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Dec 18, 2010 3:03 PM
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The second coming of Sarasa

Ok, I don't really understand why didn't Sarasa tell them that Haman is among the refugees?
I'm missing the battles on the Earth, they were much more exiting, there was Bright and all. But now I feel like it sunk being a kids show again~
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May 11, 2011 10:11 PM
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Sarara is... half evil maybe? I don't know why she wouldn't out Haman.

It's true this feels a lot more kiddy than before. I think ZZ peaked with that series of African/middle-eastern stories, and it doesn't feel as if that height will be reached again.
Jan 1, 2013 5:34 PM
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Haman disguised and inside Argama. I didn't expect that. Let's see what's going to happen.

I didn't understand Haman's talk with that girl from Moon-moon at the ending. Can someone tell me what's going on there?
Sep 9, 2013 1:18 PM
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And we're back to full on stupid...
Feb 17, 2014 11:11 PM
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guidodi said:
Can't wait for this crap to end.
May 31, 2014 3:48 PM
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guidodi said:
I know this is one of the stupidest anime ever made but this episode is one of the worst...
I always wonder why they shout when they get hit by a mobile suit as if they feel it, but the scene where they hit the Hyaku Shiki and it falls to its knees like if it was a human that just got a blow in the stomach is too much. Can't wait for this crap to end.

Because they do feel it.
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Jun 19, 2014 10:39 PM
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How convenient everyone forgets about the spy supposedly on board and Judau's Newtypes senses don't trigger when right next to another.
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Jan 19, 2015 8:57 PM
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What? Why? Everything was fine few episodes ago. Now we're back to the shitty that it was at the start of the show.
Feb 8, 2015 5:24 PM
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That was great, Haman showing off them brains of hers, masquerading as refugees was a genius idea.
Feb 10, 2015 11:16 PM

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Good episode, but lots of confusing details.

I'm glad Judau is not hesitating to killing the enemy on the spot just like Kamille.

The way he tricked the enemy and killing him from below was awesome!

And wow Sarasa and Rasara are back!! I thought they were just filler characters, but it seems they'll be playing a role here.

But why would they travel and leave the colony? I thought they didn't want to leave the colony? Then again Haman did hijacked and hid as one of the refugees, so i'm guessing they're colony are now inhabitant by Neon Zeon.

And i can't figure who was Haman's partner? I thought it was Puru 2, but she look tall and had a different voice.

And wtf Haman's disguise is similar to Hamon!! The lady that sits besides Ramba Ral.

Judau should have sense him right away, since Haman emits a darker energy. Unless her disguise didn't clicked Judau.

This is Mondo's fault, but i'm glad he tried to take on his responsibility.

Still Hyaku Shiki is being abused right and left. This mobile suit is one legendary piece!

And yeah Sarasa should have told Judau that this person is bad and can harm Nahel Argama in the near future.

Oh well, i can't wait for the next episode!
May 24, 2016 10:39 PM

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What a surprise to see guests from the series first half.
And Mondo trying to make up for his bad check was interesting (he aknowledges responsibility now?) but that doesn't transform him into a decent pilot.

Same complaints as above:
- Judau met Haman again but sensed absolutely nothing...
- Hyaku Shiki is humanized now? o_O

2/5

Let's be forgiving and wait to see what Haman's presence will bring.


November 11, 2017
@astrogonza Funny thing, the author of the Unicorn novels (you know, this thing who looks like a early Gundam fanatic's exagerated "fan-tasm", I mean dreams) was mandated to work on this dark past and since he loves to make things "darker" (just like his take on his own Ple), that's what you get:


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@St0rmblade Sorry I laughed at your wish. ^^"
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May 27, 2016 4:53 AM

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guidodi said:
I know this is one of the stupidest anime ever made but this episode is one of the worst...
I always wonder why they shout when they get hit by a mobile suit as if they feel it, but the scene where they hit the Hyaku Shiki and it falls to its knees like if it was a human that just got a blow in the stomach is too much. Can't wait for this crap to end.

Because they do feel it.
That's bullshit and you know it. Gundams and others MS/MAs so far have been 100% mechanical; aside from a possible newtype connection, there's no proven biological bond between pilot and the machine. This isn't Evangelion.

The "battle" on the launching platform was convoluted and dumb. Hyaku Shiki being "abused" was dumb. The fact that even now, Judau still can't feel Haman's presence when she's right next to him even though he can communicate with his sister from freaking outer space is beyond dumb.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Jun 10, 2017 4:18 PM

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Better than the last episode, but still pretty meh!
The net episode looks slightly promising though.
Nov 9, 2017 3:59 PM

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sayami said:

Ok, I don't really understand why didn't Sarasa tell them that Haman is among the refugees?

Because...plot hole! :D I do not know, maybe because Sarasa is a bit crazy? She called herself a prophet or something like that. Anyway this point needs some explanation, I didn't liked it as it is.

Another good question is why Haman put herself in such danger? Judau could have recognized her in a lot of different ways...face, eyes, voice, new type aura... I don't get how he didn't.

The return of the people of Moon Moon was unexpected. Those two episode are, in my opinion, a dark page of the history of Gundam, I hoped they would not have been mentioned again.

@Rei366 oh my...! I didn't expect this ahah
(I do not know the novels you referred to, by the way)
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Jan 3, 2018 6:15 PM

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Okay, so I have no idea what the point of this episode was? Honestly, why did Haman put herself in that position? I just.. yeah.
Feb 5, 2018 8:22 PM
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Beecha's about to be killed by Elle and Roux!! The way they chew him out OVER THE PHONE!!!
PRICELESS FUNNY!!!!!
Feb 28, 2018 2:39 PM

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Did Mondo redeem himself?!
Sep 8, 2018 6:51 PM

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How did Judau not sense that the blonde was Haman? I hope they realize it before it's too late.

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Judau never sensed Haman? Sarasa didn't tell anyone about Haman being on board? At the end of the episode, everyone just blew off the fact that a spy was on board? Stupid..
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I lost it when Mashymre showed another instance of "evil villain laugh". It's so bad that it's funny.
I also noticed reused footage from Mk. II eyecatch from Zeta during the battle with Zakus :p


Why did the Moon Moon guys return? I hope at least Chara Soon won't be making it back in the show.
And what's with that sudden character regression? Beecha is talking about sacrificing a few civilians because why not? After all attempts to make him a somewhat decent guy? What the hell? The OP was the best thing about this episode. And the brief presence of disgiused Haman (new look!!), I guess. Was the other girl with her Ple-Two? She looked similar. But anyway, why did Haman even sneak onto Argama? What's the point? Why didn't Judau sense her? Lol'd at Rasara/Sarasa lecturing Haman about her true self.
For the most part I was just eyerolling though. They even conveniently forgot about the spy among refugees after destroying the enemies.

Apr 10, 2021 8:38 AM

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I thought its going to be your standard ZZ episode from the first half, I didn't expect Haman return...disguised and inside Argama and much less Moon Moon characters reappearance.
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Jun 20, 2021 6:34 AM

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Bold of Haman herself to come out and try to destroy the Argama. Makes sense because it's the protagonist's ship that has been responsible for nearly all of AEUG's success against the Titans and Neo Zeon, so presumably taking out the Argama would finally enable victory. Doesn't seem like Haman is aware of the fact that Bright is no longer onboard, though.

Where is Amuro? Last we heard, he went to space, but where is he fighting? Is he defending Granada on the moon? Is he trying to capture Axis? Or is he among reinforcements that are going to sent to meet up with the Nahel Argama to fight at Side 3?
Jul 31, 2021 6:36 PM

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I enjoyed the last few episodes a lot more, I actually thought this episode was just so-so. I appreciate Mondo taking responsibility and actually trying though, I didin't expect that from him. And he managed to take out a Mobile Suit too, so he proved himself a bit.

Didin't expect Haman to be on board with the refugees, and in disguise to. As someone else pointed out though, its very convenient that suddenly despite his powers being strong and awakened, Judau can't sense Haman at all, even after she touches him. Was very confused by the stuff Sarasa was going on about while talking to Haman, and the fact that she didin't tell anyone about Haman being on board.

Overall for me the episode was just okay, not anything special. I was really enjoying the series for a while now though. Hoping the next episode will go back to being great, not just okay.
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May 5, 2023 11:54 AM

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If Judau could communicate with Leina in the last episode while she was all the way on Earth, why can't he tell that Haman is onboard? Disregarding that, those moon moon people coming back instantly made the episode awkward.
Sep 11, 2023 3:06 AM

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i liked this episode, but haman you are just as reckless as these kids

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Nov 8, 2023 8:45 AM
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rarasa and mondo very cute. Anyhow i thought the blonde woman would be elles mom i guess not lol it was Hamon.

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