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Port_Royal_CG-73 said: Cliche. the protagonist seems to like aircraft but simply did not recognize the SAAB Gripen ... SAAB with uppercase letters was the abbreviation of the company name "Svenska Aeroplan AB" from 1927 to 1965. From 1965 the company name is the former abbreviation, and is just Saab AB. So no four uppercase letters since then. If you don't want to yell the company name. ;) BOEING!!! LOCKHEED!!! SAAB!!! :D |
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bastek66 said: Pretty shitty. So main antagonist is named Xi and hates Japan? I bet it's banned in China The two main human characters are from China. That first episode was a lot better than I anticipated going in. I'm hoping the series keeps going up. I was pleased with the lack of fan service, and that the two main characters are not related in any way other than being friends. I am also glad that they have, apparently, nipped in the bud our male protagonist suddenly being able to pilot a jet fighter ;) For the aircraft otaku out there, it looks like we have a Gripen, and Eagle and a Phantom II as the rides for our three pilots. Fixed double posting, Barnald |
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kuddlesworth said: Who is this aimed at? I find it very hard to believe anyone actually watches this shit. That is a really good question! One who can be asked about a lot of shows! :D But this one... Well, I suppose it is aimed at younger japanese boys, who likes pretty girls and fighter jets. Personally, I've would have enjoyed this show a lot, back when I was 12-14 years old. |
Teisatsu said: I know that it's actually the self defence force but i mention airforce since i thought most readers would know what i mean.Aversa said: That being said the the main character seems to be obsessed with the Japanese Airforce yet he doesn't even seem to know which aircraft they are flying. He also has lot's of images of aircraft but failed to realise the aircraft he was looking for was a Saab Gryphen, it,s not that well known aircraft but i am pretty sure that most people with an interest in jet fighters know about it it's pretty recognisable. There is no Japanese Air Force after 1945. There is only the Japan Air Self-Defense Force, founded in 1954 . Juridically that's an enormous difference. Actually the Gripen (Griffin in English) is a very well known and respected fighter aircraft among japanese military nerds. Gripen models was in almost every model store in Akihabara, whens I was there a couple of years ago, and it shows up in some web mangas and other media as well. The subtitles called the plane JAS 39 Gripen, bus "JAS" is a designation only used within the Swedish Air Force. It's an Swedish abbreviation for Jakt (fighter), Attack (air-to-ground attack) and Spaning (reconnaissance). In NATO or JASDF it logically would had been abbreviated as FAR, a different number, and logically also "Griffin". It's also the reason why i question the appearance of the Griphen with Japanese markings around an area where Mig 21 or Chengdu J7 where active in the last part of my post. And with the comment about the Griphen not being that well known i meant among average people with little knowledge about jet fighters. Most people will know what i F16 is or a Mig but unless your from Sweden or someone with knowledge about aircraft you probably won't know about the Griphen. Hence saying that most people with knowledge about jet fighters know about it. It's a very interesting and capable aircraft but it hasn't seem much actual combat use so not much chances to prove itself. Not sure about subs since i watched the Raw but the text on the mains phone said JAS 39 as well, i have always known it as the Saab Griphen tho. |
Aversa said: I know that it's actually the self defence force but i mention airforce since i thought most readers would know what i mean. It's also the reason why i question the appearance of the Griphen with Japanese markings around an area where Mig 21 or Chengdu J7 where active in the last part of my post. And with the comment about the Griphen not being that well known i meant among average people with little knowledge about jet fighters. Most people will know what i F16 is or a Mig but unless your from Sweden or someone with knowledge about aircraft you probably won't know about the Griphen. Hence saying that most people with knowledge about jet fighters know about it. It's a very interesting and capable aircraft but it hasn't seem much actual combat use so not much chances to prove itself. Not sure about subs since i watched the Raw but the text on the mains phone said JAS 39 as well, i have always known it as the Saab Griphen tho. Before I went to Japan, I also believed that the Gripen was a relative unknown fighter outside Europe. Until I got to the model shops in Akihabara. But one can never ever underestimate the japanese nerds! There was Gripen models everywhere! :) So I am not even a little bit surprised why they choose the Gripen as a main to this tv-show. A little more surprising is the other two fighters in the ED. Is'nt the F-15 Eagle and the F-4 Phantom II really old, compared to the Gripen? The Phantom II is like two generations older. Also, there is no "hen" (strange) about Gripen ;) No H in the name, I mean. :) |
TeisatsuJan 11, 2019 10:43 AM
Teisatsu said: The F4 is a highly upgradable aircraft they can be fully upgraded to a 4th generation fighter jet and it's still in service with some of the most modern armies in the world like the Japanese self defence force the Turkish airforce and the South Korean airforce.Aversa said: I know that it's actually the self defence force but i mention airforce since i thought most readers would know what i mean. It's also the reason why i question the appearance of the Griphen with Japanese markings around an area where Mig 21 or Chengdu J7 where active in the last part of my post. And with the comment about the Griphen not being that well known i meant among average people with little knowledge about jet fighters. Most people will know what i F16 is or a Mig but unless your from Sweden or someone with knowledge about aircraft you probably won't know about the Griphen. Hence saying that most people with knowledge about jet fighters know about it. It's a very interesting and capable aircraft but it hasn't seem much actual combat use so not much chances to prove itself. Not sure about subs since i watched the Raw but the text on the mains phone said JAS 39 as well, i have always known it as the Saab Griphen tho. Before I went to Japan, I also believed that the Gripen was a relative unknown fighter outside Europe. Until I got to the model shops in Akihabara. But one can never ever underestimate the japanese nerds! There was Gripen models everywhere! :) So I am not even a little bit surprised why they choose the Gripen as a main to this tv-show. A little more surprising is the other two fighters in the ED. Is'nt the F-15 Eagle and the F-4 Phantom II really old, compared to the Gripen? The Phantom II is like two generations older. Also, there is no "hen" (strange) about Gripen ;) No H in the name, I mean. :) The Americans out phased it but that had more to do with the pilots, many American pilots didn't like the aircraft. It was ahead of it's time when it was introduced in the 60's it was the first aircraft that was specifically designed to fight with rockets that locked on to there target but the rockets that could do that back then where still in their early phases and unreliable. So during the Vietnam war the aircraft earned a bad name amongst American pilots which it never lost. As mention it's still in use by the Japanese Self Defence force like the F15 so it's not such a strange choice for this anime. The Gripen seems like the strange choice in this case. |
| Ya know the F15 and the Phantom were part of the JSDAF inventory and the Jas39 ain't one of them , dang that original creator ought used to use the F16 falcon since it was part of their aircraft inventory, |
| The voice of gripen at the end catched me off guard. Defintely gonna keep watching just because of her. |
kuddlesworth said: Who is this aimed at? I find it very hard to believe anyone actually watches this shit. For who were Arpeggio and Boatsluts? Same concept just different vehicles. |
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kuddlesworth said: plane otakus i guess..Who is this aimed at? I find it very hard to believe anyone actually watches this shit. so far its boring |
| How I wish I was dropper, because this one so far isn't tickling my interest bone. But hey! Finish what you started. I don't think I will like it since it looks like one of those low key harem anime. I guess it's one of those bad choices in life, I will regret. |
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| Gripen really remind me to Zero Two from Darling in the Franxx.... |
JiangHaoyi1979 said: Ya know the F15 and the Phantom were part of the JSDAF inventory and the Jas39 ain't one of them , dang that original creator ought used to use the F16 falcon since it was part of their aircraft inventory, F-16? You mean Mitsubishi F-2. Just keep watching the show. You never know what can show up a couple of episodes in... ;) |
TeisatsuJan 12, 2019 1:48 AM
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Achaman said: kuddlesworth said: plane otakus i guess..Who is this aimed at? I find it very hard to believe anyone actually watches this shit. so far its boring It seems like many here on MAL are really underestemating the military/vehicle otaku culture in Japan. There is A LOT of people in Japan who gladly pays a lot of money to keep up with their ship and plane hobbies. The model shops are many, and their range is huge. And the plane otakus will buy the DVD/BD of this show. Sure they like their own ships and planes firstly, but they are also curious about other countries vehicles. Just look on the Finnish/German influence in Strike/Brave Witches, and the German ship in High School Fleet. When it comes to the planes of JASDF, they're almost all American, which is perceived as a bit boring for the otakus in the long run. The want something to spice it up a bit. Something exotic. Something they already know of, and admire. Hence the introduction of the, among the japanese plane otakus very well known, Swedish Saab Gripen! :) |
TeisatsuJan 12, 2019 2:39 AM
JiangHaoyi1979 said: They don't use the F16 they use the F2 which looks similar to the F16 but technology wise is a completely different aircraft.Ya know the F15 and the Phantom were part of the JSDAF inventory and the Jas39 ain't one of them , dang that original creator ought used to use the F16 falcon since it was part of their aircraft inventory, F2 are often painted blue and that's an easy way to keep them apart from F16. |
| So far it seems like the deformed unholy love child of Sentou Yousei Yukikaze and Dragonaut: The Resonance, with a lil side of The Powerpuff Girls theme going on. Also, slap an AIM-9X on those Xi, see how well they like it. Kerozinn said: enemies look like a straight up Strike Witched ripoff + there is another show that had very similar enemy types..forgot name. Probably the JAM from Sentou Yousei Yukikaze Stark700 said: First few minutes of the show immediately presents aerial combat with the aircrafts (which I think is more advanced than regular fight aircrafts in today's world WVR (within-visual-range) isn't really how most aerial combat happen today. This is "old-style" combat, more as a rule-of-cool since modern aerial fights are typically BVR (beyond-visual-range), which boring from an action scene standpoint. DonTrumpolino said: Oh look, it's Zero Two's half-sister... My take is Toa's long lost lil' sister, not in looks per se but from the vibes I'm getting, but yeah, that's accurate too. |
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Aversa said: JiangHaoyi1979 said: They don't use the F16 they use the F2 which looks similar to the F16 but technology wise is a completely different aircraft.Ya know the F15 and the Phantom were part of the JSDAF inventory and the Jas39 ain't one of them , dang that original creator ought used to use the F16 falcon since it was part of their aircraft inventory, F2 are often painted blue and that's an easy way to keep them apart from F16. Yeah I know that, but then again it was Japan's licences copy of the plane itself. |
Port_Royal_CG-73 said: Cliche. the protagonist seems to like aircraft but simply did not recognize the Saab Gripen ... And I do not understand why the PLA sent fighter aircraft J-7(Mig21) to face the enemies and I do not understand why J-7 fired missiles similar to the IRIS- T(maybe it can be a PL10 SR) then the normal IRIS-T is not able to withstand the ECM of the ZAI. Then the pink Gripen arrives he shoots the same missile only this time the missile is pink... as Zeno would say "woooow sugoi ne" lol although I do not believe that the Zai can maneuver to more than 40Gs, the enemy aircraft has ECM advanced to fool a IRIS-T (similar) so, would not it be better if the JSDF updated the missiles? Example The missile AIM 120D has a no escape zone (NEZ) of approximately 45km. Moreover the AIM-120D is capable of supporting lateral acceleration of up to 40Gs. But why am I saying all this? Because the anime theoretically follows the real world , the fighters are variations of their real analogues. What I can not understand is the reason why even the aircraft canopy is pink. The protagonist's friend is boring and acts as if it were the mother of the protagonist, she is controlling and annoying. this looks more like an harem anime cliche. I'll keep watching because I like military aircraft.  the IRIS-T is able to achieve lateral acceleration of up to approximately 60Gs  I agree, in fact the J7 ought be using the PL series of air to air Missile. which were a copy of the Russian K series of Air to air missile  |
| Trash, but hopefully fun trash. In a way, a sort of heritage can be traced back to the 2D plane girl waifus of World War II:  https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/353663/Pin-ups-on-a-Plane-how-risque-artists-inspired-our-World-War-Two-bombers Douglas Bond, a psychiatrist for the 8th Air Force in England, observed how devoted to the aircraft the men became by naming them "Miss Your Lovin", "Flamin' Mamie" and so on. In these beloved female planes, noted Bond, "mechanical failure was akin to infidelity". Planes that were thought to have minds of their own were called names like "Shedonnawanna".  Photos via http://www.madnesshub.com/2017/12/the-flying-pin-up-girls-cheeky-wwii.html |
Port_Royal_CG-73 said: Cliche. the protagonist seems to like aircraft but simply did not recognize the Saab Gripen ... And I do not understand why the PLA sent fighter aircraft J-7(Mig21) to face the enemies and I do not understand why J-7 fired missiles similar to the IRIS- T(maybe it can be a PL10 SR) then the normal IRIS-T is not able to withstand the ECM of the ZAI. Then the pink Gripen arrives he shoots the same missile only this time the missile is pink... as Zeno would say "woooow sugoi ne" lol although I do not believe that the Zai can maneuver to more than 40Gs, the enemy aircraft has ECM advanced to fool a IRIS-T (similar) so, would not it be better if the JSDF updated the missiles? Example The missile AIM 120D has a no escape zone (NEZ) of approximately 45km. Moreover the AIM-120D is capable of supporting lateral acceleration of up to 40Gs. But why am I saying all this? Because the anime theoretically follows the real world , the fighters are variations of their real analogues. What I can not understand is the reason why even the aircraft canopy is pink. The protagonist's friend is boring and acts as if it were the mother of the protagonist, she is controlling and annoying. this looks more like an harem anime cliche. I'll keep watching because I like military aircraft. the IRIS-T is able to achieve lateral acceleration of up to approximately 60Gs The reason for this is because, unlike the other aircraft anime this season (kotobiki squadron in the wilderness), Girly Airforce is less concerned with depicting aircraft realistically in a fictional environs for its own sake and more corncerned with outright nationalism. For example: https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2018/09/17/girly-air-force-teams-up-with-jasdf-in-new-key-visual In other words It's fired from a Japanese aircraft and it has "high technology" so "of course it works" Short of Konpeki no Kantai or Needless, I would actually qualify Girly Airforce as one of the more blatant examples of propaganda I've seen in anime to date. |
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Port_Royal_CG-73 said: Cliche. the protagonist seems to like aircraft but simply did not recognize the Saab Gripen ... And I do not understand why the PLA sent fighter aircraft J-7(Mig21) to face the enemies and I do not understand why J-7 fired missiles similar to the IRIS- T(maybe it can be a PL10 SR) then the normal IRIS-T is not able to withstand the ECM of the ZAI. Then the pink Gripen arrives he shoots the same missile only this time the missile is pink... as Zeno would say "woooow sugoi ne" lol although I do not believe that the Zai can maneuver to more than 40Gs, the enemy aircraft has ECM advanced to fool a IRIS-T (similar) so, would not it be better if the JSDF updated the missiles? Example The missile AIM 120D has a no escape zone (NEZ) of approximately 45km. Moreover the AIM-120D is capable of supporting lateral acceleration of up to 40Gs. But why am I saying all this? Because the anime theoretically follows the real world , the fighters are variations of their real analogues. What I can not understand is the reason why even the aircraft canopy is pink. The protagonist's friend is boring and acts as if it were the mother of the protagonist, she is controlling and annoying. this looks more like an harem anime cliche. I'll keep watching because I like military aircraft. the IRIS-T is able to achieve lateral acceleration of up to approximately 60Gs I agree, in fact the J7 ought be using the PL series of air to air Missile. which were a copy of the Russian K series of Air to air missile |
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Ryuseishun said: this is just a single-cour, right? If so, this is just another cash grab promotion for the LN. Theres a LN of this,damn,gonna have to have a looksee.Anyone know if theres an english translation please? And why can't all the goddamn 02 fans out there try not comparing this with that? For gods sake,its a bloody anime,just for enjoyment,or not if you don't like it. And for your info,I am also a 02 fan,up to a point,but I don't try and shove 02 down other peoples throats at every opportunity(yeah,yeah,have a giggle at the phrasing now). Same goes for all those plane/jsdf,etc etc buffs on this thread,its not reality(though that'd be nice),so who gives a rats ass about how accurate the planes are. Also FYI,I liked this episode,and hopefully will like the rest of the season,regardless of whether the planes are pink,grey or bloody rainbow unicorn patterned. I'm just enjoying it because I do. Btw,just in case anyone gets up on his/hers high horse about this little post,i also realise that some of you aren't being pedantic,you're just trying to provide a little technical info.Well,thats ok I guess. |
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| I mean it's not bad, sound sure is nice, I guess character design is cool and cute, but this is just not my cup of tea at all |
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| The interest in Gripen continues in Japanese media, with much focus on how cheap it is, compared to the Mitsubishi F-2: https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20190116-00010000-norimono-bus_all&p=1 |
| Not so bad, for now I guess. |
| I thought this was ok. Lucky guy getting a kiss just like that. Seems his life will get even more interesting now that he has this role with the JSDF, either he needs to help save the world. |
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| Nice animation like it. |
| So it's like Arpeggio but bad, with some dose of Gate-themed JSDF are only thing that can save the world. Also romance with planes? Not exactly thrilling combination, MC is rather irritating but will give two more episodes - maybe there will be something decent or at least entertaining. |
| I came here expecting a bad anime about girls in planes, I mean... it's called Girly Air Force... But... There wasn't enough girl, way too many guy. I don't like it. |
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| It was alright for a first episode. It's good that Kei put Minhao in her place. I understand her feelings, but she can't be that controlling. That they need him to to power up/control Gripen reminds me of Lime-iro Senkitan, only without the awkward sex scenes I guess. |
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| That was a pretty bad start. |
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| So this guy was a chinese? And then they just kissed? What an actual fuck to start a series, really like to bait people to like it, eh? Honestly, the story with the air forces and girl as its main resources not bad at all. Lets see how they handled the direction and transition over conversation. What i see here, its not bad, nor good enough. On top of that, the art design was good. The girl looks nice, especially with Minghua. But, her personality was quite irritating. Need more screen time to judge my statement here. And for the action, its good to me. Nice animations, and completely do some crazy thing with that homing missiles. Sure Xi organization had some high advance technology to setup that fighter jet. Idk. I kinda like the story so far. Just surprising how they add one Shounen to improve the show. Its abnormal when seeing something like these. |
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