| are you implying that gore isn't "really R-rated stuff"?? |
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| seinen ✘, r17+ ✘, shounen ✔ maybe another target audience switch where original is seinen and anime shounen. they even fully remove any sign of sexual theme. i will wait at least 4eps before deciding. |
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seinen ✘, r17+ ✘, shounen ✔
maybe another target audience switch where original is seinen and anime shounen. they even fully remove any sign of sexual theme. i will wait at least 4eps before deciding.
maybe another target audience switch where original is seinen and anime shounen. they even fully remove any sign of sexual theme. i will wait at least 4eps before deciding.
| @Luc36 It's seinen because manga was published in seinen magazine Big Gangan. https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/705/Big_Gangan |
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@Luc36 It's seinen because manga was published in seinen magazine Big Gangan. https://myanimelist.net/manga/magazine/705/Big_Gangan
| @bastek66 sorry if i am not clear enough, i am not talking about manga part, but talking about this anime which seems getting toned down to make it available/switch for shounen target demographic based on what they toned down and remove. even shounen not this tame. And also this manga is about dark fantasy mature manga so i think toned down to this level is just too much. |
Luc36Jan 11, 10:58 PM
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| i saw some others complaining about the animation and starting point but i didn't really get it. the animation looks fine to me (unless you just wanna be a nitpicker about it) and where it picks up actually seems like a good starting point to me. at least story wise. there's always a possibility they add the skipped stuff later too. |
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@bastek66 sorry if i am not clear enough, i am not talking about manga part, but talking about this anime which seems getting toned down to make it available/switch for shounen target demographic based on what they toned down and remove. even shounen not this tame. And also this manga is about dark fantasy mature manga so i think toned down to this level is just too much.
| @Luc36 Manga demographics are outdated manga-only thing. They should apply to anime and anime fanbase should move on from using them as indicator of quality or age rating of the story. |
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@Luc36 Manga demographics are outdated manga-only thing. They should apply to anime and anime fanbase should move on from using them as indicator of quality or age rating of the story.
| @bastek66 why though? in entertainment this information still important to decide what content in it and what allowed or not. this also relevant to what target audience like/dislike and their level of tolerance (i am not talking about overseas that had different tolerance level). btw i am not talking about age rating in seinen because i know seinen target demographic is not always for mature content, but in this case the manga/source material is set for mature content and people refer to this. And i doubt it's outdated because this data even still used up till now in many stores especially store that have all range of age rating product. this also can be used for user to search something more specific (content and other factors). Dlsite still separate it too. |
Luc36Jan 12, 10:15 AM
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@bastek66 why though? in entertainment this information still important to decide what content in it and what allowed or not. this also relevant to what target audience like/dislike and their level of tolerance (i am not talking about overseas that had different tolerance level). btw i am not talking about age rating in seinen because i know seinen target demographic is not always for mature content, but in this case the manga/source material is set for mature content and people refer to this.
And i doubt it's outdated because this data even still used up till now in many stores especially store that have all range of age rating product. this also can be used for user to search something more specific (content and other factors).
Dlsite still separate it too.
And i doubt it's outdated because this data even still used up till now in many stores especially store that have all range of age rating product. this also can be used for user to search something more specific (content and other factors).
Dlsite still separate it too.
| @Luc36 They are outdated because: -they don't specify anything about the plot, story, tone, age rating, etc. -they are only used to shit on or praise title depending on magazine it's in, -because publishers want their manga/magazines had as broad appeal as possible and be read by everyone, not just young boys, young adults, that's why all popular battle manga have huge fujo fanbases (BnHA, JJK, TG, TR, SnK, etc) |
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@Luc36 They are outdated because:
-they don't specify anything about the plot, story, tone, age rating, etc.
-they are only used to shit on or praise title depending on magazine it's in,
-because publishers want their manga/magazines had as broad appeal as possible and be read by everyone, not just young boys, young adults, that's why all popular battle manga have huge fujo fanbases (BnHA, JJK, TG, TR, SnK, etc)
-they don't specify anything about the plot, story, tone, age rating, etc.
-they are only used to shit on or praise title depending on magazine it's in,
-because publishers want their manga/magazines had as broad appeal as possible and be read by everyone, not just young boys, young adults, that's why all popular battle manga have huge fujo fanbases (BnHA, JJK, TG, TR, SnK, etc)
| I guess that's a different perspective. From my experience, the target demographic influences the story, theme, tone, and even age rating. For instance: • Tsukimichi (seinen) has a deeper story and less action, catering to adults who prefer story. In contrast, young boys, who tend to have more energy, often prefer action-heavy stories, which is why many shōnen titles are action-packed. But this doesn’t mean adults dislike action—it's just that the focus differs. • For developers or creators, target demographics are important when creating something. Just because a work also popular outside its demographic doesn’t mean it’s catering to that audience. More likely, those outside the target audience enjoy it because they also like the same thing. For example, Nikke caters to a male demographic, yet 40% of KR players are women because they enjoy similar elements. However, the updates remain designed for the male audience since that’s the primary target and at the same time didn’t alienated women who already like that concept too. • CGDCT especially SoL genres are often classified as seinen because they target adults especially for adult that tired from work and seek something relaxing. Sewayaki kitsune mangaka also mentioning this intent when creating his manga. sure this can be for everyone because the nature of this genre but that didn't dismiss the creator intent either. and i also often saw many young people tends to say that SoL is boring because do not have any story or too mundane. • Age rating also plays a role: Shōnen tends to avoid heavy sexual themes unless explicitly labeled as ecchi, whereas in seinen, such themes—including intimate scenes—can exist naturally without extra tags. This is because the audience is already aware of and accepts such content based on the demographic. Lastly, even though publishers aim to broaden their audience, target demographics remain important. They help ensure people know what kind of content to expect. For example, a josei magazine might appeal to male readers because its content differs from shōnen. This balance makes target demographics an essential marketing strategy. - Sorry if look like a robot, I ask chatGPT to help my engrish. And also because I always specifically search based on genre and also check age rating/demographic, I rarely get unexpected content and ended up liking it, that reflect to my MAL score. That’s from my PoV, so I can’t just dismiss it like it's not important; moreover, stores especially online stores also still using this even until now. |
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| you forgot to mention the anime cut the sex scene |
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| This is simply an early biased impression, not a review. And Cyberpunk Edgerunners is an ONA, so of course they could show gore or sex without a problem compared to a show broadcasted on TV, DUH. |
JoeChipJan 13, 10:11 AM
| I haven't watched this yet, but I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about the censorship. Maybe the blu-rays of this anime will be uncensored when they release? I've seen other anime be censored on first broadcast, but later they were released as uncensored on the blu-rays as an incentive for people to buy the blu-ray version as well. |
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I haven't watched this yet, but I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about the censorship. Maybe the blu-rays of this anime will be uncensored when they release? I've seen other anime be censored on first broadcast, but later they were released as uncensored on the blu-rays as an incentive for people to buy the blu-ray version as well.
| @VelvetThorns That'S not how blu-ray releases work, they only uncensor scenes that are blacked out or censored by some signs or something. they don't add whole new scenes that is not on the anime, which is the case here. |
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@VelvetThorns
That'S not how blu-ray releases work, they only uncensor scenes that are blacked out or censored by some signs or something. they don't add whole new scenes that is not on the anime, which is the case here.
That'S not how blu-ray releases work, they only uncensor scenes that are blacked out or censored by some signs or something. they don't add whole new scenes that is not on the anime, which is the case here.
| @JoeChip Actually, this does happen on occasion. Shuumatsu no Harem added additional scenes that were not in the original broadcast for the blu-ray release for example. |
| I liked the soundtrack from beginning to end, it's very lively with great designs. There's gore, which is already a big plus. I hope Köinzell stays on this path of revenge—those who live by the sword die by the sword. I also hope this revenge won't turn into something trivial or just comic relief. I don't know the original material, but when I have some free time, I'll take a look at it. I'll keep watching. |
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@JoeChip Actually, this does happen on occasion. Shuumatsu no Harem added additional scenes that were not in the original broadcast for the blu-ray release for example.
| @VelvetThorns holy shit idk why by i gave Shuumatsu no Harem a 1. And i rate things pretty high normaly. I dont even remember watching it i guess it was so bad. |
Reply to Mari_Marx
I liked the soundtrack from beginning to end, it's very lively with great designs. There's gore, which is already a big plus. I hope Köinzell stays on this path of revenge—those who live by the sword die by the sword. I also hope this revenge won't turn into something trivial or just comic relief. I don't know the original material, but when I have some free time, I'll take a look at it. I'll keep watching.
Mari_Marx said: those who live by the sword die by the sword I don't think that saying really applies in this case. |
Reply to Lost_MattiX
3 episodes in and honestly, as a manga reader myself, this adaptation seems so utterly irredeemable that I'm genuinely more inclined to suggest anyone with the faintest interest in the story to avoid this cheap lazy butchering piece of trash and read the manga instead. Granted, I don't think the manga is anywhere near a masterpiece as it gradually squanders its interesting premise and gets worse and worse, especially at around its halfpoint. Yet, it's still a much more enjoyable experience than whatever seasonal slop they're churning out with the anime.
| @Lost_MattiX I enjoyed the manga... I just would have wanted more exposition on Asherit origins and on the Wishtech |
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@nightcrawlercyp The manga isn't bad at all, just very flawed, but I did enjoy it as well. It's just that past the halfway point poorly handled plotlines crumble under the weight of their own ambition and everything feels like a confused, disjointed mess at times, especially with the much greater involvement of Wishtech with no bloody idea about them except for vague information which should have been substantiated by more detail to differentiate them from forgettable generic enemies, and Asheriit's mystical powers/divine gifts/chosen one status are also hinted at several times while never getting much substance.
| @Lost_MattiX well I would say we know plenty about Wishtech. |
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