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leonardobarba said:
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I would normally agreed with you, but at least 10 people died and everyone loves conspiracies nowadays.

It's literally impossible to cover up without the writers help.


Believe me, it still happens nowadays...

No, you aren't able to cover up mutiple random people deaths, you are going to come after their families, their friends, their families friends, their friends families families...
This is international, it happened on day light and the internet isn't restricted, from what I remember.
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Difference is, LycoReco takes place in 21st century where fuckton of people can mass record and tweet stuff in 30 seconds, while in those times Radio was still a fairly new tech for majority of the population, not to mention that the fastest communication method of that time was either a cable phone or a telegraph, which fun fact - wouldn't transmit pictures or videos and so couldn't really proof that this was 100% real right away

But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history.

Finally, someone is making sense. Technology has not sharpened our senses, it has numbed them and the result is an overwhelming lack of common sense. Tide pod challenge, cinnamon challenge, blackout challenge, etc. we have been getting dumber with each passing generation lol.
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thunderkitten667 said:
You don’t really understand how propaganda works, do you? You realize if tomorrow, every newspaper and television and radio station and website affiliate proclaimed that aliens were invading earth, the overwhelming majority would eat it up? That’s what is so powerful about controlling the media. You control information, and if nobody has anything else to compare it to, your information becomes “truth”. That is what Majima is even fighting against: DA’s iron grip on the media and controlling the narrative to cover up their exploits.

That might have worked in 85,but in this morden era it's impossible to cover something on this scale.
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thunderkitten667 said:
Piromysl said:

But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history.

Finally, someone is making sense. Technology has not sharpened our senses, it has numbed them and the result is an overwhelming lack of common sense. Tide pod challenge, cinnamon challenge, blackout challenge, etc. we have been getting dumber with each passing generation lol.

Mate, that's like 15% of the population.
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RogerCop said:
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You don’t really understand how propaganda works, do you? You realize if tomorrow, every newspaper and television and radio station and website affiliate proclaimed that aliens were invading earth, the overwhelming majority would eat it up? That’s what is so powerful about controlling the media. You control information, and if nobody has anything else to compare it to, your information becomes “truth”. That is what Majima is even fighting against: DA’s iron grip on the media and controlling the narrative to cover up their exploits.

That might have worked in 85,but in this morden era it's impossible to cover something on this scale.

If you truly believe that, I feel sorry for you. If you think you are the smartest one in the room, you are the easiest to predict and fool...
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CickNipolla said:
Have you been living under a rock since 2016? Humans will listen to anything the media/internet says

No they won't, have you seen the amount of conspiracies that exist, and with people actually dead, it's not unlikely that about 70% of the population won't believe in the news, at least without the writers help.
Sep 17, 2022 4:29 PM

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I’ve been suspending my disbelief the entire season as is par for the course when watching anime but now it’s just turn your brain off with how this show is stumbling across the finish line.
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RogerCop said:
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Have you been living under a rock since 2016? Humans will listen to anything the media/internet says

No they won't, have you seen the amount of conspiracies that exist, and with people actually dead, it's not unlikely that about 70% of the population won't believe in the news, at least without the writers help.


if on CNN a brief few hour live feed of terrorism happened... and within hours the government covered it all up, people would forget about it. in this show the government has the ability to delete anything off the face of the earth. the government has been lying to people for decades, citizens will believe anything
Sep 17, 2022 4:31 PM

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really people are underestimating fake news and big lie
Sep 17, 2022 4:32 PM
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RogerCop said:
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The numbers above easily reach more than 100k, what’s even funnier is you implied that the DA was the biggest terrorist organization in the world.

“Asian culture are more collectivist so they follow herd mentality more” -deg

Now this is what I call a bruh moment.

Is this an alt account?


Why would I be an alt account?
Sep 17, 2022 4:32 PM
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thunderkitten667 said:
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That might have worked in 85,but in this morden era it's impossible to cover something on this scale.

If you truly believe that, I feel sorry for you. If you think you are the smartest one in the room, you are the easiest to predict and fool...

You never been to a conspiracy community have you?

You're severely underestimating the impact of killing people on daylight in the street with a public.
Sep 17, 2022 4:33 PM
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Easy way to explain this: people are actually this dumb and we underestimate how stupid and complicit we all are.
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CickNipolla said:
Have you been living under a rock since 2016? Humans will listen to anything the media/internet says

I think people have been living inside of their smart phones instead of rocks lol. They think everything is as they read or hear on the internet, that everything can be taken at face value just because they see a video or read a police report.
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CickNipolla said:
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No they won't, have you seen the amount of conspiracies that exist, and with people actually dead, it's not unlikely that about 70% of the population won't believe in the news, at least without the writers help.


if on CNN a brief few hour live feed of terrorism happened... and within hours the government covered it all up, people would forget about it. in this show the government has the ability to delete anything off the face of the earth. the government has been lying to people for decades, citizens will believe anything

You're confusing the situation.
The better comparison would be if terrorists attack the center of New York in the daylight, blew upped a few buildings and the news would say it was a Michael Bay movie.
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Secret333 said:
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Is this an alt account?


Why would I be an alt account?

I just thought since you had a pretty good understanding of the bad writing shown, you would have an older account.
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MusashiKarlsefni said:
Easy way to explain this: people are actually this dumb and we underestimate how stupid and complicit we all are.

It is funny how people are trying to give more credit to humans than they deserve, as if we don’t slaughter each other with every passing minute. We literally have been through two world wars lol.
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MusashiKarlsefni said:
Easy way to explain this: people are actually this dumb and we underestimate how stupid and complicit we all are.


exactly we are social beings trap in herd mentality

plus this show is not about realism but exaggeration so we have superhuman chisato and a secret police state
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RogerCop said:
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Finally, someone is making sense. Technology has not sharpened our senses, it has numbed them and the result is an overwhelming lack of common sense. Tide pod challenge, cinnamon challenge, blackout challenge, etc. we have been getting dumber with each passing generation lol.

Mate, that's like 15% of the population.

15% of the population unknowingly destroying their bodies...you realize that is the epitome of stupidity, right? That’s worse than ignorance.
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thunderkitten667 said:
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Mate, that's like 15% of the population.

15% of the population unknowingly destroying their bodies...you realize that is the epitome of stupidity, right? That’s worse than ignorance.

That leaves about 65% people with common sense.
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People will believe what sounds most ideal for them. For the civilians of Japan, they will believe it was a viral ad campaign because they want to live in a safe Japan.
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MusashiKarlsefni said:
Easy way to explain this: people are actually this dumb and we underestimate how stupid and complicit we all are.

People died, families will have to be very dumb to believe the news.
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RogerCop said:
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15% of the population unknowingly destroying their bodies...you realize that is the epitome of stupidity, right? That’s worse than ignorance.

That leaves about 65% people with common sense.

Those stats are horrible if you are trying to support your claim lol...
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RogerCop said:
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Why would I be an alt account?

I just thought since you had a pretty good understanding of the bad writing shown, you would have an older account.

Oh, nah I just never bothered to create an account or discuss shows since the beginning. I’ve been watching anime since 2012. And I’m just lazy to add all the shows I’ve watched. They don’t tend to be relevant to whatever new show I talk about.
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RogerCop said:
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if on CNN a brief few hour live feed of terrorism happened... and within hours the government covered it all up, people would forget about it. in this show the government has the ability to delete anything off the face of the earth. the government has been lying to people for decades, citizens will believe anything

You're confusing the situation.
The better comparison would be if terrorists attack the center of New York in the daylight, blew upped a few buildings and the news would say it was a Michael Bay movie.

I’ll give you a better comparison. For 12 weeks a lot of people, myself included were tricked into thinking we were watching a good anime when in reality it was a dumpster fire. At least it has cute girls!
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thunderkitten667 said:
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Easy way to explain this: people are actually this dumb and we underestimate how stupid and complicit we all are.

It is funny how people are trying to give more credit to humans than they deserve, as if we don’t slaughter each other with every passing minute. We literally have been through two world wars lol.

Every single person in the war was evil, selfish, desperate, foolish... But not dumb.
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thunderkitten667 said:
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That leaves about 65% people with common sense.

Those stats are horrible if you are trying to support your claim lol...

I specifically used a lesser percentage since of drug users and what not.
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Fivegears said:
People will believe what sounds most ideal for them. For the civilians of Japan, they will believe it was a viral ad campaign because they want to live in a safe Japan.

That might be true if their friend wasn't shoot in the head.
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CHT13 said:
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You're confusing the situation.
The better comparison would be if terrorists attack the center of New York in the daylight, blew upped a few buildings and the news would say it was a Michael Bay movie.

I’ll give you a better comparison. For 12 weeks a lot of people, myself included were tricked into thinking we were watching a good anime when in reality it was a dumpster fire. At least it has cute girls!

Never liked this anime, people calling it the jonh wick of Anime particularly infuriated me.
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RogerCop said:
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I’ll give you a better comparison. For 12 weeks a lot of people, myself included were tricked into thinking we were watching a good anime when in reality it was a dumpster fire. At least it has cute girls!

Never liked this anime, people calling it the jonh wick of Anime particularly infuriated me.

When I heard about it being an anime original I was worried. Tbh, right from the beginning the plot was pretty dumb and moss head as the antagonist was laughable. I stuck around because I like Chisato’s personality and Takina started to grow on me as the season went along.
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there's definitely some people who still won't believe tho and to me that is very realistic
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RogerCop said:
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That’s 10% too many

Agreed, but not enough to cover up this kind of incident.

The people that choose to remain ignorant will do so and those that decide to speak up will be silenced or made to look like tin foil helmet people to maintain the illusion of peace. Makes sense in the context of the show tbh
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DeeDubz12 said:
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Agreed, but not enough to cover up this kind of incident.

The people that choose to remain ignorant will do so and those that decide to speak up will be silenced or made to look like tin foil helmet people to maintain the illusion of peace. Makes sense in the context of the show tbh

Yeah but even for an anime it should still be a bit of a fallout until the government cleans up the mess and fully covers it up. Not just a short video. Also, we don’t know yet if regular people will still be questioning it next episode. If it’s completely put to rest than that’s pretty weak.
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RogerCop said:
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if on CNN a brief few hour live feed of terrorism happened... and within hours the government covered it all up, people would forget about it. in this show the government has the ability to delete anything off the face of the earth. the government has been lying to people for decades, citizens will believe anything

You're confusing the situation.
The better comparison would be if terrorists attack the center of New York in the daylight, blew upped a few buildings and the news would say it was a Michael Bay movie.


with how marketing is these days, its entirely possible.
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Could be an intereesting setup for a second season, seeing how they deal with fall out would be cool to see. I think chisato is marked for death so dont think the show will hit the same without her
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CHT13 said:
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Never liked this anime, people calling it the jonh wick of Anime particularly infuriated me.

When I heard about it being an anime original I was worried. Tbh, right from the beginning the plot was pretty dumb and moss head as the antagonist was laughable. I stuck around because I like Chisato’s personality and Takina started to grow on me as the season went along.

Funny, the only character I like was the broccoli hair, since I really don't like the main duo.

Chisato breaks my suspension of desbelif and takina is just annoying, not following orders.

So I find a lot more fun seeing a green terminator guy beating the crap out of a high school girl.
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DeeDubz12 said:
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Agreed, but not enough to cover up this kind of incident.

The people that choose to remain ignorant will do so and those that decide to speak up will be silenced or made to look like tin foil helmet people to maintain the illusion of peace. Makes sense in the context of the show tbh

Would make sense if people didn't died.
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CickNipolla said:
RogerCop said:

You're confusing the situation.
The better comparison would be if terrorists attack the center of New York in the daylight, blew upped a few buildings and the news would say it was a Michael Bay movie.


with how marketing is these days, its entirely possible.

I'm going to say that my example is impossible to cover up with Michael Bay, since them they would have evacuated the citizens and no one would be killed.

So it'd still impossible to cover up.
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RogerCop said:
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When I heard about it being an anime original I was worried. Tbh, right from the beginning the plot was pretty dumb and moss head as the antagonist was laughable. I stuck around because I like Chisato’s personality and Takina started to grow on me as the season went along.

Funny, the only character I like was the broccoli hair, since I really don't like the main duo.

Chisato breaks my suspension of desbelif and takina is just annoying, not following orders.

So I find a lot more fun seeing a green terminator guy beating the crap out of a high school girl.

I remember when chia pet survived a rocket launcher blast, I was like “that’s total BS” meanwhile I was perfectly fine with Chisato dodging point plank bullets. Bias in full force!
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nah “ they put way too much money into that” was hilarious
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The fact that civilians died makes what happened completely unbelievable.
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Elevatorisbest said:
As much as I loved the new episode, I find it hard to believe that all the civilians decided to simultanously change their minds and thought that Lycoris and all the shootings along with the fight at the Tower was just a big prank just because some short tv announcement told them so.

I was hyped to see how the story would unfold after Lycoris got shown to the public, how their shootout was broadcasted live everywhere and how civilians started to pick up and fire stashed Lycoris pistols, but bruh, that felt so anticlimatic to me.

Anyone feels kinda similar about this or is it just me?

dunno man, seems like an accurate representation of average people in society
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Clearly you guys have never read Julius Caesar
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The pacing is kind of odd in that Lycoris is exposed and then its undone I think the next day?
But I think it’s perfectly believable when you consider
a) Lycoris has a pre-established system for manipulating the media
b) based on the real world we can assume that there would be “Lycoris truthers” out there but they wouldn’t be taken seriously
c) spreading footage and eyewitness accounts of them actually helps hide the truth due to the overwhelming amount of information (think Metal Gear Solid 2)
The show probably could’ve handled this subplot better but for a show with a crazy premise and only 13 episodes I think it’s fine
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Was looking forward to having the stakes raised high and the city ablaze in gunfire, but "it's just a prank bro" is nice too I guess


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Elevatorisbest said:
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Friendly reminder, that in 1938 people really thought US was invaded by aliens because audio drama was airing on radio and it caused wide panic.

Difference is, LycoReco takes place in 21st century where fuckton of people can mass record and tweet stuff in 30 seconds, while in those times Radio was still a fairly new tech for majority of the population, not to mention that the fastest communication method of that time was either a cable phone or a telegraph, which fun fact - wouldn't transmit pictures or videos and so couldn't really proof that this was 100% real right away

They never experienced any proper crime cases, mate.
Even Majima explained that in Episode 10. They're manipulated & used because they never experienced actual crimes.
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Lets just say this series requires some level of suspension of disbelief. I fckin gave up on thinking about the logic of this series after episode 1 man.

And because of that I am enjoying this show so much.
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This is not the first time something dumb is shown on this anime.

i am not even shock at this point already.


Logical sense seems to be missing.

Sep 17, 2022 9:07 PM
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Either lycorris fans don't use their brain or they don't have it in the first place.
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You people seems that don't live in a black ops Country and you should thank that... But it is very credible... Will be lots of people that don't buy the story, but will be overwhealmed with the ones that do, the bots that push the narrative and the media covering absolutely anything but that
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Yeah. Kinda unrealistic for the coverup to work. Like, literal gun fights in front of them.


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