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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The girl is not in good health, and likes sketching, but not used to talking because she hides herself from talking about the truth that hurts people. The host parents in the countryside are so nice to her. It seems like she's seeing bit by bit of Marnie's memories while "meeting" her and spending time with her. Marnie's diary seems to be the proof, and that girl who currently lives in that mansion became her friend because she helped searching about her. That painter lady was the real friend of Marnie's who knows what happened to her after that, which was sad. Wow @ what the aunt delivered. That tanabata with the light... sounds like Halloween with getting the candle light. |
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| Saw the film twice in theatres and bought the film manga. The bluray is shipping to me now. I really loved the film, as you can tell. It's a huge departure for Ghibli, compared to their other works, but I found it to be an atmospheric wonder. I also went to a Omoide no Marnie exhibit, which was amazing. If you can imagine, they had made lifesize versions of Marnie's room and the entrance to their house on the water. Incredible experience. I wish I could go again. I hope everyone enjoys the film! |
| Have to say that I really enjoyed this movie, I really find it easy to relate to how to Anna's character before she met Marnie. To hate oneself, knowing our fault and wanting change to happen but yet not actually wanting to put any effort in order for that change to actually happen. It really was quite the splendid anime. To come to conclusions without actually getting to know it, it was just a really powerful, yet simple theme to actually get to know a person before judging their character. Like how Anna said she hated her parents and grandmother for leaving her, but after knowing Marnie, she really understood that many things actually don't matter and things are much more simpler in how a person cares for another. Seeing Anna and Marnie together was really enjoyable, it really reminded me of other Ghibli films too, such as when they were hiding was like a Spirited Away scene and the closeup on Anna when she was going to the silo reminded of the closeup done on how Howl's eyes moved. This was quite the emotional ride for me by the end. The events after that for Marnie and seeing Anna really change from there afterwards. Calling her foster parents as actual parents. To be able to be herself without holding back and be able to smile, like her wish actually came true in a way. After all, it all started after the festival. The normal life she has now, it is definitely a great one. The moments where Anna or Marnie disappears were pretty cool too in a way. Have to say that the other cast were great too. Anna's auntie and uncle, with how her aunt defended Anna as the other mother was quite quickly to judge. The two were just quite carefree and always filled with smiles. Sayaka being connected to Anna through their curiosity for Marnie and as they discover more about the past too. Well anyways, this was quite the movie. I have to say that I forgot about this director lol. Now for the rating... |
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| As much of an introvert Anna was at first, she was also kinda rude and a bit too blatant about her thoughts. But she understood that and hated herself because of it too. Considering her circumstances and how she felt about her surroundings, I guess it's understandable. Marnie and Anna's interactions were really nice. It's amazing the way they developed a harmonious relationship in such a short period of time. I especially loved the family talk from both of their time and perspective and how they were supportive towards each other. Excellent depiction of sincerity. The supporting characters were great as well, particularly Hisako. As Marnie's childhood friend, she tied up all loose ends by narrating the story. Although I figured Marnie was directly related to Anna, her character clarified everything with utmost fineness. Sayaka was a nice person herself too. Going by her twintail and glasses, my first impression about her was kinda negative. But she proved to be very friendly and someone Anna got along without any problem, unlike Nobuko the fat pig. The animation and soundtracks were superb. The village sceneries, the huge lake, the mansion and nearly everything were excellently animated. The usage of soundtracks in each scenes were masterfully done as well. Based Ghibli. |
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| I didnt think I would enjoy this but damn, that was pretty good. Hopefully this isnt the last film Ghibli makes. |
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| I really enjoyed this film. It was beautifully animated and told a sweet story that I really empathized with. My only real critique is the vagueness to what Marnie really was. She referred to Anna as Kazuhiro several times and wrote about dancing with a flower girl in her journal. So was it some kind of time travel or a figment of her repressed memories of her grandma's stories? |
FierceAlchemist said: So was it some kind of time travel or a figment of her repressed memories of her grandma's stories? I wish it was the first (time travel) but I think it were just lost memories of grandma's stories. Either way it still was amazing movie :-) |
mozgowMar 22, 2015 10:13 PM
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| Are the people watching it now not watching with subs/don't know Japanese? There is no time travel hahaha |
| ^ The subbbed version (probably the official subs) got released yesterday, so that cannot be it. I'm watching it right now. EDIT: Finished it. Well, I'm not sure entirely what to think of the movie. I liked it quite a bit, but I still need to sort out my thoughts to decide whether to give it a (strong) 7 or 8. In any case, I felt it was fitting for this to be Ghibli's parting movie (assuming they don't make more movies). Oh, fuck it, 8/10 it is! When Ghibli Was There |
metamorphiusMar 22, 2015 9:06 PM
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| I watched the movie yesterday, after seeing all the praise and hype. While I thought the art and animation were awesome and unparalleled, I am sort of failing to see the greatness of the film. :::Spoilers ::: Mostly because….I dont get what the message or themes of this movie are. Granted, I think its wayyyy more likable and comprehensible than Kaze Tachninu (Miyazakis big F U to his fans), but still….what was this movie even about? It was charming, nice looking, well acted, but overall just feels like a weird movie about a girl fantasizing about her grandmother*s ghost, and then mysteriously becoming a happy and open person at the end of it. WHY? WHY ARE YOU OKAY NOW?! Lol am I alone in this? On what planet does a person resolve all of their personal tensions and grievances by engaging with the ghost of their dead grandma (which is generally considered improbably in real life). She did not even bother to give an explanation of what she learned or what shes going to try and do with her life now. She paints in color now! Yay! IMO the backstory of Marnie and co. was pretty terrible, broken family type stuff. Maybe someone in the movie should have acknowledged that and not just said *hey as long as sweep the past*s problems under the rug then everything will be just peachy today*, EHH? Damn you Ghibli and you high budget but vapid films…. 7/10. |
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| It was alright, standard Ghibli movie. It was much better than The Wind Rises, but weaker than Kaguya-hime. Did Anna see the "ghost" of Marnie or perhaps it was just hallucination, everything happened in her head since she already was autistic. I'd say that she was just messed up, which you could see in the way she acted the whole first half of the movie. She wasn't really sane or healthy. Her grandma used to tell her stories and her mind just did the rest. The weird lesbian vibe between Marnie and Anna was probably way too overdone. It was past the joke area, and it felt like they actually WERE lesbians for each other. Noticeable in the scene when Anna is butthurt since she got NTR'd by Kazuhiko. At the end of the movie it left a weird taste in my mouth, since in a way, it was a pretty weird and messed up lesbian incest movie. Overall, it was alright, nothing special, just your usual Ghibli quality. 7/10 |
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| Why does the few Ghibli movies I've watched make me cry...a grown man. |
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| well that was pretty great movie, full of emotion and superb animation !!! [spoiler]Although I have to be honest, the story is a bit weird for me but still it was fantastic[spoiler] |
ZetaZaku said: in a way, it was a pretty weird and messed up lesbian incest movie. rofl. this guy. |
| This was beautifully done. Even though I can already guess from the middle of the show of who Marnie is, nothing really prepares me for the moment when Anna found out Marnie real identity. The whole buildup was stirred slow, making the whole Anna encounters becomes a part of our memories of Marnie and then it hits you real hard when they had to say goodbyes. When the scene of aged Marnie telling stories to young Anna connect the dots, it brought me to tears. There are lots of messages delivered with that just one scene. Marnie is not a ghost, like what Anna has said, she is just a fragment of her imagination created from her subconscious memories, memories of the story Marnie has told her when she was little. She saw the photograph of her grandmother house before and it triggers her psychological regression of being an 'abandoned child' and creating the 'imaginary' Marnie to play with. Also the english title is misleading, it should be translated as "Marnie of (My) Memories". It is more relevant in its symbolism and connected to the plot ending. |
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| A pretty nice movie, looks very amazing. I thought (and would have found better) that Marnie was a personality of Anna.. maybe the personality she would have though to have if her parents were still alive. Many things at the start made it seem that way.. over the duration of the movie you can self-interpret pretty much and make all sorts of ideas how its going to end. Though it was pretty obvious that a ghibli movie wouldnt be that deep. The ending itself was fine, but they streched it maybe too long. After you already knew everthing the movie keeps on going as if it doesnt wants to end^^ Anyways, definitly one of the better ghibli movies out there. |
azzuRe said: Also the english title is misleading, it should be translated as "Marnie of (My) Memories". It is more relevant in its symbolism and connected to the plot ending. The source-material was an English book though. So if anything it's the Japanese that mistranslated/reinterpreted the title in their own way. Now granted, I don't know if the movie was an entirely faithful adaptation of the book, (though I looked up a quick summary, and the general plot seemed to be the same aside from the fact that the movie changed the setting to Japan and changed a bunch of character-names to reflect this) but I don't think one can really fault them for using the original title of the book. |
| Watched this after Kaguya-hime, maybe not that smart. Left me with high expectations. It was just alright for me, sadly. |
VyseLegendaire said: WHY? WHY ARE YOU OKAY NOW?! Lol am I alone in this? On what planet does a person resolve all of their personal tensions and grievances by engaging with the ghost of their dead grandma (which is generally considered improbably in real life). She did not even bother to give an explanation of what she learned or what shes going to try and do with her life now. She paints in color now! Yay! IMO the backstory of Marnie and co. was pretty terrible, broken family type stuff. You're not alone on this. In fact, that's why I came to this discussion forum haha, hoping to find an answer. I enjoyed the movie, it's a 7 or 8 for me, but what I don't understand is why Anna is different now. The friend she loved so dearly (Marnie) was a figment of her imagination. Her life is no different and nothing very significant happened to her--in fact, her last encounter with Marnie was of abandonment. So why does her entire outlook so drastically change? I'd love an answer if someone can explain it. I don't understand it at all. :/ |
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Guival said: azzuRe said: This was beautifully done. Even though I can already guess from the middle of the show of who Marnie is, nothing really prepares me for the moment when Anna found out Marnie real identity. The whole buildup was stirred slow, making the whole Anna encounters becomes a part of our memories of Marnie and then it hits you real hard when they had to say goodbyes. When the scene of aged Marnie telling stories to young Anna connect the dots, it brought me to tears. There are lots of messages delivered with that just one scene. Marnie is not a ghost, like what Anna has said, she is just a fragment of her imagination created from her subconscious memories, memories of the story Marnie has told her when she was little. She saw the photograph of her grandmother house before and it triggers her psychological regression of being an 'abandoned child' and creating the 'imaginary' Marnie to play with. Also the english title is misleading, it should be translated as "Marnie of (My) Memories". It is more relevant in its symbolism and connected to the plot ending. I agree with you. However, why does the old casual fisherman knew about her grandmother, like they are implying other people must have seen her? otherwise an old tale like that wouldn´t have surged or am I wrong? Edit: I watched it again, and all questions were answered, but just so you know ghosts are known for making people asleep and getting in their dreams. While undoubtedly Sayaka´s memories are triggered by her surrounding´s description, there´s much more to it to say about it. I assume the old fisherman knows Marnie when she was living on that house, just like Hisako. That is why I think the renamed title in Japanese instead of the original works is more strongly reflected in this. The 'Marnie' that we saw on this movie is entirely fragments of everyone's memory of her. The original works title of when Marnie was there is more vague but it clearly hinted in the past tense, as if they were reminiscing of Marnie. What you said about ghost is indeed interesting, I do think the real ghosts or should I say the spirit of Marnie is really existed, that is what makes this show is interesting as it is open to interpretations. Especially when all things fall into places we see that as if Marnie herself is guiding her granddaughter in overcoming her problems, as if she was talking directly to her through all the 'coincidences' like Sayaka found Marnie diary, or Anna aunt gives the old photograph signed by Marnie. It is a beautiful interpretations and did not changes the message of the show, a heartwarming themes self reconciliation and fixing broken bridges in your relationships. Life only comes once, you would want to live it with smiles, says Marnie with a smug on her face. Oh dear, I need to rewatch this show again, I miss her already. :( |
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| I'm not sure how faithful the adaptation is, especually concerning the smaller details. I really enjoyed it anyway. The mystery was pretty interesting. I don't think the ghost of the grandmother is real. The blonde girl although possibly the grandmother, seems more reminiscient of the doll she's holding in the flashbacks. Around 28, 1:19. This is her only friend and the only thing helping her through family troubles It is possible she was told about hair colour as part of the stories, but maybe not. It's seems like an elaborate retelling of the memories of her grandmother's stories. It all starts after seeing the house from the photo which acts as a catalyst. From there she enters a daydream state if not narcoleptic dreams about the stories in surprising detail. The story must take place over a significant amount of time. Probably at least a week where she finds closure in an outgoing personality she fabricated from her memories, and does make her first real friend. It may be stretching it to assume her problems to just disappear and they may not be. What is her problem? An inferiority complex and social anxity? She feels worthless because she only costs her guardians money and it seems like her parents didn't want her. There's also noticeable discomfort when the centre of atention at the party or at the festival. |
| Pretty nice Ghibli movie once again, while I do realise now why this movie didn't had a too huge viewing/profit count it still was very lovely to see. The art especially together with the atmosphere the story plays off was really lovely. While it started to get pretty clear that she was the granddaughter of Marnie near the middle of the movie it still was a really lovely addition to the whole story and how she had all those memories to that house and Marnie. So all in all this was a very lovely Ghibli movie with a touching and lifelike story! |
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| Dat ending songs is what really hits me.. |
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| Very nice, I had this feeling they were related somehow, specially because Anna's eyes was just like Marnie's! The song in the end was really pretty, 7/10 |
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| I know that Ghibli movies are not for me. I never got emotional when them and they always bore, yet I forced myself to watch this one. As I expected, it had the same slow and lonely theme, it even got me to sleep half way through XD However, after completing it I actually gave it 6/10. It was somehow good! The ending started to move things around. I really hated the fact of Marnie being "ghost" or whatever she is, but it was beautiful to be the grandmother who asks her grandchild for forgiveness since she was week and couldn't stay alive to take care of her. I also liked that Anna released that people need friends and other people and having friends is important. I am happy about the annoying new friend, she is different than the same boring beautiful girls usually introduced as friends in animes (Marnie as an example). Overall, yes I sort of liked it, but can't deny it was really slow and boring for most of the times :D |
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| I'm glad Ghibli went out with what I can only describe as an anti-Miyazaki film, rather than the unholy self-indulgent disaster that was 'The Wind Rises'. The way Marnie dealt with the ugly side of human interaction and how social anxiety can make what's easy for some horrible for others... That relatable human edge is what Miyazaki failed horribly with throughout his career; with his final film in particular. Marnie reminded me of 'A Letter From Momo'. Toaki90 said: Dat ending songs is what really hits me.. The credit song seemed a bit strange in light of the 'I lost my imaginary friend; NOW I'M SMILING & HAPPY!' end, but boy did it ever fit with how the movie began. The lyrics were so fittingly beautiful listening actually nudged my rating up to 7/10. Wonderful final note to end with, if it is the last of Ghibli. psychoalchemist said: VyseLegendaire said: WHY? WHY ARE YOU OKAY NOW?! Lol am I alone in this? On what planet does a person resolve all of their personal tensions and grievances by engaging with the ghost of their dead grandma (which is generally considered improbably in real life). She did not even bother to give an explanation of what she learned or what shes going to try and do with her life now. She paints in color now! Yay! IMO the backstory of Marnie and co. was pretty terrible, broken family type stuff. You're not alone on this. In fact, that's why I came to this discussion forum haha, hoping to find an answer. I enjoyed the movie, it's a 7 or 8 for me, but what I don't understand is why Anna is different now. The friend she loved so dearly (Marnie) was a figment of her imagination. Her life is no different and nothing very significant happened to her--in fact, her last encounter with Marnie was of abandonment. So why does her entire outlook so drastically change? I'd love an answer if someone can explain it. I don't understand it at all. :/ The film seemed to be pulling in two very different directions from the moment Marnie was introduced. All of a sudden, the lead went from incredibly socially awkward to entering into something of a 'magical' lesbian romance; free of social woes. I get that they were trying to have Marnie's character be a form of escapism that tied into the telegraphed end 'twist', but it just didn't add up that someone averse to socialising would find comfort in an outgoing friend that invited her to a party. And, yeah: the ending didn't make sense. How does losing the ONE imaginary friend she had made solve any of social difficulties and make her a happier person? All she learned was that her grandmother had a largely uninteresting/draggy (WHO CARES ABOUT KAZUHIKO/THE SILI!?) backstory and hadn't abandoned her. Why that made her feel the need to apologise to that pushy fat girl I know not. I don't know: the film was beautiful, in terms of the visuals and characters, yet it seemed conflicted as to what it was about. And it lacked the magic you'd expect from imaginary escapism. It's just not the sort of film that will do well since it has none of other Ghibli titles adventure and would leave most viewers confused over the overall message. |
| Watched it, it is average. After Wind Rises I expected more from Ghibli. 6/10 |
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| Just watched it in the cinema and I think the movie took me on a wonderful journey. |
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| I thought overall it was an enjoyable experience. I definitely liked it more than Miyazaki's last feature, though I can't say that it made a stronger impression on me than Princess Kaguya. Takahata means tough competition, that's gotta be said. First of, there's one thing I'm just still unclear about - that is whether Marnie was an illusion and how she communicated with Anna. Trying to explain supernatural elements is an ungrateful thing, but I would like to come up with at least some kind of conclusion of my own. Before I realise how the two were connected, I just assumed that Anna experienced visions of the past and somehow became part of them through alternating reality. Meaning, Marnie really did play with some girl, had a picnic with her, invited her to the party and so on, but in Anne's case the name of that "original" girl got replaced with her own, so did the questions so as to fit the current situation. This also made sense during the girls' stay at the silo: when Marnie kept calling for Kazuhiko what Anna experienced was a vision from the past and, at first, she was not even part of it because the link between the girls began to weaken, so the next time she saw Marnie was in a dream. But then this made me think that Anna always saw Marnie in her dreams only. After their dates she was either unconscious or shaken in some way, which makes me think that Anna caught a cold without realising it and kept passing out do to weak health. It was also strange that Marnie wore Victorian clothes, yet she was possibly born after the WWII. Well, her parents and the guests at the manor were dressed as if they came straight from the 20s, so you could simply say that these were the whims of a rich family. On the other hand, the one thing I especially liked is that the voice actors for this film are virtually unknown in the anime-world. It is always a great experience to listen to someone other than professionals who tend to sound artificial after some time. Here, the emotions expressed in the characters' voices were genuine and managed to evoke a response from me. That is one of the things I always liked about Ghibli. It felt like the studio tried to experiment with new things: social anxiety, depression, broken homes and the impact of experiencing such trauma at a young age. The film also explored various emotional states rather well - joy, anger, fear, resentment... It was quite poignant, heart-warming, and hopeful all at the same time. Most anime can only manage to get one of those emotions down, and the rare special few will manage two or three. But this hit all the major feelings both the characters and the viewer could have about what happened on screen. My favourite moments were probably Anna's first encounter of Marnie, the scene when Anna ran away from the festival and when she finally called Yoriko "mom". The ending song was amazing and very fitting. As silly as it may sound, I think it is also one of my favorite things about the film. Sometimes a good musical composition or song can help overlook any faults I found in something. |
vizhmaster_vizhu said: ZetaZaku said: in a way, it was a pretty weird and messed up lesbian incest movie. rofl. this guy. Hahahaha! Damn it, I'll admit, I was thinking that, too. The yuri subtext was pretty strong until the big reveal at the end. |
| Very nice story. I enjoyed the reveal. 9/10 |
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| Ghibli,You did it again! I crying... I again what more! Again movie ended with me having these feelings! Damn you, Ghibli! This was so goooood! I thought this could be ghost of some girl, later I thought Anna's doll from childhood, but... damn it! Right in feelings! Love it! |
| My dad watched this with me last night, and he doesn't generally like Anime but he decided to watch it with me because it was my birthday. He and I really enjoyed it, my only complaint was the Anna was slow at realizing the obvious. |
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| I like it my mother like it my grandmother like it too... |
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| Marnie was a memory Anna created with the fragments of stories she recollected; and the stories were nothing but her bed-time stories that Marnie shared with her, Marnie's own story with her grandchild, Anna. Marnie had a sad life and her only wish was to make sure her grandchild Anna lived a loving life. And it seems her wish has been granted. I knew they were connected when I realized Anna had sparkling blue eyes. But it was so powerfully executed nonetheless. Been a while since I last saw a Ghibli movie and I am glad that I did. Old school classic Ghibli. 9/10 |
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| I need more movies like that one with such a great story and music |
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| Sorry to ask but where did you watch it? I can't seem to find anything decent regarding Subs? :/ |
| Yeah i saw those but i wondered why there was nothing "better" |
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