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| Masaki is such a slimy bastard. Anyway, he and Neko did a good job when they figured out what was going on. |
SerafosFeb 1, 3:36 AM
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| It's that fking trash Oosoto Masaki again. I don't want to say for the third time but if you still keeping this scumbag in this hotel there will be casualty in every single episode. He should be restrained inside the basement. |
何それ？意味分かんない  |
| Just wish Oosoto would just fuck off already he is absolutely disgusting. |
| Coming from a game player, I'm a bit disappointed in how they adapted this episode. The pacing felt off from the start with how it started in the middle of the adapted chapter (Chapter 4), and a lot of important dialogue were cut off, both for the guests and the main cast. Game spoilers for Chapter 4: I can only hope some of it will be adapted later on. This was my favorite guest chapter in the game, so I only wish it was adapted with more care. It would have been better as a double episode rather than crammed into one. Curious how anime-onlys feel about it though. On a positive note, I like the change with Tohru and Kyoko's heads. The glass slipper breaking was dramatic in a really good way. |
tsukaharanekoJan 31, 9:54 AM
My destiny is... |
| The way things are going if they don't get rid of Oosoto, very few hosts will be able to come back to life or pass on to the afterlife. And with the punishment of sending someone to hell when you murder someone being pretty ineffective, it's an even bigger problem. While Oosoto is despicable, there's no doubt that it moves the plot forward. But now you also start to distrust Kiriko. |
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| Such a fun assortment of characters in this one who play well off each other's strengths, compensate for each other's shortcomings, and exploit each other's vulnerabilities and lack of foresight (at least as far as Osoto toward Tsukahara). As things currently stand - he seems to be winning their little undeclared informal contest and out-maneuvering her to succeed in sending multiple guests now to his desired end for them under her nose; will be interesting to see when or if she manages to get the upper hand somehow and prevents his meddling as it's not a good look for him to continue to succeed in annihilating guests under her official care and protection. They have surprisingly good rival energy and chemistry together though. This crew may be a fair few licks spicier and more dynamic than Decim, Chiyuki, and co. Early days. Early days. It will be most interesting, for me, to see if this series manages by season's end to topple and supplant Ameku Takao no Suiri Karte from its throne as my #1 among the seasonals. |
WatchTillTandavaJan 31, 10:46 AM
| The only follow-up development from this episode that makes any sense is that everyone agrees to have Oosoto locked up in his room for the rest of the series. |
| Double post but whatever - I really like the slightly tragic undertone of how, if only the regulars had not interfered, the two memory-wiped visitors would've lived/died happily ever after. |
off-seasonJan 31, 12:42 PM
| That murderer keeps interfering. Why does he have free reign, he is not a part of the staff?! I really can't stand this and it is frustrating. He caused the misunderstanding and then forced her to kill herself. She was undoubtedly crazy, but she didn't have to suffer further than dying in the real world. If the creators wanted to anger the audience, they are doing a great job. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
Reply to ejleon
That murderer keeps interfering. Why does he have free reign, he is not a part of the staff?!
I really can't stand this and it is frustrating.
He caused the misunderstanding and then forced her to kill herself.
She was undoubtedly crazy, but she didn't have to suffer further than dying in the real world.
If the creators wanted to anger the audience, they are doing a great job.
I really can't stand this and it is frustrating.
He caused the misunderstanding and then forced her to kill herself.
She was undoubtedly crazy, but she didn't have to suffer further than dying in the real world.
If the creators wanted to anger the audience, they are doing a great job.
| @ejleon well congrats to the authors, I'm dropping their shitshow. Hotel of retards. May as well send people to hell or heaven directly. What a waste of existence. I'd happily gives this show 2/10, but it's my rule not to rate shows I dropped midway. I can't force myself to watch more of this though, just so I can score it poorly. Sighs... I'll just pretend I haven't watched this... |
Sigmar-UnberogenFeb 1, 3:27 AM
| The first two episodes, it seems to be a relaxing anime. The addition of Masaki seems to be polarising. He is the Devil who is always trying to induce people to die. This is low key a horror show. To be fair, Masaki is starting to warm up to me. |
I already have my favorite character, this girl could just disappear so he can be the main character, he's way cooler, damn! |
patkarunungan said: The first two episodes, it seems to be a relaxing anime. The addition of Masaki seems to be polarising. He is the Devil who is always trying to induce people to die. This is low key a horror show. To be fair, Masaki is starting to warm up to me. Well, I'm loving it, but yeah, that's typically how it goes - Shows which don't draw from the outset clear black and white boundaries (if not explicitly relayed verbally then intimated to the viewers) of what their characters are allowed to do or not, have it heavily implied or told to them by an authority figure what they should or shouldn't do, and reward or give reprieve to the kind and more innocent ones while punishing the nasty or troublemaker ones either right away or at all are inherently divisive. Because people like to vicariously see their own personal interpretation of "justice" acted out on the screen and meted out to the offenders, and even if that or something resembling that happens eventually, have little patience to even get to it. To just enjoy some of the uncertainty, mystery, and chaos of the time being, of not fully understanding all the characters' choices, motives, or knowing the future of whether the nice ones will be spared and the mean ones punished is asking too much of a large swathe of the audience. Personally can't relate at all, but this sentiment is widespread. I think, on the contrary, shows where anything can happen to anyone at anytime and characters are prone to ignore or break their own rules for obscure reasons known only to them (for the time being at least) are a hell of a lot more interesting. Why should a mysterious, unknowable cosmic entity which lies beyond the tangible and laws of physics on Earth, beyond human control or full comprehension, operate in such a limited predictable manner in line with the most common human expectations of fair play? The terror of being subjected to its mercurial whims is part of the fun and part of the point of stories like this. There are a lot of classic tales like this. The inhuman entity doesn't care about your pride or vanity, regrets, pleas, or tears. It has its own harsh logic it will enforce, and it's like trying to fully decode the mind of a god or completely removed alien species. Maybe I'm giving it too much credit, but ideas like that are a recurring feature in some of the best horror, Sci-Fi, and even classic fantasy. People stumble into these shows expecting no unfairness or heartache or something and for everything to proceed smoothly to a bow-wrapped conclusion even by episode three, four, or five. Why not just enjoy the ride? But those who can or can't, or will or won't, is that divide in the audience. |
WatchTillTandavaFeb 1, 11:24 AM
| Can this anime just have Masaki be the main character, I really don't care about the other characters lmao. It just cracks me up that the hotel staff just lets the random serial kill run around there doing whatever he wants. |
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Sigmar-Unberogen said: @ejleon well congrats to the authors, I'm dropping their shitshow. Hotel of retards. May as well send people to hell or heaven directly. What a waste of existence. I'd happily gives this show 2/10, but it's my rule not to rate shows I dropped midway. I can't force myself to watch more of this though, just so I can score it poorly. Sighs... I'll just pretend I haven't watched this... I can understand what you mean. I actually was enjoying the beginning of the show, but it has been becoming more and more frustrating. Unfortunately, I have a rule of finishing any anime I start, so I won’t be dropping it. I wish more people would follow that rule of not rating a show if dropped midway, but I realized a lot of people rate anime after one 3-5 episodes, which messes up the rating system. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
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patkarunungan said:
The first two episodes, it seems to be a relaxing anime. The addition of Masaki seems to be polarising. He is the Devil who is always trying to induce people to die.
This is low key a horror show.
To be fair, Masaki is starting to warm up to me.
The first two episodes, it seems to be a relaxing anime. The addition of Masaki seems to be polarising. He is the Devil who is always trying to induce people to die.
This is low key a horror show.
To be fair, Masaki is starting to warm up to me.
Well, I'm loving it, but yeah, that's typically how it goes - Shows which don't draw from the outset clear black and white boundaries (if not explicitly relayed verbally then intimated to the viewers) of what their characters are allowed to do or not, have it heavily implied or told to them by an authority figure what they should or shouldn't do, and reward or give reprieve to the kind and more innocent ones while punishing the nasty or troublemaker ones either right away or at all are inherently divisive. Because people like to vicariously see their own personal interpretation of "justice" acted out on the screen and meted out to the offenders, and even if that or something resembling that happens eventually, have little patience to even get to it.
To just enjoy some of the uncertainty, mystery, and chaos of the time being, of not fully understanding all the characters' choices, motives, or knowing the future of whether the nice ones will be spared and the mean ones punished is asking too much of a large swathe of the audience. Personally can't relate at all, but this sentiment is widespread.
I think, on the contrary, shows where anything can happen to anyone at anytime and characters are prone to ignore or break their own rules for obscure reasons known only to them (for the time being at least) are a hell of a lot more interesting. Why should a mysterious, unknowable cosmic entity which lies beyond the tangible and laws of physics on Earth, beyond human control or full comprehension, operate in such a limited predictable manner in line with the most common human expectations of fair play? The terror of being subjected to its mercurial whims is part of the fun and part of the point of stories like this. There are a lot of classic tales like this. The inhuman entity doesn't care about your pride or vanity, regrets, pleas, or tears. It has its own harsh logic it will enforce, and it's like trying to fully decode the mind of a god or completely removed alien species.
Maybe I'm giving it too much credit, but ideas like that are a recurring feature in some of the best horror, Sci-Fi, and even classic fantasy. People stumble into these shows expecting no unfairness or heartache or something and for everything to proceed smoothly to a bow-wrapped conclusion even by episode three, four, or five. Why not just enjoy the ride? But those who can or can't, or will or won't, is that divide in the audience.
| @WatchTillTandava just wanted to say your comment pretty much captures my thoughts on the series and you worded it so well. The heart of a mystery show, especially one with a setting like Tasokare's, is waiting to see how everything will unfold and embracing the chaos in the process. Part of the fun in speculative fiction is theorizing about the unknowns of the world and why the characters act a certain way. What's perceived as a flaw in writing or a plot hole is often something that could instead be intentionally suggesting something about them. |
tsukaharanekoFeb 1, 3:41 PM
| My destiny is... |
Darkinvaders5 said: ejleon said: That murderer keeps interfering. Why does he have free reign, he is not a part of the staff?! I really can't stand this and it is frustrating. He caused the misunderstanding and then forced her to kill herself. She was undoubtedly crazy, but she didn't have to suffer further than dying in the real world. If the creators wanted to anger the audience, they are doing a great job. Exactly this!!! What are the rules?? It's vague until the plot needs it. Also shouldn't there be a rules and regulations book somewhere the staff can refer to if they're confused about something?? why are there rumors?? lol That’s a good point! Where is the “rule book” to learn from and explains what the truth is or not did this meddle ground between realms? When the manager said it, it seemed like hard and fast rule. But I think the murderer said “rumor”, he was trying to trick the woman into harming herself. He has been a thorn in their side, I hope they get rid of him quick. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| I'm enjoying the direction this is taking. The new pair had a more interesting twist to the investigation and the tug of war between Neko and Masaki through the poorly understood rules of this purgatory gets my thoughts turning. Sure, a just force would want to stop Masaki and we haven't been told any rules that would prevent them from locking him away, but nothing's implied the hotel to be a force of good. The tarsier guy sure doesn't seem good. He may have been lying himself about the 1 in 50k. The one banishment to hell certainly wasn't just. Neko's the only one here who we can say with confidence wants what's right, and she's new and nervous and unsurprisingly losing the lead to someone willing to learn the rules with other's lives. |
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@Akaseaka Like Detective Conan? This anime most of the time writes murderer in somewhat "fair" reason behind their act, without making them to be an annoying suspect. I can see the writer so far just purposely make the story this way. Now the problem is, will we get the good backstory (again) of Osoto? Why does the writer seems really proud and confident to put this type of character?
Personally I'm not emotional so I still can stand to this series. But sure I also can understand if peoples dropped this series.
Personally I'm not emotional so I still can stand to this series. But sure I also can understand if peoples dropped this series.
| @SB-555 without spoiling the specifics, I can confidently say Osoto is a good character despite not being a good person. Though he definitely makes the story not palatable for everyone. A peaceful series about different people finding meaning to their lives (or afterlives) would be an interesting show, however, it is not Tasokare Hotel, which is the story between Osoto and Neko. |
| My destiny is... |
| Between the last episode and this one it just feels rushed. The guests stories are so linear that they're boring and the bad guy was thrown in so lazily just to be a "bad guy" antagonist it doesn't make me care. The other characters have fallen to the way side It's like they don't matter anymore and the main mc girl just goes along with everything to either get involved and mess stuff up cause she's manipulated by "bad guy" or doesn't know what the hell all the random or contradictory rules are. Also where the fuck is the fire head guy doing, is this how you run a hotel! At first I thought it'd be boring if they just did random guest episodes every week and didn't concentrate on FMC story or have a better story and now Im going WTF the guests stories are just throw away plot convinces for the "main" good vs bad guy story which is just badly written. I literally don't care about any of these characters and when I found out it was a game I was like damn this probably won't generate sales for it......sorry for rant but this has been maddening to watch and even caused an argument in my anime watch group to the point where one dropped it, one is gonna watch it by himself and I'm so done I'll probably speed run every episode on 5x speed just to get the gist. Ugh! |
Collins89Feb 4, 11:56 PM
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| Bro can't keep getting away with murder in the after like that! 😭 |
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Coming from a game player, I'm a bit disappointed in how they adapted this episode. The pacing felt off from the start with how it started in the middle of the adapted chapter (Chapter 4), and a lot of important dialogue were cut off, both for the guests and the main cast. Game spoilers for Chapter 4:
This was my favorite guest chapter in the game, so I only wish it was adapted with more care. It would have been better as a double episode rather than crammed into one.
Curious how anime-onlys feel about it though.
On a positive note, I like the change with Tohru and Kyoko's heads. The glass slipper breaking was dramatic in a really good way.
I can only hope some of it will be adapted later on.
This was my favorite guest chapter in the game, so I only wish it was adapted with more care. It would have been better as a double episode rather than crammed into one.
Curious how anime-onlys feel about it though.
On a positive note, I like the change with Tohru and Kyoko's heads. The glass slipper breaking was dramatic in a really good way.
| @tsukaharaneko OMG I glad I wasn't imagining it. After Osoto's episode the next episodes felt rushed... like the pacing felt pretty fast to me. |
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@tsukaharaneko
OMG I glad I wasn't imagining it. After Osoto's episode the next episodes felt rushed... like the pacing felt pretty fast to me.
OMG I glad I wasn't imagining it. After Osoto's episode the next episodes felt rushed... like the pacing felt pretty fast to me.
| @SolLamia I really liked episode 4 personally, probably because it's an anime original and written specifically for the length of one episode. But they really messed up episode 5 in my opinion. They cut out several important conversations and scenes, and the ending felt really abrupt. |
| My destiny is... |
| It is so funny to me how Osoto's first appearance in this episode is leisurely eating his food after the chaos he instigated last episode. He seems to be testing all the said rules of the hotel during his stay. As a game player, I love one specific line in this episode 😆 I look forward to going back to it in the future haha. What is that lore drop that Atori's relationships are short lived, don't leave us like that I already forgot the names of the guests so I did not immediately realize that this is not an anime original like the previous episode. Their faces are not a squash/shoe in the game. The twist and turn in the guests' story was good. So Kiriko's telescope can look into the real world! But I hope that Toru will NOT remember his experience in the hotel. He did nothing wrong to Kyoko. He was only unfortunate to be the subject of her obsessive affection. I love the tension and dynamic between Osoto and Neko. Osoto outright got involved in the investigation (he was casually sipping tea? during the deduction lol) and influenced Kyoko to do something memorable (it can be argued he did not tell her to off herself). I can think that telling the Manager about it to let him stay away might help, but in the 1st episode Neko herself who was still also a guest got involved in an investigation. So yeah the hotel's rules are really laidback. The volunteer staff are humans so there can be an expectation of having similar morals (like getting Osoto investigated after ep 4, or locking him up for other guests' safety), but if the human staff were not here it seems the non-human ones just do not care ^^; |
Otamegane0988Feb 8, 7:09 PM
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