What did you think of this episode?
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4Liked it!
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3It was OK
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2Disliked it
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Average 3.3
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Not bad for the OP song. It's intense and works for this show so far. The art style changed from the previous Basilisk so might have to get used to that. Episode started with some destruction and chaos already. I think this show is going to retain this type of mood for the majority of the season. Action is nice so far as well. I'm curious to learn more about Hibiki Iga though. She's a girl that has my curiousity so far. Same with Hachirou. |
Stark700Jan 8, 2018 9:32 AM
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| When the hell did Oboro and Gennousuke even have a chance to conceive children (Twins?) lol But putting that aside for now, I'm guessing that based on that intro, Nobunaga is going to be the main antagonist since they hinted that he cheated death (IIRC, he was the one that caused the war/hatred between Iga and Kouga to reignite when Oboro and Gen's grandparents were gonna get married to unite the two clans) so that in itself would be pretty interesting if it is truly the case I also loved seeing how both the Iga and Kouga are kind of at peace and are coinciding with one another....The passing of the torch to the younger generation is pretty awesome to see especially since I love to see series that I love continue in directions like this....That little spar that they had was kinda reminiscent of how both clans fought against each other in the previous series (I wonder if the girl that cried and then aroused that one kid is related to Kagerou) Lastly, despite all of these positives (Like how the gore hasn't really been toned down and that the actions scenes are still pretty nice) I'm kinda put off by the fact that they're trying to push this damn incestual relationship between brother and sister.....I know that kind of thing was common in these times but come on man....Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy -_- Regardless, I'm looking forward to learning more about these kids and especially our two sibling MC's....The OP and ED were pretty fitting for this kind of series too and I liked that a lot....Pretty good start overall if you ask me pioneer782 said: I don't think so, but it would probably be better if you did just in case (Like they referenced events and techniques in the previous series in this episode for example)Do I have to watch the prequel before watching this show? |
TokoyaJan 8, 2018 10:05 AM
| Engaging first episode. The OP and ED are done by the same performers as in the first series. The incest thing is probably going to be used as serious matter and as a mean to move the plot forward. |
| After watching the first episode, i need to remember, because the prequel series i watched time ago and i am a little confused!!! Well, the first episode was nice to me!!! |
| Flipper babies is the goal of the tribe? Mmmm... okay. Good luck with that. |
| Wait. When did Oboro and Gennosuke have children? |
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| Everyone on MAL knows I'm a huge fan of the entire original Basilisk novel by original author and the manga and anime adaptations of it that were done by Masaki Segawa, the original successor to original author and his work, but even I just don't understand the story of this new one. True it's been only 1 episode and its probably too early to judge, but straight from the start its weird. Looks like Kouga and Iga clan are now at peace, considering that the leaders of those two clans are now brother and sister, and their guardians, at least the ones from the Kouga clan, are trying to pair them up. Original Kouga clan members were all honorable. The rapists and cheaters were from the Iga clan. I don't know how to feel about this. Aside from that, awesome OP and ED, both visually and the music score, as well as the animation, its not as clean and dark as the original, but its ok, also loved the small hints back to the original anime. Will def keep watching to see where all of this goes and can it really hold up to OG Basilisk. |
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| For the first 5 minutes or so I was worried that we were getting a chibi version of Basilisk. Mercifully adult sized characters showed up. It does feel like they have toned the violence down a single notch and made this a bit more appealing to a broader audience. Major_Gilbert said: Wait. When did Oboro and Gennosuke have children? That is too the main question to be answered here. Unless of course the creators of this particular series don't give a damn about continuity or canon and are just asking to roll with this as a standalone series. In which case they would be wise to avoid too many mentions of events of the first one. Ramkec said: True it's been only 1 episode and its probably too early to judge, but straight from the start its weird. Looks like Kouga and Iga clan are now at peace, considering that the leaders of those two clans are now brother and sister, and their guardians, at least the ones from the Kouga clan, are trying to pair them up. Original Kouga clan members were all honorable. The rapists and cheaters were from the Iga clan. I don't know how to feel about this. I felt that way too. After all the crap they did on each other, you cannot help but thinking they're going to be at each others throats in less than a couple of episodes. Just for the record, I wouldn't go so far as saying all the Kouga were honorable. Wasn't the hunchback a bit of a sadist? Or do I have a wrong recollection? |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Oh, guys, I'm confused. The original series was pretty intuitive, but here everything is so confusing and unspoken that this show really looks like a medieval Japanese manuscript. And what kind of brother and sister did they talk about? If the main characters, then why they have different looks and they belong to different clans? Who are their parents? Oh, I do not understand. |
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Farabeuf said: Just for the record, I wouldn't go so far as saying all the Kouga were honorable. Wasn't the hunchback a bit of a sadist? Or do I have a wrong recollection? Yeah he was a bit more weird but he never tried to rape anyone as I remember right, compared to like Tenzen or the old bald guy from Iga who tried to rape the Kouga girl in that barn when they captured her as well. |
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Ramkec said: Original Kouga clan members were all honorable. The rapists and cheaters were from the Iga clan. I have to agree with that, I always felt more sympathetic to the Kouga clan than the Iga clan. I'd say the only good person was Oboro in the other one. |
"Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
| I didn't watch the episode, i'm just starting it but what the hell are these characters design? Seriously! Even if i like the episode i will be dissapointed :( . I think that apart than me there are others who liked the old basilisk for their character design. Edited: I watched it, it was tolerable but it is not baslisk, they could have called it ninja's city or something like that. There is no flavor at all, they are not basilisk characters or ninja scroll characters here. It is another kind of history, another kind of characters, design and all. I can't say that it will be ok or not yet, but i can say that it is not basilisk. |
War_lotharJan 8, 2018 4:16 PM
War_lothar said: I didn't watch the episode, i'm just starting it but what the hell are these characters design? Seriously! Even if i like the episode i will be dissapointed :( . I think that apart than me there are others who liked the old basilisk for their character design. They have different authors, all the more, the original shounen's style would now look too kitsch. |
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RobertBobert said: War_lothar said: I didn't watch the episode, i'm just starting it but what the hell are these characters design? Seriously! Even if i like the episode i will be dissapointed :( . I think that apart than me there are others who liked the old basilisk for their character design. They have different authors, all the more, the original shounen's style would now look too kitsch. Y, I understand, thank you, i just watched it before knowing anything of this. Not saying that it is bad but it has nothing to do with the old basilisk. |
War_lothar said: RobertBobert said: They have different authors, all the more, the original shounen's style would now look too kitsch. Y, I understand, thank you, i just watched it before knowing anything of this. Not saying that it is bad but it has nothing to do with the old basilisk. Well, this is expected, when the continuation was written not by the original author, but by his "successor." Personally, I'm more annoyed by these static shots in the style of the old anime. When I saw them, I had the feeling that someone had stopped me by force and did not let me pass on. |
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| Unfortunately, the art and the animation quality are low compared to the prequel. I hope the show won't be a super-inflated battle action like Naruto or Fate. |
| i didn't dislike it ,most of my knowledge of Basilisk is it's name lol that training? set the tone pretty much for these characters though i feel like we should be somewhat aware of them already i'll give it a few more to judge if i'll keep going with it. shame feel like this would be right up Madhouses alley to work on. |
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| Good thing I kept expectations low. The only kill in the episode was off-screen, looking like gore will be toned way down. Guess I'll have to wait for them to grow up, shame since the original wasted no time. As for the siblings, there's no way any explanation will be satisfactory. Probably lolninpo. Not sure if I even want one. |
QuattroVaginasJan 9, 2018 10:25 AM
| Sieg Zeon! |
| hmmm never watched the S1 but seems to be a lot of brutal samurai action! Nana Mizuki as the Narrator...not bat huh.... 4/5. |
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| Wow, the opening battle from episode 1 12 years ago looks waay better than what we got. Those fights were horrible. Ramkec said: Farabeuf said: Just for the record, I wouldn't go so far as saying all the Kouga were honorable. Wasn't the hunchback a bit of a sadist? Or do I have a wrong recollection? Yeah he was a bit more weird but he never tried to rape anyone as I remember right, compared to like Tenzen or the old bald guy from Iga who tried to rape the Kouga girl in that barn when they captured her as well. It was the salt/water? dude that tried to rape the Kouga girl. The old bald guy said he wasn't interested/impotent from what I remember. |
CtrlZEDJan 9, 2018 12:36 AM
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| Crazy how Basilisk got a sequel after all these years. Then again, even Full Metal Panic is getting a sequel soon. All we need now is another season of Spice & Wolf... |
| I'm kind of disappointed in the art, it's a bit too flashy for what I expected of a Basilisk sequel. I hope the story lives up to expectations though. Let's see how it goes Need to go and re-watch the original, I don't remember a thing aside from loving it |
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| When appeared the 5 ninja in middle of the rain was cool too!!! |
CtrlZED said: It was the salt/water? dude that tried to rape the Kouga girl. The old bald guy said he wasn't interested/impotent from what I remember. Yeah it could be that too, its been a while since I've skimmed over Basilisk manga to check for details like that. But anyways they're both Iga members so same stuff, heh. |
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| Pretty much not my taste... Hope it gets more interesting, I'm not interested in fights between ninjas, I never was. |
| Trying to watch all available anime series so you won't have to anymore, the list of anime I can recommend is still in progress, tho |
valoon said: Pretty much not my taste... Hope it gets more interesting, I'm not interested in fights between ninjas, I never was. I don't think that watching something about fighting ninjas is a good idea then. :P |
| For these new clan heads to be Oboro and Gennosuke's children... Oboro would have given birth to them way before the events of the original Basilisk, and then someone would of course have had taken care of them in secret, or at least Gennosuke and us never knew about them, then whoever took care of them initially reveals the secret in a way that the clans would have come to accept these kids as the new successors for the clan, except that it doesn't makes sense, if they are really the children of Oboro and Gennosuke then the 2 clans should have joined and Hachirou should be the head of both. I think that this is probably a "sequel" that takes place in an alternate universe, like Dragon Ball GT but with Basilisk. Edit: also for some reason Tenzen the main villain who tried to constantly usurp power is now revered as a hero and has his own mount... It is clear that this episode is just bait for old fans to question how did the damn story turn into this mess, while presenting itself as a lukewarm 1st episode to new watchers. |
DoomroarJan 9, 2018 9:27 AM
| One of the guy's powers is a fucking gun? That's it? Basilisk the original made it work by using seemingly mundane powers in clever ways to engage in fights, this time around its a watered down version. And the animators are so lazy the paused scenes so they wouldn't have to do an animation of the lip flap. The story is just luke warm and mediocre, the original Basilisk moved at such a fast pace you would have one or multiple deaths an episode, as it slowed to the climax which was pretty boring, but this doesn't have any meat whatsoever, the characters they introduced and their poorly thought out abilities.... jesus fuck this is hollywood remake bad tier. I'll give it 5 episodes to win me over. |
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| episode 1 is disappointing, from the animation, story, nearly everything... oh the songs are nice tho |
| That was a hell of a start. Ended weirdly I thought though. I'm definitely in for the season. |
| Stark difference between the first episode of the first series and this episode. The other had an epic fight scene. Better art. Setting and story draws you in right away. This one is confusing and underwhelming. Fight from first series: |
| I was completely unaware Basilisk was going to have a sequel. The first ep was weird but it is way too early too judge. I hope it lives up to the prequel's greatness. |
| Yes, underwhelming that’s the only word I have to describe this. Not only in the way the story was presented, but also visually. You got to admit that the difference between both series, especially in terms of production values, is noticeable by a mile. Like shown in that above video (fight scene) put by that one user. I will give it a go for the time being, but, again, I’m not expecting too much. I will more likely end up dropping it. |
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| they got Onmyouza to sing the OP!! awesome but i gotta say it wasn't as epic as the original was |
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| The last couple of scenes were at the same level (gore) like the prequel... I hope they expand more, even if it a tiny bit about the past protagonist and looking the preview, they are going to do exactly that… |
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| Awkward moment when there's the possibility of incest...but it's cool because the whole village ships it. Meh. It was okay, I guess. I dropped the original Basilisk a few eps in and I don't think this is even on par with that one. The art/animation suffered as well. Pretty sure the 2005 one looked miles better! Probably won't be keeping up with this one. |
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| I truly wonder why studios keep pushing the ‘broader audience’ perspective. Less gore, censored murder, possibly little to no blood on screen. They truly want to make it seem as if all anime are for children. I only recently finished Kouga Ninpou Chou so the prequel is still fresh in mind — this does not look like Basilisk, I can only hope that this one episode was a ‘flashback’ and that the characters have grown up in the next. |
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| Gonzo was going to downhill because of this series....the production really put a lot of effort on the quality but got betrayed by fans from the original series for not buying. |
| It's weird. I read the gist of what happened in the prequel series, but what went on in this first episode still feels weird, and after reading this thread it seems it looks weird not only to me, plus added plotholes and inconsistencies as a questionable bonus, huh? Not to mention all those incest hints... I guess I'll tentatively watch until the inevitable timeskip or until the weirdness gets the better of me and I stop understanding what's going on completely... |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Maybe it's becasue I haven't seen the original in years but some stuff in this really confused me. The following is potential spoilers and speculation based on Cruchyroll's description of the series. That's my guesses anyway. |
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