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Apr 11, 2021 11:56 AM
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This is anime is soo good so why are people sleeping on this?
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Apr 11, 2021 12:14 PM
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Just look at the reviews of those who still watched it. Every third person feels obliged to justify himself with smth like "normally I wouldn't watch it but because it's nisioisin/Shaft/Shinbo I'll give it a chance".
So people for whom these names mean nothing will be completely filtered out.
Apr 11, 2021 12:18 PM
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Because ppl dont watch shaft shows unless its monogatari, madoka, or nisekoi. there entire body of work is underrated. this isnt new.
Apr 11, 2021 12:38 PM
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Reverse harem and lolis so why would 90% of anime fans care
Apr 11, 2021 1:26 PM
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Because it's a reverse harem and it has attractive men so 90% of anime fans will be put off by it and just call it gay without even taking a look at it.

It's no secret that most anime fans won't even touch something if it even smells like female demographic.

Honestly this series has more of a chance of pulling people in than most becuase of Shaft and Nisioisin but even then most won't give it a chance just because of bishounen.
Apr 11, 2021 1:27 PM
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The story isn't one that sticks out to much people



Apr 11, 2021 1:40 PM
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Personally, I'd rather eat my own foot before I ever watch another Shinbou/Shaft production.
Then you wanna add Nisio on top of that? I'll enjoy my nap, thanks.
Apr 11, 2021 1:42 PM
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This is basically same as Oran High school host club with less humour and boring character , haven't watched the anime but read the manga
Apr 11, 2021 2:02 PM
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Well, maybe it's the same reason why not a lot of women wants to watch nor read the Monogatari series because is targeted to young men, this is a show targeted to young women.
But you know, I think Monogatari fans who are hating this show needs to think twice, because as someone who also likes Monogatari this is literally the same but targeted to another audience. Good is just only a minority who are like this
Apr 11, 2021 9:34 PM

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I've seen people say they don't like it because it is basically the same thing as Ouran Highschool Host Club.
Apr 11, 2021 9:51 PM

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deafnote said:
Personally, I'd rather eat my own foot before I ever watch another Shinbou/Shaft production.
Then you wanna add Nisio on top of that? I'll enjoy my nap, thanks.


Same for me. This is like one of the worst staff combination ever.
Apr 11, 2021 10:29 PM
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Hiigurashii said:
I've seen people say they don't like it because it is basically the same thing as Ouran Highschool Host Club.

Yeah, and monogatari is the same as clannad.
Apr 12, 2021 2:57 AM

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deafnote said:
Personally, I'd rather eat my own foot before I ever watch another Shinbou/Shaft production.
Then you wanna add Nisio on top of that? I'll enjoy my nap, thanks.


Took the words right out of my mouth. It's a miracle that group can still find work.
Well I for one already loved Lain.
Apr 12, 2021 3:27 AM

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Maybe because of lack Knowledge... people don't know It's Shaft + NISIOISIN. Also it does't have flashy name like 'I shaved and then bought something..' or 'Vivy: something' or '86' or 'Tokyo something' etc.
Most people look for cute girls in the shows.. but this show has cute boys.. that's also why looked down.
Before starting i didn't knew it was NISIOISIN and Maaya Sakamoto was voice acting. And i also did't saw it's publicity on reddit. It just did't reached people.
Apr 12, 2021 3:28 AM

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Because it has bishounen in the title
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Apr 12, 2021 3:45 AM
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It's because hardcore fans are missing. Those are the ones who inflate the rating by giving 10/10 scores. What do you think, the shows at top are so good that they cross 8+ after 1 episodes? No, the fans inflate the ratings. Only after that more users notice a show. The fanbase is small, the ratings are genuine and not inflated, and on top of that, it's not Shounen but Bishounen. The demographic isn't into this kind of show. Those watching are either fans of Shaft, Shinbou or Nisioisin. The actual fans of novel are missing.
Apr 12, 2021 12:01 PM
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I almost didn't give it try because I thought it was a shoujo for young girls (I just judged on the cover yeah).

I watched without any expectations and god, it had a Bakemonogatari and Ouran Koukou vibe so now I'm obsessed with it. I didn't know it was from Shaft and NisiOisin when I started the episode, but now all of it made sense.

Well for now, I'm impressed by the realisation, but I hope the story will be good in the next episodes.

So I guess people aren't into it simply because they think that they're not the target of this kind of show. Let's wait a bit and I'm sure more people will give it a try.
Apr 12, 2021 12:10 PM
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SHAFT + Nisio Isin = Skeptical. I don't like this combo. I will wait until this show ends and gets overpraised, and then I will start watching it. Probably will end up regretting anyway.
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Apr 12, 2021 6:26 PM

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Shaft + Nisio + Shinbou It's literally one of the best combination, you really must hate so much NisioIsin or shaft to say it's a bad combo, I don't even understand why people who are hating this anime and studio are even here on this topic.
Just take your toys and go to watch your average Harem anime.

Tbh, I'm not a fan of "bishonen" thing, but though, that's if you watch from inside the box, if you try to watch it from outside, you will see it's an interesting anime with nice visuals and main characters have different personalities which you can tell even from the first episode. But still, I don't understand people who judge an anime just by first episode.
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Apr 13, 2021 6:57 AM

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The fact that it's a club with pretty boys certainly makes most people turn away from it.

In my opinion the Cover Art could've been more "artistic" to get the attention of more people. But well, it's up to us to spread the word!!!

The score is quite low for what I expected from a NISIOISIN, Shaft and Shinbou combo, but I'm sure it'll end up at least around an 8.



Apr 13, 2021 7:03 AM
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A majority of anime fans are heterosexual dudes and don't care about cute boys
Apr 13, 2021 7:05 AM

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Yeah... it’s bishonen, barely anyone is going to care.
Apr 13, 2021 7:36 AM
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MoonDragon72 said:
A majority of anime fans are heterosexual dudes and don't care about cute boys

I would say that most anime fans are insecure about their sexuality and afraid that the cute boy on screen will throw a challenge that this shaky sexuality will not stand up to.
Apr 13, 2021 7:43 AM
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Nobody is sleeping on this. A few(probably more than few) threads were made about it and many people clearly saw it but the title and the PV doesn't look so "special". I wasted my time on the 1st ep and it was pretty shitty imo. Harem with cute boys "solving" mysteries if i could describe it shortly. Also, just bc it isn't very popular doesn't mean its good.
Apr 13, 2021 7:46 AM

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ikr i dont understand either it had such a good first ep,i generally never watch bishounen stuff as im not the target audience for that stuff but this was really fun
Apr 13, 2021 7:52 AM
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Because the vast majority of anime fans can't handle anything that's even remotely related to the female audience. Cuz ya know, it's not like girls watch anime too, right?
To most anime fans, especially the ones here on MAL, if the show doesn't have at least one big tiddy anime girl then it's automatically bad/not worth watching.
I don't ever hear these kinds of snarky comments I've been hearing lately thrown at shows with all-female casts, but as soon as a single show with an all-male/mostly male cast turns up, it instantly becomes an "eww why all boys" or "eww I don't wanna watch a sausage party" rantfest. It really tells me more about the majority of the anime community more than anything else.

That being said, I've been loving the show, the animation is easily the most beautiful I've seen all year, and while it's too early to decide how the story will turn out, I think it'll end up being very good. The haters can suck it as far as I'm concerned.
Apr 13, 2021 8:01 AM
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False_Mirror said:
MoonDragon72 said:
A majority of anime fans are heterosexual dudes and don't care about cute boys

I would say that most anime fans are insecure about their sexuality and afraid that the cute boy on screen will throw a challenge that this shaky sexuality will not stand up to.


Lol, yeah I was like that too but I eventually embraced my omnisexuality
Apr 13, 2021 8:24 AM

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Ikr, it’s very surprising that it’s not the talk of the town, at least currently. With it being directed by Shinbou, animated by Shaft, and written Nisio it should be all but guaranteed to be the biggest anime of the season, at least in terms of popularity.
Apr 13, 2021 10:22 AM
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yeah. But i think it's gonna be more popular on Japan just like Assault Lily last year
Apr 13, 2021 7:10 PM

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People in the west are sleeping on this. I don't know how popular this show is in Japan, but bishounen reverse harems tend to be insanely unpopular in the west and barely anyone watches them. The most popular show in the west of this genre, Uta no Prince Sama, is still relatively unheard of to the average anime fan. But UtaPri and other shows like this have sold insanely well in Japan. So just hope that the Japanese audience loves this show and don't worry about what the westerners think.
Apr 13, 2021 9:34 PM
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I really prefer that they don't even see it because if they see it, they will only complain and say that they are only seeing it through the studio and what the majority who are seeing are saying, it is a bishounen and at least 70% of the otaku are men who think that just because the characters are attractive men and friends already means that they are gay, if they were women they wouldn't think that
Apr 14, 2021 5:57 AM
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Because the vast majority of anime fans can't handle anything that's even remotely related to the female audience. Cuz ya know, it's not like girls watch anime too, right?
To most anime fans, especially the ones here on MAL, if the show doesn't have at least one big tiddy anime girl then it's automatically bad/not worth watching.
I don't ever hear these kinds of snarky comments I've been hearing lately thrown at shows with all-female casts, but as soon as a single show with an all-male/mostly male cast turns up, it instantly becomes an "eww why all boys" or "eww I don't wanna watch a sausage party" rantfest. It really tells me more about the majority of the anime community more than anything else.

That being said, I've been loving the show, the animation is easily the most beautiful I've seen all year, and while it's too early to decide how the story will turn out, I think it'll end up being very good. The haters can suck it as far as I'm concerned.


Yes, probably if there were several girls who sown this anime would have a higher score, in fact by what they say monogatari is pretty much the same thing only with girls and very successfully and for "some reason" that does not
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28Manola08 said:
Well, maybe it's the same reason why not a lot of women wants to watch nor read the Monogatari series because is targeted to young men, this is a show targeted to young women.
But you know, I think Monogatari fans who are hating this show needs to think twice, because as someone who also likes Monogatari this is literally the same but targeted to another audience. Good is just only a minority who are like this



Good where I see the anime most of the comments are like this, or say that they are only seeing by the studio and director or say that the characters are gay because they are simply beautiful and do not like the aesthetic (which does not make sense because it is simply beautiful), and known these people are fans of monogatari that is aimed at the male audience
Apr 14, 2021 10:20 AM
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deafnote said:
Personally, I'd rather eat my own foot before I ever watch another Shinbou/Shaft production.
Then you wanna add Nisio on top of that? I'll enjoy my nap, thanks.


You really aren't a fan of these are you hahaha. I really like your reply for some reason
Apr 16, 2021 2:42 AM
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Maybe because many of them are either supporters of toxic gender stereotyping or they roll their eyes at the character designs being "too feminine/girly" when they clearly should know it's called "Pretty Boy Detectives".

Scar on the Praeter suffers from this same discrimination as far as I can speculate.
Apr 16, 2021 8:28 AM

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Because it came out at the wrong time, if this was released back when Ouran was one of the most popular shows it would have been a hit.
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Apr 17, 2021 2:16 PM

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I gave it an episode. Easiest drop of the season. Even Battle Athletess took 2 because boxing kangaroos at least count for something.
Apr 17, 2021 2:41 PM
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because it's mostly for female audience, and male audience is easily triggred by reverse harem. They are only here thinking about ecchi harems, and when they discovers it's a reverse harem withouth ecchi for male audience, easy drop.
They are lazy to check on the internet before watching it
Apr 17, 2021 2:44 PM
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28Manola08 said:
Well, maybe it's the same reason why not a lot of women wants to watch nor read the Monogatari series because is targeted to young men, this is a show targeted to young women.
But you know, I think Monogatari fans who are hating this show needs to think twice, because as someone who also likes Monogatari this is literally the same but targeted to another audience. Good is just only a minority who are like this




Finally someome who thinks like me. I admit i dislike Monogatari, but it's because i dislike mostly 99% male audience series, ecchi or whatever.
Apr 17, 2021 3:33 PM
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I feel inclined to drop (well, skip lol) it solely because of its description. Like, if you are looking for a star, why not just buy an astronomy book / star map instead of joining a bishounen club? Does "star" actually mean something else here?

But the reverse harem / female target audience is probably why.
When people tell me to stream anime on CR instead of downloading from fansub sites.

Apr 17, 2021 4:09 PM

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I don't understand the crying about guys not being interested in this. They're not the target demographic, it is literally by design that it's not attracting their attention. Of course you have the toxic "ew it's for girls/it's gay" morons but for the most part it's just people who are just not interested. And that's fine.

That said I'll probably still give it a try because it's Shaft and Nisio Isin
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I didn't love Ouran and this reminds me a lot of it so I'm dropping it like 5 minutes into the second ep. The art style is cute but for me that's all it has going for it which just isn't worth it.
Apr 17, 2021 4:35 PM

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The story isn't one that sticks out to much people

This anime looks like Clamp School Detectives, which is boring.
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Why? Uhm... because it's anime aimed at a certain demographic, while the rest don't want to watch little boys with their legs in the air? Duh.

How this show seems gayer then the Ranmaru fairy one (which I actually like) is amazing to me.

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I would say that most anime fans are insecure about their sexuality and afraid that the cute boy on screen will throw a challenge that this shaky sexuality will not stand up to.


Why would anyone waste time on something that does not appeal to them when there are 20 things that do, right around the corner? You have 95% of the cast as males, and I'm not watching it. Simple as that.

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Ikr, it’s very surprising that it’s not the talk of the town, at least currently. With it being directed by Shinbou, animated by Shaft, and written Nisio it should be all but guaranteed to be the biggest anime of the season, at least in terms of popularity.


It may have been.... if it didn't have "Bishounen" in the title and been about pretty boys. SHAFT, Shinbo and Nisio have a fanbase made up mostly of people who want to see pretty girls. This is the exact opposite.
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DmonHiro said:

Why would anyone waste time on something that does not appeal to them

People in this immature community pay too much attention to "demographic". Good things are good. That's all.
And you know for example, shounens are created for 14yo boys, but even an 18yo can like it right?(but not a 25yo, however - this is unhealthy) And many of them are beloved by girls.
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Monochrosanity said:
Ikr, it’s very surprising that it’s not the talk of the town, at least currently. With it being directed by Shinbou, animated by Shaft, and written Nisio it should be all but guaranteed to be the biggest anime of the season, at least in terms of popularity.


28Manola08 said:
But you know, I think Monogatari fans who are hating this show needs to think twice, because as someone who also likes Monogatari this is literally the same but targeted to another audience.


It always was common knowledge that 90% of Monogatari's audience never actually cared for its writing, direction, or animation and were there just to fap to sexualized anime girls. This show just demonstrates that even more blatantly than non-Shaft's Nisio Isin adaptations.
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AstralBread said:
Monochrosanity said:
Ikr, it’s very surprising that it’s not the talk of the town, at least currently. With it being directed by Shinbou, animated by Shaft, and written Nisio it should be all but guaranteed to be the biggest anime of the season, at least in terms of popularity.


28Manola08 said:
But you know, I think Monogatari fans who are hating this show needs to think twice, because as someone who also likes Monogatari this is literally the same but targeted to another audience.


It always was common knowledge that 90% of Monogatari's audience never actually cared for its writing, direction, or animation and were there just to fap to sexualized anime girls. This show just demonstrates that even more blatantly than non-Shaft's Nisio Isin adaptations.
I still don't really understand Monogatari hype. I tried watching it years ago, and after just a few episodes I got non-stop loli pedo pandering shoved into my face. Call it "art" all you want, it's still degenerate just like furry shit is. Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed it's meant to pander to those who like sexualized stuff specifically
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its reverse harem? damn what a turn-off
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SparkleDuck said:
AstralBread said:




It always was common knowledge that 90% of Monogatari's audience never actually cared for its writing, direction, or animation and were there just to fap to sexualized anime girls. This show just demonstrates that even more blatantly than non-Shaft's Nisio Isin adaptations.
I still don't really understand Monogatari hype. I tried watching it years ago, and after just a few episodes I got non-stop loli pedo pandering shoved into my face. Call it "art" all you want, it's still degenerate just like furry shit is. Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed it's meant to pander to those who like sexualized stuff specifically
Sadly, this is the reality of a much larger audience watching anime. Show them pretty colors, people tilting necks, eccentric characters, and overly complex dialogues/monologues that create a 3deep5me atmosphere while providing nothing of substance and we will have people shouting in your face-- Monogatari is the best show ever created, wohooo!!!! Lit af!!!1! Holy shit, Nisio Isin is based af!!!!!!
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28Manola08 said:
But you know, I think Monogatari fans who are hating this show needs to think twice, because as someone who also likes Monogatari this is literally the same but targeted to another audience.


This is what you just said:
You know that thing that you like? Well, here's something that was made by the same people, but is different from that thing and was made for someone else. Wait! Why don't you like it?

Let me cruder: You like lesbian erotica. Why aren't you also watching this homosexual erotica? It's made by the same people.

Can't you see how dumb that sounds?

Seriously, people need to stop "wondering" why many don't want to watch this. It's completely obvious why. Because it's full of pretty boys. I have no interest in pretty boys, thus I will not watch an anime with nothing but pretty boys. Why is that so hard to understand? I don't care how good it looks. I don't care how good the story might be.

It's like someone giving me the best, most expensive and refined mushroom-based dish. I don't care how high quality it is because I hate mushrooms.

I don't hate this show. I nothing it. It might as well not exist as far as I'm concerned. And it's no surprise. Why would anyone who does not want to to see pretty boys waste time watching a show with pretty boys?
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