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ixarising said: They didn't make the TSF to be compatible to certain %, they intended to make it compatible to all but not everyone has the amplitude to pilot the TSF, just like there are some people who can't ride roller coasters, planes etc. There are just people who can't get the required amplitude for that and are placed as infantries or other post instead. But mentally unstable 15 year old girls do have the "amplitude"? Riding a roller coast or in an aircraft is a terrible comparison: those are passive activities where you have no input at all. In the military, people are selected for advanced training. And yet somehow it's just a bunch of kids that manage to meet selection criteria to operate these machines. I'm fairly sure you could find more suitable candidates within a standing military force that will have the "amplitude" to operate these machines. Especially one that has been at constant war for quite some time. I get what you're saying though. It is understandable that the equipment would have a steep learning curve and due to time and resource constraints: only those who truly excel in what would be a huge variety of aptitudes would be selected to undergo training. My issue is that there is no way in hell kids would realistically even be considered for selection. Many other people who like this show clearly don't mind. Its my personal thoughts and feelings on the matter. I doubt there is any explanation you can give regarding this universe that would make me say "oooh okay, that makes sense - I can totally see why they would put children in charge of the world's most powerful weapons to head the fight against an impossible enemy where losing just a single battle could be such a significant strategic loss that it means total annihilation" Dab1za9 said: you realize the series is originally an Eroge targeted for +18 ? they sure are not targeting children lol No, I don't realise that. And I don't care. It's irrelevant what it was 'originally' targeted for. All I was saying is that by using all these irritating childish characters they appeal to a younger/less mature target audience. |
GrunkalunkaJan 17, 2016 9:07 AM
| The aliens remind me of All You Need is Kill and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (the faces). I understand why every war setting has to have the one crazy, lunatic type soldier but... man this one is particularly fucking annoying. I hope they die the worst death imaginable. A person suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder still serving in an elite group... they didn't even have the resources to train more soldiers to use something that looks like they only have a limited supply of... Overall episode was pretty meh... standard 6/10. |
duderusJan 17, 2016 11:29 AM
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ixarising said: You think they have the time to be considering that issue when most of their regular soldiers are gone? During the initial battle with the BETA, almost all of the world's regular army bar USA got trimmed down to almost nothing, that's why you're seeing more females than males here because the number of males already dropped to 1/3 of its original number. They're running out of humans faster than humans being born in a single day, just a few years ahead of now humanity will simply have around 1 billion population only. And the 2nd reason why they had to use child soldier is because most of the regular soldiers can't adapt well to the TSF which created the "8 minutes of death" which became an average time limit a TSF pilot survive against the BETA in a battle. They had to train TSF Eishi from the scratch, not an option with regular soldiers since they have to be on the frontlines. And you can clearly see in Total Eclipse's first 2 episodes, even experienced pilot/Eishi can't survive the battlefield easily, that's how deprived the world is of Eishi to pilot TSF. They don't have to confident to even have the thoughts that they're female or they're children, they'll draft anyone so long as they can be used. Nope. Still not a valid explanation for me. Yes I do think they would be considering that issue seeing as how damn important it is. I think they would be considering it very damn carefully. I don't have a problem with an operator being female. Militaries don't simply draft anyone to operate a high performance multi role death bringing machine. No matter how desperate they are. They would draft people into the regular posts and pull the experienced soldiers off those posts to train. |
| There's a serious lack of solider hair length/style regulations in military-themed anime. |
ixarising said: First off, you think they didn't do what you said? They did what you said and they didn't get any proper results, nearly all of the regular soldiers didn't survived more than 10 minutes. And to make things worst aerial support is nullify due to the appearance of the laser class, they need Eishi fast so they lower the drafting age. If they did that, then that it's just another reason for me to dislike this anime. Because in reality you would have a vastly higher success rate by recruiting already trained, experienced soldiers into an advanced weapons program than you would drafting/accepting pre-pubescent volunteers into said program. You are only making it worse. So all these soldiers only survive 10 minutes but little girls can dominate? ixarising said: Second, Katia volunteered to join the army, they didn't draft her but they don't have the reason or leniency to reject her either. They're fighting a war for survival out there which they are clearly losing, they don't have the time to blablabla. Yep. And what's your point here? it still makes no sense to accept a little girl into the armed forces and put her into this advanced weapons system. Realistically she would be put into a cadet training program or logistics, operations or something like that. If they were really desperate put her straight into combat training and onto the front line but even that would be ridiculous. ixarising said: Third, this isn't our world history, it's a parallel world history, in this world, US didn't drop the nuclear bomb to Japan they dropped it to Germany. Uhh. Okay. So? I don't see what that has to do with it. |
| It's alright. This kind of show isn't my cup of tea but I'm willing to watch for Suzuken. I'm super impressed with his voice acting. I barely recognize him in some places. He kinda sounds like Masa, but not really. 3/5 mirana said: He does! LOL And yes, he seems really interesting so far.Main guy Theodor seems to have lots of personality problems but he seems cool. He looks a whole lot like Lindo from Dance with Devils for some reason... Anyway, I like him. If they can make him grow up as a person and companion later if would be fucking great. Also voiced by Suzumura Kenichi so that's one huge extra point. |
gophercg said: Why would UN request help from East if they're enemies? And in flashback it seems bro & sis were captured by the same army, then how did sister end up in West? Would be nice to have TN explaining the German or muvluv verse specific things. They're both there to stop the beta. The whole defense strategy depends on tsf pilots taking out laser class and they need as many as they can get. And katia isn't his sister. |
gophercg said: The last Strafe scene & the team's dialogue made it seem like East & West shouldn't even talk to each other. They shouldn't but the humanity is on the brink of getting wiped out. Its no different than if aliens landed in our real world now and Russia and USA were forced to work together against them. |
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| So I watched Ep.1 on Crunchyroll last night. I've seen a few episodes of Muv-Luv, ep.1-4 of Season 1, and Ep.1-4 of Season 2 (in English). The fact that the characters live in a fictional future where East Germany still exists piqued my interest (I have a Masters in German Studies), but I was quickly annoyed by the wildly inaccurate uniforms that bore scant resemblance to Volksarmee uniforms...the helmets were wrong for GDR troops, and no GDR "mech" would have an Iron Cross painted on it, only Bundeswehr (West German) units would do that. The GDR had its own symbols for aircraft, etc., none of which were present in this anime. Also, a Stasi informer walking around with an ornate Christian cross around her neck would soon be a Stasi prisoner; the MfS would not look kindly on that at all. Also, West Germans were not completely ignorant of the nature of the GDR state and what life was like "over there"; many had extended families on both sides of the divide, many knew people who fled the GDR and started new lives in the BRD. It felt like the art director did only the bare minimum of research on the GDR and its military, and that East Germany was selected as a location for the story because it was "exotic" and "cool" and a very militarized and totalitarian state. As I watched, I imagined what a German ADR script might sound like; I'd read the subtitles, translate it quickly in my head, and say the line in German out loud, to amuse myself. I wonder if Sentai Filmworks will pick this up for an English dub or simply license it sub-only. I'd love it if they try to give the main characters believable German accents, but Sentai usually shys away from doing very much accent work in their dub productions. Tiffany Grant would nail it; everyone else...? Anyway, I may keep watching it on Crunchyroll as more episodes get released. Hoping the art direction gets better and they work on better accuracy with respect to what Volksarmee uniforms and units would actually look like. |
frenze12 said: I expected this not being everyones thing but wow i never expected it having a rating even lower than the tragedy that was (and still continues) Asterick wars. Do series with R 17-18 get that much harsher critism or do people just prefer the average generic harem/romance/ecchi/shounen/zero plot theme alot more? That's just MAL goldfishes. Only "hyped" things or completely generic things get decent ratings. This has a realistic tone, darker and more violent atmosphere and a complex lore. AN average MAL member would obviously be "confused"(and "confused" in MAL means the user will just label something shit instead of trying to think). After all, there have been people who thought "Stasi" is not something based on real world, making fun of the writers for "naming a group such a silly way" |
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| I thought those aliens looked familiar. When I started the episode I was going..."Wait, haven't I seen this before?" So we have a sort of prequel on our hands I guess. |
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| Will those cute Heavy Laser class BETA appear? Find out next week, me! |
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| Not sure how I feel about this. Didn't really find a single character that I really liked lol. Will give this one more episode I guess. |
"I am the bone of my sword, Steel is my body and Fire is my blood, I have created over a thousand blades, Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life, Have withstood pain to create many weapons, Yet, those hands will never hold anything, So as I pray, unlimited blade works" |
spudnick2010 said: Not sure how I feel about this. Didn't really find a single character that I really liked lol. Will give this one more episode I guess. Ep 2 and 3 is where REAL SHIT starts esp Ep 3 was EPIC. |
| Wtf, why get someone mentally ill to be part of your squad? Like wtf, elsewhere this episode was rather weird and boring. It should get better soon, some said it is after all. |
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| Very Exciting First episode! one thing for sure, it sure got me. Bloody, War, Military, Shooting, Really something that i needed now after been watching to much loveydovey anime xD More character than i expected, as someone else said as well. i agree on that, kind of thought is gonna be less characters. Story so far is quite impressive. And to Be real here! The damn Ugly assfucking B.E.T.A aliens looks worse than the Ugly ass Titans in AOT xD oh my days |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
| Long time ago since i've watched a mecha anime, but so far I like it. It's a pretty dark anime with the cold war, german stasi etc. A lot of characters got introduced, so it's a little bit hard to filter all the important infomations about them. But now we know why Theodor don't trust anyone. I hope Katia will do well. She will definitely not have a easy time, that's for sure. Can't wait to see how this will develope. The ED is also nice. |
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| you know you'd think countries would at least have a cease fire in the middle of a man eating alien invasion. |
| LAWD! DEM OPPAI'S! Why did it have to strike Inghild in the oppai? Protect Lise? Who's going to protect him? She said Schwarzesmarken. Roll credits! Is this girl right in the head to be blurting out that she's from the West in public? Plus, she won't shut the fock up. Ok episode. Much rather Muv Luv, but I'll continue. ED song is good. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| Just finished watch this first ep, it feels like watching starship troopers. Good action & lots of bloodbath, it just the pacing was too fast -_- On to the next eps.. |
| What did You expect? life sucks from the get go.... |
| After watching for twenty-four minutes what I got was a man who helped a woman trapped inside a robot. |
| Back to the world where the Cold War never ended, and the commies were over the top evil. Lol The animation is much better than Total Eclipse. |
| Nice action sequences OST is cool Death from the start, that was brutal. |
| Based Certified. I love anime armpits. |
| having never seen, read, or played anything else related to this, i rather liked it. pretty srs bzns goin on. this is one of those shows that begs to be watched in its in-universe dub language (German) with English subtitles. that's what i'm doing and it's pretty neat. |
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