| You are not supposed to love Lucy. She is objectively evil an actual main antagonist of the series and reason of everything wrong happening in the series. Still, I hope we'll get a readaptation one day. |
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| Elfen Lied fan here, I agree with your opinions. While the series does have a ton of flaws that you likely had heard about already and I still love it regardless if it's flawed or not. it'll forever be one of my favorite anime's of all time. I'm also one of the few that prefer the anime over the manga, due to a few reasons, but I still love both anyways. |
tanjim_ahsan16 said: Piromysl said: You are not supposed to love Lucy. She is objectively evil an actual main antagonist of the series and reason of everything wrong happening in the series. Still, I hope we'll get a readaptation one day. well I can't argue with you but I believe she's not evil she's just a victim of discrimination and not being accepted and I believe if humans weren't cruel to her she won't be evil. (and again it's just my opinion you're free to have yours) There is no argument for discrimination here. Dicloni are designed to destroy humanity, which is their primal instinct and you can't blame humans for responding accordingly. Lucy is actually even more misanthropic than an average dicloni, which makes her even less likable and the fact that Nana exists, just shows that it is possible for them to control their urges, which even Lucy does, but only near Kouta. So, no. There is absolutely nothing that makes me sympathetic with her. I'm pretty sure Frieren did something similar with Demons, by how their pretty visage is used only to conceal their evil and Dicloni are kinda similar in this aspect. |
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| Elfen Lied was Arms' first TV anime. Arms was created from a merger of Dandelion and Triple X. Before going TV anime they did stuff like A Kite, Midnight Panther, Mezzo Forte and Words Worth. After Elfen Lied they still released Front Innocent. Dandelion was mostly known for gory tentacle rape OVAs, while Triple X did Harem type pr0n OVAs. It's nice how Elfen Lied combined what made each studio before the merger great. |
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Piromysl said:
You are not supposed to love Lucy. She is objectively evil an actual main antagonist of the series and reason of everything wrong happening in the series.
Still, I hope we'll get a readaptation one day.
You are not supposed to love Lucy. She is objectively evil an actual main antagonist of the series and reason of everything wrong happening in the series.
Still, I hope we'll get a readaptation one day.
Not allwoing yourself to enjoy characters because they're evil takes half the fun out of stories. Watching Jojos without liking Dio for example.
| @Yosakusan That's not what I even said. |
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| If you're not 16 and still believe that "it delves deep" into dark social themes, I think you're just lying to yourself. Gore and the fan Service. That's the two Main reasons why this Show was popular. It's not a deep dive into the human psyche. It's not a clever plot, that goes above and beyond. That's not what it's known for today. "The Value of Humanity"? Cmon now, that's not why people watched. People wanted to see a topless Hottie butchering guys. It was shocking and edgy, at the time. Nowadays, tho? Nah. It's not even that. |
Merve2LoveDec 18, 9:10 AM
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| The only good thing about is the opening with Lilium |
| Damn, Time flies. I remember when I saw this back in 2013-2014. Those were the days ah hahaha. |
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| Good show, the male protagonist and the wicked murderess of his family being in love together is an extraordinary romance setup. I rooted for Lucy all the way to the end. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
tanjim_ahsan16 said: Piromysl said: There is no argument for discrimination here. Dicloni are designed to destroy humanity, which is their primal instinct and you can't blame humans for responding accordingly. Lucy is actually even more misanthropic than an average dicloni, which makes her even less likable and the fact that Nana exists, just shows that it is possible for them to control their urges, which even Lucy does, but only near Kouta. So, no. There is absolutely nothing that makes me sympathetic with her. I'm pretty sure Frieren did something similar with Demons, by how their pretty visage is used only to conceal their evil and Dicloni are kinda similar in this aspect. well I'm not blaming humans to respond accordingly but didn't you noticed what happened in Lucy's backstory? her parents abandoned her and those kids killed that poor dog in front of her eyes how could you justify that? and that mysterious entity which was in Lucy's head Lucy just didn't shaked hands with it and turn into evil haha Lucy was fighting with it till the end and she only became evil when she couldn't take it anymore and I personally been through discrimination and in the state when people don't want to accept or understand you because you're different and justify your flaws as a excuse to hurt you so I can feel her and yeah there's no doubt that Lucy was more aggressive then a normal dicloni but her reasons were simple "humans didn't accepted her kind so why would she'd be sympathizing with them" and if you watched the extra episode of Elfen Lied you probably know why she was so aggressive towards humans especially the researchers. Lots of people fail to differentiate between Lucy, Kaede and Nyu. You might forgot because it was twenty years, but Lucy persona was born after she witnessed Kouta with Yuuka and DNA voice managed to exploit her envy. So, yeah. Entire reason for Lucy's exceptional and above average evil is just envy. Author even made it abundantly clear at the end by |
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| Elfan leid is the classic story of fuck around and find out. Never bully the psychic child people never ends well. @Animelovefan123 No ironically one of the few exceptions where the anime original was better. |
GrimAtramentDec 18, 11:22 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| my guilty pleasure anime. the characters are all trash, yet somehow I enjoyed this anime. |
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Elfan leid is the classic story of fuck around and find out.
Never bully the psychic child people never ends well.
@Animelovefan123
No ironically one of the few exceptions where the anime original was better.
Never bully the psychic child people never ends well.
@Animelovefan123
No ironically one of the few exceptions where the anime original was better.
| @GrimAtrament It can't be called an anime original when it's an adaptation with differences. |
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| @JoeChip it can be when the source material and anime basically have nothing in common. I wouldn't call the early 2000s yozakura quartet an adaption when it only "adapted." The first chapter before doing its own thing. Just like majikoi the anime and VN literally have different plots because the anime has zero content from the VN and takes place on a Route that doesn't exist in the VN. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
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@JoeChip it can be when the source material and anime basically have nothing in common.
I wouldn't call the early 2000s yozakura quartet an adaption when it only "adapted." The first chapter before doing its own thing.
Just like majikoi the anime and VN literally have different plots because the anime has zero content from the VN and takes place on a Route that doesn't exist in the VN.
I wouldn't call the early 2000s yozakura quartet an adaption when it only "adapted." The first chapter before doing its own thing.
Just like majikoi the anime and VN literally have different plots because the anime has zero content from the VN and takes place on a Route that doesn't exist in the VN.
| @GrimAtrament Except that's not the case in Elfen Leid but you are free to believe whatever you want, my boy. |
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@GrimAtrament
Except that's not the case in Elfen Leid but you are free to believe whatever you want, my boy.
Except that's not the case in Elfen Leid but you are free to believe whatever you want, my boy.
| @JoeChip are you the kind of person that looks at the Frankenstein that is robotech and calls it a Macross adaptions? Lmao. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
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@JoeChip are you the kind of person that looks at the Frankenstein that is robotech and calls it a Macross adaptions? Lmao.
| @GrimAtrament Cope and deflect, classic way of people who has nothing smart to say as comeback. |
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| @JoeChip so like you do all the time? Cause just saying your the one following my post around which tells me you had your jimmies russled. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
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@JoeChip so like you do all the time? Cause just saying your the one following my post around which tells me you had your jimmies russled.
| @GrimAtrament Do I even need to repeat myself, keep coping and deflecting I guess. |
| Elfenlied was one of the first Anime I've ever seen. I watched it when I was twelve and it left a lasting impression on me. I was definitely too young, when I first saw it. I wounder if someone relates. I don't remember much, but this post really makes me want to rewatch it. |
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