Botsuraku Yotei no Kizoku dakedo, Hima Datta kara Mahou wo Kiwametemita Episode 2 Discussion

Jan 6, 9:29 AM

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U-NEXT streamed the second episode today.

I think I like Raymond more as a character than Liam. But yeah, more magical fundamentals and world dynamics. I'm seeing a kind of deja vu but Liam is already starting to make use of his magic. Asuna seems like a character easy to get along with. Feels like this anime is just simple in terms of sticking with its roots.

Jan 6, 11:24 AM

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EcchiGodMamster

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guh... this is so insanely mediocre... and you can already see the art quality drops 2 episodes in...

Jan 6, 1:23 PM

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Tupirs

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im tired of this face alr 😭
https://imgur.com/a/7Rr2DiB

Jan 6, 1:33 PM

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Nawic

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Good god this anime goes way too fast, how much do they have to mash into each and every second. I feel like a senile old person trying to keep up with and average tiktok feed. I'm hoping it slows down after a while, because i don't see how they can keep up this pace for the whole season. Other than that it keeps up with my expectations for a shitty isekai i guess, it might be turning worse than expected from episode 1, but i'm most likely gonna keep watching so who am i to judge.

Imagine basically surrendering you entire body and willpower to a 12 year old child you only just met through your friend just because he wanted to experiment some more. To each their own i guess

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Jan 6, 1:52 PM

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LacingMaster

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This anime is amusing in that it's somehow both bad and not bad at the same time.

It's an isekai, and it's spontaneous. Okay, mc-kun is a genius, as usual. But mc-kun is training, learning, and he's not a super mega op from the first use of magic. But the learning process is shown in a very ragged way. His months of training go into just one line. They were also too lazy to show the effort involved, the boredom of training, etc. Think of the "Jobless Reincarnation". The aristocrats are not badly portrayed so far, except for the strange law of the removal of the title. But even that has a logic. As I understand it, you can theoretically just give the king a lot of money and extend your title for another 3 generations.
The characters behave logically. Asuna immediately sees who her path to success is. The brother immediately sees a rival. The fourth brother realises there's nothing to do at home and has to leave.
The father sees his son's talent and gives him access to study magic. The nobleman of the palace notices the talent and decides to take advantage of it. So far, the characters make more or less sense. No cardboard villain yet.
As usual, we were slapped in the face with ramen, Japanese food and how cool it is. You can't do without it. Everyone knows the Japanese noodle supremacy. But the crafting and stuff went by so fast, it was like a gallop. 100kg of gold was embarrassing. That's a lot in today's world.
One of the fun things. A more or less inventive way of killing a caterpillar. Dropping heavy items from your inventory on your enemy's head is a good idea.
And the harem set actually makes sense. He is the son of a count, noble, with money, a talented magician without bad habits. The perfect groom/lord. Especially for a motherless hunter. And the bonus powers and rejuvenation make the picture even more attractive. Besides, Asuna obviously helps the guy where he's bad. Negotiations, for example. She's clearly better at that.
The whole anime feels like sublimated noodles. Typical Dosirac. It has taste and texture, but it's nothing like properly cooked noodles. It's a bit undercooked throughout. It's dry. No juiciness. No detail. It's like a rehash and a sketch. Maybe it'll get better, but it's doubtful. It's more like the opposite. There'll be harem building, crafting and city building.

Oh yes, an important detail. There are servants in this anime, and it's pretty cool. Maids, footmen, and they're not part of the aristocracy. The maid in the first episode brings mc-kun's clothes and helps him get dressed. This is very rare in anime. Normal portrayal of servants is rare.

Jan 6, 2:22 PM

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Jixxor

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The most refreshing part so far was that his brother didn't try anything insane like getting him killed but instead just shoved him off to do his own thing at the hunter's guild. Also a new adventurer and he doesn't have to start in E-Rank even tho he's clearly better than that? Insane. Assuming this has the typical S ranking at the top, starting off in B-rank seems very reasonable, and despite that he was given Jobs that are usually reserved for A-ranks because the guildmaster recognised his talent.

It will be just another 12 Episodes Isekai that lead into nothing, but I find it quite alright.

Jan 6, 2:52 PM

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AramisOfTheGrave

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I was iffy on the the first episode, but was enjoying the hunting and illusion stuff, but then the episode switched right into weird contact stuff. I was dissapointed. But I am glad that Liam seems to understand how much power he has over those he has contracted with and stood his ground at the end. I hope the 3rd episode picks up on the magic technicality and the plot. I'm all for a basic isekai but where is the unique bit this one adds to the trend?

Jan 6, 3:00 PM

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Marinate1016

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2 part premiere here.. first episode started off nice with shades of 8th son and 7th prince. Looked like it had potential with the nobles needing to actually do shit to retain their titles, then it just started speedrunning and introducing characters way too fast in the second ep.

I mean what even is the story here? Liam wants to be rich and independent, kingdom wants his abilities and he’s got a harem already? And why are all the cool events done off screen lmao. Animation looks awful too. Painfully mediocre series and it looks like the books aren’t much better. Certainly better things to watch this season, but I’ll stick with it.

Jan 6, 4:31 PM

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CheliosX

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Yeah 8th Son x 7th Prince for real. The first episode was decent but the second's pacing was too off tf. Asuna is his familiar now, Jodie became one as well because she agreed to let Liam experiment on her. And from the ED alone, 5 girls (first princess, Asuna, Jodie, elf/sylph, and werewolf girl) will have the hots for him.
Yea, it was bound to be a harem isekai slop from the beginning but hey, we can't have an anime season without generic isekai slop. I'll keep watching since I'm already immune to trash like these. Don't get me wrong though, it's good to pass the time plus my tolerance for isekai slop has a degree and thankfully, this anime hasn't gone outside of it. 👍🏾

Jan 6, 5:14 PM

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Hylianticipated

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Jodi’s younger appearance looked no different than before. I was so confused by that scene I thought I had missed something.

Jan 6, 5:18 PM

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Clayn91

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this anime manage to show so much unfiltered isekai cliches in just 2 episodes and all of it is just a massive train wreck. Its realy astounding how this show gets everything wrong simultaneously. Thats the only spectacular thing about this show, even for isekai trash this is one of the worst ive ever seen

Jan 6, 7:43 PM

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pandacyborg

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As someone called Liam who’s also a massive Asuna from sword art online fan, this has been a fun watch. Although the strange need of the isekai author to force “good” slavery into this story needs to be questioned….

Jan 6, 7:56 PM

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amf85

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"even if you did, I wouldn't mind"

Um...he's 12.

Jan 6, 10:07 PM

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OtakuKokiri

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Today's subject... slavery

Jan 6, 10:36 PM

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LeenPhoenixRae

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oh i think he can and he will say "no" to you to your face. or you'll just end up as one of his familiars then, who knows? lol i think that's what the princess wants anyway.

Jan 6, 10:56 PM

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Reply to LacingMaster

This anime is amusing in that it's somehow both bad and not bad at the same time.

It's an isekai, and it's spontaneous. Okay, mc-kun is a genius, as usual. But mc-kun is training, learning, and he's not a super mega op from the first use of magic. But the learning process is shown in a very ragged way. His months of training go into just one line. They were also too lazy to show the effort involved, the boredom of training, etc. Think of the "Jobless Reincarnation". The aristocrats are not badly portrayed so far, except for the strange law of the removal of the title. But even that has a logic. As I understand it, you can theoretically just give the king a lot of money and extend your title for another 3 generations.
The characters behave logically. Asuna immediately sees who her path to success is. The brother immediately sees a rival. The fourth brother realises there's nothing to do at home and has to leave.
The father sees his son's talent and gives him access to study magic. The nobleman of the palace notices the talent and decides to take advantage of it. So far, the characters make more or less sense. No cardboard villain yet.
As usual, we were slapped in the face with ramen, Japanese food and how cool it is. You can't do without it. Everyone knows the Japanese noodle supremacy. But the crafting and stuff went by so fast, it was like a gallop. 100kg of gold was embarrassing. That's a lot in today's world.
One of the fun things. A more or less inventive way of killing a caterpillar. Dropping heavy items from your inventory on your enemy's head is a good idea.
And the harem set actually makes sense. He is the son of a count, noble, with money, a talented magician without bad habits. The perfect groom/lord. Especially for a motherless hunter. And the bonus powers and rejuvenation make the picture even more attractive. Besides, Asuna obviously helps the guy where he's bad. Negotiations, for example. She's clearly better at that.
The whole anime feels like sublimated noodles. Typical Dosirac. It has taste and texture, but it's nothing like properly cooked noodles. It's a bit undercooked throughout. It's dry. No juiciness. No detail. It's like a rehash and a sketch. Maybe it'll get better, but it's doubtful. It's more like the opposite. There'll be harem building, crafting and city building.

Oh yes, an important detail. There are servants in this anime, and it's pretty cool. Maids, footmen, and they're not part of the aristocracy. The maid in the first episode brings mc-kun's clothes and helps him get dressed. This is very rare in anime. Normal portrayal of servants is rare.

@LacingMaster bravo that was well said!

Jan 6, 11:54 PM

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Miyu-Miyuri

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Of course it had to be a contract.
Well, the anime and the source material doesn't have the harem tag, so maybe all the girls will just tag along as friends.
Maybe they'll just use the contract stuff just so the girls can keep up with him in terms of skill.
I'll give it 1-2 more eps.

Jan 7, 12:59 AM

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MegamiRem

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Second episode and already 3 girls introduced, now we talking. They really got Toma chan aka Haruka Tomatsu to voice Asuna lol, same as SAO Asuna. That was on purpose without a doubt. Onee san voiced by Hayamin and princess is voiced by Itou Shizuka, this is some peak casting man. I'm so glad I picked this up. Though why tf did his skill make the onee san younger, why? The princess looks like Athena from granblue btw. Also that another world is the place from the first episode, guessing the girl will appear later and it's definitely more than just another small space. Possibly can open portal to another world like the name suggests.

Jan 7, 3:06 AM

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Jodi’s younger appearance looked no different than before. I was so confused by that scene I thought I had missed something.

@Hylianticipated

With being their master, Liam can both evolve and rejuvenate his familiars. As you can see from the episode, Jodi looked younger and her healing spell also strengthened.

何それ？意味分かんない

Jan 7, 3:30 AM

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patkarunungan

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I can't believe a gem of a show. Its title would say this is yet another generic show, but wow!

Jan 7, 9:24 AM

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PrynnTze

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There's badly written, and then there's this...

Jan 7, 9:43 AM

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PrynnTze

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This is actually so bad upon further thought. I'm not somebody who has a problem with stupid writing as in, well, what happened is just ridiculous but at least still somewhat plausible (maybe).
But this isn't merely stupid, it's completely and utterly braindead.
The only way to enjoy this show would be to either be mentally retarded or just shut off your brain entirely, not thinking a single logical thought and merely taking the pixels on the screen at face value.

Jan 7, 9:48 AM

#23

Limi

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Bootstarted the harem the second episode. Hopefully it doesn't go further downhill.

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Jan 7, 11:17 AM

#24

rbp_pbr2

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Oh great, another slavery isekai, where's anime John Brown when you need him.

Jan 7, 12:15 PM

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Hot-Pantaloons

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Kinda surprised how people are over thinking such a simple premise. This isn't some big convoluted plot or anything so complex, it's literally just fantasy isekai comfort food. Think Dragon quest, the writing is basic but the story is enjoyable. It's "turn your brain off" fun. Just be thankful we haven't been thrown into pointless insane conflict for the sake of conflict. Reminds me of "By the Grace of the gods" its just a light hearted story so far.

Jan 7, 4:35 PM

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A solid start with an intriguing premise and decent world-building. While the pacing is uneven at times, the blend of magic and redemption keeps it engaging. Promising so far.

Jan 7, 7:41 PM

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KANLen09

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Liam's eldest brother Albrevit sending him his way to the Hunter's Guild to become an adventurer, and this piques the interest of Asuna Aquage to form a party with him to quickly rack up the paces by defeating strong monsters, and a request from the Guild to defeat Carnivorous Caterpillars in the anticipation of arriving VIPs, in this case, James Stanley knowing Raymond, the master who trained him.

And true to his word, James seeing his potential to develop him into an independent adventurer, with the graduation gift of a hidden underground hiding the max-level grimoire that Raymond isn't able to utilize, that he hopes Liam would have a better use for it, and to an extent, he did, but at the cusp of leaving Asuna behind with how quick he would progress. All that takes is a familiar contract to boost Asuna's powers, plus with her veteran friend of Jodie's help, Liam is making good progress to be noticed by another kingdom's princess wanting a demonstration.

Miho Okasaki's ED is painfully average though.

It's good that Liam just wants to focus on the small and not go big, though how far would he be able to avoid the attention coming to him.

Yesterday, 3:30 AM

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researchscum

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it's not bad but it's not something amazing too, the wow thing is all the current woman va from top of the top line up! this thing got huge budget? can i expect something extraordinary happen later?

Yesterday, 1:22 PM

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This is probably my favorite anime this season so far! Obviously, as others have pointed out, it's not original, but no isekai anime really is anymore. I do have the MC's character pretty refreshing. He doesn't do anything very different, but he hits the notes he's supposed to hit pretty well. Unless we see anything more though, this doesn't really seem like an anime that can justify itself being an isekai as opposed to a straight up magical fantasy. We have very little information about his previous life. Frankly, the MC's "good boy" character would hit even better if we didn't know that he was actually just some middle-aged guy in that body.

10 hours ago

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Si11y

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Nothing new or unique really, but its fun show to turn your brain off and relax to.

4 hours ago

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FallNatsukashii

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Unfortunately, It seems this show will be yet another collection of hollow NPCs and a story filled with no real conflict or hard work by the characters. I'll continue to watch it as I hate myself and like watching trash-isekais, but this episode dashed what little hope I was holding out for it.

Liam (MC) just gets whatever powers he's working towards handed to him on a silver platter and is already the strongest person we know of in episode 2. The main female support, Asuna, was awkwardly shoe-horned into his life and within the episode is ready to become his "familiar" (which is really just this isekai's slave girl). Not only that, but some rando girl that Asuna knew was also willing to do so after 15 seconds of meeting him. It's all so forced in terms of story beats. I feel no sense as the viewer that I have to think, or feel, or discover anything in the show because it's all just slammed into you back to back to back.

Squadillah! We're off!

4 hours ago

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FallNatsukashii

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Reply to Tupirs

im tired of this face alr 😭
https://imgur.com/a/7Rr2DiB

@Tupirs LMAO I thought the same thing. It's so out of left field in terms of art cohesion. Reminds me of Great Cleric.

Squadillah! We're off!

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