing. Also, the relationship between between Meiko and Taneda is very depressing because it seems they only stay together out of habit, per my arguments earlier in the post. Also, the original mangaka gives so much evidence as to Taneda's death that it is almost blunted and feels less emotional. And also, the story looses its self after that. So, that is so disappointing to me and many others like yourselves. Finally, the losers. I am so sorry, but there are two characters here in Solanin that I really cannot stand. Ah, I forget one of the names. Anyways, he has no reeeal reason to even be in the story. He is there for a few chapters. That's it. Also, he tells Meiko that he wants to go out with her but she was still with Taneda and then he comes once again to talk to Meiko before the performance and we see him run to the concert which that gives us the only concert scene in the entire manga..and how is it that this series is really tied to music? Only the last 3 or 4 chapters really give us music based events. That's it. Oh, and I don't like Kato as well. He is not that enjoyable as a character and he doesn't pursue any employment as well. Also, he does not really appreciate Ai because he goes with other girls to dinner and he is almost two-faced at times.As well, he is a SUPER SENIOR in college! That is soo bad and lame for anyone! But, what can you do right? Oh, and the last thing. Solanin left sooo many things unanswered in my opinion. Maybe I have just not figured out the answers to the questions? I'm not sure... The good things about "Solanin", please. The art is really nice! I loved it. I have seen better art, like Eureka Seven's manga, however but it really went hand in hand with the stories theme and tone. Also, it was a little different than a lot more of today's manga. So, a plus there. Most of the characters were likable as well, and you could really connect with them because they are so close to many of us now. So, it rang a bell inside of you because you are experiencing it now or like me who are just a step below their setting [I am starting college in August]. So, yes. And well....since you probably have a different opinion of things than myself, you can figure out the rest of the good things about "Solanin" for yourself ;D ......................................... ......well, I have probably typed a loooooooot more than I needed to. But, that's okay. Just try to read it all or glance at it, please. As well, even though I have seemed to really rant about this manga I really enjoyed it acutely. I thought it was pretty well done and I do suggest it to anyone who is willing to read it. So, yep! :3 P.S: arimakenshin, I must say that they did not skip college all together. "Solanin" is set right after they graduated. So, this is post-college. Just wanted to point that out. Sorry if this bothered you ^^; Also, writing this entire post....makes me want to change my score for it acutely. *drops score from 9 to 8* |
sillyker0nianJul 19, 2010 12:09 AM
Jul 30, 2010 2:34 PM
#5
sillyker0nian said: P.S: arimakenshin, I must say that they did not skip college all together. "Solanin" is set right after they graduated. So, this is post-college. Just wanted to point that out. Sorry if this bothered you ^^; Also, writing this entire post....makes me want to change my score for it acutely. *drops score from 9 to 8* Thanks for the correction. When I look at the manga after several months since I completed it, what really rubbed me the wrong way is when I asked the question, "What purpose does this manga have?" Does it really improve the reader's understand of different lifestyles? Entertainment? Is it unique compared to other manga? There are way too many manga, especially in the Seinen genre, that discuss the same "twenty something existentialism". It gets quite boring after the first few masterpieces. Solanin offered nothing more than a short quick form of entertainment that can be completed in twenty minutes without any deep message. |
Sep 8, 2010 9:22 PM
#6
I agree wholeheartedly with arimakenshin and sillyker0nian. But I am interested in what has been done right in this genre; what are the other 'masterpieces' that you mentioned above? :D |
Dec 8, 2010 3:26 PM
#7
Very good, but sad. Well, things need to go on. Solanin almost made me cry. |
Jun 12, 2011 5:26 PM
#8
Osakanaut said: I agree wholeheartedly with arimakenshin and sillyker0nian. But I am interested in what has been done right in this genre; what are the other 'masterpieces' that you mentioned above? :D +1 They pointed out exactly all my issues with this manga. I still enjoyed it but not as much as the others. |
Dec 20, 2011 1:39 AM
#9
I think it was just decent. The death of her boyfriend was a significant incident and a turning point of the story but it didn't seem to have much impact on her- not enough impact anyway. |
Jan 9, 2012 1:22 PM
#10
The death was really really confusing, he's lying down after the crash THEN it goes into the story about him playing guitar and stuff.. which is all apparently a flash back he had right before dying.. but how the heck are you supposed to know that? |
Mar 19, 2012 8:58 PM
#11
I dunno what's wrong with all of you. This is one of the most beautiful mangas I have ever read. |
Apr 30, 2012 2:03 AM
#12
I normally don't read much manga, but this... goddamn. This was something amazing. It make me experience just about every emotion possible and ended beautifully. This is my first 10/10 for a manga. |
Aug 29, 2012 4:07 AM
#13
Inspiring manga, great character and so damn realistic story. |
May 20, 2013 6:26 AM
#14
After the first posts I was wondering if I really missed something about it. I can fully agree with those who loved the story. It's extremely realistic, maybe that's the bad part there? The whole story gives you a feeling of unaccomplishment, lack of hope and ideas for the future, but underneath it all it really shows off the positive side of life - what is enjoying whatever you have, under whatever circumstances you get. It's true that their lives seemed to be pretty much nothing but a failure, because they couldn't find a place for themselves after finishing college - I can fully sympathize with them. In this bitter-sweet story there was on line that really inspired me: "if you ad zero to zero you get eternity" @sillyker0nian you misinterpreted a few things: She quitted the job she hated to make Taneda think about their future. Taneda didn't die before the concert, the idea came out after his death, and had nothing to do with Meiko starting guitar. She started working 2 months after Taneda's death The boy asked Meiko out few months after Taneda's death - that's why she didn't agree. Sorry for pointing those out but they seem quite important to the story(^__^ ) |
Jun 11, 2013 2:09 PM
#15
A great manga, I think of all the manga I've read to completion this is probably my favorite. I think what makes this such a great read is how relatable the characters were. They are just normal 20 year olds fresh out of college, they have dreams but they also know they probably will never accomplish those dreams. They are inbetween being "kids" and full blown "adults" as far as their attitude and outlook on life, much like myself. I also like how the characters have these little doses of playful randomness, especially the guys, reminds of all the times me and my friends would do something positively goofy "just because". The art is also pretty spectacular, very realistic and alot of show don't tell here. The characters look like normal japanese people which is, of course, exactly what Asano wanted I'm sure. I hate how some people in this thread are bashing this just because this kind of theme has been done before. So what? What matters is that Solanin does an absolutely incredible job of handling its subject matter with just the right use of humor and melancholy. If there is something that does this kind of story as realistic and honest as this does. Feel free to recommend it. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Jan 22, 2014 8:46 AM
#16
This was a great manga :) It felt as if it wandered off at times, but as a whole it was well worth my time. |
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Mar 28, 2014 11:09 PM
#17
God damn I wish I read this sooner. Going through a lot of the same issues that characters were going through as well so maybe this spoke to me more than a few people above me. But much like real life this manga didn't have the ultimate answer to the question of "what do I do with my life" because honestly there is no answer so I like Solanin handled that. Made it feel more real to me. And again much like the characters this story isn't going to make me go out and fix all of my problems in an instant, but i'd be lying if I say Solanin didn't inspire me. 10/10 |
Apr 4, 2014 8:21 PM
#18
enjoyed thoroughly |
Jun 28, 2014 7:03 AM
#19
I don't know if this a great manga or not, but it just reaaallllyyy spoke to me in a way in which most manga/anime (which are pretty escapist stories) simply haven't. The struggles of life in one's twenties are some of the most bittersweet one can find. Can highly recommend it. |
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Jul 25, 2014 4:29 AM
#20
Jul 25, 2014 4:47 AM
#21
I've reread this manga 3 times now. It still gets me every time. Heart breaking and real. Probably the only work in the manga/anime medium that struck me on a completely personal level. It knows when to be raw, it knows when to pull back, it knows when to create distance, and it knows when to blow you away. It also makes me hate the film. It's by no means a bad film. But it lacks the struggle, rawness, and soul that this had. Also, juxtaposing the final scene with the band performance was a horrible horrible idea. Dumb call, film. Still, love this manga. I might read it once more. And bawl my eyes out again. |
Oct 13, 2014 4:44 AM
#23
You can't always get what you want But if you try sometimes you might find You get what you need |
Dec 22, 2014 2:58 PM
#24
Damn, this manga was really powerful. I think it speaks to everyone who has ever experienced those 'forks in the road' in their life. As others have already said, the mangaka is really skillful at portraying realistic human emotions. This was truly an emotional rollercoaster in 28 chapters, and almost made me feel like crying which is very rare from the entertainment medium, for me. The art is so pretty too, I love the character designs. 9/10, one of my favorite manga for sure |
Dec 31, 2014 1:02 PM
#25
Hmm I dont know what I was hoping for by reading this manga but I didnt get it thats for sure. Maybe it was an answer of what I should do with my life. I just dont know. :/ |
Jan 22, 2015 12:43 AM
#26
That was a nice manga, short and to the point. I really want to see the band part animated despite the awkwardness of the gimmick employed there. But overall, a great portrayal with realism and themes in regards with the characters. 8/10. |
Aug 17, 2015 1:12 PM
#27
TuzoAnime said: [i]Taneda's dead got me by surprise, I thought he was going to be alright after that accident but nope. Personally I found this manga really good. Too bad it was short, but still I enjoyed it. 7/10[/i] |
Jan 11, 2016 5:00 PM
#28
Just your average story about some average people trying to find a way to live on this world. Story was good, characters were nice and the art looked amazing, a short but great manga. |
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Feb 18, 2016 5:07 PM
#29
It didn't leave a big impact on me, but it really was an enjoyable read and I found myself empathizing with the characters, which is a big plus. I was a bit surprised at Taneda's death, but then again not that much either, since I thought something like that might be the reason for the good rating :) |
May 2, 2016 4:18 AM
#30
I may have to say that Solanin is definitely not for everyone. I myself am a 20-something aimlessly wandering through life, wondering what to do next. This manga speaks to me in volumes (heh, get it) because I relate so much to what Taneda is feeling and thinking. Solanin hits too close to home that it's scary. Asano Inio's works has always given me a very "real" feeling. This is what true art really is. It makes you "feel" something. Oyasumi Punpun had me depressed for weeks even. Solanin might also do the same. As for the "how are we supposed to know that those were flasbacks?" comment, you can tell by the color of the background panels because flashbacks have black panel backgrounds while present time happenings are in its standard white. In the end Solanin, for me, may not give me the kind of resolve or solution to what lost 20-somethings should do...but isn't that reality? In a span of what, a few years? Not everyone finds resolve. At least the characters somehow took a little step toward their dreams, unlike so many of us who cower deeper into our comfort zones, get the "ideal" job, be a "normal" adult, and just die not feeling "completely unhappy" but also not "truly happy" as well. Overall, Solanin was a great read. It made me realize to just be brave sometimes and follow my dreams, even though it's reckless, even though it's dangerous, it makes me realize that trying is better than not trying at all. Whoever reads this at the very end, thank you. :) |
Aug 29, 2016 1:24 PM
#31
I feel like I read this at the perfect time in my life. #relatable |
Sep 2, 2016 10:28 PM
#32
Dec 30, 2016 12:10 PM
#33
I really liked it. It speaks more on a personal level, especially to the age group of early 20ish adults, myself included. It's the age where self doubts crop up within you, relationship insecurities begin to appear, you suddenly begin to feel "what if I had taken this road in my life, would I have made the correct choice?" The characters here faced this dilemma and at least tried to take steps forward towards their dream, instead of pondering about it or getting stuck there for the whole life. "I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." 9.4/10, Asano really does a brilliant job of taking snapshots from people's lives and depicting their emotions. |
Jul 9, 2017 5:40 PM
#34
It' was very boring this manga for me. I never really liked the cast, specially Meiko but I can understand the reason: this is dedicate to the young adults who lacks a purpose in theirs lives, have their mind in the sky or "unreachable" dreams with a harsh reality, I'm none of thoses. This manga is not for me, simple as that sound. |
JoycdonnellMar 7, 2018 3:37 PM
Oct 7, 2017 8:52 AM
#35
This fell down horribly after the first half. I feel the focus in volume 2 was completely different from what volume 1 was set up to; missed potential. Taneda dying was kinda unnecessary and the story never actually showed it or developed it properly after that, and the characters didn't seem that much impacted by it either. Volume 1 had interesting themes, if only the story had supported them further.. |
AquamirrorOct 7, 2017 8:56 AM
Oct 23, 2017 1:17 AM
#36
Inspiring, although it's saddening that they only moved forward after Taneda died. I also liked the lyrics of the song Taneda made for Solanin especially the idea of it. 8/10 Edit:I just found out the author wrote the lyrics for the Solanin song by AKFG which is nice :D |
EGOISTMar 6, 2018 3:35 AM
Oct 29, 2017 3:40 AM
#37
Dang, I quite enjoyed this manga. I never expected Taneda to die though, that was pretty sad. Not the best manga, but enjoyable. |
Jan 28, 2019 8:42 AM
#38
Well this end came out of nowhere and just felt so sudden. Anyway, I did not care for this manga. I'll probably forget it after two days. I would have given it a 5, but the way Taneda was killed off, his actions, and the way the mangaka wanted you to sympathize with him and the other bunch of shitty characters in the later half annoyed me, so a 4/10 it is. |
Oct 23, 2019 9:03 PM
#39
Pretty good manga. Characters had pretty good development especially meiko and rip after taneda's death. I hope that young kid also finds his happiness. |
Jan 11, 2020 7:11 PM
#40
I'm not sure what I expected when I decided to read this, but I don't think I got what I was looking for. That's ok tho. I've seen how hyped Oyasumi Punpun is, so I figured I'd read Solanin to get an idea of Asano's work before jumping into OP. This manga did very well conveying the mood of being in your 20's and not knowing for sure what to do with your life. It has a genuine realistic feel and the manga flowed very well throughout the whole story. It felt more like one huge chapter instead of being broken down into parts. I feel like the manga should have been a little bit longer tho since it was written in this manner. That way the more impactful events have time to be fleshed out a bit so that it doesn't get lost in between the slower uneventful parts. One of the biggest problems I had with this manga is Taneda's character. He was a shitty bf. He didn't help Meiko in any way that was helpful and ends up bringing her down. Then he wants to bail when he sees things are starting to get real and Meiko is expecting him to step up. Instead of trying, he goes and essentially commits suicide. It just made me feel bad for Meiko because she had quit her job and tried to be happy with Taneda, but in end, he just left her even more unhappy after his death. I'm glad she was able to pick up the pieces of her life and make a change of her mistakes. It was even nice how she honored Taneda by learning his song and playing it in concert to bring this manga to a close. I wish the characters had been a bit more memorable, but overall it was an enjoyable read. I give it a 8/10. |
zomikJan 11, 2020 7:17 PM
Jun 21, 2020 2:24 PM
#41
Really enjoyable and inspiring manga. I liked the ending scene. 8/10 |
Aug 6, 2020 3:14 AM
#42
it took me so long to finish this manga not because it was boring or smt it just did cause I am a little lazy ass. But I digress, the manga was very enjoyable and realistic, the characters were ordinary adults which is why it felt so real and I could relate to them. Taneda's death somehow killed the realism for me... I was expecting this couple to figure out how to live and settle, eventually, find stable jobs and have a child. Oh well, but the story is very good. 9/10 |
“Life is a constant process of dying.” |
Oct 4, 2020 3:59 PM
#43
I like Asano Inio's humor. It's very subtle and doesn't ruin the mood in the scenes while still helping the mood stay light-hearted. The story could be a take from any of my friends or my life during college years and young adulthood, very relatable even though growth has happened. I think this is a sign of good and believable story-telling. Some of his works go overboard and while are understandable, remain very alienating. Very refreshing to reminiscence the bitter-sweetness of that time, even though things like that were unbearably painful back then. Even the feelings of mourning grow and take different shape with time. |
Jan 18, 2021 3:58 PM
#44
Beautiful story. It shows that even though life is tough, there's always a good side of it. And all the little things matter, like time spent with your beloved ones. |
Feb 13, 2021 8:44 AM
#46
Really nice ending of the manga, overall I liked this manga a lot. The problems they were dealing with are very relatable to many people nowadays. I guess Oyasumi Punpun is the next thing Il read from this creator to see what his most apraised work is about. This was a great read and won't be forgotten for quite some time 8.3/10 |
Mar 14, 2021 11:00 PM
#47
I was really hoping it was only an accident but he actually died. It was so sudden too, right after he had finally "found" something. Short but rather biter sweet, really enjoyed it though and nice ending though. I'm happy for everyone! 9/10. |
May 19, 2021 3:24 PM
#49
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