Is Kokoro Connect woefully underrated?
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| Please go recommend Kokoro Connect for Hyouka so that it shows up on Hyouka's main page. Actually, any recommendations are welcome if they make sense. Or, I guess you can discuss how great Kokoro Connect is here. Original original post: Title: Underrated? Synopsis to blame? Poll is completely serious. I am upset that Sword Art Online is currently ranked at #44 while Kokoro Connect is ranked at #668. I am upset because the first four episodes of Sword Art Online have been okay as a whole but not spectacular, while Kokoro Connect's first four episodes have been flat-out spectacular. Of course, the rankings are stupid anyways, and Kokoro Connect will inevitably climb up in due time. But it would be nice to have some friendly discussion. One thing that's hurting Kokoro Connect both in popularity and in ranking is the misleading synopsis. The current synopsis we have from Sentai Filmworks seems to suggest that Kokoro Connect is lame, generic, and trite. The problem is that it is not any of those things. There have been some trite moments so far, but the anime has shown that it is much more self-aware than any of us expected it to be. If anything, Kokoro Connect is the most creative and promising anime series this season, and the setup so far only tells of its great potential ahead. So, any ideas for replacing the synopsis with one that's more accurate? Current synopsis quoted in full: The five members of the Cultural Study group that meets in class 401 have spent a lot of time wondering what it would be like to be in someone else's shoes. But they're about to learn that there's a huge difference between thinking about something and literally BEING in someone else's shoes! Because that's exactly what happens when, suddenly and inexplicably, they each find themselves inside the body of the girl (or boy) next door! What happens next? Well, besides bringing a whole new meaning to the term "Exchange Student" and the expected freaked out runs to the bathroom, it's not hard to do the math: Take one wrestling geek, the resident cool girl, the class clown, the popular chick and one sultry maid of mystery, scramble thoroughly and divide, and you can bet that pretty soon they'll be answering ALL of the questions they never wanted to know about the opposite sex in ways they never anticipated! |
ataraxialAug 9, 2012 9:49 AM
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| It's just a bit underrated in my opinion but we are still in episode 4, it is too early to get any conclusions. |
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ataraxial said: I am upset that Sword Art Online is currently ranked at #44 while Kokoro Connect is ranked at #668. Ehm, stop being upset about broken things. This rank really means shit. Only thing that meters are sales in Japan (and preorders aren't looking good for KC). Rest is tl;dr |
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| Why give a shit about airing anime scores. They're pretty meaningless to begin with. |
bastek66 said: Rest is tl;dr MartialCadence said: Why give a shit about airing anime scores. They're pretty meaningless to begin with. Thank you for your helpful and insightful contributions. For the record, the tl;dr version is this: Kokoro Connect needs a better synopsis. |
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| Submit a new synopsis then. Anyone can do that. The Database mods will decide if it gets accepted though. You could also contact one on that matter. |
| Its just about right. The show is somewhat slightly above average but its not that spectacular to say the least compared to a show like Natsuyuki. |
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MartialCadence said: Submit a new synopsis then. Anyone can do that. The Database mods will decide if it gets accepted though. You could also contact one on that matter. The problem is that the anime is still airing, so it's difficult to tell at this point what a synopsis should include. That's why I made a thread about it, so that people who have come across synopses on other sites can offer those for consideration. Also, people who have read the LN can offer ideas for the synopsis since they have a beter idea of overarching themes, etc. After all, the body-swapping arc is supposedly only going to last the first five episodes, so having that as the main point of the synopsis is also inaccurate. |
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| At least wait until the anime finishes airing. 7.81 for the first 4 episodes is just about right. It can only get higher or worse (if the anime somehow manages to suck). |
| Body Swapping is only the beginning. Afterwards they will be tested with other trials such as having to reveal their inner feelings and bodies turning into younger versions of themselves at random intervals. |
| I heard a lot of people judging it before because of the K-on! art style & assumed it was gonna be cute girls doing cute things with body swapping.So the synopsis,art style & people judging before trying is probably to blame here. But there is only a few episodes out,not even halfway through.We don't know if,when & for who this series could go bad.All it currently has is a good start. |
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ataraxial said: If anything, Kokoro Connect is the most creative and promising anime series this season, and the setup so far only tells of its great potential ahead. Pretty sure Jinrui is the most creative series out this season, at least from what I've seen. As far as this show so far, it's pretty good but it feels off to me. Like I said in the episode 4 discussion I think it is trying to throw the drama out there without really establishing the characters and, as a result, I could give fuck all about what is happening. Maybe the show will eventually prove me wrong or maybe I'll be proven right. But, either way, I don't think it's a good idea to say how good a series is or isn't until it's finished. |
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| Classic ataraxial ;). |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| It was just like Madoka. The synopsis for Madoka was the most bland, generic crap you could have imagined. It ended up being my favourite anime of all time (and there is a very large distance between it and 2nd place). That's why I try to give every anime 1 episode (at least the first 10 minutes if it's unbearable), no matter how farfetched, ridiculous or downright retarded it is. For every 5 or so cataract-inducing animes (i.e. fanservice panty shot eroge harem adaptations), there's 1 that surprises. However, I do go into an anime with realistic expectations based on the premise and previews. The premise is important, but what is far more important is the execution. Likewise, you can have an amazing premise and utterly fail on the execution (Fate/Zero's pacing... probably one of the worst I've ever seen). |
OmniknightJul 29, 2012 12:15 PM
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| "Its not about how you start, its about how you finish." Also being SAO is about an online rpg and many of the gamers are coming off their Skyrim and Diablo III high, they need something to feel the void until the next MMORPG comes out :P |
| i would say it's a bit underrated but seeing how the story going i have high hopes if they keep it up and finish the series good it's rating could go up even more. |
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| the synopsis does not reflect the actual point of this show so I would agree that is belittles it. ratings for a show early on are a reflection of the haters and the "everything is 10" crowd. There are always more haters that just quickly denounce a show and thus the typical low rating near the start. I hope it jumps up as the show reaches it's conclusion but who knows how it will be when it's all said and done. As of episode 4, this is definitely deserves a score between 8 and 9. |
| From only 4 episodes, only thing I could say is this anime is (Very) Good. Can't say it's great or a masterpiece. So I think this series' score is justifiable. This series has a score of 7.82 ~= 8. score (8) is Very Good rating. More like most other anime (notably SAO) are overrated. |
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Post-Josh said: Classic ataraxial ;). Classic Salas. |
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| My main concern is really that people are missing out on Kokoro Connect because of the crappy synopsis that makes it seem like a joke when it's much more involved than that. The bit about the ranking isn't as important, but the show would definitely be getting more attention if it had a hyper-inflated rating like Sword Art Online. I'm not saying that Kokoro Connect necessarily deserves a 8.64 average, but I do think that it's at least on the same level as SAO and has really shown much greater potential so far. So the discrepancy bothers me. About waiting and stuff: While I agree that we can't really judge how the good the anime is as a whole since we've only seen 4 episodes of it, my complaint was that it is underrated/undervalued based on what we have seen so far. Incidentally, I have Kokoro Connect rated at a 8 right now. For reference, SAO is a 7; Tari Tari and KoiChoco are 5s. |
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| It's really all about first impressions when it comes to ratings of a currently airing anime. People thought Kokoro Connect would be like K-ON with body switching and so the haters rated it low on purpose. Personally, I don't rate shows until I finish them, and I believe most people do this as well since scores change significantly once an anime ends. Also there's a lot of shows this season that are underrated. Jinrui, Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate and Tari Tari are good examples. People judge too early based on the first ep and/or the pic + synopsis on the MAL page. I'd wait until the show ends before worrying too much. |
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ataraxial said: -stuff- Stop comparing it to SAO, seriously. SAO LN is one of the most popular LN in recent years and also well received by many so there will always be fanboys who will be biased to their rating because they finally get to see their favorite LN animated. Although SAO is rated higher than it is supposed to be, the first episode showed a lot more potential, better visuals and much more better setting (MMO survival game) than Kokoro Connect who had a lackluster first episode and just starting to pick up in the last two episodes. Also, it's not like this is the first good anime to be snubbed because of poor synopsis. There have been a lot like this before. Don't like how it gets snubbed because of that? RECOMMEND IT. |
| I actually think it was because its only genre for a while was slice of life. A lot of people on mal use the genres to see if they will like an anime. Having an anime as a "pure" slice of life is considered boring or daunting to many. I noticed the genre has changed. So I hope that more people will keep coming out to see it~ |
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ataraxial said: Post-Josh said: Classic ataraxial ;). Classic Salas. I'm surprised you still remember that, maybe the fact that it's a palindrome helps. Also, I may revive this from my drop-list. Mayyy. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| I'm the only one who started to view this expecting exactly what it gives? The masturbation secret was unexpected but all the others things were not I agree that this it's not worst than SAO but that does not mean it deserves more, SAO it's just overrated |
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| While I don't think it's necessarily underrated, I agree that the synopsis belittles it. Still, yeah, it's too early to judge how it'll end up. I have it on 8 at the moment, but that's just because the 4th episode was pretty damn good IMO, and the next one is looking good as well. SAO is insanely overrated though...It's not bad per se, but the only thing special about it is the premise. And that's considering I didn't even read the LN, otherwise I'd probably rate it lower since they're apparently rushing things. |
Suzune-chan said: I actually think it was because its only genre for a while was slice of life. A lot of people on mal use the genres to see if they will like an anime. Having an anime as a "pure" slice of life is considered boring or daunting to many. I noticed the genre has changed. So I hope that more people will keep coming out to see it~ The genre issue is definitely part of it too. K-ON art + slice-of-life genre + crappy synopsis definitely made me not want to watch Kokoro Connect to begin with. That prejudice also lasted through the majority of the first episode, so it's kind of a big deal for people who are trying out the show. If they didn't go into it trying to fit Kokoro Connect within their conceived notions of it being a generic and superficial slice-of-life anime, they would be more willing to give it a chance and simply appreciate it more. Since no one has come up with anything with regards to the synopsis, I'll start drafting one based on these first few episodes. -Quasar said: Stop comparing it to SAO, seriously. SAO LN is one of the most popular LN in recent years and also well received by many so there will always be fanboys who will be biased to their rating because they finally get to see their favorite LN animated. Although SAO is rated higher than it is supposed to be, the first episode showed a lot more potential, better visuals and much more better setting (MMO survival game) than Kokoro Connect who had a lackluster first episode and just starting to pick up in the last two episodes. Also, it's not like this is the first good anime to be snubbed because of poor synopsis. There have been a lot like this before. Don't like how it gets snubbed because of that? RECOMMEND IT. The first episode of SAO was good, but the next three so far have been pretty lackluster, as you might say. Not that I didn't enjoy them (well, episode 2 sucked pretty hard), but they weren't anything special. Kokoro Connect started out a bit slower and was a bit more confusing, but all four episodes so far have been of high quality. I'm not sure what you're trying to say, actually. What's wrong with comparing SAO and KC? They have a lot in common. Namely, they air on the same night, they are both anime, etc. Jokes aside, I'm trying to get more people to try out Kokoro Connect if they happen to drop by the page for the anime, and two of the main things that are relevant to this are the ranking/rating and the synopsis. Comparing to SAO was just for reference. What I'm more concerned about is doing something proactive like fixing the synopsis or, like you mentioned, making recommendations. |
ataraxialJul 31, 2012 9:00 AM
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| no one cares about ranking when an anime hasn't completed SAO is frickin terrible at the moment while kokoro connect has hit its stride though so that'd be biased to use |
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Regicide said: no one cares about ranking when an anime hasn't completed SAO is frickin terrible at the moment while kokoro connect has hit its stride though so that'd be biased to use So you're saying that it's biased to compare a "terrible" anime with a good anime? How does that work? |
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Yvese said: It's really all about first impressions when it comes to ratings of a currently airing anime. People thought Kokoro Connect would be like K-ON with body switching and so the haters rated it low on purpose. Personally, I don't rate shows until I finish them, and I believe most people do this as well since scores change significantly once an anime ends. Also there's a lot of shows this season that are underrated. Jinrui, Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate and Tari Tari are good examples. People judge too early based on the first ep and/or the pic + synopsis on the MAL page. I'd wait until the show ends before worrying too much. I also usually wait until I have finished watching a show to rate it. The only time I deviate is when a show seems to be getting an unusual amount of unwarranted hate and I really like it (cough..MGX...cough). Then I will rate it a 10 just to bump the average that is decreased because a bunch of people that never watched it are rating it low. |
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| I also think it's because of the crappy synopsis we currently have on MAL. ataraxial, what do you think of Crunchyroll's synopsis? I think their one seems to capture what Kokoro Connect is actually about... This is what they have: Five members of the school culture club - Taichi Yaegashi, Iori Nagase, Himeko Inaba, Yui Kiriyama, and Yoshifumi Aoki - encounter a bizarre phenomenon one day when Aoki and Yui switch personalities without warning. The same begins to happen to the other club members, throwing their daily lives into chaos. At first the five students find some amusement among the confusion, but this connection also exposes the painful scars hidden within their hearts... When their calm lives are shattered, the relationships between the five students also begin to change! |
EjcJul 31, 2012 10:11 PM
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Ejc said: I also think it's because of the crappy synopsis we currently have on MAL. ataraxial, what do you think of Crunchyroll's synopsis? I think their one seems to capture what Kokoro Connect is actually about... This is what they have: Five members of the school culture club - Taichi Yaegashi, Iori Nagase, Himeko Inaba, Yui Kiriyama, and Yoshifumi Aoki - encounter a bizarre phenomenon one day when Aoki and Yui switch personalities without warning. The same begins to happen to the other club members, throwing their daily lives into chaos. At first the five students find some amusement among the confusion, but this connection also exposes the painful scars hidden within their hearts... When their calm lives are shattered, the relationships between the five students also begin to change! Oh, that's pretty good. I think it would be even better if we could drop the exclamation point at the end, but either way, it's exponentially better than what we have now. I also found this from a blog: The Student Cultural Club is a catch-all organization for students without a club of their own, a place where disparate interests can nonetheless find a home. It’s currently the home of five very different first year students: pro-wrestling fan Yaegashi Taichi; club president Nagase Iori; serious and snarky Inaba Himeko; would-be playboy Aoki Yoshifumi; and girly-girl Kiriyama Yui. But things takes a turn for the surreal when Kiriyama and Aoki show up to the meeting one day claiming to have momentarily swapped bodies overnight. Despite dubiousness on the parts of their fellow club members, such accidental and (blissfully) temporary body-swaps continue to dog the members of the Student Cultural Club. What changes will this affliction make to the burgeoning relationships within the group? |
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| Right, a better synopsys would be welcome. When I first saw the page, the picture grabbed me because the colors of that sunset didn't match the straightforward comedy those character designs were playing in my head. But then I read the description and I was like "oh wait, it's not promising after all". But I have no idea how to capture this show's appeal in two or three paragraphs. Looking at some other pages, I think I kinda like AnoHana's summary best. No lifelessly compressed details and misplaced hype, just a few lines with the hope that people will check it out and see. If it were me writing (it will not), I'd just describe the situation (five members of a club find themselves switching bodies at random and it seems there's more tricks coming) and the mood (though they're friends, trying to understand themselves and each other enough to deal with this may be harder than it looks). I'd probably even leave out the character descriptions because they really don't have the surface appeal to be worth condensing into 3 words each. I like Taichi, but nothing about a "selfless wrestling nerd" attracts me. Most importantly, the exclamation marks need to go. EDIT: Okay so Crunchyroll's description is basically what I said, except well-written. Go for it. |
Nyuu3Aug 1, 2012 3:31 AM
| Looks like someone submitted Crunchyroll's synopsis or a mod saw this thread and did it themselves. Either way, I re-submitted this version with a couple minor edits (notably, getting rid of the exclamation point): The five members of the Cultural Research Club - Taichi Yaegashi, Iori Nagase, Himeko Inaba, Yui Kiriyama, and Yoshifumi Aoki - encounter a bizarre phenomenon one day when Aoki and Yui switch personalities without warning. The same begins to happen to the other club members, throwing their daily lives into chaos. At first the five students find some amusement among the confusion, but this connection also exposes the painful scars hidden within their hearts. When their calm lives are shattered, the relationships between the five students also begin to change... (Source: Crunchyroll) (edit notes: fixed the name of the club to match rori subs, added 'the' at the beginning since those five members are only five members in the club, changed punctuation towards the end to be more teaser-like instead of being excited!) |
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| I forgot I submitted it prior to posting on this thread xD Just wanted to see the previous synopsis gone ASAP. Yes, it seems better without that exclamation point. Good thing the synopsis will be resolved in the end. |
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| I appreciate that you're trying to improve the awful synopsis (it's poorly written), and I hope you suceed in making it better, but if the Crunchyroll one is close to the truth, this is still a show I wouldn't be interested in. What I got from both was: there's a group of students (first offence), they switch bodies (might go either way, but looking at the genres, this is #2), and then "In the school, the three guys met. Their relation had been changed in the season, and turned into three love stories." (clawing at the sockets by now). |
phnsr said: #1: I hate highschool more than I did when I attended, but it's not a death sentence for the story. These guys are more interesting than most groups of students. They do sorta fit into certain stereotypes, but they develop those stereotypes into something more human and they have nice chemistry in their group.I appreciate that you're trying to improve the awful synopsis (it's poorly written), and I hope you suceed in making it better, but if the Crunchyroll one is close to the truth, this is still a show I wouldn't be interested in. What I got from both was: there's a group of students (first offence), they switch bodies (might go either way, but looking at the genres, this is #2), and then "In the school, the three guys met. Their relation had been changed in the season, and turned into three love stories." (clawing at the sockets by now). #2: What genres would it take to convince you? The drama tag isn't for decoration, their issues are pretty legit so far. The first episode mostly takes care of the usual gender switching jokes and such, then it's more or less used for character development. #3: Um...what? Well yeah, Taichi's raising some flags with his weird self-sacrifices and Yui is tsundere for Aoki, but as I said, the chemistry is there. I think it's gonna be fun. The show's only my second favourite in this season so I won't promise your mind will be blown if you give it a chance, but do consider watching two or three episodes it if you get bored. |
NyuuuuSaaaan said: phnsr said: I appreciate that you're trying to improve the awful synopsis (it's poorly written), and I hope you suceed in making it better, but if the Crunchyroll one is close to the truth, this is still a show I wouldn't be interested in. What I got from both was: there's a group of students (first offence), they switch bodies (might go either way, but looking at the genres, this is #2), and then "In the school, the three guys met. Their relation had been changed in the season, and turned into three love stories." (clawing at the sockets by now). #1: I hate highschool more than I did when I attended, but it's not a death sentence for the story. These guys are more interesting than most groups of students. They do sorta fit into certain stereotypes, but they develop those stereotypes into something more human and they have nice chemistry in their group. #2: What genres would it take to convince you? The drama tag isn't for decoration, their issues are pretty legit so far. The first episode mostly takes care of the usual gender switching jokes and such, then it's more or less used for character development. #3: Um...what? Well yeah, Taichi's raising some flags with his weird self-sacrifices and Yui is tsundere for Aoki, but as I said, the chemistry is there. I think it's gonna be fun. The show's only my second favourite in this season so I won't promise your mind will be blown if you give it a chance, but do consider watching two or three episodes it if you get bored. I don't really think that Kokoro Connect is meant to appeal to guys like phnsr anyways. Judging by his list, he prefers plot-based anime, preferably with action elements. That's precisely what KC isn't, so nothing lost there. The whole point of fixing the synopsis was because the old one made it seem like a generic, trivial school anime when it isn't. It's set in school, but it builds upon that foundation in an inspired and interesting way. But if you'd rather watch Death Note or Yu Yu Hakusho than Haruhi, then yes, it is kind of irrelevant either way. |
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| It's not quite right to rate an unfinished anime at the first place. So Yvese's exactly right, you should wait until the show ends before worrying too much. Also, there are people who decide Kokoro Connect "deserved to be watched or not" after it's finished. It's just majority of people tends to find anime through synopsis, it's bad for you to be concerned about it too much. If Kokoro Connect turns out to be great, a good review certainly comes and make "less" people missing out Kokoro Connect. |
| I don't care if this is underrated. At least I feel proud for finding a gem in this season. It's their loss when they judge it too early xDD The show is very good so far! :D As for the synopsis, yes it needs to be changed. It really was poorly written but at the same time it exceeded my expectation when I read that one. That tells you shouldn't judge the synopsis and art style as well xDD K-ON art is not that bad, really. |
| If one or two more people recommend Hyouka for Kokoro Connect, it'll show up on Hyouka's main page. DenjaX said: I don't care if this is underrated. At least I feel proud for finding a gem in this season. It's their loss when they judge it too early xDD The show is very good so far! :D As for the synopsis, yes it needs to be changed. It really was poorly written but at the same time it exceeded my expectation when I read that one. That tells you shouldn't judge the synopsis and art style as well xDD K-ON art is not that bad, really. Their loss is your loss. If the show is more popular, good things will happen: better chance of a second season, OVAs, movies, etc. There will also be more people to talk to about the show and more things to talk about. Also, even if they don't continue with a second season, the industry still take note of which anime are rated the highest and are the most popular and will use that information to inform their choices about which anime to produce. Basically, good art going unnoticed is bad for all. Good anime (gems, as you might say) like Kokoro Connect being popular and highly rated will push the anime industry in the right direction. As for K-ON art, it's more about guilty by association. The art isn't bad by any standard, but some people don't like K-ON, which is enough for them to dislike anything that looks similar. |
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ataraxial said: If one or two more people recommend Hyouka for Kokoro Connect, it'll show up on Hyouka's main page. DenjaX said: I don't care if this is underrated. At least I feel proud for finding a gem in this season. It's their loss when they judge it too early xDD The show is very good so far! :D As for the synopsis, yes it needs to be changed. It really was poorly written but at the same time it exceeded my expectation when I read that one. That tells you shouldn't judge the synopsis and art style as well xDD K-ON art is not that bad, really. Their loss is your loss. If the show is more popular, good things will happen: better chance of a second season, OVAs, movies, etc. There will also be more people to talk to about the show and more things to talk about. Also, even if they don't continue with a second season, the industry still take note of which anime are rated the highest and are the most popular and will use that information to inform their choices about which anime to produce. Basically, good art going unnoticed is bad for all. Good anime (gems, as you might say) like Kokoro Connect being popular and highly rated will push the anime industry in the right direction. As for K-ON art, it's more about guilty by association. The art isn't bad by any standard, but some people don't like K-ON, which is enough for them to dislike anything that looks similar. Well, most of those things (second season, OVA, movie, etc...) have no relation to what the synopsis on this site provides, which is an introduction to the English speaking anime community to the show. Those things are almost exclusively determined by the response of the Japanese fan base. However, lower streaming numbers could have a negative impact on the US fan base: No BluRay! Sentai has stated at more than one convention panel that they take streaming numbers from Crunchyroll, TAN, and Hulu into account when making the decision about whether to release a show with a dub and BluRay or to release it as a sub-only DVD. In that sense, watching fansubs instead of legal streams has a detrimental effect for the fans of the show. Every person that downloads a fansub of a legally streamed show that is a Sentai property is decreasing the likelihood that Sentai will fork out the bucks to put it out with the best possible home video package. I actually think we should all be working to pad the numbers by going to streaming sites and starting multiple streams of shows we like in the background with the sound off while doing other things! LOL! |
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zensunni said: ataraxial said: If one or two more people recommend Hyouka for Kokoro Connect, it'll show up on Hyouka's main page. DenjaX said: I don't care if this is underrated. At least I feel proud for finding a gem in this season. It's their loss when they judge it too early xDD The show is very good so far! :D As for the synopsis, yes it needs to be changed. It really was poorly written but at the same time it exceeded my expectation when I read that one. That tells you shouldn't judge the synopsis and art style as well xDD K-ON art is not that bad, really. Their loss is your loss. If the show is more popular, good things will happen: better chance of a second season, OVAs, movies, etc. There will also be more people to talk to about the show and more things to talk about. Also, even if they don't continue with a second season, the industry still take note of which anime are rated the highest and are the most popular and will use that information to inform their choices about which anime to produce. Basically, good art going unnoticed is bad for all. Good anime (gems, as you might say) like Kokoro Connect being popular and highly rated will push the anime industry in the right direction. As for K-ON art, it's more about guilty by association. The art isn't bad by any standard, but some people don't like K-ON, which is enough for them to dislike anything that looks similar. Well, most of those things (second season, OVA, movie, etc...) have no relation to what the synopsis on this site provides, which is an introduction to the English speaking anime community to the show. Those things are almost exclusively determined by the response of the Japanese fan base. However, lower streaming numbers could have a negative impact on the US fan base: No BluRay! Sentai has stated at more than one convention panel that they take streaming numbers from Crunchyroll, TAN, and Hulu into account when making the decision about whether to release a show with a dub and BluRay or to release it as a sub-only DVD. In that sense, watching fansubs instead of legal streams has a detrimental effect for the fans of the show. Every person that downloads a fansub of a legally streamed show that is a Sentai property is decreasing the likelihood that Sentai will fork out the bucks to put it out with the best possible home video package. I actually think we should all be working to pad the numbers by going to streaming sites and starting multiple streams of shows we like in the background with the sound off while doing other things! LOL! I was thinking that more people watching the show outside of Japan will naturally lead to more people purchasing merchandise and BDs once they come out, etc. That's an interesting idea about letting multiple streams go on in the background, lol, but I doubt it'll help much overall. Does it really matter if every single show has the same fraction of viewers not counted because they're watching fansubs? After all, they have to have some kind of quota for BD releases, and artificially inflating the amount of streaming for anime in general isn't going to change that. If something like that actually starts to happen, we'll have some sort of anime arms race with people trying to get their favorite show to have the highest streaming count using artificial means, which won't be helpful at all. It's not like they'll all-of-a-sudden assume that the anime market in the US has expanded, since what ultimately informs them in the end is the amount of sales they get. |
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Omniknight said: It was just like Madoka. The synopsis for Madoka was the most bland, generic crap you could have imagined. It ended up being my favourite anime of all time (and there is a very large distance between it and 2nd place). That's why I try to give every anime 1 episode (at least the first 10 minutes if it's unbearable), no matter how farfetched, ridiculous or downright retarded it is. For every 5 or so cataract-inducing animes (i.e. fanservice panty shot eroge harem adaptations), there's 1 that surprises. However, I do go into an anime with realistic expectations based on the premise and previews. The premise is important, but what is far more important is the execution. Likewise, you can have an amazing premise and utterly fail on the execution (Fate/Zero's pacing... probably one of the worst I've ever seen). Yeah, I feel the same way now. I used to just read the synopsis and what genre it was before I decided whether or not to watch it, but during this season I changed that. At first, Hagure Yuusha no Estetica didn't appeal to me. But for whatever reason, I decided to watch it just because I was bored, and it turned out to be my favorite anime series this season. So, I learned how the synopsis don't mean shit. It's like over half of the series that I've watched, the genres are mislabeled and the synopsis hardly describes what the anime is like. |
Czechbiohazard said: Omniknight said: It was just like Madoka. The synopsis for Madoka was the most bland, generic crap you could have imagined. It ended up being my favourite anime of all time (and there is a very large distance between it and 2nd place). That's why I try to give every anime 1 episode (at least the first 10 minutes if it's unbearable), no matter how farfetched, ridiculous or downright retarded it is. For every 5 or so cataract-inducing animes (i.e. fanservice panty shot eroge harem adaptations), there's 1 that surprises. However, I do go into an anime with realistic expectations based on the premise and previews. The premise is important, but what is far more important is the execution. Likewise, you can have an amazing premise and utterly fail on the execution (Fate/Zero's pacing... probably one of the worst I've ever seen). Yeah, I feel the same way now. I used to just read the synopsis and what genre it was before I decided whether or not to watch it, but during this season I changed that. At first, Hagure Yuusha no Estetica didn't appeal to me. But for whatever reason, I decided to watch it just because I was bored, and it turned out to be my favorite anime series this season. So, I learned how the synopsis don't mean shit. It's like over half of the series that I've watched, the genres are mislabeled and the synopsis hardly describes what the anime is like. MAL synopses just aren't very consistent in quality. A lot of them are pretty crappy to be honest. Same goes for the genre labels; a lot of them really make me scratch my head. Whatever happened to MAL Rewrite? |
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ataraxial said: Czechbiohazard said: Omniknight said: It was just like Madoka. The synopsis for Madoka was the most bland, generic crap you could have imagined. It ended up being my favourite anime of all time (and there is a very large distance between it and 2nd place). That's why I try to give every anime 1 episode (at least the first 10 minutes if it's unbearable), no matter how farfetched, ridiculous or downright retarded it is. For every 5 or so cataract-inducing animes (i.e. fanservice panty shot eroge harem adaptations), there's 1 that surprises. However, I do go into an anime with realistic expectations based on the premise and previews. The premise is important, but what is far more important is the execution. Likewise, you can have an amazing premise and utterly fail on the execution (Fate/Zero's pacing... probably one of the worst I've ever seen). Yeah, I feel the same way now. I used to just read the synopsis and what genre it was before I decided whether or not to watch it, but during this season I changed that. At first, Hagure Yuusha no Estetica didn't appeal to me. But for whatever reason, I decided to watch it just because I was bored, and it turned out to be my favorite anime series this season. So, I learned how the synopsis don't mean shit. It's like over half of the series that I've watched, the genres are mislabeled and the synopsis hardly describes what the anime is like. MAL synopses just aren't very consistent in quality. A lot of them are pretty crappy to be honest. Same goes for the genre labels; a lot of them really make me scratch my head. Whatever happened to MAL Rewrite? Well, they did redid the synopsis from crunchyroll, which is better than the one they had earlier. Since body swapping is one part of the story, its really hard to summarize it until its finished. But positive word of month could help the ratings go up. Heck I even redid my club layout to the show :P |
| some people do not watch it because they feel that this is an anime "gender bender" .. I think the synopsis need this sentence on them : "This is not a gender bender anime" |
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kururugikai said: some people do not watch it because they feel that this is an anime "gender bender" .. I think the synopsis need this sentence on them : "This is not a gender bender anime" I will admit that I thought it was gonna be another Ranma 1/2. But thanks to the artwork is the reason why I picked up this show. I liked K-ON!s art style and had it not been similar to K-ON! I would've passed up on this hidden gem. |
Jmac said: Well, they did redid the synopsis from crunchyroll, which is better than the one they had earlier. Since body swapping is one part of the story, its really hard to summarize it until its finished. But positive word of month could help the ratings go up. Heck I even redid my club layout to the show :P If by "redid," you mean accepted my second revision, then yes, yes they did. Now we just need one more Hyouka recommendation. Let's goooo... Edit: Wait, which club is this? |
ataraxialAug 4, 2012 11:27 AM
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ataraxial said: Edit: Wait, which club is this? Its a graphic design club, where I make custom graphics and other stuff. In the past it was a card club, but because I had to wait 7 months to get my pc fixed, I'm a little rusty on my photoshop skills and the need to create original stuff and not rip from fanart that most other cardmakers do. |
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