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Aug 2, 2016 3:23 AM
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interesting tweet by Mikage
https://twitter.com/mikage_eiji/status/726767715734589447
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"But take a look at the suddenly Omoita' by MyAnimeList, "empty box and zero Maria" was still number one in the Novell department. http: // myanimelist.net/topmanga.php?t ype = novels ... The entire second place also enclosed cartoon. It should come out more popular in home country! Built-in to the strategy of Cool Japan, it should be Hollywood movie! "

I think we need to start Kickstarter to fund him.

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Aug 2, 2016 4:34 AM
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Shitty Hollywood should never touch this masterpiece!
Aug 5, 2016 7:27 AM
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An anime would be useful, always better than black-and-white...
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An anime would be good, but how the hell are they gonna turn perfection into motion?
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Aug 5, 2016 2:27 PM
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Either animate it (which will probably wont do the LN justice anyway) either let it be... Also, are there any news about him working on a new project or something? I m desperate to find something similar but i cant.

Also, whats up with the manga this author has made the script for that are shown in this site and they arent anywhere to be found?
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Aug 5, 2016 9:33 PM
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Only Shaft or White Fox could make it work maybe
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Aug 12, 2016 9:35 AM
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You guys still don't get that in the case of LN anime either advertises ongoing volumes or is a low budget exploiting attempt on very popular series, and HaroMari falls into neither. Maybe it can be OVA/Movie series like Kara no Kyoukai, imagining it can do at 4-5 split high budget films
Aug 12, 2016 9:23 PM
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Ty-Ki said:
Shitty Hollywood should never touch this masterpiece!


+100000000000000000000000000000


Aug 14, 2016 11:41 PM
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Author kinda implied that the reason he mentioned hollywood is because Hakomari lack popularity in Japan which probably make him think that even if they made it into ainme, it won't success.
On top of all, there's also money problem.
Aug 16, 2016 3:32 PM
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Finish Re:zero and then do HakoMari, White Fox.
Aug 16, 2016 4:33 PM

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Oh god, I had already forgotten the idea about an anime adaptation. This makes me want to believe again that could happen someday T_T
Aug 16, 2016 4:35 PM

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It only shows that HakoMari is not that popular in Japan compared to the west and I think he said hollywood because of that popularity since MAL is a western anime website.
Aug 18, 2016 6:19 AM

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proper translation:

So I happened to look at MAL and in the top novels section Utsuro is first as usual. Even included in the "all manga" section it's still second place. It should really have more success at home. Were it part of the Cool Japan strategies, it could make a Hollywood movie.
Aug 19, 2016 8:35 PM

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how I would buy anything hakomari related...
Aug 19, 2016 11:42 PM
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Hey guys, any way to point out where I can read it? I've been scouring the internet and the torrent I tried sucked.
Aug 20, 2016 10:44 AM

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StormedCrown said:
Hey guys, any way to point out where I can read it? I've been scouring the internet and the torrent I tried sucked.



https://mega.nz/#!AAtiDSaC!PYwfr6A_qqsgWOItEPLHPn7WutymBMG5muFsn95WlBw

Credit goes to u/Axeshizzle on reddit/r/hakomari. Check out the subreddit, it needs more subscribers!
Aug 20, 2016 12:35 PM

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I'd generally recommend Baka-Tsuki, though.
Aug 20, 2016 7:05 PM

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EusthEnoptEron said:
I'd generally recommend Baka-Tsuki, though.


I'm 90% sure all 7 pdfs are taken from Baka-Tsuki.
Aug 21, 2016 2:13 AM

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The problem is that the "official" PDFs might have been updated in the meanwhile (which is probably not the case because I'm lazy).
Aug 24, 2016 3:07 PM

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True, they are in the process of updating and cleaning their translations. Generally it doesn't change though.
Aug 24, 2016 7:20 PM
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animesannin said:
An anime would be good, but how the hell are they gonna turn perfection into motion?

I think White Fox could do it.
Aug 24, 2016 9:57 PM

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It really deserves at least one season per arc.

"Rejecting Classroom" Arc = 12 episodes.
"Seven Night in Mud" Arc = 12 episodes.
"Game of Idleness" Arc= 24 episodes.
"Wish Crushing Cinema" Arc = 24 episodes.
"Aya Otonashi" Arc = 12 episodes.

It'll only happen on imagination though : (
Aug 28, 2016 11:24 AM
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Farenait said:
We need more like this flawless masterpiece. Does anyone have any idea whether any other of his Light Novels besides Kamisu Reina will get translated? It will be the greatest shame ever if his works stay untranslated. I am desperate to find a Light Novel that can be compared with this emotional roller coaster but i cant, some one help me, please, give me some leads, any would do!


His other work f rank no bokuen has been picked up by a translator. I also recommend tsukumodo antique shop which is similar to hakomari but episodic.
Aug 28, 2016 7:23 PM

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Near_21 said:
Farenait said:
We need more like this flawless masterpiece. Does anyone have any idea whether any other of his Light Novels besides Kamisu Reina will get translated? It will be the greatest shame ever if his works stay untranslated. I am desperate to find a Light Novel that can be compared with this emotional roller coaster but i cant, some one help me, please, give me some leads, any would do!


His other work f rank no bokuen has been picked up by a translator. I also recommend tsukumodo antique shop which is similar to hakomari but episodic.

Cool, I was waiting for a translator for it
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Aug 31, 2016 1:29 AM
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It really deserves at least one season per arc.

"Rejecting Classroom" Arc = 12 episodes.
"Seven Night in Mud" Arc = 12 episodes.
"Game of Idleness" Arc= 24 episodes.
"Wish Crushing Cinema" Arc = 24 episodes.
"Aya Otonashi" Arc = 12 episodes.

It'll only happen on imagination though : (

That's way, WAY too much. It would be an awful and long watch.
The usual pace of a decent adaptation is 3-4 episodes per LN volume.
So a 26-episode anime would do just fine.
Or simply 5 movies for the 5 arcs (like Kara no Kyoukai), varying between 70 and 120 minutes each (considering 120 minutes is 6 episodes).
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Sep 4, 2016 11:01 AM

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Don't give me hopes like this, a successful adaptation of HakoMari would be too beautiful for this world.
Sep 7, 2016 8:21 PM

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Funny that I recently mentioned Re:Zero's success giving me hope for this, and then this...too good to be true, but Mikage certainly deserves it. And yeah, Kara no Kyoukai treatment would be ideal, to say the least, but literally only White Fox or Shaft could pull it off, both of which are plenty busy..
Sep 7, 2016 8:30 PM

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*Shrug*
If it's not popular in Japan, then whoever did the English localization must have fixed whatever it was that was wrong with it. But we've all seen what Hollywood does to manga adaptations LOL (Heavy whitewashing, like white goku in dragon ball)
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MortalMelancholy said:
*Shrug*
If it's not popular in Japan, then whoever did the English localization must have fixed whatever it was that was wrong with it.


I wouldn't automatically assume that the reason the novel didn't do very well in Japan is because there was something wrong with the novel; there have been numerous cases where an anime doesn't garner much attention from the Japanese but the Western audience are all over it.

We see stuff like Kino no Tabi, Please Save My Earth and Baccano not getting much attention and thus never getting continuations. Hyouka's not getting another season any time soon anyway, but the BD sales were too low. It's not that these series are bad -- it's just that the audience isn't there. The same is likely true for HakoMari.

Considering a fan translator was the one that brought HakoMari over into the English language, I'm sure EEE stuck quite closely to the original source material without taking any (or many) liberties. Fan translators do this because they love the series and want to allow English-speaking audiences to enjoy it, after all. They don't do it for money; they want people to enjoy it in its rawest form.



Still waiting for an official HakoMari translation. I've since bought Bokura wa Dokonimo Hirakanai, but I can't read it :3
Sep 13, 2016 5:54 AM

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Speaking of Hirakanai, Mikage recently basically rewrote the whole thing. The new edition is slated for a release in November and will come with pictures by Yoshitoshi ABe (Lain, Phenomeno).
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EusthEnoptEron said:
Speaking of Hirakanai, Mikage recently basically rewrote the whole thing. The new edition is slated for a release in November and will come with pictures by Yoshitoshi ABe (Lain, Phenomeno).


Wow, really, Abe illustration, hell yeah
Sep 16, 2016 8:11 AM

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White Fox or ufotable adaptation please.
Sep 16, 2016 8:25 AM

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And people say MAL ratings don't matter.
Sep 16, 2016 10:47 AM

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And people say MAL ratings don't matter.

It doesn't with such low numbers.
9.16 score by 6695 users.

Just a desperate appeal to western fanboys since it wasn't marketable enough to get anything.
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ichii_1 said:
ziggy_Z said:
And people say MAL ratings don't matter.

It doesn't with such low numbers.
9.16 score by 6695 users.

Just a desperate appeal to western fanboys since it wasn't marketable enough to get anything.

Yeah, written in japanese, great idea.
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ichii_1 said:
ziggy_Z said:
And people say MAL ratings don't matter.

It doesn't with such low numbers.
9.16 score by 6695 users.

Just a desperate appeal to western fanboys since it wasn't marketable enough to get anything.


First of all, that was one of the most stupid comment i have ever seen, did you even read it ?

Secondly even popular LN series like Monogatari Series has 3000~ and Ookami to Koushinryou has 5574~ votes. Suzumiya Harahi has 7058. No Game No Life has 3451 users.

So tell me how is that a low vote when we are talking about LNs on MAL ?
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So tell me how is that a low vote when we are talking about LNs on MAL ?


Compared the the Japanese numbers those are low.
Several thousand votes on a western site means nothing to Japanese investors especially since the amount of western people who would actually buy the series is less than 1%.
Sep 19, 2016 2:56 PM

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Of course, those numbers mean nothing to the Japanese market. That being said, 6000+ votes ain't no low number and is probably a larger amount of feedback than can be acquired on any other site in any language for Hakomari. (For comparison, Hakomari has 24 votes on Amazon.co.jp and was registered by 2118 users on bookmeter.com). I wouldn't be surprised if Mikage at least bragged about it in front of Miki or fellow writers (as he did on Twitter).

Speaking of numbers, the PDF of the first volume was downloaded 145,919 times. Still irrelevant for the Japanese market, but I'd like to think that at least a small fraction of those downloaders noticed the "purchasing the books" section I made on the project page. :)
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ichii_1 said:
Dustro said:

So tell me how is that a low vote when we are talking about LNs on MAL ?


Compared the the Japanese numbers those are low.
Several thousand votes on a western site means nothing to Japanese investors especially since the amount of western people who would actually buy the series is less than 1%.


What i'm saying is other popular series got numbers similar to 6695 users and even less. But they have offical eng translation.
Oct 14, 2016 4:44 PM

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Abe illustration of Hirakanai

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I refuse to believe that HakoMari is less popular than those garbage light novels like Gakusen Toshit Asterisk which already has 2 seasons worth of material adapted.
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I refuse to believe that HakoMari is less popular than those garbage light novels like Gakusen Toshit Asterisk which already has 2 seasons worth of material adapted.


It's popular only in mal tbh, not in Japan.
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And people say MAL ratings don't matter.
They really don't.

At best they only made Mikage feel good because a decent number of people appreciate his work. Or idk maybe it had the opposite effect, since it seems that he prefers for his work to be more appreciated in Japan. Which is understandable.
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ya_hallo said:
I refuse to believe that HakoMari is less popular than those garbage light novels like Gakusen Toshit Asterisk which already has 2 seasons worth of material adapted.


It's popular only in mal tbh, not in Japan.

Yeah, it got trashed pretty badly in the user reviews on Amazon.co.jp.
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It's popular only in mal tbh, not in Japan.

Yeah, it got trashed pretty badly in the user reviews on Amazon.co.jp.

Hakomari? Not at all. It got great reviews on Amazon, save for a few negative ratings for V7 because of the corny ending.
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Arkasia said:

Yeah, it got trashed pretty badly in the user reviews on Amazon.co.jp.

Hakomari? Not at all. It got great reviews on Amazon, save for a few negative ratings for V7 because of the corny ending.

I assumed that Frostbytes was talking about Gakusen Toshi Asterisk. But if not then nevermind my post.
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Only Shaft or White Fox could make it work maybe


Maybe Gainax??? XD
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Would love an anime for this
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This kind makes me sad? Because his work is such a masterpiece and yet it doesn't get the recognition it deserves, I know it's not the first author to go through this and won't be the last, but still is sad. Also, thanks for the proper translation & the one done with google translator :)
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Meybi said:
SenpaiJay98 said:
Only Shaft or White Fox could make it work maybe


Maybe Gainax??? XD


Could Madhouse do the job too? I''m Unsure tbh because you know them and Season twos 😫
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