Bottom-Tier Character Tomozaki (light novel)
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Cobalt-Blue said: So true. Tomozaki has guts. Kazuya on the other hand...RebelPanda said: Good episode. The moment Tomozaki realizes he's not a "bottom tier character", rather, that he's just a person is what I've been waiting for all season. I love Fumiya. If Kazuya was in this show he wouldve stayed hidden until Mizu left 😂 |
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| My boy Tomozaki showing some development besides the obvious development he got from Hinami lol, I figured he might confront her after being told to confess to someone he may not actually like, and I’m also really glad he realized what Kikuchi meant by being easier to talk to, also really liked her yukata. Hinami breaking off their relationship like that was kinda brutal, can’t wait to see what happens on the final episode. |
RebelPanda said: Good episode. The moment Tomozaki realizes he's not a "bottom tier character", rather, that he's just a person is what I've been waiting for all season. In retrospect, it was definitely a good episode for this show’s standards (hella cringe, though, still). I just personally have problems with how everything has been presented to me, still, especially the time frame of his progression; it felt too curtailed in length (which is often a problem with most LN adaptations, tbf, especially rom-coms). |
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| Such a conflicting episode. |
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Of course, that's just some teasing from Aoi. But, woah! Aoi and Fumiya are parting ways?! They had chemistry but because of that single choice Fumiya did, everything suddenly changed! Fumiya's kinda telling Aoi that he doesn't like Fuuka, but he probably likes someone else, maybe Aoi? lol. The season is about to end and they have a major conflict?! They can't possibly solve it in just an episode. I guess Season 2 is very likely to happen. |
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| Everybody already commended Tomozaki for everything in this episode and I really liked that wall of text someone else posted about Hinami so I will focus on some other stuff (a.k.a. I will also post a wall of text lol). I had a feeling that, rather than Nakamura and Yuzu, the ones that are going to change their status quo on this camping trip are Hinami and Mizusawa. Ever since he was introduced as a character it was obvious he liked her and observed her and that seeing people around him act freely inspired him to do the same, so I really really like his development in this episode, because after all he is just a side character. I really liked how they were portrayed as two of a kind, seemingly perfect but detached from their own feelings and lives. What he said about him not knowing what he feels or wants and only wanting to look perfect in front of other people is probably true for Hinami as well to some extent. I like how even though that stands true he is still sure in how he feels about her and wants to meet the real her even though she didn't even remotely let him do that. What I like even more is how much they mutually understand one another in this scene even though only one of them is sincere and they both know that. She didn't say 'no' in the end to his confession because he said that he would like to find out one day how she really feels. The thing that she said 'no' to was to his proposal to start dating right now and he knew she would say no because wearing a mask is exhausting. Going to school, hanging around with friends, club activities, all of these are incredibly exhausting to her, as we saw on a few occasions that none of these were spontaneous to her. Personally, the biggest red alert to me was when Tomozaki found the recording of her practicing that joke for Nakamura, but I digress. Having a person you are supposed to spend the most time with and always be in contact with on top of all this would be impossible (not even mentioning the possible fear of intimacy) and knowing this, Mizusawa, full of concern, asked with a serious face just how long does she plan on staying on that side, behind the screen and detached from her character, to put in this anime's terms. I really liked this obvious show of his feelings and worry for her and the fact that he wanted to tell her his mind process to getting to his final decision in person, hoping that she will at least start doubting her way of life if not anything else. A few more things worth mentioning: his mature attitude that they shouldn't be dating if they are not honest with each other and his promise of not giving up on pursuing her. All in all, a wonderful and short scene that brought a surprising amount of depth to this anime and gave Tomozaki a final push he needed to listen to his own feelings, which he wanted to do from the start but doubted because of Hinami's domineering personality, all brought by a side character. Why I mentioned fear of intimacy? You saw her reaction at the end of the episode, even asking for her bag back, she wanted to cut off everything they had because it felt like he was leaving her behind. She wouldn't react so strongly and got it personally if she didn't cherish their gamer-friends relationship and didn't have a possible fear of abandonment. After all, I think we all know the feeling of getting hyperfixated on a game and all your friends stop playing and you are left all alone at the top (I've Won… But At What Cost?), that's why she said that he is different too. I feel bad for Tomozaki at the end who thinks he is still not good enough to reach other people even though he cares about everyone, but this situation is not the same as with Nanami, I hope he will understand that in the next episode. |
| Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
| I don't care how Aoi lives her life, but that condescending attitude at the end was a total bitch move. Just as she has her own way of life Tomozaki has one too. Going all your way of thinking is wrong/weak was going too far. I guess Aoi doesn't see Tomozaki as a friend if having different views about something is enough for her to leave him in the dust. |
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| I never even considered before now that Mizusawa & Hinami were a reflection of the two different paths Tomozaki could take on his journey. I'm glad he decided to just be himself and be more sincere, acting as the 'character' in the game of life rather than just a 'player' The fact that Hinami could just so easily drop Tomozaki like that and a few things she said have highlighted that there's something amiss in the way she perceives relationships with other people and even perceives herself to a degree. I hope she and Tomozaki can reconcile. |
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| Aoi = trash That's right Aoi fans, your waifu is trash. ahahahaha Okay, seriously, last week we got Ichika from QQ being a god-tier bitch but Aoi is trying to compete too?! A bit too late but the runner-up is up for grabs. Literally, Tomazaki just wants to do a few things differently and she immediately abandons him. Amazing. Can't wait to see what happens next, she will definitely treat him well at school! |
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| This is some next level of Oregairu. The ending song is kinda offputting. I prefer the other CV singing than Aoi's CV. The best is either Fuuka's ED or Mimimi's ED. |
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| Best episode in a long time, maybe best one so far. Finally getting some drama and meaningful plot development. Main girl owns Tomozaki in the game of life! Oh yeah and he wimped out on the kiss, pansy. Grey haired girl is boring. Tomozaki should get with hot Mimimi, the end.  |
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| Probably the best episode of the show so far. Seeing Tomozaki disagreeing with Aoi's way of handling human relationship was so satisfying. He finally gets it! |
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| Fantastic episode! Definitely the best episode of the show so far. And it really explains well why I don't like Hinami as a person, but I damn sure do like her character, not that I agree with the way she lives her life, it's just very interesting how it will develop. I am glad Mizusawa pointed it out as well, he's ready to throw away that mask, but what about her. I am sure we all have masks depending on who we are with, but Hinami's is too much. Also loving Tomozaki's development, Hinami pushing Tomozaki forward is great, but treating human relationships as just tasks and goals, disregarding other people's feelings is pretty bad. People can improve themselves while staying true to themselves. I am glad Tomozaki realized that. Kikuchi looked amazing in that Yukata though, but I hope Tomozaki sorts out his feelings and find out if he actually has feelings for Kikuchi. I really hope we get a season 2 and might as well adapt the whole series. Looking forward to the last episode of the season. |
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kuwangpa said: I was hoping that final scene went differently, e.g. Tomozaki catching Hinami off-guard by confessing to her instead. That would have been one of the worst possible outcomes and ruined what the story was going for. |
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| Thats Aoi's true face at last. Seems like wearing too many faces doesn't even make herself realize how much of a bitch she is. Granted she did help Tomozaki realize he could just be normal so it's expected he'd feel grateful for that. Eventhough she probably doesn't care. Next episode is sure to be a disappointing one, even if it's just because the anime is ending. |
| Nice, Tomozaki started moving on his own plan |
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| Ooh lots of very interesting and actually compelling developments in this episode. And wow that last scene in the train station was tough to bear, fuck you episode title you already said it "A Single Choice can Change Everything". Did you really expect a kiss, well guess what they almost did it, if it wasn't for Fumiya chickening out. But on the main topic at hand, it was just time waiting for Takahiro to confess to Aoi, and Fumiya realized that our heroine had A VERY STRONG mask from both her persona and her feelings. And I think that was his goal in the train station, he wants to decrease the gap between him and Hinami, and change the way how they do things. But sadly put girl takes it as a mean for them to separate and lets go of his supposed plans. That was really sad, this might make up for a bitter development next episode. On the other hand, the fireworks display and Fuka was really good. Too bad that Fumiya did not confess, the conditions were actually favorable, why did you not do yourself a very good favor?! |
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| I understand where Aoi is coming from during her talk with Tomozaki but she needs to tone it down. Let Tomozaki experience what he wants as this is ultimately his goal and his mission. Other than that I really want to see more romance between Aoi and Takahiro since I like the tropes/dynamics they have. |
 just wanna feel wanted by someone other than the police 😫 |
Kan-Climax said: People forget that Aoi actually help Tomozaki to become an actual function member in society. The problem is Aoi's method is too extreme. Of course Tomozaki will not turn back on her when he owed her plenty of things. He would not be havinh friends like he got now if not for Aoi. lol. She's a psychopath dude. |
| This episode was the most important of the series so far. Tomozaki changed his view about the world and about relationships, but he was a bit rude. If it wasn't for Hinami, he'd never go that far. Now, I'm not saying that she wasn't a bit bossy sometimes, but she was very important. I hope he realizes this soon. I'm happy to see that the date was a success, but it was sad to see that the conversation in the last three minutes didn't end in a good way. But hopefully things will tie up next week. One more thing: the masks topic in the bench scene was very insightful. |
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| Wft Aoi went will garbage character development in the last 2-3 minutes. Faking your feeling to someone can't be considered as an objective for your personal development. Same as thinking that refusing being a scumbag is equivalent to giving up... This last conversation really ruined the whole show for me. |
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BuriBuriZaemon31 said: MangaZed said: I thought all along though, that the reason why Tomozaki was that way, because he had given up on "life" and was also suffering from low self-esteem and low self-confidence issues and not paticularly because of his truthfulness and honestyOooh, that's why everyone is so mad, this is what I thought as well. Tomozaki stopping the "Fake Persona" should/will cause him to go back to how he was previously, thus making him a bottom-tier character and the entire show starts all over again. That is how I see it as well. Stopping his fake persona will make him go back to the person that gave up on life and he'll only play Tackfam all day again. |
driftah said: Is it just me, or was Hinami being a bit of a bitch at the end lmfao Definitely an understatement there. She was totally out of control. I was going into this episode thinking this a 10/10 series, this may knock it down to a 9 depending how they finish this up. Having the two of these relationship unmended would be a huge downer. |
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rajendra_othaku said: Anyone explain that... Mizusawa to hinami,"stop being to that side". This not exact words but...pls explain... about which side he is exactly taking.... About tomozaki...or someone else...??? The side of putting up facades, imo. |
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| Hinami is and has always been a bitch (with very nice legs). Even in her first interaction with Tomozaki. Ragging about some stupid shit. If he's smart he'll choose Kikuchi and live like a king. |
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| nice solid ep. i think its the first time in the series it got really deep and intimate. I hope it gets more seasons. I hate for it to be a 1 hit season wonder. I'd like to see the reasoning behind Aoi's façade come to light in the anime. I wonder how far the LN is of the anime. |
| I already want a S2. Cute episode, btw. I root for Tomozaki and Mimimi, though Dudi4PoLFr said: Wft Aoi went will garbage character development in the last 2-3 minutes. Faking your feeling to someone can't be considered as an objective for your personal development. Same as thinking that refusing being a scumbag is equivalent to giving up... This last conversation really ruined the whole show for me. Eeerm... That could be an "excuse" for her to express her true feelings, don'cha think? Maybe it's not fake at all. |
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