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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Welp, there it is. We got an episode about Romin and her school life along with a lot more focus on her. Cute and normal girl if you ask me. I think her dueling skills could need some improvement with the rushing strategies. |
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| Good episode again. This was actually one of the things that Sevens with its more down-to-earth setting could do better than Zexal, that is having a female beginner learning how to duel. Given how tight and plot-driven the duels were in Zexal, it is nearly impossible to portray a female beginner learning and actually participating in the plot without taking the spotlight of the protagonist. I really appreciate the good fun this episode has, it doesn't really need to have Romin be a spy from Goha at all to make her feel invested. As long as you can have more non-plot driven matches, there are plenty of chances for her to grow. |
| Overall: This week was probably by far my least favorite episode thus far because Romin ain’t much of a duelist and atleast is still relevant than let’s say Kotori, Anzu and probably feels like a new girl i can like. This week’s animation felt like it got better and somewhat more consistant than last week, but we will still see what else awaits us. We still want to know what will happen with her goals of being a musicians will be her goal or more to it. I just wanna know who that mystery person in the Opening we saw and at the end of the episode is. |
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| the only interesting part about this episode was the mystery kid bit at the end, and the duel was average like usual. |
| I really thought she was lying about not being a duelist. |
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GamerRaito21 said: Yes, Romin lost this episode but THAT'S OKAY! IT MAKES SENSE THAT SHE LOST; SHE'S NEW! It actually doesn't. Yuga only won from protagonist luck and there was no actual value in having him win so it felt like a complete ass pull. By forcing him to win every duel simply by having absurd luck it makes his victories feel much cheaper. |
GamerRaito21 said: Alice3173 said: It actually doesn't. Yuga only won from protagonist luck and there was no actual value in having him win so it felt like a complete ass pull. By forcing him to win every duel simply by having absurd luck it makes his victories feel much cheaper. It actually does though. I won't deny Yuga drawing Sevens Road Magician at the right time is classic protagonist luck, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's an ass pull. First off, the card Yuga used, Recovery Force, was a card we already knew he had back in his duel with Rook where his luck FAILED him. So when Yuga ends up using that card again in this duel, it doesn't feel like an ass pull because it was card we were already aware was part of his deck. Secondly, Yuga uses a deck of SPELLCASTERS. The requirement to activating Recovery Force is shuffle 3 spellcasters into the deck to draw 1 card. Recovery Force perfectly runs in tandem with Yuga's entire deck, so it makes sense that he'd run a card like that in the first place, further proving how his win didn't feel like ass pull. The very of Rush Duels also assisted him, since Yuga can draw until he has five cards in hand; making the chances of him drawing Recovery Force much greater and therefore feeling naturally. As a contrast, Soulburner VS Blue Girl is a perfect example of an ass pull. During the duel, Soulburner plays a continuous trap called "Gate of Fire" which prevents either player from taking damage that's 300 or less... This is an ass pull for many reasons. Why is the amount so specific, why does Soulburner play this card in his deck, and why does he conveniently have it and ready to go during his duel with Blue Girl (keep in mind that's the only time we EVER see that card)? Gate of Fire doesn't work in tandem with Soulburner's deck AT ALL since it doesn't interact with it or improves it unlike Recovery Force and instead has a very specific effect against a very specific playstyle. Him having this in his deck is just asking for a brick, then again this is Yu-Gi-Oh! - the anime where situational ass cards pop up left and right out of no where; it's pretty much the king of ass pulls! Everything else after is purely ridden on that protagonist luck, which isn't too surprising considering dumb protagonist luck is something that EVERY PROTAGONIST has done, like, majority of the time - or at least a good chunk. So much so that it feels like the norm for this franchise so for me personally, it didn't hamper the experience of the duel. Also, didn't Yuga lost last duel because he was unlucky? Could just be a one time thing sure, but at this point we don't know. The fact that the very last episode depicts Yuga getting fucked by the very concept that every protagonists rides on shows that it can even go against him, at least for now. So with all this in mind, topped by the fact Romin's a beginner compared to Yuga - I don't see how Yuga winning doesn't make sense. Yu-Gi-Oh! is not only about skill, it also has a little luck involved, as with any other card game out there. As of value, that remains to be seen, because to me, it seems like a set up for the journey Romin's character's going to take: going from a girl who wasn't particularly interested in dueling to learning about it, then loving it. Yuga's victory does at least show that Romin still has a long way to go. This is only a prediction though based off what I viewed. There's a very simple solution to this entire issue that they could've gone with without making Yuga's win feel like an asspull. Romin had a monster on the field with 1100atk and she had 300lp. They could've made him draw literally any monster that he could play on the field that has 1400+atk. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Romin absolutely should've won. Just that the way Yuga did win felt too far out there to be believable. |
| Wow, people really enjoy writing essays in this thread. If I add my own two cents on the controversy: Yeah, Yuga got lucky, but honestly in this case it feels kind of okay. Why? Because the card seems compatible with Yuga's strategy: Return 3 spellcasters from GY to deck, then draw 1 card. It's a perfectly reasonable card for Yuga to have in his deck, even if it is a 1/30 chance, he'd actually draw the winning card. It's not completely impossible. I recently watched Arc-V seasons 1 and 2 on Netflix and even started finally getting through to the end of 5Ds and let me tell you, the convenience characters get out of completely situational cards in those two series is still on a much higher level than what happened in this one episode. But back to the topic at hand, I am still enjoying this series. It's dumb fun and that's alright. The new dueling system is interesting and easy to follow. Characters are still two-dimensional and cartoon-y, so hopefully they change things up a bit as we go along. Unfortunately it seems I predicted correctly, that they don't have much of a big plan for Romin yet. Lots of people saw her as an antagonist in disguise, I just thought she's either faking not dueling or being "too-cool-for-school" about dueling. Guess I wasn't 100% correct, but anything about her still just indicates she will be this season's "girl duelist" with no deeper involvement in the plot. Speaking of the "girl duelist", it's a bit lame, how again they just seem to plan giving her a "girl duelist deck". They do this in every other season, where she just gets a deck with girls doing something musical. Don't get me wrong, I liked cyber girls from GX and even more recently I remember really enjoying Trickstars for their burn-playstyle, but I think there is a reason, why I liked Mai and Akiza's decks most out of all "girl dueslits" in each season. |
| Man, it's all good until that bs sevens road topdeck. I swear, Romin was robbed! I'm looking forward to see more of everyone, but it kinda left a sour taste in my mouth. They really need to work on the duel beyond sevens road sacking. |
| I was so shocked to see them explain the rules of Yu-Gi-Oh! Seriously. And it's certainly tedious for someone who already knows how to play, but think of it from the perspective of someone with no experience in the game. This is much better than Duel Monsters in that sense. The "Rush duels are so fun" skit is getting old though. Hopefully there's an actual plot to the next episode. Still not on board with how young the characters look. Then again, if Konami knew their audience, they wouldn't be making Pachinko machines... And the duel was pretty good. There was a decent amount of strategy, and I disagree that pulling Sevens Road is an ass-pull. You'd be surprised how frequent that sort of thing is when your spellcaster deck is so finely tuned. Plus, he didn't NEED to pull Sevens Road, just any monster with 1400 or more ATK, of which he has quite a lot apparently. Can't wait to see some of those other cards in action. |
 Even if you kill me, even if you kill anyone, even if you reset science… There’s always an idiot who will try anything, and the shiny monkeys will inevitably create a technological civilization. |
| Seems like they're really showing off Rush duels, and giving backstories to characters first of all before heating up the plot. Which isn't bad at all. It's great to see. Let the kids have some fun, and then WHAM. Serious plot begins with more than like that company kicking Yuga's ass in a duel. Having him lose would really be great story telling, as then you can have Yuga grow and learn to over come a powerful foe. |
| [quote=GamerRaito21 message=59625455] It's fine, I'm not complaining :). Darvallas said: I was so shocked to see them explain the rules of Yu-Gi-Oh! Seriously. And it's certainly tedious for someone who already knows how to play, but think of it from the perspective of someone with no experience in the game. This is much better than Duel Monsters in that sense. Eh, the explaining isn't too bad. They did a little bit of it in the previous two episodes as well and it's only a short segment + if I remember correctly, they explained some other mechanics back then. Sooner or later they'll probably stop with it completely. Given how we learned, how to play the game with the original, by trying to make sense from watching a game, that didn't even have established rules at the time of writing, it's kind of cool they added this for newcomers. It isn't that new of a concept either. 5Ds was explaining one card almost each episode and Arc-V had an awkward classroom scene, where the kids of the Yusho duel school got different summoning methods explained to them 2 or 3 episodes into the show. Also I'm pretty sure the Zexal manga (and probably the anime as well, cause the first 1 + 1/2 volumes are identical to the anime) had some "educational" bits like that in some of the earlier chapters as well, it just wasn't visualized this well. |
| @robiu013 Exactly, it's good that they take time to explain the rules. Especially considering they essentially rebooted the game. I meant it got tedius for older players, but overall I see it as a net positive. As for 5Ds, I actually never watched it, so I can't comment on it. I've only actually watched Duel Monsters, GX, and a bit of Vrains when I got back into the game. Vrains didn't explain jack-all. I remember having to watch a dozen videos to understand the new mechanics. While they're not as complicated as people make them out to be, having a format without them is probably good for beginners and oldschool players. I'll miss Link summons, but that's probably just me xD (Come on, giving different effects to cards depending on where they're placed and what monsters link to them is really smart. Reminds me of Duelist of the Roses for Ps2) |
Even if you kill me, even if you kill anyone, even if you reset science… There’s always an idiot who will try anything, and the shiny monkeys will inevitably create a technological civilization. |
| I hope Romin can be much more useful than other heroine (you can call it lmao) in pash ygo series. Also i really like her personality. The duel itself is simply okay for me. I'm not really fan of rush duel concept in general honestly. But i still enjoyed the series so far as loyal fan of ygo franchise at all. Also i want extra deck mechanics are making comeback again just like vrains. |
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| While I'm not liking this season overall so far, Episode 3 is favorite among the first three episodes. I liked the backstory for Romin. |
| I am a thunder dragon! Hear me roar thunder and breathe lightning. |
| So far the series is still pretty chill. No real drama happening yet like some of the past series. Also, apparently the MC is some sort of genus inventor... but calls his inventions 'Roads". ___ ___ ___ But the master inventor is still whoever made that Duel Disk that can change shape/ programs to fit whatever the next Game setup will be... Just think, what if our Smartphone could change shape into different consoles or other devices, that would be awesome. ___ ___ ___ TBH, the Rush mechanics is similar to ARC-V pendulum summoning that allows you to summon up to 3 monsters at same time for quick summons and battles. Except Rush doesn't require the 2 side "scales" so it's easier to summon, but you have to start out from the bottom and slowly tribute instead. (and not constantly resummon your 5+ star monsters from extra) Also, Rush makes extra draw cards like "pot of greed" not as useful, since all players can draw up to 5 cards every round, so they'll never run out of cards in hand. (IE: if you have 1 card in hand, next round you can draw 4 cards instead of just 1, so you technically got 2 pot of greed built in by default) ___ ___ ___ And the MC wins by plot armor, cause they don't want the newbie girl to win and wants to show that a "king" shouldn't lose to some newbie in their own game. |
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| I feel cheated that Romin lost. I really like her already and I thought it would cool to have Yuga lose to his friends. Would show how anyone could win or lose in Rush Dueling but nah, the girl always has to be worse than the MC in Yu Gi Oh T,T |
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| Sad Romin lost...just wasn't shocked seeing her lose just like all my faves in Yu-Gi-Oh LOL, but I love her ace card a lot so I'm looking forward to seeing her duel more later on. |
| Good episode because it focused on Romin, and Romin = waifu, hopefully she will have more screentime dueling than most others Yu-Gi-Oh heroines. |
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| Lots of interesting replies here. I personally enjoyed episode 3. Romin is just a normal everyday person and that's okay. She's a beginner and her deck was a copy of Yuga's. Ofc Yuga was gonna win since he knows his own deck better than Romin knows his. This doesn't really affect Romin's character though. We have yet to see her actually duel with a deck of her own. Plus Yuga lost in Episode 2. So you clearly can't say he won just because he's the protagonist. |
| ROMIN IS SO CUUUUUUUUUUTEEEEEEEE AHHHHHHHH gonna get diabetes from all that sweetness owo anyhow yeah cool episode |
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| why do they keep saying sus, that feels like a liberty taken with localisation (probably). yes I'm watching the dub, it's what I'm used to with Yugioh, I may still one day rewatch in sub...if I enjoy this gen enough...I wonder how much the good response I saw to this anime was to the sub vs the dub. |
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