Subete ga F ni Naru: The Perfect Insider Episode 8 Discussion

trippykitty94 said:
Honestly, I wouldn't consider this a successful show at all if something a bunch of people suspected from Episode 3 didn't occur to a 'genius' until Episode 8.

trippykitty94 said:
'F' could also stand for 'family' or 'familial'.

trippykitty94 said:
I'm going to be so disappointed if the child theory is true because I know a lot of people including myself thought this was the case from very early on.

I mean, even without the help of the flashbacks, it's a viable theory.

- Dr Magata was not alone in the room - obvious, as the corpse in the wedding dress would not have been able to sever both arms herself.
- If no one entered the room for fifteen years, they must have already been there from the beginning.
- Assuming the room was inspected prior to Dr Magata moving in (for health and safety reasons presumably), eliminating the chance that the second person entered prior to her, if they didn't enter at the same point in which she did, they must have been born there.
- And if Dr Magata was the only person in there, they must have been her mother.

As Sherlock Holmes says - when you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Even without any evidence or implication that she was sexually active, Sohei and Moe should have at least considered the fact that, as a young woman, Magata could have been pregnant when she entered the facility.

'F' could also stand for 'family' or 'familial'.

Honestly, I wouldn't consider this a successful show at all if something a bunch of people suspected from Episode 3 didn't occur to a 'genius' until Episode 8.

4kicks said:
Oh shit, I think I get it now, the moment the prof said "That wasn't Magata Shiki you saw" and the definitely different more mature voice of her in the end. Through the computer monitor and software Magata Shiki developed, anyone could have impersonated her...or make it seem like it was someone else entirely that was her the whole time. Shiki apparently knew full well that she and her uncle would be killed in the future for whatever reason, yet she still went through with it to achieve her goal of a perfect environment, perhaps sleeping with her uncle as a mere stepping stone to do it. But here's a thought; what if the murdered girl, and the girl displayed on the monitor, was in fact Shiki when she was younger, and Shiki's younger sister Miki respectively? Time apparently stopped for her, "Miki" said in English. But is that true? I think it would make a little more sense if the the body in the wedding dress was in fact Shiki's latest murder victim, her younger sister Miki. That would explain her apparent youth, and how her appearance matched the young girl on the monitor which could have been faked through her program. Moe said Shiki and Miki were very different, but she only knows her voice and appearance through the monitor.

Then there's that theory floating around that Shiki may have had a daughter...a 15 year old daughter that would have been similar in age to her when she secluded herself, never before appearing in front of anyone else again until now. a possible daughter would explain a lot, but more questions arise. Shiki had the guards order everything, but what of daily necessities a baby would need? It's be really strange to not see that in the records (although could have been rewritten) the guards would have definitely still taken notice at the abnormal amount of diapers, milk, and baby clothes. Also, if it was her daughter that was murdered, as well as the girl on the monitor...how did the real Shiki escape? With all those new questions, this theory is the least likely on my list. But then again, the imagery could be interpreted as metaphorical, which would support this theory. The girl without arms also wouldn't be able to be identified without the arms (no fingerprints). Perhaps Michiru is the daughter's name? Not totally mnid-blown, but more like mini fireworks are going off in my head.

But now here's another outlandish theory to throw out there...as to the "perfect insider". Instead of a daughter, or Miki and Shiki switching places...what if Shiki switched places with that lab girl in the school swimsuit that has the hots for the prof? The gesture of her holding Moe's face, was just like the way Miki described her. Again, during those 15 years, Shiki was in the middle of puberty, and could impersonate anyone through the monitors that even a man could theoretically do it, so it wouldn't be entirely impossible for her to have a different appearance. But then again, she would have had to find someone who looked like her in the past, so much her family wouldn't be able to tell it was her after her death. Well, I did say it was an outlandish theory after all.

But that's those in the end, those are just theories until we reach the truth. I can't wait to see next week's episode now.

What a bizarre train of thought the prof has though. Freaking emu? Or were the ostriches? Either way, weird as fuck.

Man, I love mysteries like these that make me think rather than shows tha just give you the answer.

Mich666 said:

What bothers me though is that if it was really Michiru (Shiki's daughter) who talked to Moe before, she said this:
"My parents died when I was fourteen. A doll did it. I saw it happen."
There is no way this would make sense if Michiru said this.

Of course, she could lie and impersonate older Magata because she was doing that since her twelve birthday whe she started giving interviews, yes, but somehow I don't believe she would actually lie.

aikaflip said:
The apology scene during the sunrise was lovely.

I wonder what revelation Souhei derived from his cigarette.


(nice animation, by the way)