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Jun 22, 2009 5:18 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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We get to see Isaac again in this episode but he's with Kajika as he has become her bodyguard^^ Eugene was also seen here and he got protected by Isaac when someone is pulling out a knife. Oh well, Li Ren and Eugene still can't get along as always :D Also, Kajika also meet Lumati in this episode^^ It's good that Lumati gets to meet Kajika's other candidate Eugene. Lumati slept with Kajika on a bed and Li Ren isn't too happy about it, thats pretty obvious i think^^ I like the episode because Lumati is actually getting a lot more screen time than Eugene and we get to see how much did he really love Kajika :) It's still uncertain which candidate will win though as we are only one third into the series^^
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Jun 23, 2009 8:06 PM
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Wow, li ren and eugene will be under the same roof for a while... i feel bad for lumati in a way, he didnt even get a chance to see his dad again and hes suspected of high treason...

I thought the scene where lumati proposes to kajika was cute but it was ruined by their naivety...

Looking at the preview, i wonder what that scene with kajika is about...
Jun 23, 2009 10:07 PM
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m1zzsandra said:
I thought the scene where lumati proposes to kajika was cute but it was ruined by their naivety...


Yeah I was like, "wow Lumati proposed asdfghjkl!" and the next scene was like... WTF WAS THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE JUST STUPID KIDS WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S LOVE, AND THEY DARE TALK ABOUT MARRIAGE? What's with this anime...

Jun 23, 2009 11:59 PM
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This episode was pretty good, though I agree with Blitzaga 'bout that marriage thing. And aren't they like 15 years old ? (or something like that ~)


Jun 24, 2009 12:59 AM
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They're fourteen but look 16 >>;;
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Jun 24, 2009 6:34 AM
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They're too young to be thinking about marriage anyway. Until they grow up a little in terms of maturity, then maybe it'll work out...lol. Kajika being thrown into this marriage game don't even know what romantic love is like...until she figures it out...she just treats all her husband candidates as friends or pets...rofl.
Jun 24, 2009 6:41 AM
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I sat there like SHOCKED when I read that Lumati and Kajika are cousins, even though I ordered myself to forget the possibility when I saw the eps of Mahati and Kathleen.
It was my favorite couple. ;___;
But I was still half amused when they were talking about Love & Marriage. In principle it comes to this: ''Let's wait till we fall in love and then marry!'' If more people would do it like that. XD
And damn that Quinza, he did something. King passed away and now Lumati is freakin' exiled from his own country! Yaro, he has to have some kind of weakness that Quinza. Let's keelhaul him! :D
Jun 24, 2009 2:53 PM
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Lumati's father has died, now it's time for Quinza to murder Somand and put Lumati on the throne. Oh, and the prince foolishly and carelessly proposed to Kajika. Impossible love of course since they're cousins and of different status, but well, we all knew that as much as Li-Ren knows it too, that's why he didn't do anything about this matter. I feel like Li-Ren has a clear edge over the two other candidates for the moment. Plus he's brilliant and knows Kajika better than the others.

Anyway good episode in terms of plot at least, let's see how it develops.

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Jun 24, 2009 3:07 PM
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I really wanted to like this episode since, like Jacut said, the plot is going in cool places, but the melodramatic direction and Kajika/Lumati's stupidity really keeps me from being engaged. Why was "evil" music playing while Li-Ren talked Toranosuke about Quinza? I really just don't understand the whole proposal scene, and Eugene talking about "humans" as though he isn't one.
Jun 25, 2009 12:53 AM

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Jacut said:
Impossible love of course since they're cousins and of different status


Just wanted to point out that the king of Raginei *must* marry into the family, as in marry a sister-brother-cousin-relative. And remember Rumati's mother is also a foreigner (it isn't explicitly stated in the anime, but his English mother is where he got his orient blue eyes XD).

I'm just enjoying seeing the plot unfold in animated (more or less) form.
Jun 25, 2009 5:19 AM

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I really wish there could be ONE episode without Lumati or anything to do with him :/ Least Eugene was there..

But wtf? He was exiled for treason? That's interesting..I'd like to know what Quinza made up to have that happen.

Though I'm starting to dislike Lumati <_< He's a real snot nosed brat. And wtf is this about Kajika agreeing to marry him when she's engaged to Eugene? She's really stupid and obviously doesn't understand what she's doing at all.

Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM

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@KayChan4U, Kajika isn't engaged to Eugene. He is just one of 3 possible husband candidates. Up to this point she has met two i.e Eugene and Rumati. She still has to meet the 3rd guy before she pick which guy she wants to marry in the future. lol
Jun 26, 2009 7:17 PM

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LOL. The scene between Eugene and Li-Ren was funny.

Somehow Lumati lively expressions got me to like him a little bit more particularly in this episode. Or, it's probably the effect of Mahati story from previous episodes. I'm glad he and Kajika are cousins...though that will be a complication in Lumati's part later. If I were to choose between Eugene and Lumati for Kajika omitting the fact that Lumati and Kajika are cousins, I like Lumati as for now.

Hmm, I wonder what Quinza did. Ah, I want more of Li-Ren x Kajika.
Jun 27, 2009 5:09 AM

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it's nice that Lumati got to meet Eugene but I didn't like the proposal thing these two are just too young ..the scene was just too straight forward

and Eugene should watch out for Lumati Kajikia is always stupidly happy when he's around. I think she's halfhearted towards Eugene she didn't even introduce him as her fiance then agreeing to Lumati's proposal immediately ! what's up with her >_<

it's not that I hate Lumati or anything lol
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Jul 4, 2009 8:13 AM

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i realy like eugene or ''mustafa'' lol <<im kajikas pet!>> LOL and the li ren vs mustafa moment soooo funny ^^ kyaaaaa and now lumati (btw im writing this while im watching XP) BLEH i hate that Quinza guy BLEHBLEHBLEH ... ah lumati <<i cant make kajika my wife?>> >////< <<i will make kajika a princess>> *i just passed out* *gets up sees lumati proposing to kajika* *passes out again*

wait ... WTH???? lumati cant go back?????

Jul 5, 2009 7:58 PM

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I was looking forward for the continuation of this ep. Eng subbed Episode 12.5 or 13 is quite long to release. I wonder why? :(
Aug 5, 2009 2:48 AM

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Blitzaga said:
m1zzsandra said:
I thought the scene where lumati proposes to kajika was cute but it was ruined by their naivety...


Yeah I was like, "wow Lumati proposed asdfghjkl!" and the next scene was like... WTF WAS THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE JUST STUPID KIDS WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S LOVE, AND THEY DARE TALK ABOUT MARRIAGE? What's with this anime...


Lol xD So true.
Aug 7, 2009 1:12 PM

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Lieila said:
I was looking forward for the continuation of this ep. Eng subbed Episode 12.5 or 13 is quite long to release. I wonder why? :(


Yeah, I've been wondering this as well. For some reason the subbing groups are either behind or something because they've come out with at least 16 episodes of this anime now but only up to 12 is subbed. I know it's probably been at least 2 months since they've updated it...It's really pissing me off because this is one of my favorite animes. :(
Aug 15, 2009 6:47 PM

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oh well Lumati and Kajika soundedstupid when they were talking about love

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Aug 21, 2009 1:00 PM

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Through out it all, I just pretty curious about what Kwinza did...?
And how different he is from his brother, whoa C:
Eugene Vs. Li Ren, was humorous... but they always seem similar to me for some reason.
Kajika & Lumati, may have gone too far... but it only makes me curious for the future.
Aug 29, 2009 10:31 PM

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Almost felt like Quinza killed the king...which wouldn't be too far fetched. By killing the king (presumably by lumati's brothers wishes) and having lumati exiled, there's no more need to try and kill lumati. Both brothers live happily ever after.

I almost forgot that Kajika was 14 but this episode made it really clear that neither Kajika nor Lumati should be thinking about marriage right now. They have no idea what love is lol. It makes sense now that Li Ren would be oblivious to his feelings for Kajika now too. He's only like 17 or 19 I think.
Sep 1, 2009 11:24 AM

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DeathfireD said:
I almost forgot that Kajika was 14 but this episode made it really clear that neither Kajika nor Lumati should be thinking about marriage right now. They have no idea what love is lol. It makes sense now that Li Ren would be oblivious to his feelings for Kajika now too. He's only like 17 or 19 I think.
Li Ren is 19 in the present.

Pros and cons this episode:
+ Eugene vs. Li Ren
+ Kajika and Lumati falling asleep after talking for a long time.

- (or +): obvious Quinza's doing.
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Sep 11, 2009 12:11 AM

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lol. eugene and li ren really don't get along well each other.. xD


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Sep 12, 2009 9:20 PM

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I enjoyed this episode so far and I am looking forward to the next episode.
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Dammit Quinza you're fishy.
If he's the cause of Rumarty being exiled then how does that further his plan on making him king, wouldn't that work against him?

Lol at Eugene just degrading himself, he's now pet status and I think he really enjoys that.

Also he's back to being quite a creeper staring at people from windows. I have a feeling Eugene is just going to turn into a gag character.

Kujika's character is so damn inconsistent.
Now, she's pretty much acting like the little girl she is, because that's what 14 year old girls are: LITTLE.
What happened to the gun handling, thug facing badass from earlier lol?
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DeathfireD said:
I almost forgot that Kajika was 14 but this episode made it really clear that neither Kajika nor Lumati should be thinking about marriage right now. They have no idea what love is lol. It makes sense now that Li Ren would be oblivious to his feelings for Kajika now too. He's only like 17 or 19 I think.


The scene in the garden really made that very obvious, time seems to be passing fairly quickly though so maybe there will some jumps soon as they're clearly not ready for a relationship at the moment.
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Seriously. Who can resist these puppy dog eyes??????



Rumati is so stunning, I can't even--
He was in awe of Eugene, but GADDAMN. Have you SEEN yourself???? *heart eyes*
Mar 15, 2022 12:58 AM

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fine episode. More dramatic stuff happens. We have Rumati exiled for treason and rip him not being able to see his dad.
We also see Rumati confess that he shall marry Kajika......I forget these people are 14 years old who look 17......aside from Lil Ren I think.
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Wait, 14? No way that girl is only fourteen. They really should have made her several years older to make it at least a bit believable.
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