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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- When the little girl said she was waiting for her dad, I immediately about those assassins that went to Hellywood =P I wonder what Shu will do now, will he go to Hellywood, or he'll just stay there. |
| Gotta kill the root of the problem, so the same events doesn't occur again. |
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| I'm glad the 2 found some sort of peace for now. I just wonder if Shu will ever go back to his world. |
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| So they finally reveal who the assassins are. Such a depressing moment in the show knowing that little girl won't ever see her father again. |
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| I always wanted to say something to this series, but I can't express this horrible depression that I feel when I watch it. I would only be repeating myself. Takes time for me to watch this series because it just makes me feel even more hopeless than I already am. |
| Amazing, just fucking amazing. I actually found that, when Shu and Lala-ru got to the village, that it was a pretty good testament to the good side of human nature. Particularly the character of Sis, a woman who sees the folly of violence against others and how she seems to be taking care of these orphaned children. On the other hand, you have that villager who wants revenge so badly that he is unknowingly putting his village in danger. Sure his reasons are understandable, but what good will it accomplish? Somebody, maybe even he himself, will inevitably rise to take Hamdo's place (though maybe not as psychotically), so the cycle will just continue. Yet, part of me agree with him all the same. Like Shu, I kind of had a range of emotions and don't really know what I think of all this. It's confusing. Also, it hurts seeing all these happy children and Sis and thinking "damn, this villaige will probably be burned to the ground and worse in the next few episodes". Going by what Hamdo said. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Nice episode, it's interesting how they put both sides in story of what happened to the assassins and to their families... quite sad, I do wonder what Shu will do and I wonder what happened to Sara! |
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| Ah so that was the little girl's dad, and she's still waiting for him, so sad. Hamdo going to the village or the village going to him either way I can practically see the chaos already. |
| They find some kind of peace after all they've been through, but the spectre of war hangs over them just the same. The monologue by the villager is powerful stuff. How can anyone who's been through that not want revenge? Yet that just makes the everlasting cycle of violence continue. I wonder where Sara is? |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| So intense! |
| "The will to live is stronger than anything else" |
| . . . That poor village is about to meet with tragedy. I get the feeling Hamdo is going to find it and blow it to smithereens. |
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| Is his sister Sara by any chance? Is... she... dead?! T____T |
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| Wow, I'm really liking this anime so far. Lots of thoughts swirling in my head after seeing the last part in this episode. That was done really well. insan3priest said: On the other hand, you have that villager who wants revenge so badly that he is unknowingly putting his village in danger. Sure his reasons are understandable, but what good will it accomplish? Somebody, maybe even he himself, will inevitably rise to take Hamdo's place (though maybe not as psychotically), so the cycle will just continue. Yet, part of me agree with him all the same. Like Shu, I kind of had a range of emotions and don't really know what I think of all this. It's confusing. Pretty much this. |
| Nice to see Shu & Lala Ru get to a village. Sis is pretty awesome. I have to wonder where the series is going, though. There's this odd dichotomy I have with the plot... while lots of things have been happening within the story, it feels like none of them are especially important to the central plot, so it just makes the pacing seem slow, despite lots of stuff happening each episode. Still, things are presented nicely, so even if the story is a bit of a drag, at least it's presented well. Hopefully things speed up a bit for the last few episodes. |
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TheLemonCake said: I believe the villagers resisting Hamdo are in the right. If Shu's and Sis' pacifism was adopted and the resistance suddenly ceased to oppose Hamdo then it would mean that all the communities that have yet to be ravaged would be left to the mercies of a fanatical despot. To stand aside and allow massacre of villages, the abduction of women, and the enslavement of children is not only extremely irresponsible but also immoral. I disagree with those saying resistance to a tyrant will cause a cycle of violence. I do not think any of the ravished villages ever wronged Hamdo , nor do I think Hamdo's men (most of his soldiers anyway) care enough to avenge him. Sis said something about reaching a peace through negotiations, and such talks are always better than armed conflict, however what are the chances of Hamdo compromising with them if he does not see them as a threat. +1 FestinaLente said: Is his sister Sara by any chance? Is... she... dead?! T____T Did you forget that Sara is from America? |
MischievousGhostJun 11, 2015 4:29 PM
| it just occurred to me that nabucas village is probably gone.... thats fucked up.... oh wtf happened to sara.... i feel like shes gotten shafted in this series in more ways than one.... too soon? lmao |
| Anger may in time change to gladness; vexation may be succeeded by content. But a kingdom that has once been destroyed can never come again into being; nor can the dead ever be brought back to life. - Sun Tzu War is a necessary evil, if it can be avoided by ideology, then choose the path of peace. I can't see this being resolved without the removal of the King. I think Abelia (who actually does all the work...) will become Hamdo's demise. The straw that breaks the camel's back. __ A fair amount of reviews criticised the lack of depth of the jarringly cliched villainous Hamdo within the midst of a series filled with complex themes. I can definitely now see the criticism was well justified. |
Cloud_IllusionMar 15, 2017 5:09 AM
| Nothing can happen until you swing the bat. |
| At this point Shu's avid denial of wanting to kill anyone is dumb because the only way to make a change in this world that he is in is by getting rid of the one causing the damage. Especially with someone as crazy as Hamdo who you could never negotiate with unless he becomes a good guy through anime logic which I hope doesn't happen |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| powerful scene at the end. What struck me the most this episode, however, is Shu's complete disregard for wanting to return to his home. I'd have wondered if he thought of it when he left Hellywood, that it was their technology that took him away and only theirs that could bring him back. With that said, there are only 4 episodes left and I don't anticipate a comedic ending. Returning home is probably the least pressing worry. frequency15k said: it just occurred to me that nabucas village is probably gone.... thats fucked up.... oh wtf happened to sara.... i feel like shes gotten shafted in this series in more ways than one.... too soon? lmao yikes my dude lmao |
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| Wow... this was a powerful episode. Much more laid back and somber, but still powerful. I really need to know why Abelia's following that asshole, cause it's starting to break my immersion. Are they related or something? I knew instantly that village was the place Hamdo plans to attack, better brace for impact. The village looks just like the Pueblos from the American southwest, some pretty neat inspiration if I do say so. Poor girl... I figered her dad was one of the assassins. I wonder if that guys sister was the skeleton Shuu and Lala-Ru found in the previous episode, it did have a doll with it. So I guess we're at a crossroad, Shuu can lead the assassins or stay put. Seeing how close they got the last time they might succeed with help from Shuu. Though I imagine security would be tighter this time around. But going by the number of episodes left and the capacity this series has for shock value, I wouldn't be surprised if Shuu stays and Hellywood attacks the village. We'll have to wait and see. |
TheLemonCake said: I believe the villagers resisting Hamdo are in the right. If Shu's and Sis' pacifism was adopted and the resistance suddenly ceased to oppose Hamdo then it would mean that all the communities that have yet to be ravaged would be left to the mercies of a fanatical despot. To stand aside and allow massacre of villages, the abduction of women, and the enslavement of children is not only extremely irresponsible but also immoral. I disagree with those saying resistance to a tyrant will cause a cycle of violence. I do not think any of the ravished villages ever wronged Hamdo , nor do I think Hamdo's men (most of his soldiers anyway) care enough to avenge him. Sis said something about reaching a peace through negotiations, and such talks are always better than armed conflict, however what are the chances of Hamdo compromising with them if he does not see them as a threat. TheLemonCake said: I believe the villagers resisting Hamdo are in the right. If Shu's and Sis' pacifism was adopted and the resistance suddenly ceased to oppose Hamdo then it would mean that all the communities that have yet to be ravaged would be left to the mercies of a fanatical despot. To stand aside and allow massacre of villages, the abduction of women, and the enslavement of children is not only extremely irresponsible but also immoral. I disagree with those saying resistance to a tyrant will cause a cycle of violence. I do not think any of the ravished villages ever wronged Hamdo , nor do I think Hamdo's men (most of his soldiers anyway) care enough to avenge him. Sis said something about reaching a peace through negotiations, and such talks are always better than armed conflict, however what are the chances of Hamdo compromising with them if he does not see them as a threat. Pretty much This. |
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| "He wants to solve everything with force! That's wrong! Understand?" "No" *punch* I suspect this comfy atmosphere in the village won't last long... Did Sis save Sara? I was waiting to see her. |
| Chode at our 1 o'clock, Captain! |
| For me this the most emotionally powerful episode of the serie, loved it |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| For someone who's supposedly against violence, that viillage woman sure loves hitting people. I'm usually for Shu's ideas, but Elamba was right here. If there's ever an exception to your pacifistic rhetoric, than Hambo should be that exception, he's irredeemable. Besides that, Hambo plans to invade and destroy them without negotiating anyway, so there's no rational discussion avenue with him. Soon might be hit with bad news at some point. The worst part is that her father didn't succeed with his assassination plan. |
Archean-ReturnMar 30, 2023 9:32 PM
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| Shu realization of how both sides are wrong but there is pain on both ends. That guy has every right to want revenge even if in the grand scheme, violence only causes more violence. Sis is also a cool addition and good for someone else to burden the pacifist idealism because Shuu’ is more grounded in common sense and understanding. While Sis has experienced the other effects of how war ruins a country and the kids in it. |
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| Man, this kid is getting punched in almost every episode. |
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| I like the Sis character, She feels very heartwarming in this desolate world. Shu's realization that wanting revenge is wrong yet justified was a very great depiction of the two sides of war. He's usually overly optimistic so it was a welcome but sad change to see him break down like that. |
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