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| The strangest episode so far. It looks like there are real-world counterparts in this fantasy game world or smth. It all looks like one big metaphor. |
| Haha, this was great! I loved the way the animation style sort of reverted back to the kind you'd see in an 80s/early 90s series, especially with all of the detective's reactions. It was definitely a little off the wall, but I feel like it works with the overall feeling of the show (delusions and all that). |
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| Despite enjoying Millennium Actress very much which was similar to this in execution, I did not like this episode. Even though it did fit with the surreal and delusion-filled theme of the show, the infamous Shounen Bat being reduced to a chuuni dork was a lame move that dispelled all of the intrigue and mystery I had for him. It could be an impostor or all that was a lie and I hope that's the case. There are the real-life parallels to the victims which were interesting and the detectives was given the next lead in the end but it was still a waste of time to see a glorified recap I didn't enjoy much. |
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| The first 3 episodes were my favorites, the last 2 ones are getting kinda slow, but hopefully it gets better in the next ones. So if shounen bat attacks people with mental issues, he attacked Usshi because he had self-esteem issues from the bullying in his last school. |
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| yeah this episode was pretty.. not good |
| Lil slugger lowkey got isekai'd in this episode |
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| That superficial story on his perspective is so annoying but it was nicely done. I wonder if that’s what Shounen Bat really thinks, that he’s in an RPG or he’s making things up so he can get away with this. |
| This episode was off |
| What in the actual fuck was that |
| Well, I guess there's value in having an episode that can easily be pointed towards as the worst in the series. I flat-out did not enjoy this episode. It does seem like this could be a copycat kind of thing now, somebody mentioning that Shonen Bat didn't have braces, and while I was pretty sure Kon was just throwing us for a loop by capturing him this early, I am kind of hoping it's the case (though he statements lining up with the attacks makes it slightly less believable, I assume he's not just BSing for the sake of the granny since if he was not sure why he'd bring her into his story [and there's connections made to the old man's prophecies, so this guy is certainly in the know and can still definitely be Shonen Bat]) because yeah, this wasn't a satisfying explanation. And in fairness, the dude's going around whacking people with a bat, like logically him being insane with delusions makes sense. But it's definitely not narratively satisfying. And look, I love Millennium Actress, the last several minutes of that movie are perfect, a total payoff to the entire narrative conceit. It's among the best endings of any movie I've ever seen but that movie is a grower for me. The 9 I gave it is because how much the movie pays-off but for a good chunk I wasn't feeling it. One of those reasons was the cameraman and Genya's involvement in Chiyoko's re-telling's, like it just takes awhile for that to not be off-putting for me. And there was more basis for it in Millennium Actress, and more variety in settings. The setting of this RPG is boring. Like, it's probably more interesting than had the episode just remained in the interrogation room but still. Secondly, this episode just doesn't look good. Like, visually it's the weakest output I ever seen from a Kon thing and I don't think it could be attributed to an artistic choice like say with Ichi's delusions at the end of episode two. Some of the animation just look, kind of an incompetent to be honest, and the less detailed designs and weirdness wasn't just restricted to the fantasy sequences so it feels more like budget or time constraints. Thirdly, the content covered isn't very informative. Once you got the basis that he thinks it's just an RPG, that's really all there is revealed outside of the like, the ending piece of information and that prophecy guy near the beginning. It's been four episodes, I don't really need his perspective on the two middle ones. There's some character etched into there, like how Harumi's split personalities is represented in the Ruby and Sapphire and while I appreciate that touch of character, it's still just summation. Fourthly, I just didn't find it very funny. I enjoyed Ikari when he stopped partaking on every level. Like he was always verbally against Maniwa's going along with it but for most of the fantasy sequences he was still presented as physically involved with the fantasy space. Granted it worked symbolically, like when he was desperately running up the stairs trying to break through to them but or the Kawazu moment leading towards the discussion, but it still felt ridiculous in the suspension of disbelief way instead of the funny way. Probably because this is such a tonal clash from the previous episodes, and this series has definitely made me laugh before so it's not that humour doesn't work, but I guess having it so centralized, especially in a way that I didn't find funny, just caused an even bigger disconnect from me with the series. This episode was such a buzzkill. But I still have faith in later entries, Satoshi Kon has earned that with his other works, and I think the last four episodes of this alone have earned that faith too. |
| I get what they were going for in this episode, but to drag it out like this for a whole episode without executing it on a entertaining level just left this one feeling mundane and lacking purpose to the point I found myself outright skipping through it to get to the main points of it. Quite unfortunate as this show was on a nice upward trajectory until whatever this was. |
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| Not surprised to see everyone here get so easily filtered |
| Well we already knew shonen bat was messed up. Perhaps shonen bat does* have some power to see the pain in others. Knowing the creator, though, he tends to focus on more human psychological aspects. This got even more interesting. Also the fish creature looks like a rabid magikarp then he obtains a red dragonball. I wonder if this is also a comment on how so many kids live in fantasy worlds that can supposedly lead to violence. (Along with video games). It also makes sense that the older detective can't quite comprehend the fantasy as he mentioned earlier he didn't understand the 'generation' while the younger one is listening and trying to make sense of it all. This also ties in to some of the victims as well, the designer and her imaginary fantasy plushie. Ichi's imaginary sense of self. Harumi's imaginary/fantasy 'real life' out of the grips of illness. etc. This show has so many layers and so much commentary on humanity. |
| Lmao. This episode was a complete 180 from the series up till now. Let's see where they go with this. |
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| good lord. i wanted to hit myself over the head with a metal bat after grueling through this episode... |
| Not exactly what I was looking for in this episode but makes sense. A bit too silly but I get that the younger detective was aiming fully to get into the mind of Shounen Bat to work things out. Definitely the worst episode, hopefully of the whole series. Everything else was great, this wasn't actually bad but it definitely didn't hold my interest or get me really immersed like the others. |
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| While watching this episode i couldn't stop thinking the entire time that Shounen bat was a drug addict on hallucinogens who played too much RPGs games and started attacking people on the streets like it was GTA game. Lol. Still an entertaining episode though. |
| I know your PTW list is bigger than your completed list. |
| Now we are in a fantasy world of shonen bat....young detective is connecting dots...lets see whats ahead. |
| Ahahaha lmaooo, my man Satoshi did it. This is just bonkers. Been such a long time since I laughed so hard like an idiot. Fucking absurd shit that's impossible to wrap your head around. This is great, because it's like them artsy stuffs going absolute bat-shit insane (pun-intended) just for the wtfs. And this is actually so unconventional and subversive that I don't even know where to begin. The assailant caught after 4 episodes in a genuinely ridiculous and ironic manner, just to go on a farcical rpg trip, effectively making the previous oh-so-serious assaults seem like a big deceptively artsy middle finger? Dude, I fucking love Satoshi. Even if I don't always like his works, there's always something about them to appreciate. Also I can see strong Millennium Actress influence with this one. |
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| Okay um. What? That is not the way I expected the series to go to. I do not believe that the cliched 8th grader kid is Lil Slugger / Shounen Bat. Shounen Bat had a weird sense of charisma and mysterious air. Well if that really is Shounen bat, I guess the story of this series is about batshit crazy people impacting each other. Well the whole cartoony exaggerated animation and the funny haha Shounen Bat loves video games he's delusional thing throws off the entire premise and build-up for him. Well, I'll just believe in Satoshi Kon. He probably knows what he's doing. He should. |
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| This was, overall, not very good. We didn't need a full episode of RPG parallels to the real world events, just a scene or two would have sufficed. We ended up getting practically nothing out of this episode, which is a death sentence for a 1 cour anime. I don't know who could have directed this one, but it couldn't have been Kon himself. Hopefully the series picks up the steam it once had initially, the first four episodes were incredibly engaging. Preachee said: Kon didn't even direct this episode, Shimazaki Nanako did. Which explains why it sucks so much. Ahahaha lmaooo, my man Satoshi did it. This is just bonkers. Been such a long time since I laughed so hard like an idiot. Fucking absurd shit that's impossible to wrap your head around. This is great, because it's like them artsy stuffs going absolute bat-shit insane (pun-intended) just for the wtfs. And this is actually so unconventional and subversive that I don't even know where to begin. The assailant caught after 4 episodes in a genuinely ridiculous and ironic manner, just to go on a farcical rpg trip, effectively making the previous oh-so-serious assaults seem like a big deceptively artsy middle finger? Dude, I fucking love Satoshi. Even if I don't always like his works, there's always something about them to appreciate. Also I can see strong Millennium Actress influence with this one. |
RyiebeDec 19, 2022 11:08 AM
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| This episode must have been so frustrating when it came out. Where's that armor from? I wonder, I know I've seen it somewhere but I can't remember where. |
| I don't see why so many people hate this episode. I felt like it was pretty easy to understand what it was trying to say and that those things would be more important later. Like it's only episode 5 ofc this isn't all the show has to offer. |
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| Just some mad guy and some fantasy fighting. Thats all |
| oh this i thought this was a crazy show but i actually had no idea. |
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| Wtf just happened...? I kind of didn't like that lol I actually started to fall asleep a little halfway through, but at least they're moving on... And apparently the old lady might have something to do with this, not that it matters because Shonen Bat has already been caught... Idk how to feel about this. It just feels kind of disappointing. Like where do you even go from here? Shonen Bat was caught, unless that really wasn't them? I've never gone from being so excited and interested in a show to immediately wanting to drop it between two episodes. What happened... |
AlkimiaAug 4, 2024 5:14 PM
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| Wtf was this episode xd. It's definitely the weakest one so far. Kind of a slog to get through too. |
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