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does Vagabond really needs to be animated?
Jan 30, 6:30 AM
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This isn't exactly brand-news, and this topic has been written down before, but i came across this article and i thought of sharing, and query, with the community.

‘Vagabond’ Anime Adaptation

Vagabond manga is a magnum-opus, and the idea of an animation, particularly by a non-Japanese studio, is a reluctant one.

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Jan 30, 6:48 AM
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Technically, no manga "needs" to be animated. That's just a form of speech people use when they really want this or that manga to be animated.

In regards to Fortiche Studio's desire to animate Vagabond, this isn't an idea I am too keen on. I liked their work on Arcane, but I can't deny I prefer 2D over Fortiche's 3D, especially when it comes to a Japanese historical manga like Vagabond.

Also, the thread title name is very misleading to its actual content, with its actual content being Fortiche's aforementioned desire, something that was already discussed in the sub-forum. And your knowledge of it makes this thread even more pointless.
Jan 30, 6:56 AM
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no,animated means more popularity
which I don't want
Jan 30, 6:57 AM
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Ofcourse,Hope Mappa or ufotable picks it up, madhouse is fine too.
Jan 30, 7:13 AM
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except to get it more popular, there isn't any other good reason
Jan 30, 7:28 AM
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Abzy1239 said:
no,animated means more popularity
which I don't want

Wow, what a braindead take
Jan 30, 7:34 AM
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I don't think there is studio out there that is good enough to animate a story like Vagabond.
Jan 30, 7:59 AM
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tsubagakure said:
particularly by a non-Japanese studio


It happened before. The Summit Of The Gods on Netflix adapted by a french studio.

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Jan 30, 8:04 AM
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Live action would probably be better. or CGI like Slam Dunk is fine.


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Jan 30, 8:37 AM
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IMO no if it’s gonna be another Bersek 2016 then fk that it’ll be a waste of resources to make it anyways if the series does not end up looking as good as the manga which won’t ever happen as Inoue’s art is very hard to replicate cuz bro’s just too talented for his own good.
Jan 30, 8:56 AM
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Make it like Vinland saga animation.
Jan 30, 9:48 AM
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To do the art justice would take more money and effort than any studio would be willing/able to provide. We could get a good OST out of it, but I really have no faith in an anime living up to the manga.
Jan 30, 10:09 AM
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Old_School_Akira said:
Live action would probably be better. or CGI like Slam Dunk is fine.



There is the live action Samurai Trilogy from 1954 starring Toshiro Mifune who starred in a lot of Kurosawa films. It predates the manga, but it's based on the same novel that the manga is based on.
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Old_School_Akira said:
Live action would probably be better. or CGI like Slam Dunk is fine.



he played Mushashi before, He can play it again!!
But I guess considering his age, he wouldnt be suitable. Atleast it wouldnt look good!!

I wouldnt trust anybody but Horoyuki Sanada to produce a live action adaptation of Vagabond, even if he doesnt play the MC.
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Uruichi said:
IMO no if it’s gonna be another Bersek 2016 then fk that it’ll be a waste of resources to make it anyways if the series does not end up looking as good as the manga which won’t ever happen as Inoue’s art is very hard to replicate cuz bro’s just too talented for his own good.

Geez!! Berserk 2016 is living rent free up your head!! Move on!!
There have been good CG adaptations from Japanese studios. Especially studio Orange. and Studio 4°C's works on berserk looks much better.
Jan 30, 10:52 AM
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Live action would be better, it would just be able to capture to better than an anime imo, like the kingdom movies, they are so gooood, literally brings the series to life

And if it is to be animated, I'd rather it be cgi than anything, maybe by a studio like digital frontier, their work on gantz was pretty good, and even besides that, they have pretty good track record, toei would be fine too, they have been doing some great stuff with cgi
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Abzy1239 said:
no,animated means more popularity
which I don't want

typical low IQ gatekeeper
Jan 30, 11:21 AM

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Live action would be better, it would just be able to capture to better than an anime imo, like the kingdom movies, they are so gooood, literally brings the series to life

And if it is to be animated, I'd rather it be cgi than anything, maybe by a studio like digital frontier, their work on gantz was pretty good, and even besides that, they have pretty good track record, toei would be fine too, they have been doing some great stuff with cgi
CrunchyCrobat said:
And if it is to be animated, I'd rather it be cgi than anything, maybe by a studio like digital frontier, their work on gantz was pretty good,


Yes make it a realistic looking cgi movie at this point.

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Jan 30, 11:32 AM
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I think it should be animated to achieve other public, vagabond has a lot to offer, it would be a waste if such magnificent story stay restricted to just one kind of source
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just purchase the manga and read it.. better than reading subtitles.
Jan 30, 12:40 PM
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I dont think so, but if the adaptation is well done, I won't complain.
Jan 30, 1:42 PM
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I would want Inoue to come back and actually complete the manga before that happened. (I don’t wanna hear about the exhibition chapter, that’s not the proper conclusion I’m referring to. Especially considering the cliffhanger we left off on, starting a new arc). Tho I wouldn’t mind it if instead of finishing it through the manga, he worked with whichever studio adapts it to deliver the rest of the story through the anime.
Jan 30, 2:34 PM

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no

not even a matter of popularity, profit, or animation
i just cant see that kind of story being executed well as an anime

still if it does happen (which i doubt it will) i'd be down to see it

Jan 30, 2:34 PM
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I'd say it's fine as it is staying just a manga.
in my opinion, when making anime, you have to appeal to the general audience, which for anime is less mature and needs quick-paced action.
vagabond is more about philosophy and maturing as a human, this concept doesn't fly well with kids lol
anyway, it's a good idea to bring up these conversations once in a while to see how other peoples views have changed, as well as what the newcomers think
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MUGIWARA_0001 said:
just purchase the manga and read it.. better than reading subtitles.

actually did this for once lol
you appreciate the author's work more that way, at least with a serious, philosophical work such as this
Jan 30, 2:52 PM
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I would love for it to be
Jan 30, 8:13 PM
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doesn’t need one but i’d love to see how diffrent studios would go about animating it
Jan 30, 8:34 PM
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no it just needs to be completed
Jan 30, 9:14 PM
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Uruichi said:
IMO no if it’s gonna be another Bersek 2016 then fk that it’ll be a waste of resources to make it anyways if the series does not end up looking as good as the manga which won’t ever happen as Inoue’s art is very hard to replicate cuz bro’s just too talented for his own good.

Geez!! Berserk 2016 is living rent free up your head!! Move on!!
There have been good CG adaptations from Japanese studios. Especially studio Orange. and Studio 4°C's works on berserk looks much better.

Calm tf down bro I only used Berserk 2016 as an example of what we can expect as a worst case scenario lol and studio Orange is busy with other projects at the moment I’d want them to renew Houseki no kuni for another season rather than try to adapt something as grand as Vagabond.
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The French studio that animated Arcane said that they wanted to animate Vagabond. If this were to happen, It could turn out to be one of the greatest pieces of animated fiction EVER. (If done right, of course)
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the people saying no are just oblivious and scared. I'd say go for it, cuz there ain't nothing that can't be animated and if it clicks, it's gonna be the best piece of art to ever exist
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Like someone above said, no manga ‘needs’ to be animated. But there’s no reason why it shouldn’t be animated. If there’s a fear of it not living up to the expectations, the reward of the adaptation being successful far outweighs the risk therefore justifying it. If people were too scared to tarnish the name of Vinland saga, AoT etc, we would’ve never gotten these masterpieces in anime format which would’ve been a huge loss. In some cases, the successful adaptation of a popular manga can lead to inspiration or influence adaptation decisions in the future. For example, although there was a big time period in between the 2, I believe without the success of monster we would’ve never seen Pluto being animated, and with both being big successes, it greatly influences the chances of urusawa’s other masterpieces to be adapted, which would’ve otherwise been very unlikely. Plus the popularity that comes around from an adaptation can only be a good thing. The increased profit margins helps build the anime industry, maybe you don’t see that reflect in animators’ pays but at the very least it allows companies to expand production, build more studios and take on more projects. Ofcourse it also allows for a more diverse selection of anime available for viewers. Of course there’s the argument of popularity ruining the reputation cos of the fandom etc which is complete bullshit and doesn’t even come close to comparing to all the positives. If you’ve got such a problem then stop living your life on social media.
Feb 1, 2:03 AM
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no but it would be awesome
Feb 1, 12:43 PM
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It doesn't need to be animated, the manga just needs to finish.
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Musashi_Arun said:
Ofcourse,Hope Mappa or ufotable picks it up, madhouse is fine too.

i really hope mappa doesn’t get it
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Ofcourse,Hope Mappa or ufotable picks it up, madhouse is fine too.

i really hope mappa doesn’t get it
@DeepFriedDio mappa is fire
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DeepFriedDio said:
Musashi_Arun said:
Ofcourse,Hope Mappa or ufotable picks it up, madhouse is fine too.

i really hope mappa doesn’t get it

Why? You don’t like quality fluid animation? PNG lock fan I guess
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I just don't see the point. It's pretty much impossible for the art to be translated meaningfully into animation, especially for the length that it would need to be to adapt the whole manga. The only way would be if it were CGI, but that has it's own issues and I can't really imagine it looking great. That's also just the surface level, but the way the story is told wouldn't really translate well into animation without some changes. Even if the anime is good, the difference in quality between it and the manga would be huge. I'm not saying it's impossible for a Vagabond anime to be amazing, but it's unlikely. Not to mention that considering how popular Vagabond already is, I don't think an anime would attract many new viewers that are unaware of what Vagabond is.
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Sence it’s the same people who made Arcane, im okay with it. But it feels like a HUGE disservice to the author. I feel they didn’t consider him or his perspective on this idea and as a result it won’t be good
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Every manga can be animated because they are not like literary works, only difference is still frames versus animated ones with added cinematography, sounds and music, and voice acting. I hate manga purists, man. The only negative aspect of anime adaptations can be the bad handling of the project all together; however, it doesn't matter for the manga at all because it is virtually unaffected and everybody can go and read it if they don't like the adaptations. It is not like a bad adaptation erases the existence of the manga itself.

TLDR: Every manga should be animated because anime, by their nature, are far more superior to manga. They are basically the enhanced versions of the manga! Not by the Western studios though. They don't have the capacity the understand the philosophy of these works.
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eventually i would like to see vagabond get animated but for it to be well done and accurate is unrealistic unless it is done by a outstanding studio and even then it won’t be able to truly capture inoue’s breathtaking art.
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Abzy1239 said:
no,animated means more popularity
which I don't want

what a ignorant opinion -_-
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i have a question will it still be considered an anime if studio Fortiche animates it??
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Only if a good studio pick ups to animate, which it’s hard in anime Industry nowadays to replicate the same thing Takehiko inoue done in the manga , same situation is for a perfect Berserk animation.
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Every manga can be animated because they are not like literary works, only difference is still frames versus animated ones with added cinematography, sounds and music, and voice acting. I hate manga purists, man. The only negative aspect of anime adaptations can be the bad handling of the project all together; however, it doesn't matter for the manga at all because it is virtually unaffected and everybody can go and read it if they don't like the adaptations. It is not like a bad adaptation erases the existence of the manga itself.

TLDR: Every manga should be animated because anime, by their nature, are far more superior to manga. They are basically the enhanced versions of the manga! Not by the Western studios though. They don't have the capacity the understand the philosophy of these works.
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Imagine calling people manga purists when you are an animetard elitist. Gotta love the irony...
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I think that can’t be animated properly as takehiko intended in manga with this lazy animation industry we have nowadays in anime.
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But not for the Vagabond animation
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But not for the Vagabond animation
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And why would be that? Are they incapable of animating samurais or something?
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And why would be that? Are they incapable of animating samurais or something?

Not a incapable matter, but for the manga adaption , take example Sakamoto days which is mappa studio are animating , not everybody is enjoying the animation saying the cut some of the aspects of the manga , but that is just my opinion.
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@Arthurzada89

And why would be that? Are they incapable of animating samurais or something?

Not a incapable matter, but for the manga adaption , take example Sakamoto days which is mappa studio are animating , not everybody is enjoying the animation saying the cut some of the aspects of the manga , but that is just my opinion.
@Arthurzada89

It is cherrypicking to crticise all of the studio over a single anime .
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