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JizzyHitler said: ORAAAAAAAAA said: one can only hope, I for the life of me dont know how they can but if they can somehow make it like bites the dust where the song sounds genuinly great on its own that'd be awesome, but I think the more likely thing will simply be the op skipping around.Do you think now that Diavolo has been revealed, the OP will be updated next week? Like DIO and Kira in parts 3 and 4, I could see King Crimson fucking with the OP. That would be pretty cool. I feel like this would come much later though, like maybe around right before the final part of the final fight cause this arc has only just begun and its gonna get way more fucking bonkers than it is right now There was also a suggestion I saw in a comment section elsewhere saying it doesn't have to be King Crimson's ability that changes the OP Manga spoilers, seriously don't open this spoiler if any of you reading this hasn't read the manga: I don't know if I agree with taking it this direction, but honestly with King Crimson it would only really make sense if it just cut out a chunk of the OP, which sadly doesn't have as much impact as something like stopping the OP or reversing it. |
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| Finally Diavolo gets revealed in all of his glory! And it was adapted great as well. Rest in peace Polnareff. May your final plan work out well. |
| Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts. |
| Rest in peace Polnareff. Came back only to die three episodes later. F. There isn't much that can be said about that conclusion without getting into INSANE spoiler territory, but I am super excited to see how David Production handles the remaining six episodes. The Diavolo fight is going to be so cool. I know most of the manga spoilers, but I don't actually know what happens to Bucciarati. He isn't in very good shape, that's for sure. Can Giorno heal him again or something? |
| Why did Araki bring best boi Polnareff just kill him? I'm sad now. |
| Is anybody else weirded out by part 3 Jotaro design with part 5 art style? Anyways, I think I'm in the minority when I say I found the upcoming art to be pretty annoying in the manga, and I was a bit disappointed with the final Diavolo fight. Here's hoping that DP improves things. I've loved all of the changes they've made so far, so I have faith. |
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| Polnareff deserved better :[ RIP Why didn't he just contact Jotaro? He could've dealt with Diavolo easy! |
Kaizenzen said: Meh... - stupid explanation how bucellati only sense soul and boss resemblance the same soul as trish. This soul thing is very stupid because it is the main plot not like part 4 where afterlife is just a sideplot and for fun. Plot armor for boss. - giorno and the gang came first at front of Colosseum, but the boss get in first. Plot armor again. I know we can think giorno find bucellati but that is inconsistent with trish said the boss around and at the end giorno get in without bucellati even when giorno doesnt feel time skipped yet - why diavolo suddenly revealed his identity from doppio. Like no one even know diavolo before. As i dont read manga, i always think diavolo doesnt come out because there's a big trade off or something disadvantage for boss live. I have watched 33 episodes and people who tell me to stop is numb. It is like a hundred i considered to stop, but i already watch it and also i love all other jojo. Chill dude At least you enjoy watching it You just look like you want to point out something bad about this series.. |
| “You should enjoy the little detours to the fullest. Because that's where you'll find the things more important than what you want.” |
Kaizenzen said: Meh... - stupid explanation how bucellati only sense soul and boss resemblance the same soul as trish. This soul thing is very stupid because it is the main plot not like part 4 where afterlife is just a sideplot and for fun. Plot armor for boss. - giorno and the gang came first at front of Colosseum, but the boss get in first. Plot armor again. I know we can think giorno find bucellati but that is inconsistent with trish said the boss around and at the end giorno get in without bucellati even when giorno doesnt feel time skipped yet - why diavolo suddenly revealed his identity from doppio. Like no one even know diavolo before. As i dont read manga, i always think diavolo doesnt come out because there's a big trade off or something disadvantage for boss live. I have watched 33 episodes and people who tell me to stop is numb. It is like a hundred i considered to stop, but i already watch it and also i love all other jojo. Plot armor is Kira developing Bites the Dust immediately after killing Hayato so he's not busted, or having a watch conveniently placed over his heart when Hayato attacks him with a Stray Cat air bubbble so that he doesn't die... In other words, stop being stupid there's like a laundry list of stuff like this throughout the series. Anyway... Awesome episode The Diavolo reveal, Polnareff backstory, and the Requiem reveal were such fucking hype moments |
| They really have nailed Diavolo's design in this adaption. He looks gorgeous yet kinda creepy. Good work, DP! |
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Meritas said: P.S. I feel like this is the first time Part 5 was actually done justice. They were probably saving all their budget for these episodes(but my question is: did were they seriously not able to find the resources for a complete proper adaptation, or do they really not care enough to). You have got to be kidding me. First time? I can understand if people don't like part 5 (story/characters etc.) as it's not for everyone but I can't really understand how anyone can fault the adaptation of it if you like it. I'm surprised you're satisfied with anything at all if you consider stuff like the Metallica, Grateful Dead/Beach boy, White Album fights etc to be mediocre production. This is the most consistent anime part in terms of quality and direction. And after the animated memes like the dance and the muda scene, postulating that David Production doesn't care or that this isn't a proper adaptation is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. |
kondeeJun 8, 2019 12:53 AM
| The reveal was pretty god dang intense...and it's pretty hot seeing the boss animated |
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| Poor Bruno, I wonder how is someone feel when they knew they're already dead "NANI?" *explodes violently Finally Diavolo reveal, guess that was pretty cool He's not my favorite anyway Don't worry Polnareff is fine, he's just turtling himself xD 5 episodes left Looking forward for the "Requiem" |
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| I wonder if things would have gone differently if Jotaro was the one searching in Europe and Africa instead of our boi Pol .... I feel like he could've defeated Diavolo with his Stand, since it seems better fit to counter King Crimson. :( |
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| It hurts me to see Buccellati getting tripped up by guardrail due to gradually losing his sight & hearing. My husbando all relied on his super strong resolve to get to this point with his dead body. Not to mention his arrangement for Trish after the fight. That conversation about his house in Naples made me teary. It’s a shame that it wasn’t delivered to Trish but to some shitty dad who didn’t care a little bit. Doppio here showed us what’s “in character in a second”. Talk about imitating your daughter, lol. I wasn’t happy about the fact that they changed the voice actor of Doppio in ASB, but I was amazed by the good job Saitou Souma-san did in this episode. The scene where Diavolo asked Doppio to shout out “Do you have a problem with me being a girl” was both hilarious & tense at the same time. When reading the manga, I was surprised to see Polnareff being this smart to ask Doppio to show the stand for identity verification. But it’s natural that he became more mature & cautious considering how much he’d been through in the flashback. Araki is never soft on killing or hurting his characters. Somehow Diavolo looks way hotter in his anime form to an extent that I would like to buy his Super Action Statue, which had never been taken into consideration. It must be the magic of the purple lipstick. I must get my hands on that shade! |
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| Amazing episode, Diavolo's the best looking villain so far. Now we'll have a 4 ep battle, like with Dio or Kira... |
Gamma said: The Diavolo reveal couldn't be any more perfect It was so rad and nothing like I expected... |
Surafd said: Amazing episode, Diavolo's the best looking villain so far. Now we'll have a 4 ep battle, like with Dio or Kira... Best looking of this season. Dio is still king |
Abubakar_Giwa said: I think Jotaro should have gone to Europe after Polnareff got injured or he didn't hear from him. I was surprised he didn't check out Europe after loosing contact with Polnareff. It might be a pothole, or simply "Araki forgot" moment, since Jotaro have learned about the arrows in Morioh in 1999, while according to Polnareff's story he and Jotaro split up earlier (but still in 1990s) to investigate those arrows. |
| I was smiling with the build up to that reveal. Seeing Polnareff get fucked up like that hurt more than the manga. |
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| The anime: "The gang controls all forms of communication. The second Polnareff started researching the gang, he became completely isolated". Anime onlies : "B-b-but why didn't Pol call Jotaro wtf harakiri forgot" |
| (episode 21) Diavolo: Omae wa mou shindeiru (12 episodes later) Bruno: Nani? |
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| I feel bad for buccellati :( Also RIP Polnareff but umh :3 |
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Erroratu said: The anime: "The gang controls all forms of communication. The second Polnareff started researching the gang, he became completely isolated". Anime onlies : "B-b-but why didn't Pol call Jotaro wtf harakiri forgot" You mad, bro? It's not only about Polnareff calling Jotaro, but Jotaro's being completely fine with looking contact with him. They went on a quest together, but in two opposite directions. Besides, as anime-only, I can't agree with what you have just written. It was stated several times that Passione's tentacles reach many spheres of society, like officials, civilians, communication. It is obvious that Polnareff had to be extremely careful. But it does not explain Jotaro's passivity, unless it was planned to be like that as he was on his own mission (let's forget about when he learned exactly about those arrows). I dunno what manga says about it, but we are commenting in anime's thread, so it's obvious we might not know source material. As I read further, even some manga readers' posts I read implied that Araki might have forgotten some about some details mentioned earlier. What is the truth? Dunno. Was Mr. Araki asked a question about it in the past, or is it directly explained in the manga? |
| aside from his sexy voice Diavolo looks hot That Bucciarati and Doppio scene was intense. The staircase parallel was really interesting even Araki remembered it I am really sad over Polnareff's death, it really got me when he pictured the crew in Egypt with Iggy too like damn. |
Vindicater said: Surafd said: Amazing episode, Diavolo's the best looking villain so far. Now we'll have a 4 ep battle, like with Dio or Kira... Best looking of this season. Dio is still king Kira looked better than Dio too |
| This is so spicy ! i hope they will not do a recap episode next week!!!!!!! |
| This part is hands down one of the best for me. 33 episodes,33 weeks of pure greatness I can't believe it. |
Nycro said: Modernoir said: Clearly you're in the minority given the ratings for the past few eps, why do you keep watching if you don't like it? Just drop the anime if it isn't for you. None of your criticisms before have made any lick of sense. First things first your statement that I should drop part 5 cuz I didn't enjoy the last couple of episodes is silly, don't you think? If you didn't know I gave the show a 10/10 and I still stand by that (maybe I'll change it to a 9/10 at worst). It's pretty much my favourite (anime) part and even if the next episodes are going to be as "bad" as the current ones it'll still be my favourite part. Modernoir said: In what way was I defensive or insecure? None of his posts hold any substantial criticism, I've seen his posts for weeks now to know that it's clear he doesn't actually like the show because he makes vague 'points' like "wow the animation was bad/wonky this ep" despite being wrong/not bothering to give examples when asked further. Perhaps fuck off, mate? There's nothing wrong with suggesting someone should drop a show they're clearly no longer enjoying to begin with, no need to make an ass of yourself further. Can't really disagree with my last couple of posts being pretty much worthless and sorry that I didn't respond to you but what else is there to tell... There are so many things I did not like and I really didn't feel like to pintpoint all of them. I left my vague opinions in those threads in hopes that someone understands or shares the same opinion as me because apparently those episode are well received (according to the polls) and I don't really understand why. I could give you some examples and those might be nitpicky to some but there are so many of them I don't think you can overlook them but I will do that in another post. It's currently late here and I don't have all those scenes in my head so I have to rewatch some parts here and there. See you then. Quite the rating scale you got there if you don't enjoy the last 10 episodes of the 39. |
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Shoryuuken said: Quite the rating scale you got there if you don't enjoy the last 10 episodes of the 39. Thanks, I guess? That's just how I rate things. Let's say an anime has an amazing first half but a terrible 2nd one (Claymore *cough*) I'll just pretend the 2nd half never happend and thus rate it good. |
NycroJun 9, 2019 10:04 AM
| Why tf do they look so slim in that flashback? Changing the art style isn't an excuse for being wrong |
Kaizenzen said: Meh... - stupid explanation how bucellati only sense soul and boss resemblance the same soul as trish. This soul thing is very stupid because it is the main plot not like part 4 where afterlife is just a sideplot and for fun. Plot armor for boss. - giorno and the gang came first at front of Colosseum, but the boss get in first. Plot armor again. I know we can think giorno find bucellati but that is inconsistent with trish said the boss around and at the end giorno get in without bucellati even when giorno doesnt feel time skipped yet - why diavolo suddenly revealed his identity from doppio. Like no one even know diavolo before. As i dont read manga, i always think diavolo doesnt come out because there's a big trade off or something disadvantage for boss live. I have watched 33 episodes and people who tell me to stop is numb. It is like a hundred i considered to stop, but i already watch it and also i love all other jojo. I mean, you can even go back to Kira's escape on part 4, when Crazy Diamond's healing instead of bringing him back to his hand, as it happened with Okuyasu, chased him. Or even how he had time to go to Aya's place, seeing how close the gang were chasing him. Not really trying to compare which part is better, but I think you just have to be satisfied with the results to buy it. You probably did it with the Kira example, but not now. I also think is kinda silly how it happened, but I'm not the bothered because I think the story is benefited by it. |
Because sadly it's not his story. It's Giorno's. Polnareff is just the NPC that gives him a reward for completing his quest. |
| poor Polnareff, had only a few minutes of screen time and died without even properly introducing himself to the main crew, RIP |
Warghost said: I wonder if things would have gone differently if Jotaro was the one searching in Europe and Africa instead of our boi Pol .... I feel like he could've defeated Diavolo with his Stand, since it seems better fit to counter King Crimson. :( Jotaro's stop time ability isn't that great in latter parts, specially against other time users. In this case, Jotaro doesn't have wide attacks like Silver Chariot, so he would just get obliterated. Just wait at the edge of your seat for this fight conclusion, you either love it or hate it bledsoe60 said: Why tf do they look so slim in that flashback? Changing the art style isn't an excuse for being wrong That's how they look in the manga, remember that Stands aren't physical like Hamon, they don't have to look like a bodybuilder to be "right" |
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Abubakar_Giwa said: Why didn't Polnareff tell Jotaro or how didn't Jotaro notice Polnareff was missing or almost dead in Italy? Boss vs Jotaro would have been incredible. They've specifically mentioned in this episode and the episode where Koichi tried to tell Jotaro about the arrow that Passione is cutting off outside contact for people who know too much. |
Kaizenzen said: OverkilledRed said: I mean, you can even go back to Kira's escape on part 4, when Crazy Diamond's healing instead of bringing him back to his hand, as it happened with Okuyasu, chased him. Or even how he had time to go to Aya's place, seeing how close the gang were chasing him. Not really trying to compare which part is better, but I think you just have to be satisfied with the results to buy it. You probably did it with the Kira example, but not now. I also think is kinda silly how it happened, but I'm not the bothered because I think the story is benefited by it. Only recognize part when kira run from jotaro and kira far ahead jotaro while jotara chasing him. I think that part inconsistent too. But at least, their fight is interesting, part 4 develop time to build how powerfull, scary Kira, and the skill is consistent. In part 5, the inconsistent part isn't covered by how good the characters, or story, or fighting. Part 5 feels flat. Chased by enemy, fight, new "skill", win, and so on until now. But the art and sound is cool anyway. Not sure why you're not liking such a classic and enjoyable part but it's developing in every episodes, Giorno killing polpo leads bruno to become capo, hitman team wanted trish to track down the boss, literally every character got a character development in hitman team fights, then in boss betraying arc trish got character development, abbacchio die and his death wasn't in vain because he completed boss fingerprint replay, which helped polnareff to get in contact with bruno gang, and later you learned boss was involved with arrow deal and without him part 3 and 4 would never happen. By now you should have realize that most of the jojo part has simple story but it doesn't matter because characters are really good, does every show has to be complex to be good? The characters of part 5 are not even fooling around like part 4. but then again every jojo parts are separted so they can be enjoyed in different experience, I hope you enjoy those parts which have yet to animate and you have fully rights to express your opinion. |
Ri22rkJun 11, 2019 3:58 AM
| I'm surprised that in this fierce discussion on whether Part 5 is complex or not, with all these arguments, and also ith many words of appreciation towards Doppio turning into Diavolo, nobody pointed out one thing... Doppio/Diavolo in the anime adaptation used King Crimson after saying: "Korewa shirenda". In the manga, from what I read, he didn't, but the dialogue was adapted in anime as it has appeared in manga. But King Crimson's time erase made whole Diavolo's monologue pointless and - if we look at it from Polnareff's point of view - awkward. I searched if somebody felt the same and I found this video perfectly describing what I am talking about: Bizarre, yet funny thing, because time erase added to this scene didn't ruin logic behind it. Polnareff just didn't hear full Diavolo's speech, but he could answer whether he agreed or disagreed with the statement that this situation was a test. xD Knowing full context was not that necessary. I believe Polnareff was shocked as hell when Doppio became a completely different person in a jiffy. Shocked to the point of not caring what Doppio started talking about and what Diavolo asked about. |
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