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GrimorumInvoke said: itsnouse said: I have some questions regarding what we have seen by far. 1. Why the heck people started evacuating only when the shit began? what about the giant hourglasses? The damn event was literally scheduled! 2.What's up with this thing about uncompatibility of the heroes? How duel between spear and shield heroes is even possible? How spear,bow and sword could fight the boss together if it was established in the first episode that they can't? The series is really enjoyable, but if things like that won't be explained I will be disappointed On the good side: Raphtalia is totally the best girl of the season Edit:I missed some things, my bad 1. The shit begins at a random place. You cannot evacuate if you don't know where it will happen. 2. I think heroes cannot level up together in a regular basis, but it is okay during the wave Actually they do not level up during the waves as well. The thing is that being unable to level up doesn't enable u to fight as well, they just don't gain any experience when they're fighting togheter |
Kougeru said: This show still just feels like it's trying hard to defend slavery. As I said last week, there was no logical reason for him NOT to free her already. This episode tried to make everyone else look like bad guys and Naofumi a good guy but sorry, he's still the real bad guy for wanted to keep her as a slave and for (as he admitted) seeing someone as a "tool" and not a person. Then Malty shows her racist side so she's still getting worse, too. Basically Malty and Naofumi are both terrible but the other heroes don't seem too bad,just ignorant of the truth. But the author still seems to be pushing awful messages like "slavery is okay if the slave says so" and the other stuff from earlier episodes. I see it very differently. Slavery is very bad, but in Naofumi's case, he felt he had no choice since the entire Kingdom hated him. Nao was also traumatized to the point where his trust in people diminished. I think the author is only using slavery as a harsh reality to make the audience feel a certain way. |
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| I kinda wish they made his reactions a little less over the top... so much drama, delivered in such an unfashionable way;; |
| i need to point out that anime is a L.N adaptation not manga, so you can't really compare scenes from anime to manga which it isn't based off of. so we got to end of vol 1, does that mean only about 5-6 volumes will be adapted? |
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Swagernator said: The over victimization of our MC is getting pretty overused pretty fast, this is 4th episode and im already sick of it. Like yeah, we got it ... everyone hates him, can we please move on onto something more interesting, please. This is pretty much spot on, I hope they move away from this cycle of humiliation and false accusations and start to build the world and characters more. If not then it's going to wear pretty thin very soon. |
Daniel_Naumov said: Crashmatt said: This is pretty much spot on, I hope they move away from this cycle of humiliation and false accusations and start to build the world and characters more. If not then it's going to wear pretty thin very soon. Did not you seen it end right here? That he is out of his "overvictimized" persona? Or did you refuse to understand that? Of course, the people behind the plot against Shield hero will not stop, as there is no point in stopping. Sorry I've not read the LN and my crystal Ball is broken. I only comment on what I see each episode, I like the series so far but it needs to move on. |
| Wlep. too bad that things did go well as Malty and her scumbag dad planned it, Raptalia stayed on in her own free will, I never thought that Bow and sword heroes would come to Naofumi's defense, So I guess Filo that big bird will appear next, I hope that Malty bitch would have her day. After , she betrays the Spear hero that is, cu'z she gonna do it. |
| While I hate that Spear Hero for his dashing personality, being cheeky in general and shabby with that pretended ideal attitude of his, that Malty is truly the worst. Way more that the Spear Hero. Her intrigues, plotting, gossiping and cheating in this important quest of four heroes chosen to save her world, show clearly what lind of a bad person she is. Poor Naofumi. I thought Raphtalia won't leave him anyway. It was good to see her not only talking to Naofumi, but screaming at the Spear Hero before it. And we finally know what is the secret behind Raphtalia's (and demi-humans in general) fast growing up. |
Prog_upworks13 said: reading the manga made me feel angry, watching the anime made me feel cringe. e x a c t l y . Though the series would probably turn out to be quite decent, I just couldn't help to feel this way |
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| If anyone cares, the after credit scene showed his last words "I love Emilia." Search your feelings, you know it to be true. loved the curse scene. Will he gain powers like it? would be neet! curse the entire kingdom. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| When that "Curse Series" thing appeared I started to think: freakin' kill someone or destroy whole place! Well, I'm dissapointed because nothing like that happened and MC hasn't go totally OP, still I enjoyed the end of episode. Wholesome. |
| Am I the only one who thinks that the spear hero is actually a good guy, he's just being brainwashed by the princess since they have arrived in this world? Ofc he's quite naive and stupid to believe all the bs she probably tells him, but he doesn't seem like a bad guy to me |
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| Raphtalia is best girl! ;) |
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-Aincrad- said: Am I the only one who thinks that the spear hero is actually a good guy, he's just being brainwashed by the princess? Well, that's it. This is what happens when you use head from your pants to think, not the one on your neck. |
| Kinema citrus did an excellent job! Love how they teased the curse series. Also next episode, it's time for FIRO |
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landofthekwt said: Exactly why are we saving this kingdom? Can't go back to Japan til the crisis is over. |
| Holy sh*t that is some crazy duel, I never expect them to fight so soon but it was pretty awesome. Even though Naofumi is weaker than Motoyasu but still beat him in 1 on 1 fight proves Naofumi is a more a experience fighter. But that dirty moves setup by the King and Malty sure got me mad. So low and so dirty makes me want to punch them both in the face. Thank god after all that Raphtalia still defend and loyal to Naofumi and that is very very touching. Next is Firo will show up and I'm very excited to see her |
RedChromeJan 30, 2019 10:54 PM
| I'm really happy to see how this episode ended, bc in the middle of it i was saying to myself ''This is fucking ridiculous'', i mean, not bc of the duel itself, but the condition imposed on that, i mean, even though Naofumi really treated her as a slave, who the fuck Motoyasu thinks he is to just ''free'' her from him? (Ok, he's one of the heroes,but a hero has the same power a King would have? Cmon) Also they forced him to accept it and even tied Raphtalia up (Wow, u guys are sooo different than a slave's master, huh?) and it gets even worse with that bitch i-don't-remember-the-name-nor-care attacking Naofumi in the middle of the 1v1 duel, and still the victory was given to Motoyasu. I'm really happy that there are decent (or not blind, at least) people like the other 2 heroes who recognized the injustice, i never got mad so hard about any ''inconvenience'' i've seen in an anime before, so the last minutes of it was a real breath of fresh air to me, also Raphtalia it's one of the most wholesome characters of this season. |
SpidleJan 30, 2019 12:16 PM
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| Some really good character development and reveals in this episode. It was nice to finally see some of the other Heroes side with Naofumi. I'm interested to see what exactly the Curse Series is, and what it means for the Shield Hero. Mod edit: removed link. |
DeadlyRavenJan 31, 2019 7:01 PM
Kougeru said: They could've stopped this at the rape accusation but they've gone overboard. He's a victim for sure, but he's got his own share of issues like not freeing Raph when he could've. Supporting the idea of slavery. Saying slaves are not people. Sorry, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because he had awful things happen to him doesn't mean he gets to do awful things but that's exactly what the author seems to think. That's why it's "overvictimization". He's guilty in enough ways to negate the pity I felt for him in episode 1. I just want to offer a perspective... from Raphtalias side. She said Naofumi only forced her to overcome her fears when it mattered. The term slave is not viewed as SLAVE from neither Naofumi or Raphtalia (even when Naofumi forces these brutal sentences down Motoyasu's throat). While you mention that Naofumi has his own share of issues, it seems as if you are insinuating some biased observation over those "issues". Did you imagine a good story when Naofumi would immediately release Raphtalia from the curse (would then keep earning money and freeing the rest of the slaves). There would be a big disconnect pretty early on and this "Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari" story would not have made it to the animation. Bare with me. Naofumi chose to free the slave who was the most helpless, kept in a cage, held in the dark. He saved her from the real repercussions followed with a real slave handler. If you think Naofumi thinks of Raphtalia as a slave, you are forgetting that he wants to protect her but he also had to keep fighting monsters. Since Raphtalia has a child mentality, the best protection is to teach her to handle herself, tough love is just a layer of protection since he can't avoid encounters with monsters. However, it also seems Naofumi finds some sort of safety from the world when he has her under the curse, he is not perfect. Did I misunderstand you or perhaps there is a chance you misunderstand Naofumi's character? |
Fade_Jul 7, 2019 6:04 AM
Swagernator said: vipergod said: Guys just friendly reminder for haters ,its episode 4 already. u can drop this series now if u don't like it, i don't expect to see hate comments from now on! Critics are always fine but comments like "omg worst show ever" "shitty writing full cliche" etc is gonna be so annoying! If people can say "BEST SHOW EVER !!!", "Raphtalia BEST GIRL !!!". Then people also can say "omg worst show ever" or "shitty writing full cliche". It works both ways. Lol. A very good way to summarize human psychology. - I like this show. Everyone should too. - I hate like this show. Everyone should too. Because if not, I will feel stupid. Meanwhile here I am just watching a show without creating a circlejerk. Ah, the neutrality. Btw I think the main problem is people usually don't expect a reasoning if you say something is good but they will very much expect a solid reason if you don't like it. |
sasalxJan 31, 2019 9:37 PM
| This is the best episode so far. I got so fucking mad that I almost punched a hole through my monitor, I hope Malty and spear bitch die painful deaths. |
| I use Arch, btw. |
| I wonder why they chose until after the battle to give Raphtalia her new outfit when in the manga, she had it before the Wave battle. |
| Ah yes...wholesome indeed. Rising of the Shield Hero, oh how you are one of the only isekais I am proud to say is one I greatly enjoy. Raphtalia, you got the MVP award this time around. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
FMmatron said: Great episode, but man, I hope they stop to overplay the victimizing soon. At least there was a glimpse of hope that things will change so that we can focus on more interesting aspects than extreme emotional manipulation. Credits scene was really cute :3 That was the mostly the last of it, now you'll get to see a bit of how irresponsible the other 2 heroes are(sword and bow), get to see the spear hero getting rekdt a few times, and introducing you to new characters, specialy ones that will make you realise that the kingdom is not an entire garbage can. |
TougenJan 30, 2019 12:44 PM
| One thing's for sure, this show does a very good job at making you furious about how horribly Naofumi is constantly treated, all because he happened to be the Shield Hero. It was good to see the Sword and Bow Heroes at least acknowledge how much of a farce that duel was and to call the King, Myne and Motoyasu out on it, but I don't imagine it will have any impact on the royals at least (I think it will on Motoyasu though, as he is at least trying to do what he considers to be the right thing but is too far up his own ass to see any other perspective). Perhaps more interesting is that Naofumi unlocked the "Curse Series" after the duel, whatever that means (at the very least, it can't be anything good). |
| I hope at some point its properly explained why the king and his excrement piece of daughter go to such extraordinary lengths to put Shield-hero down. I mean their methods, isn't like using a bulldozer to crush a walnut? |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Myne is such TRASH!!! Yo I can't wait for the Cursed Series to show up in the shield. That's going to be awesome! Raphtalia is amazing. |
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Farabeuf said: I hope at some point its properly explained why the king and his excrement piece of daughter go to such extraordinary lengths to put Shield-hero down. I mean their methods, isn't like using a bulldozer to crush a walnut? Im not sure if it will be on this season, but there is an explanation....Its more like she being a bitch to the shield hero to appease her dad and gain favour with the nobility, some of wich that hates the shield hero(plus she likes being evil, and the shield hero is the easiest target due to the whole country hatting him). It will be explained later on why. |
Tougen said: FMmatron said: Great episode, but man, I hope they stop to overplay the victimizing soon. At least there was a glimpse of hope that things will change so that we can focus on more interesting aspects than extreme emotional manipulation. Credits scene was really cute :3 That was the last of it, now you'll get to see a bit of how irresponsible the other 2 heroes are(sword and bow), get to see the spear hero getting rekdt a few times, and introducing you to new characters, specialy ones that will make you realise that the kingdom is not an entire garbage can. Yeah, this episode brought conclusion to that matter, but it will take the next arc to fully convince me. |
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Jak said: I wonder why they chose until after the battle to give Raphtalia her new outfit when in the manga, she had it before the Wave battle. She aged twice in the anime, but only once in the manga/LN. I guess they wanted to show the transition from Child -> Teenager -> Adult. |
| Finally it happened and now we know why Raphtalia is growing up. |
Tokoya said: Seeing Naofumi wreck the Spear cunt was so satisfying, but of course, that fucking bitch and her fuckboy of a father had to go and piss me the fuck off again I honestly want the entire country to fucking burn and I want that inhumane disgusting bitch of a princess to have every worse thing in the book done to her before meeting a horrible death and I don't give a fuck But I'm glad that at least the sword and bow heroes called them out on their bullshit, there might be hope for their self-righteous asses yet....Also, I'm glad that they managed to wreck the whiners from episode 1 in regards to this show supposedly "gloryfying slavery" But thank god for Raphtalia, she is truly best girl TwT YES!Let them BURN! They deserve nothing, maybe the archer and the sword hero deserve something because they were honest and maybe that blacksmith KILL THE REST |
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| It felt a bit weird with him never having heard Raphtalia when she said "I'm your sword" and stuff like that. I even thought they were in some other dimenson at some point ... cause at the end we clearly heard Raphtalia saying that she wanted to help him out of her own will ... and he still started whining. I thought the anime was switching between 2 dimensions where Raphtalia was in the normal world and the main was away because of some curse. (I think it said something about curse requirements met.) But then we saw the others watching. So everything happened in the normal world. Also the Pope doesn't really seem like he has power. He was just sitting there. I hope they are either going to overthrow the king ... or to leave the country. (Or the behavior of the king might change now that the other heroes start to acknowledge the shield hero as well.) The worst that could happen: Them staying in the country with other boring intriques against the shield hero (who is stupid enough to stay). I mean: Surely there are other countries that need help against demons and stuff. |
| Ok this eps pissed me off a bit. Dont like the adaptation one bit. Raphtalia's voice when she talked to motoyasu about the things naofumi did for her feels weird also to end her argument she's supposed to say "then where r ur slaves?" to make it more impactful. The bitch's wind power is supposed to be what caused naofumi to lose. Its supposed to be the last attack. Yet the anime added motoyasu's attacks after that making it seem as if motoyasu actually defeated naofumi. And after the other hero denies motoyasu's claim about naofumi brainwashing raphtalia, we r supposed to be shown a scene of naofumi crying in utter despair but the adapted scene did not properly convey that. The whole eps feels a bit stretched out. The pace can pick up a little. |
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