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Aug 26, 2021 1:37 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I seen the movie at Fantasia, this was really good. We find the same theme of the author and she control perfectly. It's beautiful, it's well done, a touching story that leaves us guided in this adventure story which is very refreshing. The naimation was really good.

8/10
Aug 30, 2021 6:03 AM
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I saw the movie on August 22nd in Edinburgh (UK premiere).

It was alright. It felt like an Uehashi work but with only 2 hours it was very rushed. Nothing was given time to develop especially the characters.

The animation was good but not amazing. The soundtrack was forgettable.

6/10
Sep 24, 2021 12:59 PM
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Also thought it was alright. The beginning is very clumsy and it takes a bit for the film to let the characters breathe and get you interested in them. Even then it all feels a bit dry even though I liked the overall story and themes.

One thing you can tell is that the directors worked with Miyazaki a lot because the influences are very clear, the animation and designs pay a lot of tribute to Princess Mononoke.
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Oct 13, 2021 4:10 PM
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if it's already premiered world-wide in theaters... why hasn't the listing for 'air-date' been updated? i thought this one's trailers said Sept. 10th?
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Oct 16, 2021 6:37 AM
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KiliianSleipnir said:
if it's already premiered world-wide in theaters... why hasn't the listing for 'air-date' been updated? i thought this one's trailers said Sept. 10th?


It was delayed due to corona, again... It has only been shown on some special events in the west so far... Regular release is yet to be announced.
Oct 19, 2021 12:48 AM
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Tsarko said:
KiliianSleipnir said:
if it's already premiered world-wide in theaters... why hasn't the listing for 'air-date' been updated? i thought this one's trailers said Sept. 10th?


It was delayed due to corona, again... It has only been shown on some special events in the west so far... Regular release is yet to be announced.



ah! TYVM! :D i wasn't aware of a delay.
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May 9, 2022 6:53 PM
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The beginning was so rushed with the Aquafa/Zol war explanations. The narrator talked about it as a little reminder for aware spectators…
Jul 13, 2022 7:48 PM
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it goes without saying that i enjoy everything from or adapted by nahoko uehashi, so this is a 9/10. reminded me of mononoke hime, one of my favorites. it was all amazing, surprisingly good soundtracks and animation. i felt that it would have been better if the film was lengthened, in fact while watching it, i thought i'd much rather see the king of deer as a tv cour instead. very fast. there was so much i had wanted it to explore, including the characters. flashbacks of the conflicts and war between the aquafa and zol would be nice. but such is the difficulty of turning novels to a film that goes for a tight pace.
Jul 13, 2022 10:13 PM
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This was a really enjoyable movie, I love the historical fantasy setting and the atmosphere. The music was so good as well!

I agree that this would have benefited from being longer, or maybe even a two part movie. We are thrown right into the story, the history briefly explained at the beginning, but hard to remember when there are terms you don't know. However, I still think they did a great job with the time they had, and I found myself easily liking the characters. Hohsalle being sort of like the narrator throughout the whole journey to the Fire Horse Village was a very interesting and a good choice. I'm also a huge sucker for familial relationships, it was so touching to hear Van talk about Yuna. The line where Van said that although Yuna can't chew very well, her mouth is full of smiles T_T that was so beautiful. I also cried at the end when Van leaves Yuna, and Yuna asks when will he be back. The final scene as well, her smile when she sees Olaha.

The only other Uehashi work I've seen is Seirei no Moribito, and I just love the way there's no actual "big bad" in the story, and it ends in kind of like a, life goes on feeling, and she's not trying to solve any problems. Just merely telling a story.

Shika no Ou definitely deserves a rewatch in the future, and I think it'll be an easier watch as well since I won't be actively trying to remember the names and the history XD
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Jul 16, 2022 9:04 PM

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This is a lot better than Uehashi's other anime. I'm glad it doesn't have 20 episodes of padding.
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Jul 16, 2022 11:37 PM
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This is a lot better than Uehashi's other anime. I'm glad it doesn't have 20 episodes of padding.


Hah, I logged in to say essentially the opposite! I thought it was good, but basically all of its writing missteps were things that Moribito handled much better, imo.

Deer King has, like, 20% too many moving parts. It leaned into info dumps a few too many times for my liking. It was definitely necessary for the movie to function—it would be difficult to follow on a first watch without them—but it's hard not to wish for a more elegant solution, whether that's a longer run time, a cut side story or two, or whatever.

On the other hand, I thought Moribito's pacing was unusual but really rewarding. I'm sure the sorta-slice-of-life episodes would drag if we still had to watch it on broadcast with a full week between each episode, but I absolutely adored the slower side of the show when I watched it over the course of a week, a couple of episodes each night. It allows for way more satisfying character development, and lets that development happen more gradually and with a lot more subtlety.

At the end of the day, I really feel like Balsa is a character with complex and well-conveyed interiority, because Moribito's runtime allowed it to be expressed naturally. In comparison, because of the movie's shorter length, Van doesn't have much interiority beyond his backstory and love of Yuna (which is adorable, don't get me wrong). I just think I would like these characters a lot more if I had gotten to spend more time with them.

Visually though, Deer King blows Moribito out of the water, I'll freely admit that. Good god, this movie looks absolutely fantastic across the board—animation, character designs, backgrounds, it's as close to perfect as you can get. Production I.G., when they're at their very best, is the only studio that surpasses Ghibli's high water mark in my eyes. I don't think it can be overstated how good it looks.

All in all, gorgeous movie with flat but charming characters and slightly too much capital-P Plot. I'd probably give it a 7.

Fans of Deer King should absolutely watch Moribito, and vice versa—they have much more in common with one another than either of them do with anything else out there. I think the Mononoke comparisons sort of make sense, but are more superficial. Moribito, though. Wow. Stone-cold classic. I really hope new fans find out about it through this movie.
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I agree with most everything you say about this movie. The thing is, none of that matters if I can't watch an episode of Moribito without falling asleep. I plan to read the novels after I further improve my Japanese. 10 volumes is surely enough for a developed setting and characters. Production I.G should have adapted more if they wanted to air 26 episodes.

I just found out my public library has The Beast Player in English. I guess I'll read it now.

EDIT: After finishing The Beast Player, I now believe movies to be the ideal form for adapting Uehashi's works. The Deer King may have benefitted from an additional 20 minutes, but neither it nor The Beast Player needed a full 12 episodes for their respective stories.
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This was a weird case of a work that feels like it has a lot and nothing going on at the same time. The pacing, much like the plot, also feels fast and slow simultaneously. Overall it was ok for me, but not very memorable nor rewatchable. Nothing really bad in it, but most people would definitely prefer be watching Princess Mononoke, Sword of the Stranger or Seirei no Moribito instead.
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Truly amazing movie. Not everyone's cup of tea since it only appeals to those who like a slow pace of life. Pretty much down to earth.

Bawled my eyes out for Van's commitment to his ideals as a father. A man worthy of the title Deer King.
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Oct 7, 2022 7:34 AM
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This was a great movie but I find pacing as the biggest issue of this movie. The pacing was inconsistent many times. The other biggest problem I find in this movie is the ending of it, I think it was not necessary for ven(whatever his name is) to leave. That's what I think!
I'm disappointed in ending! Overall Rating 5/10! Maybe, maybe, 5.5/10 at most!
Oct 10, 2022 1:23 AM

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Pretty nice world building and scenery porn, Production IG putted a lot of work in the visuals here.
The story and the characters kind of reminded me of Seirei no Moribito and Kemono no Souja Erin.

One negative comment tho - somewhere in the beginning of the movie the doctor was examining a body and that used the same gloves to remove his face cloth...now that's a big no-no. He should've put the gloves away (for washing).
Oct 11, 2022 3:44 AM
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i dont know why the rating is down, but really it's masterpiece movie!
Oct 16, 2022 11:39 AM

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The protagonist should be drawn and quartered for betraying his country and siding with the invading forces.
Nov 10, 2022 8:08 PM

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excellent movie. reminds me of princess mononoke. cannot recommend it more.
Nov 24, 2022 3:32 AM

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The animation is actually very good! They are scratching frame per frame. That poor kid will never see Him again...
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Feb 26, 2023 12:42 AM
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Milet strikes again with a very emotionally packed song! The bittersweet ending left me heartbroken and yearning for more. Yuna growing up will make a grown man shed a tear...

I don't get the hate. Great watch. 9/10
Apr 30, 2023 8:04 AM

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Good movie, but it would have deserved a series adaptation instead of a movie

Erin and Moribito are masterpieces because they're well-developed and take their time to build up the characters, the story and the worldbuilding. The Deer King has, no doubt, the same qualities, however the movie format just doesn't fit.

So yeah, a movie with great production values and a great original material, but too rushed. It its way, it makes me think a lot about Tales from Earthsea, which suffered from the same problems of adapting a full novel into a single movie.
May 29, 2023 3:19 PM

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The final act fell a bit flat for me, but for the most part I was enjoying this movie. Also, it was reminding me of a lot of other things, all of which are things that I like. The ending song is even sung by Milet who sung my favorite "Vinland Saga" ED song (and "Vinland Saga" was one of the aforementioned things that this reminded me of at certain parts), which I was not aware of going in, but I had a feeling I recognized her voice. Just like there were familiarities about this that had me checking if Nahoko Uehashi was responsible for "The Deer King" in some way and lo and behold I was right. She does like to include specific elements in her all of her stories.
Jul 16, 2023 4:21 PM

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NGL it was better than expected. Certainly enjoyed. 
Jul 30, 2023 9:56 AM
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It is great. just the middle Part was a bit boring. but the end is amazing and heart warming.
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A father's love is unconditional. 💜 I was eating popcorn and enjoying this with a new sound bar and the goosebumps it gave was unreal! My goodness, the atmosphere is beautiful. From the breezy hillside to the trickling rivers and songbirds caroling through the woodland. I could feel the warm sun and the dire need to see peace reign in this world.

Love the characters and the overall message. Using hatred as a literal infectious disease is an interesting concept. Particularly regarding the children who were willing to infect themselves in honor of their village. This movie did such a good job of illustrating the entanglements of culture and beliefs. Which made it easy to gravitate towards Yugraul's character. The respect he has for the villages and their people, while introducing knowledge and compassion for the sick.

The cure for the Black Wolf Fever wasn't obvious at first, something else that drew me in. This gave weight to Yugraul's mission as a doctor and credibility to his experience.

Then there's Daddy Van whom I couldn't get enough of. The moments between him and Yuna are too precious!

That's a thumbs up for me!




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