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Mar 12, 2020 7:55 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I love how this show is keeping the settings refreshing and around the world. Now they got a museum in Britain and dealing with a lapis gem.

Looks like the past still plays an important role in particular for Richard's character in this show.
Mar 12, 2020 10:23 AM
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OMG this is my deserve reward for sticking to this show until the end!!!

Also, the interesting point is that Seigi decide to chasing Richard even though he mistakenly think Richard is gay.

I'm a little bit sad that since it's saphire, not diamond, the will is nullified, and Richard doesn't have to officially register the civil partnership with Seigi to own it.

This anime is already beyond the average yaoi-bait anime, but with two episodes left, I hope it'll go beyond anyone expectation and make it official and legally bond same-sex love.
Mar 12, 2020 10:51 AM
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So it wasn't a diamond... best episode so far
Mar 12, 2020 11:00 AM
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Gay, gay gay gay gay!!!!! This ep is just too gay for me.
Mar 12, 2020 11:11 AM
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This episode was so beautiful and full of love. (I especially loved the sunset/scenery, when Richard tried to leave the hotel room through the balcony door.)

I'm so happy!
Really looking forward to the last two episodes.
Mar 12, 2020 12:26 PM
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I wish they would just kiss already...
Mar 12, 2020 1:25 PM
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Was that Chatsworth they drove up to?
Mar 12, 2020 1:42 PM
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this felt like the last episode
Mar 12, 2020 1:43 PM
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raifuresu said:
I wish they would just kiss already...
I agree!!!!! THEY CLEARLY LOVE EACHOTHER!!!! MAKE PUDDING FOR HIM FOREVER!!!
Mar 12, 2020 1:58 PM

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phantomfandom said:

I'm a little bit sad that since it's saphire, not diamond, the will is nullified, and Richard doesn't have to officially register the civil partnership with Seigi to own it.

They already said it's possible to divorce after getting the diamond previously, so it's not like the partnership is definitely permanent anyway - well, not unless they want it to be.

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ibraheem234 said:
this felt like the last episode

This was originally supposed to be the final volume in the series before the author ended up being able to continue, so I don't blame you for thinking so.

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Okay everybody hear me out:

- Seigi and Richard about to get married, or Civil Partnership if you prefer;

- them looking like they’re walking to the altar when they were walking up the stairs;

- Richard's entire speech later sounds suspiciously like wedding vows - you know, the whole “whether in sickness or in health, till death do us part”;

- ... and they even exchanged rings! (well okay one of it isn’t a ring, but anyway)

... They basically had a whole wedding and ceremony right there, y'all.

Other thoughts:
- I’m actually quite surprised at how detailed the British Museum scenes are, I feel like I can pinpoint which room Seigi was in, props to the anime team

>Jeff: hey if you get engaged to Richard we’ll be able to get that diamond
>Seigi: cool how much do i get
Seigi has absolutely no hesitations on marrying richard, huh...

- Richard, if you’re saying there are people who love Seigi and want him to be happy, and you count yourself within them... so you’re saying you love him?

Episode screencaps:
- ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

- BABIES!!!!

- I also really love how expressive Richard is in this episode - he actually emotes more than what the anime has shown so far in both the novels and the manga, but the anime chose to represent him in a more stoic manner. Mind you, it’s not exactly wrong, but honestly Richard has had some fantastic expressions and I’m glad anime-onlies can get to see some this episode.



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This was something I was waiting to say for this episode, but actually this series has an interesting crossover fanbase with Yuri on Ice fans and Banana Fish fans (well, to be fair, Uchida Yuuma is in both BF and this one). For those who watched YOI, I’m pretty amused at the episode parallels, which I’m sure are unintentional:



Just a little fun thing I observed~

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And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:


Edit: fixed a spoiler

Edit 22 March 2020: edited the spoilers, because I realized I mistranslated some stuff - they're indicated in strikethroughs.
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I felt really bad for Henry. He had to suffer th most because of the entire diamond thing. And his appearance also made me really sad, I just hope he can get better.

I, personally, didn't like the resolution of the mystery that much, after the built it seemed too vain tome. Like all of that (suffering) for nothing!

But other than that I loved the depth of character this incident gave to each one of them. Even Henry who we hardly meet, had a sufficient backstory.

I'm really excited to see who will Seigi end up with and how.
Mar 12, 2020 2:18 PM

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starlightshine said:

And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:

thank you for always commenting what was skipped so i don't have to go and try to read the novels myself lmao ♥
at first i was like "eh that's understandable, its not that important so i can see why this got cut for time to fit everything in an episode" but as i kept reading it just kept getting better like BRUH WHY DID THEY LEAVE THIS OUT OMG
Mar 12, 2020 2:24 PM

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So Richard told Seigi: "Just to clarify one thing, I never had "men" as lovers, it was a girl".

So this is confirmed to be pure yaoi-bait.

BUT

We have to admit that their friendship became "gayer" and "gayer" in each episode we watched.

AND

I kinda love it.

Gosh, the thing is cleary made to be ambiguous, and I still feed my fujoshi hopes with this shit, damn it!

But I guess this is kinda of the point of BL-bait anime.
Mar 12, 2020 2:36 PM
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I'm glad that the episodes have become connected now. At the beginning they seemed to be going with a gem of the week kind of plot, but now that everything is connected the series is a lot better in my opinion. I'm kind of sad that we only have 2 episodes left, I feel like the series could continue. (I'm not sure how much of the completed books we have/will have covered so far we are at 4/9 published?) I don't think that we will get another series, but an OVA would be nice.
Mar 12, 2020 2:50 PM

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_juno said:
So Richard told Seigi: "Just to clarify one thing, I never had "men" as lovers, it was a girl".


He said "So far, I haven't had any male lovers" so he seems to be open to the idea. I don't think that makes it bait at all.
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_juno said:
So Richard told Seigi: "Just to clarify one thing, I never had "men" as lovers, it was a girl".

So this is confirmed to be pure yaoi-bait.

BUT

We have to admit that their friendship became "gayer" and "gayer" in each episode we watched.

AND

I kinda love it.

Gosh, the thing is cleary made to be ambiguous, and I still feed my fujoshi hopes with this shit, damn it!

But I guess this is kinda of the point of BL-bait anime.


Eh i feel like this is kinda unfair to call it bait?
First of all, the anime cut a lot of content from the novels. I suppose maybe so the series would appear more "neutral"?
Second of all, that line abt having a male lover etc. was a little diff in the novels iirc? It seemed like it was more like "not yet at least".
And third of all, the series is still ongoing and we dont know how its going to end. However, the books seem to be very open about the idea of them together so ig we will see.
Mar 12, 2020 2:54 PM

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starlightshine said:


And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:


oh dear god thank you for these comparisons.

Mar 12, 2020 3:31 PM

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I love that the first thing that Seigi did after meeting Richard was pretty much to confirm if his first lover was a guy. xD I mean, there was no way for him to know before Richard told him because both Richard and Jeffrey used words like "ano hito" and "koibito", which could really refer to either a man or a woman. But now he can rest easy knowing that he is his first boyfriend? lol And thanks to him Jeffrey, Henry, and especially Richard, are free. There is no longer a "diamond" or a will binding them down. But to think that Seigi would try to do something like that... It was a selfless act to help his beloved Richard, but it was also reckless. He didn't think things through, and of course Richard wouldn't be happy with this kind of sacrifice. Good thing it wasn't a diamond at all. I really loved this episode though, Seigi even helped the three of them to make up with each other with the power of his pudding. I mean, they are family and they grew up together. Sure, there was what Jeffrey did because of the will, but I'm glad they got another chance to be together again. And welp, Richard and Seigi pretty much skipped dating and are engaged now. lol Well, at least somewhat officially in Richard's homeland. haha I didn't really like how the episode ended though. I mean, before the scene after the ED because I thought they would be separated for a long time, but thankfully it doesn't seem to be the case. Richard is back!
Mar 12, 2020 3:50 PM

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Horn_dawg_2019 said:
Gay, gay gay gay gay!!!!! This ep is just too gay for me.


more like not fucking gay enough!

At least force a kiss, fuck!
Mar 12, 2020 3:55 PM

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Kaymyu said:
starlightshine said:


And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:


oh dear god thank you for these comparisons.


thank you thank you Jesus! <33333333
Mar 12, 2020 4:38 PM
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starlightshine said:

And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:


OMG I NEED ALL OF THESE IN THE ANIME WTH??
Mar 12, 2020 6:48 PM

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mirp448 said:
starlightshine said:

And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:

thank you for always commenting what was skipped so i don't have to go and try to read the novels myself lmao ♥
at first i was like "eh that's understandable, its not that important so i can see why this got cut for time to fit everything in an episode" but as i kept reading it just kept getting better like BRUH WHY DID THEY LEAVE THIS OUT OMG


Who! So many cuts :(((

Thank you so much!
Mar 12, 2020 7:04 PM

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Can we get a KappaPride in the chat.
Mar 12, 2020 8:31 PM

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Chris_Frabotta said:
raifuresu said:
I wish they would just kiss already...
I agree!!!!! THEY CLEARLY LOVE EACHOTHER!!!! MAKE PUDDING FOR HIM FOREVER!!!

LITERALLY I JUST- THE TENSION THE ENTIRE EPISODE WAS KILLING ME



N͓̽o͓̽ ͓̽J͓̽u͓̽s͓̽t͓̽i͓̽c͓̽e͓̽.͓̽ ͓̽N͓̽o͓̽ ͓̽P͓̽e͓̽a͓̽c͓̽e͓̽.͓̽

Mar 12, 2020 10:02 PM
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I've been shipping these guys so hard, just kiss already jesus
Mar 12, 2020 10:04 PM

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I see, Seigi thought Richard was gay this whole time.

I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that Richard hasn't denied being gay.

After all this homoerotic tension, it would be annoying if they don't end up taking a BL path. . . kind of like No. 6, but with a happy ending.

This might sound inappropriate, but I want that pudding! It looks so delicious!!
Mar 13, 2020 3:06 AM

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Kaymyu said:
starlightshine said:


And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:


oh dear god thank you for these comparisons.


Now, I'm definitely gonna read the novel. This sounds hilarious. :D
"If you think you can talk your way out of this one, by all means please do." - Near
Mar 13, 2020 3:08 AM

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The lapis lazuli of an ultramarine lookalike ended up leading Seigi to Richard in an unknown land.

Alas, as much as Seigi is relieved to see Richard, the same could not be said for the latter. And the Yaoi/BL bait of Seigi was debunked in spite of knowing the plentiful history of Richard.

However, with Harry and Jeffrey still fighting for the family heirloom, Richard has no choice but to escort Seigi out of trouble, but Seigi being the "hero of justice", decides to take up on the offer instead which ires Richard badly.

As magnificent and royal as Richard's family was in sight, thank God it wasn't a diamond (and for God's sake, you can tell by the gemstone shape regardless of the transparency). The joke's on the family members from a cursed will of misfortune. And with Seigi, Richard just exposed all of his wilful shortcomings, but also decides to accept him for who he is all this while (and please just kiss already...).

Glad that Seigi's pudding actually reconciliated Richard and his brothers, and in exchange, both returned their individual heirlooms for last words of goodbyes.

Really good episode, loved the buildup from the beginning of Episode 1 to now, it was all worth it. What I'm scared of now, is their own post-journeys from here on. Hope the gayness shows though.
Mar 13, 2020 8:20 AM

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That was a great episode, and it really felt like a last episode. Though the enjoyment for me was a bit less that I probably should have enjoyed it because first of all, I read the comment section first (huge mistake) and second, I wasn't that into it in the previous episode so I forgot a lot of details from it. But I still like this episode a lot.

Also, I'm really confused. Wasn't the condition to marry a traditional English housewife? How come Seigi was allowed to be the partner of Richard then? I mean that's alright with me but I don't understand how the will works anymore.

starlightshine said:

And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:

Question, where can you read the novels? Based from this alone, I'd definitely want to read all the novels so far.
Mar 13, 2020 9:01 AM

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jd2001z said:

Also, I'm really confused. Wasn't the condition to marry a traditional English housewife? How come Seigi was allowed to be the partner of Richard then? I mean that's alright with me but I don't understand how the will works anymore.

Okay, the NG list was more written in the style of "if the heir marries a woman of Asian descent, they will be entitled to a sapphire". That is to say, there is no mention of the heir being in a civil partnership with a Japanese man, since back during the time when the NG list was crafted, civil partnerships literally did not exist. That was why the lawyer said they'd found a loophole.

And as for the novels, there is no official English translation; those bits were taken from a Chinese translation (I'm bilingual). Apologies for that, but if you still want to try your hand at it, I included link to the Chinese translation in the doc. If you can read Japanese though, you can buy the JR novels on Honto, Bookwalker, and other sites that sell Japanese novels!
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starlightshine said:
Okay, the NG list was more written in the style of "if the heir marries a woman of Asian descent, they will be entitled to a sapphire". That is to say, there is no mention of the heir being in a civil partnership with a Japanese man, since back during the time when the NG list was crafted, civil partnerships literally did not exist. That was why the lawyer said they'd found a loophole.

And as for the novels, there is no official English translation; those bits were taken from a Chinese translation (I'm bilingual). Apologies for that, but if you still want to try your hand at it, I included link to the Chinese translation in the doc. If you can read Japanese though, you can buy the JR novels on Honto, Bookwalker, and other sites that sell Japanese novels!

I see, I guess the subs from where I watched it were mistranslated cause I really thought he had to marry an English woman. Thanks! Unfortunately I can't read Japanese so I'll just be content with your translations for now lol
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jd2001z said:
starlightshine said:
Okay, the NG list was more written in the style of "if the heir marries a woman of Asian descent, they will be entitled to a sapphire". That is to say, there is no mention of the heir being in a civil partnership with a Japanese man, since back during the time when the NG list was crafted, civil partnerships literally did not exist. That was why the lawyer said they'd found a loophole.

And as for the novels, there is no official English translation; those bits were taken from a Chinese translation (I'm bilingual). Apologies for that, but if you still want to try your hand at it, I included link to the Chinese translation in the doc. If you can read Japanese though, you can buy the JR novels on Honto, Bookwalker, and other sites that sell Japanese novels!

I see, I guess the subs from where I watched it were mistranslated cause I really thought he had to marry an English woman. Thanks! Unfortunately I can't read Japanese so I'll just be content with your translations for now lol

Not exactly a mistranslation, but it's basically a long and detailed list of "if the heir marries a woman [not of a traditional English descent] they will get a sapphire" and so the conclusion was to marry an English woman for the diamond. Perhaps the script overly summarised the story?
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damn the yaoi-bait has been ramping up these past few eps lmao. Although I don't even think it's bait anymore it's more like denial at this point



but as predicted, another 'marriage' that never went through ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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@starlightshine Huge thank you for the well detailed explanation! 🤗👍


Mar 14, 2020 8:54 AM

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I'm surprised this isn't tagged shounen-ai, because it clearly has elements of it.
Mar 14, 2020 1:45 PM

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I have mixed feelings about this. At first, when they were supposed to get married I thought the show took the dumbest direction, but then when the truths unfolded and Richard berated Seigi for his actions and even after the hug I saw it as a good depiction of friendship. Yep, for some reason, no matter how many people see gayness here, I just don't see it in this case. Or to put it in other words, I don't ship them and would like all of this to be a depiction of friendship that doesn't get ruined when touched with somewhat sensible topics. I found it really nice that they can talk so honestly with each other and still maintain some boundaries. A deep connection doesn't necessarily have to be romantic, other options besides romance have value too. In the end though, when they exchanged gemstones... well, it was a meaningful moment. But a bit too much for my liking.
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ibraheem234 said:
this felt like the last episode


Exactly. I even double checked to be sure that I still have two episodes to watch. No ready to say goodbye to this show.
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starlightshine said:
phantomfandom said:

I'm a little bit sad that since it's saphire, not diamond, the will is nullified, and Richard doesn't have to officially register the civil partnership with Seigi to own it.

They already said it's possible to divorce after getting the diamond previously, so it's not like the partnership is definitely permanent anyway - well, not unless they want it to be.

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ibraheem234 said:
this felt like the last episode

This was originally supposed to be the final volume in the series before the author ended up being able to continue, so I don't blame you for thinking so.

---

Okay everybody hear me out:

- Seigi and Richard about to get married, or Civil Partnership if you prefer;

- them looking like they’re walking to the altar when they were walking up the stairs;

- Richard's entire speech later sounds suspiciously like wedding vows - you know, the whole “whether in sickness or in health, till death do us part”;

- ... and they even exchanged rings! (well okay one of it isn’t a ring, but anyway)

... They basically had a whole wedding and ceremony right there, y'all.

Other thoughts:
- I’m actually quite surprised at how detailed the British Museum scenes are, I feel like I can pinpoint which room Seigi was in, props to the anime team

>Jeff: hey if you get engaged to Richard we’ll be able to get that diamond
>Seigi: cool how much do i get
Seigi has absolutely no hesitations on marrying richard, huh...

- Richard, if you’re saying there are people who love Seigi and want him to be happy, and you count yourself within them... so you’re saying you love him?

Episode screencaps:
- ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

- BABIES!!!!

- I also really love how expressive Richard is in this episode - he actually emotes more than what the anime has shown so far in both the novels and the manga, but the anime chose to represent him in a more stoic manner. Mind you, it’s not exactly wrong, but honestly Richard has had some fantastic expressions and I’m glad anime-onlies can get to see some this episode.



---

This was something I was waiting to say for this episode, but actually this series has an interesting crossover fanbase with Yuri on Ice fans and Banana Fish fans (well, to be fair, Uchida Yuuma is in both BF and this one). For those who watched YOI, I’m pretty amused at the episode parallels, which I’m sure are unintentional:



Just a little fun thing I observed~

---

And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:


Edit: fixed a spoiler


They could whole 2 episodes with this much content lol so good! I wanna read the novel now
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starlightshine said:
phantomfandom said:

I'm a little bit sad that since it's saphire, not diamond, the will is nullified, and Richard doesn't have to officially register the civil partnership with Seigi to own it.

They already said it's possible to divorce after getting the diamond previously, so it's not like the partnership is definitely permanent anyway - well, not unless they want it to be.

---

ibraheem234 said:
this felt like the last episode

This was originally supposed to be the final volume in the series before the author ended up being able to continue, so I don't blame you for thinking so.

---

Okay everybody hear me out:

- Seigi and Richard about to get married, or Civil Partnership if you prefer;

- them looking like they’re walking to the altar when they were walking up the stairs;

- Richard's entire speech later sounds suspiciously like wedding vows - you know, the whole “whether in sickness or in health, till death do us part”;

- ... and they even exchanged rings! (well okay one of it isn’t a ring, but anyway)

... They basically had a whole wedding and ceremony right there, y'all.

Other thoughts:
- I’m actually quite surprised at how detailed the British Museum scenes are, I feel like I can pinpoint which room Seigi was in, props to the anime team

>Jeff: hey if you get engaged to Richard we’ll be able to get that diamond
>Seigi: cool how much do i get
Seigi has absolutely no hesitations on marrying richard, huh...

- Richard, if you’re saying there are people who love Seigi and want him to be happy, and you count yourself within them... so you’re saying you love him?

Episode screencaps:
- ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

- BABIES!!!!

- I also really love how expressive Richard is in this episode - he actually emotes more than what the anime has shown so far in both the novels and the manga, but the anime chose to represent him in a more stoic manner. Mind you, it’s not exactly wrong, but honestly Richard has had some fantastic expressions and I’m glad anime-onlies can get to see some this episode.



---

This was something I was waiting to say for this episode, but actually this series has an interesting crossover fanbase with Yuri on Ice fans and Banana Fish fans (well, to be fair, Uchida Yuuma is in both BF and this one). For those who watched YOI, I’m pretty amused at the episode parallels, which I’m sure are unintentional:



Just a little fun thing I observed~

---

And now, for the novel content cut from this episode you all have been waiting for:


Edit: fixed a spoiler


thank you for these details from the novels!!
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Thanks a lot to starlight shine for the novel information! Whenever it comes out in English and I can buy it im going to read it! :3 I really like Seigi and Richard and the whole story, but the anime skipping stuff is a bit confusing and the pace is weird sometimes, so thanks so much for adding this!!
Mar 25, 2020 10:41 AM

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So with all that build up nothing happened at all lol. The diamond turned out to be a fake and a happy conclusion to the case.
Apr 11, 2020 7:46 AM

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Worst episode so far
Apr 23, 2020 8:40 AM

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They really went from friends to partners in life back to friends again there, still confused what kind of relationship Richard and Seigi will stop at because I don't know anymore

I'm kind of curious to who the governess is and who Richard's old flame was

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From the start I was hoping for them to end up with each other, especially bc their dynamics match in a way - reckless and composed (or maybe even the other way around 👀). Tbh, It didn't even feel as baity as some other shows so I hope they do end up together. That jewel exchange felt very endearing to me too.
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probably my fav episode so far!

I didn't expect it to be a white sphere and not a diamond, Seigi was fr gonna risk it all for Richard ;_____;
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Ara ara the diamond weren't real.
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OMG SO BEAUTIFUL! Best episode so far, I wasn't expecting all this.

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