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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wow, this is something I didn't expect, they cut the previous episode's scene with Sawaki to do a full backstory and explanations about Acca and Ura-Acca's backstory, so they were scientists and they "created" a little girl and from what I understand she's the real antagonist of the show (?) that backstory was sure shocking with how the wife and the daughter died (especially the hairdryer part, that's harsh) and so it's because of this girl (I don't know her English name the one in my version was translated xD) that they created the Wonder Egg, it's becoming more and more interesting to be honest, I don't really know what to expect for the last episode but I can't wait now with these revelations |
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| Oh god... this episode. Mannen deserved better tho, damn... |
XenocrisiMar 23, 2021 1:59 PM
| Wait, is this now science fiction with detective tropes? |
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Sondfer said: If i got it right - Fril, because of a jealousy, was giving all those girls a desire to die, so those cases are not a "real" suicide. But if they can't revive anyone, then what is a purpose of Wonder Eggs? To let deceased girls pass in peace? The original speculation was that this show is about how to accept the suicide of loved ones and move on. |
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| how in the hell can this show conclude itself in one episode |
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| Wow. Epic. It's almost last episode and they decide to bring such a new highlight with such a crazy story. Fril, Himari, Azusa... Three new characters and what a background story from our two boyz |
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| I havent watched the episode, i cant considering my country, but i will say one thing, the next episode is most likely NOT the final episode. The recap wasnt planned thats almost a fact, its very likely that the actual final episode will only get released with the blue ray, similar to what happened to kekkai sensen in the past. |
| This episode was epic 0.0 I didn't expect the backstory to be so dark, the artificial daughter with the sound of the lips really gives me the creeps We will see what will happen in the next episode |
| Even if there are still two episodes left, which I'm going to assume there aren't, isn't it a bit too late to go full 'it was the evil jealous AI Frill whose namedrop only happened last episode all along?' Shove in a signature move of the 'dangerous nymphet' now too, why not? How else will the audience know that Ura-Acca can tell Frill is behind it? Even if not too late for some, isn't it too cheap? Even if not too cheap for others, doesn't it conflict with what the show had established so far? Bored adult men create gelbanana teenager girl to fend off stress. Gelbanana girl is a little naughty nymph that gets jealous at one of the adult man's wife and unborn daughter. Gelbanana girl does the bad things and gets locked in the basement. Gelbanana girl wants to get attention and becomes Lain, influencing the outside world through the b i g i n t e r n e t p l a c e to make teenager girls act super sexual do her knock-off Lolita lip pop and kill themselves. I wonder if Ura-Acca checked for a synth component when he took her for a walk in the park. Todd Howard must be behind this bug. Gelbanana girl was the villain all along... allegedly, so I guess the logical conclusion is that AI's go wild when made to resemble teenager girls, those pesky creatures. Bottom line: don't give your sex dolls emotions and stuff. Edit: I acknowledge that 1) the Accas could be lying; 2) we don't know Frill's full motivation/means of operation yet; 3) maybe Frill isn't even the culprit; 4) the show wants to touch very lightly and then mess up what means to be a human, like they did with every other theme so far; 5) maybe they're going for a jebait to say the Accas should also try to accept their losses as well, instead of blaming others and going on insane crusades to correct perceived 'mistakes', when maybe Frill isn't even behind the 'allure of death' at all, but they can't accept sometimes people commit suicide; and 6) this post was over the top, but the sentiment is still the same. The jealous AI/artificial human culprit... biggest of oofs. |
KosmonautMar 23, 2021 2:53 PM
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| Wow i´m speechless, what a fantastic episode |
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| Holy shit the episode was so good but damn it was dark. Gave me chills down my spine. Got to see some backstory on Acca and Ura-Acca. They were scientists who created a girl, technically an A.I. But, oh my god that was some dark shit. |
Pre_YumMar 23, 2021 1:18 PM
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| I am in agreement with others, how will they end it in one episode after that! That was uncomfortable, I kinda feel bad for all of them. |
Froz3npancakeMar 23, 2021 3:35 PM
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| omg.. what was that episode (in a good way) i'm still confused on how neiru's business thingy is tied into this but this whole story omg. i just have to say i love frill's character design so much her hair and her eyes. poor himari.. i wonder what the last ep will be ? |
| This ep elevate this shit to another level, fking cloverWorks killing it |
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Froz3npancake said: I am in agreement with others, how will they end it in one episode after that! That was wild, I kinda feel bad for all of them, when originally I was thinking the Acca and Ura-Acca were just pure evil. There are 2 episodes left, although it won’t be released soon after the 12th episode. Probably in the blu rays |
| One phrase for this episode. What the hell? WEP team knocked it out of the park with this episode! |
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| lots of off-model drawings in this episode than usual they are having production problems really i guess episode 13 will be on the bluray since the sakuga community said the production of the final episode has not started yet but great episode so they created an AI girl that was jealous if they get closer to other girls eh and worse that happen is that the AI girl Frill is trying to kill all the girls too with the temptation of death Momo and Rika are now kinda too scared to fight so its only Neiru and Ai that can fight the AI Frill Ai vs AI is the finale i guess |
Kosmonaut said: deg said: Nah, Neiru is broken too. It's just that she isn't that important for it to happen on screen, apparently.Momo and Rika are now kinda too scared to fight so its only Neiru and Ai that can fight the AI Frill oh i missed that i thought that was Momo but now that i look at it the hair color is Neirus |
Kosmonaut said: deg said: Nah, Neiru is broken too. It's just that she isn't that important for it to happen on screen, apparently.Momo and Rika are now kinda too scared to fight so its only Neiru and Ai that can fight the AI Frill I am pretty sure that's Momoe. Eye color matches her I believe. |
Sisyphusson66 said: Upon closer inspection, I think you're right. I guess I'm guilty of fake news. Kosmonaut said: Nah, Neiru is broken too. It's just that she isn't that important for it to happen on screen, apparently. I am pretty sure that's Momoe. Eye color matches her I believe. |
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| Uru and Acca neglect Frill the first time, and Acca's baby mama gets killed out of envy. They now abandon Frill the second time around, and are surprised that she's killed Acca's daughter out of envy 😐 They even said it themselves that she is AI, so I don't know why they are so angered and shocked at that same AI, when they're the literal ones who programmed her (not to mention that all of her socialisation would've been through them, since she was kept isolated from anyone else all of her life. |
LezetMar 23, 2021 2:06 PM
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| my heart fricking stopped when the hairdryer was in the air this ep reminded me a bit of the original ghost in the shell |
| Oh my god did she just do the lip thing at the end? Anyways it was a good episode, Frill is a prime example of what's going to happen to us in the near future anyways. |
| clannad is the greatest piece of fiction to ever exist. |
| To be honest I've lost interest in the story like 5 weeks ago but omg this episode was amazing. I actually enjoyed watching it and now I'm hyped for the last episode. |
Sondfer said: If i got it right - Fril, because of a jealousy, was giving all those girls a desire to die, so those cases are not a "real" suicide. But if they can't revive anyone, then what is a purpose of Wonder Eggs? To let deceased girls pass in peace? I think Frill gave them more of a final push, a "Temptation of Death". Maybe the purpose of Eggs is so girls can understand death and suicide better so that they could resist that Temptation. Also, thank you show for making cute girls doing lip pop into something creepy and terrifying! |
| well that's just my opinion..... |
| my guess is that AI Frill manage to exploit quantum physics phenomena like the parallel universes discuss on that Neiru focused episode so Frill is there on some higher dimension that Ai needs to fight |
| For how innocent she looked, holy crap this was one creepy episode lol... probably the best one since episode 1... |
| such a well done backstory on ura and acca. i especially like ura's character. awesome episode. frill is scary and i can't believe that acca lsot both his wife and daugther... shame tthat she became attracted to ura. still confused on if frill was the one who caused the daughter's suicide, is frill somehow temtping people to kill themselves or soemthing? |
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| Yea uhhh, i dont know how to feel about this episode. As an individual episode, its honestly pretty decent, the production quality was still pretty good (besides some strange models), the direction was actually stellar, it really elevated the episode. I started liking the acca´s a lot more, their story was truly hard to watch, and it made me really feel for them. I was actually one of the people that thought they WERENT evil, which im glad they are not, it would be somewhat cliche if they were. Now for the things i did not like, first rika just "saves" her friend just like that? It felt really rushed. Another thing i did not like is how they are trying to create a reason for the suicides with a AI villain... like seriously? If they started the show with that premise it wouldnt be as bad, but thats not what they did. And lastly how the hell will they end this?? First, we still need to know what happened with the conversation between Ai and the professor, and we still need to know how to kill an AI god?? My expectations are quite low right now, not gonna lie. |
| Intense as fuck episode, but how are they gonna end it in just one more? |
| This anime shit is addictive |
| Even by Wonder Egg Priority standards, that was a pretty unsettling episode. |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
VP2003boi said: me too, i don't know how i feel about some AI shoujo being the villain or how are they gonna end thisYea uhhh, i dont know how to feel about this episode. As an individual episode, its honestly pretty decent, the production quality was still pretty good (besides some strange models), the direction was actually stellar, it really elevated the episode. I started liking the acca´s a lot more, their story was truly hard to watch, and it made me really feel for them. I was actually one of the people that thought they WERENT evil, which im glad they are not, it would be somewhat cliche if they were. Now for the things i did not like, first rika just "saves" her friend just like that? It felt really rushed. Another thing i did not like is how they are trying to create a reason for the suicides with a AI villain... like seriously? If they started the show with that premise it wouldnt be as bad, but thats not what they did. And lastly how the hell will they end this?? First, we still need to know what happened with the conversation between Ai and the professor, and we still need to know how to kill an AI god?? My expectations are quite low right now, not gonna lie. |
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| I'll have ptsd whenever someone does that sound with their lips now. They revealed a lot of things in this episode. They made a cute girl called Frill but things didn't go as they expected. I really want to know how Frill became like that and the other things that they haven't explained yet. I don't know if they can explain all the mysteries with the amount of episodes left but it'll be a great show if they manage to. |
z00nexMar 23, 2021 2:44 PM
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TweedleDane said: There werent that many like the guy said, most were just slight off models nothing truly bad, this one was really the only one that made me somewhat roll my eyes deg said: where exactly were the off models shots? Unless you are talking about smear frames, I really didn't see any off model shots .lots of off-model drawings in this episode than usual they are having production problems really i guess episode 13 will be on the bluray since the sakuga community said the production of the final episode has not started yet but great episode so they created an AI girl that was jealous if they get closer to other girls eh and worse that happen is that the AI girl Frill is trying to kill all the girls too with the temptation of death Momo and Rika are now kinda too scared to fight so its only Neiru and Ai that can fight the AI Frill Ai vs AI is the finale i guess The difference from the past eps you could say is the fact they aren't doing as much ambitious stuff anymore , especially the action scenes . But that's hardly a complaint .  |
| I have the attention span of a squirrel on ecstasy and usually I have to watch anime in like 3 minute chunks or else I zone out but I was able to watch this entire episode without pausing and I didn't even realize over 20 minutes had gone by so it gets like an immediate 5/5 |
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| Woah, okay this episode went to a turn that I didn’t expect it to do. A little bit of a backstory episode with Ura and Acca, there was a lot of dark moment in this episode that I wasn’t expecting tbh, but it was very well done. After hearing Ura and Acca backstory I kinda feel bad for them now, they been through so much. What I understand in this episode is that the Ai went evil and killed the off the daughter, and now people are committing suicide because of her, which I’m assuming that what is happening? Correct me if I’m wrong. Overall, I really like this episode. I’m very curious about the last episode. |
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TweedleDane said: deg said: where exactly were the off models shots? Unless you are talking about smear frames, I really didn't see any off model shots .lots of off-model drawings in this episode than usual they are having production problems really i guess episode 13 will be on the bluray since the sakuga community said the production of the final episode has not started yet but great episode so they created an AI girl that was jealous if they get closer to other girls eh and worse that happen is that the AI girl Frill is trying to kill all the girls too with the temptation of death Momo and Rika are now kinda too scared to fight so its only Neiru and Ai that can fight the AI Frill Ai vs AI is the finale i guess The difference from the past eps you could say is the fact they aren't doing as much ambitious stuff anymore , especially the action scenes . But that's hardly a complaint . nah im not talking about the smear frames but the character faces or head are sometimes drawn in deformed ways but this animation is not Kanada School one so its not intended clearly the ADs do not have much time considering this was delayed broadcast too |
Sisyphusson66 said: Frill went full Lain by the end? Part of me thinks that the whole "temptation of death" and Frill directly or indirectly causing these suicides is a matter of wishful thinking and hope on the part of the Accas. A way to simplify it to the point where if you stop Frill, then suicides stop, or at least go way down. Frill seems like she purposefully engages Urra-Acca for attention near the end. But on the other hand, I wonder how Dot and Hyphen get into the egg dreams. Surely it must be Frill, but then there is the question of why they only show up after the "mission is cleared"? What is Frill's interest? Or is she just a psychotic AI? I think this episode was absolutely brutal, and on its own, very strong. My one real worry is that there is so much left to cover, and so much that probably won't get any exploration (i.e. Rika's reaction to Dot), and clearly not a lot of time left in the series. I think this is right. 5/5. |
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