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Mar 23, 2023 8:55 PM
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I read many comments stating this, I assumed therefore that the light novel was dated but I saw now that it started in 2014.
In 2014 the isekai were already booming. Overlord published its first chapters online in 2009 (officially on sale in 2012). Log Horizon 2010. Gate 2010. Etc.

Before that, Zero no Tsukaima 2004, Inuyasha '96.

So why?
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Mar 23, 2023 9:05 PM
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bro its never been called the father of isakai
Mar 23, 2023 9:07 PM
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Most of the people who said that only started watching anime or reading LNs recently. Isekai has been relevant since 1990s.
Fun Fact: Attack On Titan is inspired by Muv-Luv Alternative, a isekai VN from 2006.

Isekai boom because web novels boomed at that time in late 2000s and early 2010s. And isekai is much easier to write.

I hang around in the LN/WN community. Isekai has decreased over the past years. As of right now, isekai makes up of around 10% of the current new LNs. With about 70% of the new LNs being romcoms.
Mar 23, 2023 9:11 PM
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i maybe wrong but i think it's called "Father of isekai" because it does everything an every isekai should do
like :
Good detailed World building
purpose of being reincarnated or isekaied
etc.
Mar 23, 2023 9:14 PM
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It obviously didn’t invent the isekai genre, but it invented or codified a lot of tropes that are prevalent in modern isekai.
Mar 23, 2023 9:24 PM
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SubArU_JeAgEr said:
i maybe wrong but i think it's called "Father of isekai" because it does everything an every isekai should do
like :
Good detailed World building
purpose of being reincarnated or isekaied
etc.

yeah that's precisely why it is called so.... as it sets a new way and standards for isekai which over the time.... the isekai gnre has lost.
Mar 23, 2023 9:32 PM
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I honestly never heard anyone call it the “father of isekai”

A more accurate term for it is a pioneer of the isekai genre in which it inspired a lot of its successors to follow the same formula it did. Kind of like how Dragon Ball and the Big Three did that for Battle Shonen series.
Mar 23, 2023 9:39 PM
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*Godfather of modern isekai* tbp,thats cause of its great attention to human emotions and motivations. Also,the story structure and time plotting is also great,npthing feels dragged it this story.
Mar 23, 2023 9:46 PM
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From what I remember, Mushoku Tensei is called "The father of isekai" because it started many stereotypes that we see today in modern isekai.

Also, MT started as a web novel in 2012.
Mar 23, 2023 9:52 PM
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lmao who calls it that ? please this is too funny

its a decent Isekai but father, i didnt like rezero but even id refer rezero as father if I HATE TO not this.
Mar 23, 2023 10:02 PM
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I've never heard it called that, but i wouldnt be against calling it the Daddy of isekai's
Mar 23, 2023 10:05 PM

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never seen anyone calling it that? ppl definitely call it better isekai since most of isekais nowadays are mid
Mar 23, 2023 10:15 PM
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bro who’s been calling this the father of isekai ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€
Mar 23, 2023 11:00 PM
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SubArU_JeAgEr said:
i maybe wrong but i think it's called "Father of isekai" because it does everything an every isekai should do
like :
Good detailed World building
purpose of being reincarnated or isekaied
etc.

ig re zero is the reason I love isekai this much btw re zero s3 announcement may happen tomorrow during Kadokawa live stream
Mar 23, 2023 11:02 PM
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They mean the father of modern isekai, the one that popularizad the hit by a truck / car reincarnation story.
Mar 23, 2023 11:05 PM
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this is the first time I'm hearing this.
Mar 23, 2023 11:09 PM

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the father of isekai is the first isekai
it's not the first isekai but it's the best isekai
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Mar 23, 2023 11:09 PM
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Gou-Hou said:
From what I remember, Mushoku Tensei is called "The father of isekai" because it started many stereotypes that we see today in modern isekai.

Also, MT started as a web novel in 2012.

I agree with you bro I remember ppl saying that so idk why a lot of ppl here saying “who calls it that?” Not realizing it kinda actually is + I’d maybe put SAO up there as well (even though technically Kirito never died and went to a new world๐Ÿ˜…)
Mar 23, 2023 11:22 PM

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Lmao yeah back then when the anime just announced, I've seen tons of people calling it "The grandfather of isekai". Genuinely though it's from 90s, but 2012? Really? Tons of big isekai already exist, even the most cliche one is older than MT. It seems like people stop using that title tho, never really seen it recently, laughable indeed.
Mar 23, 2023 11:56 PM

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They mean the father of modern isekai, the one that popularizad the hit by a truck / car reincarnation story.

Yeah, that's the one of the reason why people called it Father of modern Isekai. Mushoku Tensei popularized Truck-kun. I'm Novel reader, Mushoku Tensei is better than most of Isekai stories written today. Don't get me wrong, Re:Zero, Konosuba and many other isekai is also good. But Rudeus character development in the future.. I've never seen anything like that before. Even when the series got ending.. Never seen other series Do an ending like Mushoku Tensei.. It's too perfect. That's why Mushoku Tensei one of the best Isekai. But I would not recommend it to other people except for my friends, because when I discussed controversial anime like this with my friends, we also used our brains. But that Father of modern Isekai title for Mushoku Tensei it's too big for the series, at least for now. Because the anime not finished yet.
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Mar 24, 2023 12:17 AM
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who the fuck says that
Mar 24, 2023 12:22 AM
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EmirDuja said:
who the fuck says that

yah i was going to ask that according to wat i know sao has been considered that as it was wat made isekai this famous ๐Ÿƒ‍โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿƒ‍โ™‚๏ธ although it has been one of the most hated of all tym
Mar 24, 2023 12:34 AM
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I read the LN I think the anime is crap
Mar 24, 2023 12:40 AM
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Dije said:
I read many comments stating this, I assumed therefore that the light novel was dated but I saw now that it started in 2014.
In 2014 the isekai were already booming. Overlord published its first chapters online in 2009 (officially on sale in 2012). Log Horizon 2010. Gate 2010. Etc.

Before that, Zero no Tsukaima 2004, Inuyasha '96.

So why?

digimon is the first isekai
Mar 24, 2023 1:04 AM
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it is just anime that is good
Mar 24, 2023 2:15 AM
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"Father of Isekai" probably is Spirited Away.
Mar 24, 2023 2:22 AM

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Yeah I remember people calling MT the father of isekai or something. Maybe people werent knowledgeable about isekai back then so they just said whatever they wanted. So many isekai were already present before MT came into existence and so many cliche tropes were also present before MT was published so whoever calls MT the father of this genre is completely wrong. Nobody calls it that nowadays though.
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Mar 24, 2023 2:24 AM

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Father of all isekai is Alice in wonderland.
Mar 24, 2023 2:31 AM

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Beacause it has a delusional fanbase that convinced itself that a 2014ln started the isekai genre.
Mar 24, 2023 3:17 AM
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alice in wonderland and wizard of oz are the original ones.
Mar 24, 2023 3:19 AM
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Beacause it has a delusional fanbase that convinced itself that a 2014ln started the isekai genre.

Spot on. Couldn’t had put it better.
Mar 24, 2023 4:34 AM

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I think its because it shiws how every isekai should be, also the web novel released in 2012
Mar 24, 2023 4:56 AM
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It ain't the father of all isekais. Even the stats prove that. It's definetly a top 5 tho
Mar 24, 2023 5:01 AM

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lol what? it isn't even considered as the father of isekai.
Mar 24, 2023 5:10 AM

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In veteran Anime Community peopl calle it father of Isakai Anime becouse when SAO got released that was the same time when mushoku tensei was on trending on webnovel websit and the tropes which it created are used by other anime like
.overpowered mc
.multiple wifes
.memories of previous life
.truck kun
.magic anit it's mechanics
etc
but mushoku tensei did it properly
like they focused on world building and once the world is built enough to have the arc progress smoothly they stop World building and start the character development
if we already know what's in the world we will focus more on character and story and the world will not distract us in important scenarios while in the other hand when there is nothing going on in the story the world which has been built which is in the background will come in the foreground and capture our attraction and will not get us bored ๐Ÿฅฑ๐Ÿ˜ด
they also not only focused on pros of having memory of previous life but cons too
they showed that Trama and PTSD of is carried to next world
they showed that work is need to be to become the overpowered mc he doesn't become overpowered in just one night he need a time period to become on which other anime skips that and this the one of the pros of having memory of the previous life and still there is someone who is able to defeat him in that world that shows overpowered doesn't mean undefeatable
they showed us proper mixture of all attributes which makes it the Isakai where other doesn't do a proper job just reincarnated the mc, make it overpowered, give him heram, and let the story progress itself
this is the reason they call it the FATHER OF ISAKAI ANIME "*MUSHOKU TENSEI- ~JOBLESS REINCARNATED~*"
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Best animation that's why
Mar 24, 2023 6:09 AM
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from what I heard it started a lot of the troupes you see in Isekai today. But MT took those troupes and did them well. While others took them and ran them into the ground.
Mar 24, 2023 7:58 AM
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pretty sure they call it the "big daddy" not the father of isekai
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good question back when this was still in preview stages i heard a lot of fans calling it like that
Mar 24, 2023 10:00 AM
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More like the father, the son and the holy spirit.
Mar 24, 2023 4:22 PM
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Gigguk is the only person I’ve heard calling it “the father of all isekai”

And honestly… I can see why. I’ve seen a lot of isekai and I can confidently say that I’m not a fan of the genre. Some don’t have a good story. Some have the same mc copy pasted into every isekai anime. Some of them don’t take themselves seriously. Most of them don’t actually explore the world they’ve introduced and some don’t have have anything to explore.

Mushoku Tensei has all of that and more, hence I don’t mind Gigguk calling it that.


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Mar 25, 2023 12:20 AM
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it's not '' the father of Isekai '' specifically but u can say it's the most perfect Isekai ever
Mar 25, 2023 5:07 AM
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because it's the origin of the isekai idea.
the isekai was started by someone who regret on his previous life so rudeus just represents the reality of the isekai main hero, as they seek to live a better life, but not the most enjoyable, but will he fulfill his desire? You will know this in Mushoku Tensei.
so I see it the real father of isekai anime. and guys I read the light novel and and there is no one can expect anything from what is coming.
Mar 25, 2023 5:12 AM
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it's not '' the father of Isekai '' specifically but u can say it's the most perfect Isekai ever

yeah it is the best ever isekai anime of all time because I read the light novel to the end and it is perfect just perfect ๐Ÿ‘
Mar 25, 2023 7:49 AM

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Same here i read it's side story too about his kid and his half sister eloping together 
Mar 25, 2023 8:37 PM
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guys Tron is an Isekai ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
Mar 26, 2023 9:05 AM
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Never heard that, but I dropped this anime. Trash.
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Dije said:
I read many comments stating this, I assumed therefore that the light novel was dated but I saw now that it started in 2014.
In 2014 the isekai were already booming. Overlord published its first chapters online in 2009 (officially on sale in 2012). Log Horizon 2010. Gate 2010. Etc.

Before that, Zero no Tsukaima 2004, Inuyasha '96.

So why?
Perhaps they don't watch much anime or just now started watching anime to make that absurd comment.
Mar 28, 2023 3:52 PM

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It's called father of isekai for the same reason Dragon Ball is called father of shounen: it didn't create anything that wasn't done before, they just distilled it in a way that many future works of the genre copied.
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to add to this. SAO started it's web novel in 2002.
Most Isekai that actually got popular started before mushoku tensei. Just most of the modern seasonal trash Isekai that are getting pumped out released after mushoku. And because mushoku hits all the tropes not people will say "oh this modern Isekai got this and that trope from mushoku" no matter where it was actually from.
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