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Sep 19, 2015 3:49 PM
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Since the the first season is finish, when can we expect a second season? I don't read the LN's so I need some insight on how the LN's are progressing. Also, do you think it should be 24 episodes instead of 12 episodes?
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Sep 19, 2015 3:50 PM
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1 LN per cour is a pretty good pace. I doubt there will be a 2nd season but who knows. I would read the LNs just in case tho.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Sep 19, 2015 3:50 PM
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Probably never. The sales have been pretty terrible afaik
Sep 19, 2015 3:52 PM
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They also did a pretty sloppy job with the last few episodes. I'm talking about the derpy animation. Clearly they didn't really care in the last few episodes or their budget was really running out.
Sep 19, 2015 3:57 PM
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I shall cross my fingers preemptively.
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Probably never. The sales have been pretty terrible afaik

Which sales? DVD/BD Volume 1 of the Anime was just released a couple of days (9/16) or are you referring to the novels?
Sep 19, 2015 4:21 PM
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When they decide to make one.
Sep 19, 2015 4:22 PM
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Sailamoon said:
HaXXspetten said:
Probably never. The sales have been pretty terrible afaik

Which sales? DVD/BD Volume 1 of the Anime was just released a couple of days (9/16) or are you referring to the novels?

He's probably talking about the novels. They've been pretty shit in the sales department, even with the anime boost they barely make it into the 1,000s which is terrible for LN/mangas.
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Jerkhov said:
Sailamoon said:

Which sales? DVD/BD Volume 1 of the Anime was just released a couple of days (9/16) or are you referring to the novels?

He's probably talking about the novels. They've been pretty shit in the sales department, even with the anime boost they barely make it into the 1,000s which is terrible for LN/mangas.


Do you have any links with the sales numbers? The Anime was rather underwhelming in my opinion, but barely making four digit numbers after an Anime boost is just sad.
Sep 19, 2015 5:26 PM

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delija9091 said:
Jerkhov said:

He's probably talking about the novels. They've been pretty shit in the sales department, even with the anime boost they barely make it into the 1,000s which is terrible for LN/mangas.


Do you have any links with the sales numbers? The Anime was rather underwhelming in my opinion, but barely making four digit numbers after an Anime boost is just sad.


http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1428846
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Sep 19, 2015 5:53 PM

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HandsomeMan said:
They also did a pretty sloppy job with the last few episodes. I'm talking about the derpy animation. Clearly they didn't really care in the last few episodes or their budget was really running out.

Probably more like they had to rush it to get the episodes on air.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Sep 19, 2015 6:34 PM

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Just officially license the LN. That's all I need.

Of course, if they do produce a second season, I will immediately jizz in my pants as well as Volume 2 is my favorite LN so far in the series.
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deanzel said:
Just officially license the LN. That's all I need.

Of course, if they do produce a second season, I will immediately jizz in my pants as well as Volume 2 is my favorite LN so far in the series.
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Sep 19, 2015 9:15 PM

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vol 5 is my favorite so far (with the biggest plot twist ever)
too bad I think I can never see it on anime. I doubt this got 2nd season, not to mention 5th season
Sep 19, 2015 10:22 PM
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They also did a pretty sloppy job with the last few episodes. I'm talking about the derpy animation. Clearly they didn't really care in the last few episodes or their budget was really running out.


Well, its not a great studio who were doing this tho.
The only thing Passione has done before is Rail Wars.
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deanzel said:
Just officially license the LN. That's all I need.

Of course, if they do produce a second season, I will immediately jizz in my pants as well as Volume 2 is my favorite LN so far in the series.

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neolucaman said:
delija9091 said:


Do you have any links with the sales numbers? The Anime was rather underwhelming in my opinion, but barely making four digit numbers after an Anime boost is just sad.


http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1428846
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294位 六花の勇者
386位 六花の勇者2

i think pre-order around 500

No, the anime make a decent boost, in oricon monthly sales Rokka series boosted 44k in July which is better Kuusen(41k) and shimoneta(34k)...(yeah shimoneta boost is worse of this season, even worse than Kuusen), and 35k in August(Kuusen and shimoneta are gone).
And remember Rokka only have 6 volumes, less volumes than all other LN shows in this season.
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People are forgetting Rokka has a third revenue source, which is the legal streaming from Chinese sites. Rokka is probably in the top 3 most popular there and the revenue is still massive.
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Frrrosty said:
People are forgetting Rokka has a third revenue source, which is the legal streaming from Chinese sites. Rokka is probably in the top 3 most popular there and the revenue is still massive.

Well i think it's also pretty popular in west.
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Frrrosty said:
People are forgetting Rokka has a third revenue source, which is the legal streaming from Chinese sites. Rokka is probably in the top 3 most popular there and the revenue is still massive.


Do you have anything to back that up or are you just making a baseless assumption?
Sep 20, 2015 1:04 AM

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Frrrosty said:
People are forgetting Rokka has a third revenue source, which is the legal streaming from Chinese sites. Rokka is probably in the top 3 most popular there and the revenue is still massive.


Do you have anything to back that up or are you just making a baseless assumption?
He has, I saw that source a few weeks ago as well. I forgot where it was, maybe ANN, but they were listing the different shows and talking about how those revenues were able to "save" some shows earlier due to the high revenue coming from it.
Sep 20, 2015 1:07 AM

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I feel a show like this will sell badly so I kinda think a season 2 won't happen..

I am preying someone brings over the LN so I can read more of this, I will be buying the blu ray as well
Sep 20, 2015 1:24 AM

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Zefyris said:
ReaperCreeper said:


Do you have anything to back that up or are you just making a baseless assumption?
He has, I saw that source a few weeks ago as well. I forgot where it was, maybe ANN, but they were listing the different shows and talking about how those revenues were able to "save" some shows earlier due to the high revenue coming from it.


https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/129680295/new-approach-to-successful-anime-oversea#p129682043

Here's a really outdated link to a board on 4chan giving the details, but ofc they've taken it down hence the reason why I didn't put in a link to the information. Otherwise, just google the stuff if you want to know, but I can assure you what I've said is quite true.

AssClass for example has enough money to fund for another 2 seasons because of it, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to say that Rokka will have enough for at least one more, if Passione are willing to make it their flagship series that is.
Sep 20, 2015 1:31 AM

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I hope never, definitely in TOP 5 worst anime of my list.
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D-I-O said:
I hope never, definitely in TOP 5 worst anime of my list.

I don't understand why people don't want something to do well just because they didn't like it. Be it an anime, person, company, etc. I see this stuff all the time...
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Avenger-senpai said:
D-I-O said:
I hope never, definitely in TOP 5 worst anime of my list.

I don't understand why people don't want something to do well just because they didn't like it. Be it an anime, person, company, etc. I see this stuff all the time...

I mean i can't really see how anyone would like it, I only finished it just because watching 1 episode/week was not that much of a pain but it was still the most painful 20 minutes of my week. But if you like it then cool, whatever floats your boat.
Sep 20, 2015 1:59 AM

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I mean i can't really see how anyone would like it,

Top 5 worst argument.
Sep 20, 2015 2:25 AM

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Is the LN a lot worse than the anime? 'Cause the anime was fantastic and I have no clue why it wouldn't sell well.



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Zadion said:
Is the LN a lot worse than the anime? 'Cause the anime was fantastic and I have no clue why it wouldn't sell well.

The anime is basically the exact same as the LN - they included as much detail as they could. The only real differences is that it reads faster as a book, and its probably a bit harder to guess who the 7th is due to some actions standing out more on screen than in writing, and others standing out less so.
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D-I-O said:
Avenger-senpai said:

I don't understand why people don't want something to do well just because they didn't like it. Be it an anime, person, company, etc. I see this stuff all the time...

I mean i can't really see how anyone would like it, I only finished it just because watching 1 episode/week was not that much of a pain but it was still the most painful 20 minutes of my week. But if you like it then cool, whatever floats your boat.

How was it not much of a pain yet still considered the most painful minutes of your week? lol.

It might be because this wasn't your type of genre, mystery, which is what the majority of the anime was about or just personal taste. That still doesn't justify hoping that it doesn't get a second season. Why would you care if it got one? You didn't like it which would mean you wouldn't watch the second season in the first place. Seems pretty silly.
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I really hope it gets a second season because from what I've heard the story goes nuts later on.
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I really want a season 2, the second volume is really nice. Last episode is clearly open for a season 2 : new character, villain who is going to move, new area to explore...

But please Passione if you make a season 2 take your time to do a clean animation.
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But please Passione if you make a season 2 take your time to do a clean animation.


You can't really blame them for the animation. This is the first show they've ever adapted, they probably had close to 0 budget for this.

Also, that's interesting. I didn't know Rokka was successful in sales in it's own way. Gives me.... hope, I guess.
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I actually liked it but as stated multiple times, the marketing was so terrible that the sales are just bad.
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D-I-O said:
I mean i can't really see how anyone would like it,

Lmao you need the reason? Freaking GEGE
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They also did a pretty sloppy job with the last few episodes. I'm talking about the derpy animation. Clearly they didn't really care in the last few episodes or their budget was really running out.


Well, its not a great studio who were doing this tho.
The only thing Passione has done before is Rail Wars.

It's still hard to believe that they treat Rail Wars and Rokka complete different.
Sure they learn their lesson.
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I shall cross my fingers preemptively.
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LiarMaask said:

But please Passione if you make a season 2 take your time to do a clean animation.


You can't really blame them for the animation. This is the first show they've ever adapted, they probably had close to 0 budget for this.


That's why I want them to take their time for a season 2, or maybe associate with another studio to do a part of the animation ? (I don't know if it's possible). But I'm sure they can do a better job, I respect them to perfectly adapt the light novel.
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Maybe the chances aren't very high, but I still hope we get a second season. This show was much better than I expected and I really want to see what comes next.
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I think that there is a fairly high chance of there being a season 2 of Rokka considering the size of Passione they would want to make as much money out of a franchise as possible. So long as they hold the rights to all of the volumes of Rokka not just the first volume, I expect a second season, but i suppose it really depends on how well the DVD/BD sells
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Zadion said:
Is the LN a lot worse than the anime? 'Cause the anime was fantastic and I have no clue why it wouldn't sell well.
the details is almost the same as book, or you can the same as book. but the LN's narrative and Anime's narrative gave me different feeling. ( i prefer the books style ^^. Book vol.1 9/10, Anime 8/10 )
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I hope never, definitely in TOP 5 worst anime of my list.

I don't understand why people don't want something to do well just because they didn't like it. Be it an anime, person, company, etc. I see this stuff all the time...

Because they obviously don't want to see more from that anime, person, company, etc...

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Is the LN a lot worse than the anime? 'Cause the anime was fantastic and I have no clue why it wouldn't sell well.

Because what you think is "fantastic" isn't what other think is fantastic. Also being "good" didn't mean that a show would sell just like how being "bad" doesn't mean that a show won't sell.

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But please Passione if you make a season 2 take your time to do a clean animation.

Who is going to pay them for all that time they're taking? They start making the anime before it airs but when the deadlines start getting nearer and the money is starting to run out, that's when shit hits the fans.
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Zadion said:
Is the LN a lot worse than the anime? 'Cause the anime was fantastic and I have no clue why it wouldn't sell well.

Because what you think is "fantastic" isn't what other think is fantastic. Also being "good" didn't mean that a show would sell just like how being "bad" doesn't mean that a show won't sell.

LiarMaask said:
But please Passione if you make a season 2 take your time to do a clean animation.

Who is going to pay them for all that time they're taking? They start making the anime before it airs but when the deadlines start getting nearer and the money is starting to run out, that's when shit hits the fans.

Agree.

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Avenger-senpai said:

I don't understand why people don't want something to do well just because they didn't like it. Be it an anime, person, company, etc. I see this stuff all the time...

Because they obviously don't want to see more from that anime, person, company, etc...

Disagree.
No one force them to watch it, why so salty? :S
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Because they obviously don't want to see more from that anime, person, company, etc...

Disagree.
No one force them to watch it, why so salty? :S

It's not about being "salty". If I could choose between a studio making a sequel to a show I dislike or making a completely new show then I'll obviously choose the new one.
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Kruzy said:
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Disagree.
No one force them to watch it, why so salty? :S

It's not about being "salty". If I could choose between a studio making a sequel to a show I dislike or making a completely new show then I'll obviously choose the new one.
well, when you put it like that........
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Well, its not a great studio who were doing this tho.
The only thing Passione has done before is Rail Wars.

It's still hard to believe that they treat Rail Wars and Rokka complete different.
Sure they learn their lesson.

I haven't watched Rail Wars tho so idk if the quality of the animation is better than this tho.
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DatRandomDude said:
D-Joe said:

It's still hard to believe that they treat Rail Wars and Rokka complete different.
Sure they learn their lesson.

I haven't watched Rail Wars tho so idk if the quality of the animation is better than this tho.


Not about animation quality, it's the plot, they complete ignore the LN plot of RW and the original plot is pretty crap.
You can say it's 180 turn between RW and Rokka.
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DatRandomDude said:
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They also did a pretty sloppy job with the last few episodes. I'm talking about the derpy animation. Clearly they didn't really care in the last few episodes or their budget was really running out.


Well, its not a great studio who were doing this tho.
The only thing Passione has done before is Rail Wars.

Irrelevant, because the animation of pretty much all episodes apart from the last few was decent to good.
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Kruzy said:
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Disagree.
No one force them to watch it, why so salty? :S

It's not about being "salty". If I could choose between a studio making a sequel to a show I dislike or making a completely new show then I'll obviously choose the new one.

It's not like they're just going to make one more show and close down. I don't see a problem with a studio making a sequel for a show I disliked since I could just watch other anime instead made by other studios. Then there's the fact that some studios do multiple shows at once in a season so I'd be able to enjoy a new show from the studio and fans of the show I disliked would get their sequel.
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People are forgetting Rokka has a third revenue source, which is the legal streaming from Chinese sites. Rokka is probably in the top 3 most popular there and the revenue is still massive.

Well i think it's also pretty popular in west.

The Japanese Studios don't give no shit bout the west though.
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