| 'Cuz everybody try to be elitist shit I dunno why but most people here like dat shitting other opinions and popular mangas adaptation So just watch it if u like it and don't care about others |
kidomaro said: I rly liked it too! Don't know why they're rating it so low :(So I actually was quite fond of this episode, which then shocked me that so many people are rating it so lowly because I don't feel like this show is as bad as some of the other shows this season who have a higher score than this show. That makes me think what are people feeling about this show/are making them rate it so lowly? |
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Pnbn said: Wow...that is the most stupid and belligerent theory I've ever heard for why people dislike an episode. From what I've heard, they found the torture excessive to the point of pointlessness, apathy, and infuriation, with it feeling like the effects are unearned and that the main character is unsympathetic in this regard.'Cuz everybody try to be elitist shit I dunno why but most people here like dat shitting other opinions and popular mangas adaptation So just watch it if u like it and don't care about others Hey, it's better than saying "because elitists; fuck 'em" |
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| Probably they watched video of certain 23-years-old kid who said it's edgy and bad despite the same manchild is huge fan of Tokyo Ghoul. |
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| I didn't think it was particularly edgy yet people are screaming it is. So idk. |
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bastek66 said: w0w, you're an asshole! Also, ad hominems are for petulant children. I mean, yea, Tokyo Ghoul anime isn't that good, and even Chibi doesn't care for the anime adaptations (which are the ones that are most considered edgy), but that doesn't mean jack for shit here! Given what I've heard from friends who have seen this first episode, I'm not sure I would enjoy an episode or series that tries so much on extended suffering that borders on pointlessness and darkness induced audience apathy. I mean, have your opinion on the series, but don't be...like this.Probably they watched video of certain 23-years-old kid who said it's edgy and bad despite the same manchild is huge fan of Tokyo Ghoul. |
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ThreadFazer said: because tokyo ghoul has interesting plots, development etc..while this one is just weak, all i can see is that this anime is all edgy edgy content with no good plots and good characters. TG re has been total shit for long time and previous anime adaptations were garbage. CodeBlazeFate said: w0w, you're an asshole! Also, ad hominems are for petulant children. I mean, yea, Tokyo Ghoul anime isn't that good, and even Chibi doesn't care for the anime adaptations (which are the ones that are most considered edgy), but that doesn't mean jack for shit here! Given what I've heard from friends who have seen this first episode, I'm not sure I would enjoy an episode or series that tries so much on extended suffering that borders on pointlessness and darkness induced audience apathy. I mean, have your opinion on the series, but don't be...like this. Why? I think my theory about low score (for mal's shitaste) is pretty valid. I also don't get how can people was wortheless anime youtubers who spout bullshit or act like children. |
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bastek66 said: You don't think that maybe they checked it out to see if they agreed with his sentiments, or watched them without having watched his videos? ThreadFazer said: because tokyo ghoul has interesting plots, development etc..while this one is just weak, all i can see is that this anime is all edgy edgy content with no good plots and good characters. TG re has been total shit for long time and previous anime adaptations were garbage. CodeBlazeFate said: w0w, you're an asshole! Also, ad hominems are for petulant children. I mean, yea, Tokyo Ghoul anime isn't that good, and even Chibi doesn't care for the anime adaptations (which are the ones that are most considered edgy), but that doesn't mean jack for shit here! Given what I've heard from friends who have seen this first episode, I'm not sure I would enjoy an episode or series that tries so much on extended suffering that borders on pointlessness and darkness induced audience apathy. I mean, have your opinion on the series, but don't be...like this. Why? I think my theory about low score (for mal's shitaste) is pretty valid. I also don't get how can people was wortheless anime youtubers who spout bullshit or act like children. You don't think your toxic outlook is both farfetched and...well, toxic?! No need to touch on the shit taste aspect either since people like you are why the elitist meme/buzzword thrives to this very day! |
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ThreadFazer said: Its still better and it has more plots then this shit anime. It could have million times more plots and it's still unbearable shit now, while first episode of MHS was decent, I read manga months ago and I remember it being more enjoyable at time which can't be said about current state of the TG manga. CodeBlazeFate said: You don't think that maybe they checked it out to see if they agreed with his sentiments, or watched them without having watched his videos? You don't think your toxic outlook is both farfetched and...well, toxic?! No need to touch on the shit taste aspect either since people like you are why the elitist meme/buzzword thrives to this very day! I cannot understand why people even watch that manchild on chair. His face is annoying, his voice is infuriating, his opinions are worthless. |
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kidomaro said: That makes me think what are people feeling about this show/are making them rate it so lowly? Personally, I did find it edgy. I mean, honestly, while I understand why some people would like this, I really can't understand how people can defend this show as not being edgy, especially considering it seems to be a battle royal kind of anime. (I mean, I liked Elfen Lied when I was a teen and it's edgy af, so I dunno why people feel defensive about it.) I think the main issue with the show is that you can be edgy but you can also give some sense of normalcy to the whole context to make it, at least, somewhat believable. But this first episode didn't manage that at all. I'm now supposed to believe that this girl, for some reason, is bullied at school to the point of almost getting raped, ignored by the teachers and abused by her brother to the point of blacking out. And, on top of it, her parents don't notice a thing and there's literally not a single positive thing in her life. (I would assume that with that much abuse going on her parents would at least notice some bruises or even noises during the night, but sure). This anime might as well say she pissed off a god in a previous life and the god decided 'screw you in specific' because that's what it feels like. This is the anime version of the movie Precious, abusing the main character to the point of torture so that they can easily and lazily pull at the heartstrings of audiences who will now root for her not because of her personality or traits but because they are sorry for her and can't wait for the moment she murders all of those bastards. Call me elitist if you want, but that's a cheap tactics, that's so narratively lazy it pisses me off. They even went with the 'kill the pet' trope, which brings a new layer of cheapness to it all. Subtlety comes a long way, you don't need to hit your audience with a brick every 5 seconds to get the point across. But subtlety also requires effort and work which I'm sure the author wasn't willing to put into their work. At any rate, this is my impression of the first episode, it may get better and I can be proven completely wrong in the future for assuming this show is simply edgy and lazy af, but seeing as even characters cry and spit blood when they are transformed for no reason (explanation pending) and how everything is so black and red and bleak, somehow, I'm not holding my breath. |
| Those bullying tropes do happen in real life... but all these things happening to just one person? Gave me the impression that author or authors are trying too hard... This show is one of the easiest drops of the season, and dropped. |
| They found it to be trying too hard to elicit sympathy using trite tropes of emotional manipulation? Which to define emotional manipulation beyond its buzzword appeal, is using natural cues that makes one tear up without a narrative reason to effectively care. Which to me, is manipulative because it is exploitative; it utilize our nature against us. Which is cute females and adorable kittens being persecuted in the cruelest manner possible, without giving us so much as a name or a real "reason". Which is me explaining their possible reasoning, rather than mine. I will continue watching. I enjoyed the source material enough. Found it better than the boring Goblin Slayer. |
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| It wasn't good. Everything screams average so far. The characters are not particularly interesting. Especially considering the fact that she let's herself get bullied like that. I think any rational person would have reported this to authorities. Her parents would have know she was getting abused by her brother because of the screaming in her bedroom. She would also have wounds from being beaten up on top of that. That's my major problem. I know at the end of the day, this is a magical girl show. However, the bullying is so unrealistic and far fetched that it's so hard to sympathize with anyone in this show. On top of that, the animation is so average and they're stills everywhere. I'm not gonna drop it yet because I hope it get's better. |
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| I really want to check this out to get this shit out of the way. Heard it's Ousama Game levels of bad. |
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| I think it's because it seems like the epitome of "Damn, that's EDGY!!" In the course of 23 minutes we witness the main character get bullied to absurdly over the top levels (with her teacher not even caring), mercilessly beaten by her older brother, almost raped by an upperclassman, had her cat brutally murdered, and contemplated suicide because the entire world shits on her 24/7 for no reason. And this is all just in the first episode. It's ridiculous and gross and depressing. Dark stories are fine and all but this feels like they saw Magical Girl Raising Project and were like "We can go even EDGIER." Hell, the bullies literally fill her shoe locker with razor blades and thumbtacks. That's how EDGY the show is. Twisterboy said: Especially considering the fact that she let's herself get bullied like that. I think any rational person would have reported this to authorities. Come on, now, let's not resort to victim blaming here. Most people who are bullied or abused don't report it because they are scared of what might happen if they do or if anyone will even believe them. Not to mention the character in question here is a middle schooler. This doesn't change the fact that, in the context of the show, the amount of bullying and abuse she's receiving from the other characters seems absurdly over the top, though. |
itsTomokocchiApr 9, 2018 11:46 AM
| I really love episode 1. Idk so much people rate a 1. Maybe they cannot read a synopsis or genre tag, thinking this is a fucking Cute Girls Doing Cute Things. Meanwhile, a comedy series (Mahou Shoujo Ore) thats not even funny(imo) get so much good feedback. |
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CodeBlazeFate said: Pnbn said: Wow...that is the most stupid and belligerent theory I've ever heard for why people dislike an episode. From what I've heard, they found the torture excessive to the point of pointlessness, apathy, and infuriation, with it feeling like the effects are unearned and that the main character is unsympathetic in this regard.'Cuz everybody try to be elitist shit I dunno why but most people here like dat shitting other opinions and popular mangas adaptation So just watch it if u like it and don't care about others Hey, it's better than saying "because elitists; fuck 'em" You know, there's no anime deserve 1 or 2 out of 10, except little animes that really don't have something to do with anime industry, but if someone gave an anime 2 out of 10 from the first episode I think he has a problem, he just want someone learn him how to enjoy watching entertainment programs. |
| Let's see here... Extremely edgy ✓ Killing off characters we barely know for basically no reason ✓ Adding bullying to the story without an apparent reason and using it all the time ✓ "Comedy" (can I even call it that?) falls flat ✓ Barely any consistency ✓ Disgusting scenes (like the desk part] ✓ I could go on, but I'll stop here. Oh, and Ousama Game was better, that's how bad it was. |
EriconatorApr 10, 2018 12:59 PM
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Pnbn said: That is hardly the case at all. Things that fuck up so hard they serve as "this is what to not do" in most or all aspects, or just care so little that what they "come up with" don't deserve the title of art in any aspect, deserve such scores. Some anime really are thst low tbh, and while it is extreme, some display that lowness within just 22 minutes. Reasonable people don't spam this score, so it has to mean the worst to that reasonable person for him to give it a 1 or even a 2 if it isn't quite worthless and atrocious to be considered an absolute offense in al or enough regards or to enough of a degree to warrant the bottom label.CodeBlazeFate said: Wow...that is the most stupid and belligerent theory I've ever heard for why people dislike an episode. From what I've heard, they found the torture excessive to the point of pointlessness, apathy, and infuriation, with it feeling like the effects are unearned and that the main character is unsympathetic in this regard. Hey, it's better than saying "because elitists; fuck 'em" You know, there's no anime deserve 1 or 2 out of 10, except little animes that really don't have something to do with anime industry, but if someone gave an anime 2 out of 10 from the first episode I think he has a problem, he just want someone learn him how to enjoy watching entertainment programs. |
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| Remember the word "cool" back in the 90's and 0X's? Remember seeing badasses like Auron, Guts, and DOOM guy, and shows like Elfen Lied? "Wow, those guys are so cool.", we would say. This was a good thing, we wanted to play those games and watch those shows. That's not how it works anymore. You see, the next generation of children took the word "cool" and swapped it with their re-defined "edgy". They have decided that it's no longer a good thing to have a dark, violent character or series. Instead, this is now "edgy" and not to be liked, and the other kids conformed to that view. So now, when we get a series that would have been called "cool" 10-20 years ago, it is downvoted into oblivion. tl;dr who cares what the kids think, just watch it and enjoy it. |
ex_necrossApr 9, 2018 1:22 PM
| I could see several reasons to not like the show. - Overly graphic bullying - Attempted rape - Suicidal thoughts - Implied murder of animals - General dark tone Some people are just not into that when watching anime. Nothing to do with the distaste for everything "edgy" (If only people wouldn't have butchered the meaning to the point of it meaning nothing and everything) or bandwagoning on other people's opinions. Scores are just that, representations of opinions. At the end of the day, who really cares about scores? As long as your job isn't tied to some arbitrary number on meta-critic, it shouldn't really matter. And no, just because you believe that a show deserved better doesn't mean it actually does. |
InicharuApr 9, 2018 1:42 PM
| I'd have to assume it's fans of Madoka Magica downvoting any show that dares to compete with Madoka Magica as the "Edgy Magical Girl Anime". It's a shame too because whilst I personally found Madoka Magica to be a pretty all around bad anime that was insanely overhyped purely because of how "edgy" it was; I actually fairly enjoyed the Mahou Shoujo Site manga. It's nothing amazing, but I'd have to imagine the anime once complete would certainly be deserving of at least a 7 or an 8 if most people were to be honest in their viewing experience. I was actually kind of surprised they didn't tone things down at all from the manga; might be a good sign for the anime adaptation. |
SgtScyther said: I think it's because it seems like the epitome of "Damn, that's EDGY!!" In the course of 23 minutes we witness the main character get bullied to absurdly over the top levels (with her teacher not even caring), mercilessly beaten by her older brother, almost raped by an upperclassman, had her cat brutally murdered, and contemplated suicide because the entire world shits on her 24/7 for no reason. And this is all just in the first episode. It's ridiculous and gross and depressing. Dark stories are fine and all but this feels like they saw Magical Girl Raising Project and were like "We can go even EDGIER." Hell, the bullies literally fill her shoe locker with razor blades and thumbtacks. That's how EDGY the show is. Twisterboy said: Especially considering the fact that she let's herself get bullied like that. I think any rational person would have reported this to authorities. Come on, now, let's not resort to victim blaming here. Most people who are bullied or abused don't report it because they are scared of what might happen if they do or if anyone will even believe them. Not to mention the character in question here is a middle schooler. This doesn't change the fact that, in the context of the show, the amount of bullying and abuse she's receiving from the other characters seems absurdly over the top, though. Was in the same situation when I was a kid (except I didn't get raped, but the physical abuse is spot on). I agree that bullying never gets reported as I never did too. This anime is probably only for depressed people or people who generally likes dark themes. For me I rate it 10/10 since I like animes that reminds me of my childhood. It hurts but I like it, masochistic tendencies lmao |
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Yorkfire said: "Killing off characters we barely know for basically no reason ✓" Duuude the guy was going to rape her and the girl assited in both finding her, bullying her and killing the cat. Are you serious?! Please tell me that was of frustration and not a serious statement. Ikr why would you even want to know those girls and the guy, I was even expecting all of them to die in this episode. They are not that important imo, I'm more curious about "the magical girl life" itself instead of revenge-drama stuff. Thankfully I don't take MAL scores serious |
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ThreadFazer said: Tokyo Ghoul is eh. I haven't read the manga, but I'm pretty sure it's not that good even if the anime cut a ton of content from the manga. I personally believe if the anime have a main core issue, then I'm sure it can carry over to the manga. bastek66 said: because tokyo ghoul has interesting plots, development etc..while this one is just weak, all i can see is that this anime is all edgy edgy content with no good plots and good characters.Probably they watched video of certain 23-years-old kid who said it's edgy and bad despite the same manchild is huge fan of Tokyo Ghoul. |
| I'll give people about 3-5 episodes until they change their minds that it's a "lololol it's a 1/10 because it's edgy and over the top violent." Tbh, I would never have defend this anime, since the manga was meh but very fun, however I can't believe I might defend it if I keep seeing stupid buzzwords. |
| Its just a bad adaptation, i think the manga is far more enjoyable. It is edgy, but i like it personally i don't see it being too big of a problem. P.S: my english sucks. |
| i don't understand either. for me it was awesome. i find it hard to enjoy animes at all, but i enjoyed this one. most animes bore me after 10 minutes of watching. this one didn't. |
UkuleleSkye said: It felt like the writers decided to make it so this girl had the worst life possible. . That's actually the intention. I liked it because they almost nailed it. I could have added more torture and psychological bullying tho. She's supposed to have the worst life you can imagine and grow her character from there with the help of the magical powers. |
bastek66 said: Probably they watched video of certain 23-years-old kid who said it's edgy and bad despite the same manchild is huge fan of Tokyo Ghoul. Obvious ChibiReviews reference Is Obvious. Even though I thought he had liked it so I don't think he is the reason. Also he has said tons of times that he mostly likes the manga of TG not the Anime which is the Most edgy version. |
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| The basic problem the first episode has is that it's just over the top. The basic premise of "girl has the most horrible life imaginable, which triggers stuff" is fine, but it just lingers way too long on showing the horrible life, well past the place where most viewers will be thinking "OK, I get it". Also, it piles so much on her it starts to feel unrealistic, and yet it doesn't offer viewers any other way into taking it seriously other than equating what it shows with reality. (By contrast, Elfen Lied, which has been mentioned a couple of times, gets away with being over the top because it explicitly presents itself in a fable-like way. One of the things that Latin music does is to immediately set it in a world of symbolism instead of reflections of reality.) |
Ericonator said: Let's see here... Extremely edgy ✓ Killing off characters we barely know for basically no reason ✓ Adding bullying to the story without an apparent reason and using it all the time ✓ "Comedy" (can I even call it that?) falls flat ✓ Barely any consistency ✓ Disgusting scenes (like the desk part] ✓ I could go on, but I'll stop here. Oh, and Ousama Game was better, that's how bad it was. Are you for real? Why should anyone watch a show mindlessly without applying the most basic of critical thinking? -Define what edgy means, please. -For basically no reason? Did you even watch the episode or you just hopped on the bad reviews train without knowing anything? The dude was about to rape her. And, well, the other girl was the MC's tormentor for who knows how long... And she didn't actually thought that with her magical pistol she would have straight up murdered them, but maybe put HER out of the situation. -Again, bullying for no reason? And why do you think kids in real life bully? Do you really think there's a motive behind bullying? The girl was seen as weak by the other three girls, and maybe they even know she has a bad family situation, and so has no functional family backing her up. Plus she's very shy and submissive. There you go. -Where was it? Where have you seen comedy? Are you trying to find scapegoats now? -Consistency lacks? It tells a story from start to finish, you may not like it, but where does it lack consistency? -Disgusting scenes, maybe. If you can't handle, it's on you. Are you a troll? |
| Holy shit i just watched first ep it was so edgy. I loved it really hard though i can't see why people would hate on this so hard. Maybe people don't like violence/bullying here on MAL |
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NostalgiaDrive94 said: I may have gone a bit overboard but it's the worst first episode to an anime I've ever seen.Ericonator said: Let's see here... Extremely edgy ✓ Killing off characters we barely know for basically no reason ✓ Adding bullying to the story without an apparent reason and using it all the time ✓ "Comedy" (can I even call it that?) falls flat ✓ Barely any consistency ✓ Disgusting scenes (like the desk part] ✓ I could go on, but I'll stop here. Oh, and Ousama Game was better, that's how bad it was. Are you for real? Why should anyone watch a show mindlessly without applying the most basic of critical thinking? -Define what edgy means, please. -For basically no reason? Did you even watch the episode or you just hopped on the bad reviews train without knowing anything? The dude was about to rape her. And, well, the other girl was the MC's tormentor for who knows how long... And she didn't actually thought that with her magical pistol she would have straight up murdered them, but maybe put HER out of the situation. -Again, bullying for no reason? And why do you think kids in real life bully? Do you really think there's a motive behind bullying? The girl was seen as weak by the other three girls, and maybe they even know she has a bad family situation, and so has no functional family backing her up. Plus she's very shy and submissive. There you go. -Where was it? Where have you seen comedy? Are you trying to find scapegoats now? -Consistency lacks? It tells a story from start to finish, you may not like it, but where does it lack consistency? -Disgusting scenes, maybe. If you can't handle, it's on you. Are you a troll? This whole show is trying to make you pity the girl even though you've barely seen her, if that isn't cheap tactics then I don't know what is. And funny you should mention critical thinking, since I'd think you'd be othe one lacking that if you can't see how appaling that episode was. |
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