What is going on all of a sudden?! The fantasizing and overzealous little grunt Glemy got first promoted out of nowhere, became obsessed with cultur and noble manners, was then suspected by Haman, developed negative sentiment toward women untrustworthyness, turned later into some thoughtful Zeonist, then a man loyal to blood debts and right now he is revealed to be a minor Zabi relative conspirator who build an army of clones to overthrow the regent and... what? still conquer the Earth?
I am glad to finally know what Haman had against Glemy, why she promoted him so high and so fast with no visible reason (the higher you are, the harder you can hide your your doings and plotting). This could also explain this obsession he displayed through Leina. That was pretty good and I actually thought most of those elements were simply stupidities among others. But there are some points I can't figure out like the others above me:
- where and when did he find the backup and money (since he is only a minor noble) for this Ple army,
- does the 6months thing means he was already planning to create this army when he was a mere grunt (I should check the calendar),
- how cloning someone who was treated into becoming a cyber newtype can produce newtypes (or did I misunderstand Elpeo Ple's nature?)
- how did Haman intelligence service never noticed a thing after she made it so hard for Glemy to make a move?
Sapewloth said:Plus we don't need a fucking Puru 2 : just one model of that little rat is more than enough, already.
I first had some doubts about the clones army. Then Glemy named the specimen "Ple Two" and I was like "What a great idea, this show needs more Ple!". Such a shameful reaction... ^^"
The Beecha problem was so artificial since the first scene (everyone congratulating Judau). Also, the conclusion? Did they (and are we supposed to) forget the previous episode?
2.5/5
Too bad I find part of the story progression illogical because this is actually moving in an interesting direction.
July 4, 2017
The 6 months origin of the cloning plan is really impossible. I checked the events timeline and if Glemy Toto's claim was right, he would have started this project around between the fifth and tenth episodes. Back when he was Mashymre's grunt.
source: http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/timeline.php
September 24, 2016
@CypherRage You saw his awakening to justice, honor and what he now thinks as his blood heritage. But yes, despite his supposed origin (the reason why Haman Karn gave him a high position to facilitate her surveillance of him, and probably why he was wealthy enough for all his "plans"), he was nothing more than Mashymre's grunt when we first met him.
The Blue Corps episode was here to provide a trigger to his extreme evolution (maybe) but wasn't enough to justify it. (of course, it was also here as a frame for the youngsters growth.)
Anyway, no matter what your position is, I suppose we can say everyone is equal against "love" (aka blind virgin attraction).
The time management though is really bad (see my my last note above).
edit @Nezperdian Do you have such fantasies?
@mshea1213 Thank you. ^^" Glad it has been useful
(I never thought someone would read this though XD, it was just a contest with myself to write a reaction for every episode and chapter of the Universal Century til the end of Turn A, and a way to write down my thoughts in order to arrange them when I was dealing with Zeta and ZZ who kept bothering me)
Good continuation with this series.
April 22, 2019
@FMmatron You probably have plenty of time for plotting when you're working under someone like Mashymre.
About the "development" or revelations, some of it actually help to make sense of various elements from the beginnings. Too bad the 6months window makes no sense.
FMmatron said: I thought it's surprising in a sense that I didn't see it coming at all. Glemy growing into a revolutionist? Maybe I would notice hints upon a rewatch.
For the caracter's change, I saw no warning, no seed apart the way he went to give more importance to nobility around the middle period. Nothing was shown before the Africa/desert episodes for me. Like the Ple's production calendar, it looks like a bad management of time.
For Glemy's origins, I found some early things I mentioned above but I'm sure people would happily dismiss them as lucky coincidences born out of Tomino's mad mind.
Good time with the finale (rather good) and happy CCA !
@FMmatron There are later events in this chronology (the visually sublime F91 aka the most magnificent animation of Yasuhiko's drawings and a 2hours trailer for 13eps out of an aborted 50eps series, Victory that was a really interesting try at new things by Tomino plus TurnA that acts like a giant epilogue, with a few broken things but surprisingly good overall). But the only connection for F91 and V with the past is that they exploit Jupiter, often mentioned earlier in Gundam.
CCA is really the finale, blooming into a great final shout of hope toward the future. Of course, you have other things if you count the modern implementations: the highly exploitative/fan-servicy Unicorn that prides itself as an epilogue to the whole 79/Z/ZZ/CCA chunk, and everything they are currently trying to churn out of that...
July 1, 2020
@St0rmblade Hey, it's me, Marrrrio ! Erf, Rei*
So, from explanations I've received and what I recall from the show, Ple is... the cutest and best thing that happened to Gundam (and Anno) ever ! Zut, sorry about that uncontrolled heart shout.
Elpeo Ple, the real one, is an actual natural born newtype (I've falsely thought that she was a CNT because of all the similarities in treatment with Titan's CNT). I guess they tempered with her to enhance her in some way, plus her young age made it so she ended up disturbed by all of that.
The Ple 2 ~ 13 (14? I 'm not sure anymore) are clones, and cyber newtypes : he cloned the biological material that was favourable to welcome newtype abilities (but ESP must be something that can't be cloned) and maybe the abilities were triggered thanks to CNT science. b Those are the ones unknown from Haman. But, like I said, given all Haman's securities around Glemy, this ends up super awkward in terms of story coherence. Something you already know is that Glemy was "promoted" to ùain common ennemy in the story because Tomino received the greenlight for making the theatrical finale (that would require Char). Little did he know at that moment, that he would be forced by the big heads to adapt his own novel, not even a rewrite of it, despite any problem of continuity...
But THAT is another story and only the beginning of phase 2 the second phase of annoying production meddling (that would reach its peak with F91 and Victory)...
PS: I've read you like, I mean appreciated, Ple's character. Hourra ! I'm so glad ! (after all the complaints we can read about this character in the West, I feel a bit less alone) |