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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Yeah I can't be surprised that Nomaru is in a desperate situation this episode. It's also about time Seizaki finally decided to execute his plan. For what's worth, anything can happen in this show and this episode turned out to be slightly more violent than I was anticipating. |
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| It turned out that Magase has the ability similar to Eucliwood Hellscythe in "Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?". Quite supernatural... Then the show has turned into "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni". Incidentally, I found that this show is based on a novel that was written by Nozaki Mado. This name rang a bell. He was the script writer of "Kado: the right answer". It was a highly claimed show as an eccentric SF anime from a certain spectrum of audience. Actually, the show has a lot of silly aspects, but if you like Babylon, you would also like Kado. |
| Wow that was a harsh episode, the suicide scenes were really disturbing That execution in the end was insane |
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| What the fuck man. That was... so graphic. Wasn't expecting this to suddenly become so violent o.O |
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| This was such a mess. The violence for the sake of violence or, at least, it's not clear yet what Magase's true objective is and how it's tied with Itsuki. His explanation was somewhat logical and they could work with that and actually gain support from people, but they decide to kill everyone opposing them? Won't it make things more difficult? The thing with Sekuro was awful and cruel and so far totally unnecessary. It was more than enough that Kujiin died too. My impression of the show just dropped significantly. While the previous episode was a bit boring, this one I really disliked. I hope the overall morale of the story will make sense after all. Maybe it's a good thing that the way evil was shown appeared disgusting but I'm sure there'll be just as many who'd think that Magase was cool and attractive. Also, the way they incorporated food between the scenes was kinda cheap and meh. |
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| Bruhhhhh wow that took a more gruesome route, though I feel like it's the issue with it being 12 eps that it seemed to happen rather quickly Another great performance, this time from Sakurai Takahiro Honestly wasn't expecting both of the characters to actually die at all so that was definitely a surprise to be sure. Again, with the 12 eps I feel like it's gonna end up being rushed how everything ties together with Magase and Itsuki and so on so forth Ilovebeanbag said: Poor sekuro and pony tail. If you can shoot your leg why not shoot her first? I'm pretty sure that was so he could break free from Ai's manipulation for only a while (kinda like every other show where the character injures themselves to get out of hypnosis). My guess is that Ai was probably already gone by the time he semi came to so he couldn't really shoot her |
Short_CircutNov 18, 2019 7:31 AM
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| that ending got me fucked up |
| Yep, this series will mess up big time at/near the end just like any other thriller series I've watched. Sekuro's cruel death was extremely unnecessary. |
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Poor Hiasa. I am confident that it is you. |
| This epysode was fucked up. Magase really needs to die. |
| After seeing Fumio hang himself I knew the poster was a foreshadowing to the deaths... Sick episode. |
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AdroSlice said: I have a question on Sekuro... Did she really die? Sure all her limbs were chopped off, but knowing this show I wouldn't be surprised if magase just packaged her up nicely and dropped her off somewhere, a hospital or somewhere to be found, that everyone would have to confront that she then would likely request euthanasia, a form of assisted suicide... With the last chop she beheaded her. |
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| I hope they can give us a good explanation why Magase got those superhuman abilities. Right now Babylon is a mess, and they want to 'shock' us instead of giving us a suspense and halfway decent thriller. The suicide topic could be used for an interesting thought-provoking plot about pros and cons of suicide or about good/evil, but they go for cheap thrills instead. |
| Ego = 1 / Knowledge | "More the Knowledge Lesser the Ego, Lesser the Knowledge More the Ego." Albert Einstein My ratings:  |
| oh my god, oh my fuc*king god! what an episode!!!!!!! this is how you should break a character, goosebumps........ this thrill, this mystery, this drama..... its like a drug, until next week only thing will be on my mind is whats gonna happen next? if they can execute the ending with some deep shocking thing or meaning it will be a masterpiece. I am falling in love with magase ai, Am I evil person? |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
| Seizaki lacks critical thinking lol I bet he still wouldn't consider using earplugs starting from now, it's also probably just a matter of time before he gets his family killed too @Azazin it's obviously gonna be some kind of pheromones but if the show has a supernatural tag then it could be anything, she's like Tomie without the @Ilovebeanbag Itsuki is one lucky guy, she hot af not to mention quite a supportive wife |
Haunt88Nov 18, 2019 9:56 AM
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| Death death everywhere. I think Ai Magase is a grim reaper disguised in woman form |
Nekko_Khayal88Nov 18, 2019 9:08 AM
| The way this show uses transitions is stunning. The torture scene was absolutely disturbing and really hammers home how evil Magase really is. Makes me wonder where the series is going in the second half. Also love how the smallest of details play a big role in this show. |
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| The scenes with the sausage and the ketchup just before the axe touch the limb xD |
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Bruh, the anime's poster was a big fat spoiler all along. (Thanks for pointing that out, Reddit.) |
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| Lol Seizaki makes me so mad. How dumb can an inspector get. He can he let such a situation come to be. He let basically everyone die and let those two go on their own when there was clearly something going wrong with the groups. Stop bloody whimpering and crying he knew he was dealing with a psychopath early on and should've taken precautions after seeing all those people jump of the roof AND his kouhai was murdered by her - he knew it was Ai Magase deep down and this had to be her MO. The moment the groups started to lose contact he should've known something very bad was up and he should go himself to check, instead the doofus just sent the girl to check? Ugh also it makes no sense to me how there's absolutely no trace of where Itsuki, Ai Magase and that girl inspector went? You're telling me right after a live broadcast there were absolutely zero eye witnesses seeing them leaving the scene? No CCTV inside a building? What about that interrogator talking down to Seizaki saying 'you youself said they committed suicide'? Um hello how do you explain how EVERY COP (emphasis on cop) committed suicide simultaneously and Itsuki, the wife, (presumably) the kid AND another COP disappeared (likely kidnapped)? It would seem blindingly obvious to me that none of those events can be coincidences. The only SOLE survivor is claiming to you that Ai Magase is responsible so how can you talk down to him and claim it's all 'trauma'. Is this really how incompetent police are? Why didn't bozo Seizaki make all these points clear to the interrogators? Why didn't he immediately move with full anger and urgency to find the girl and track down the people that kidnapped a police officer? In fact police officers being killed or missing should cause the whole agency to be in full swing. Why did Seizaki even go back to the police station and is not out in the field? Also now that Magase has sent Seizaki a video stream the doofus didn't even record any of it I'm 100% sure and was too busy screaming. It directly links Ai Magase with murder and now Sekuro that police officer has died after BEING KIDNAPPED from the murder scene, clearly showing how it could not have been simple group suicide. I've got too many questions now, a lot of things don't make any sense? Why did Magase even need to kill those police officers and why did she particularly want to use a physical method with an Ax and broadcast it to Seizaki? It presumes that she has full confidence that none of the murders will ever be traceable to her (including the steamed one). Honestly I think she's right I doubt doofus will actually be able to use it in a positive way at all. Her intentions nonetheless don't make much sense to me, was it just to make a statement to Seizaki and risk being caught? Maybe she wants to be caught. What's all those politicians going to say now? How is it not national news? Is the general public really that stupid and immediately change their moral/ethical/political opinions immediately after one interview? That's not at all realistic. Also I was kinda miffed how none of the politicians couldn't counter Itsuki's arguments? There's so many flaws in his speech and logic. Not once did he explain how exactly 'suicide' law is different from euthanasia (which is closer to what he's actually talking about since its about donating organs to save someone's life) - such things are already acceptable and is not the same as suicide. Doesn't explain how suicide will be treated legally nor how it would it be clearly distinguished from murder? What if someone coerced someone into suicide, the offender will get away with it because 'its now acceptable that people can kill themselves'. It's not explained WHY such a law is even needed nor does it address the root causes for suicide in the first place or any alternative solutions to lowering the suicide rate (considering Japan is an outlier not the norm, other nations have handled the situation better). I think Itsuki will use the deaths of the police officers for the suicide law but is the public actually all going to believe him and not have any bad feelings about the fact that mysterious suicides are connected to him? Magase knows about Seizaki's family so I have a feeling the mother and son are going to die next. Lots of plotholes and things I'm not looking forward to here because I'm sure in the next few episodes we're just going to see Seizaki being backed into a corner with no one believing him (despite evidence being on his side) and he will have to do everything alone by breaking the law himself and become a criminal to stop Magase. I doubt any of these concerns will be addressed. Don't get me wrong I think this show is brilliant still but I'm really fking hoping Seizaki will actually man the hell up, think smarter and stop being useless. I'm also kinda pissed all the main characters are essentially dead now with nothing to show for it. So much backstory and introductions to these characters will not be coming and it feels like a waste. We'll have to wait to see what happens I guess. Really hope Magase dies in the way she does not want and suffers once justice is served, only then will I be satisfied. |
| @IndianAnimeReker You are really overthinking it. Authors dumb down every other character to elevate one or two. Monster did it before, this one's doing it now although far more egregiously. |
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The last scene made me feel: God, Seizaki let every single one of his friends/coworkers die. I was expecting Kujin to at least survive till the end but nope. Goodbye Sekuro too. You will be missed. |
| I haven't seen an anime this demented in a good bit. Damn this show's message really wants to fuck with you so hard. You got one side that is trying to normalize suicide and making valid arguments, and you have the other side where they forcefully induce suicide. Like good god, playing devil's advocate with this show is just hard on everyone. |
 Sometimes you just gotta realize that you can't watch every anime you want to. The struggle is far too real for that. |
| Just completed the episode. My hands are still trembling and my heart still haven't calmed down. Is it even possible for a human to be this evil? Is she even a human? I'm having serious doubts about this show being just a detective thriller. Add a supernatural tag coz that's what Ai Magase is, a supernatural entity. |
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| Not kuirin and Sekuro in the same episode, no God please no, I'm not strong enough. I've genuinely never wanted to jump through the TV more and do something than this episode in the history of watching entertainment. I'm fucking furious and I don't know what to do. I think his family is next.I can't even think of any other comments other than this is how a villian should be, no redeemable qualities. Still would fuck. can't wait to pick up the LN today |
Marinate1016Nov 18, 2019 10:43 AM
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| That was a rather messed up episode. I didn't expect everyone to die just like that. |
| Going from manipulating people to manipulating an axe. That's almost like split personality. It's not the same kind of murderer. |
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