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Nov 26, 2014 8:29 AM
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Nice, Toru and Chaika kicking ass in this tournament just like I had expected.

Action is great with a lot of Chaikas taking on Akari and Frederica. I feel a bit sorry for Vivi since Alveric attacks them. I don't think she had the will to fight him directly until he came back to his senses. RIP hand

That didn't end very well for Toru and others ;_;
Damn it.
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Nov 26, 2014 9:34 AM
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Nice episode. OMG they killed Fredrica, they bastards. And it's so unfortunate for Vivi to reunite with someone she admires in this way.

So that's how the "Chaika Rangers" visualization looked like...

This is going to have an original ending for sure, since they have changed the plot a lot. There's no way they can finish it in two episodes, especially if we consider the surprising chain of events happened after this...
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Nov 26, 2014 11:05 AM
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Pretty epic episode!

We finally got some Chaika on Chaika action, and some Saboteur on Saboteur as well. So I can't complain. Too bad its having to be rushed so much...

But it was still an awesome episode! I wonder how they will wrap this up in two episodes?
Nov 26, 2014 11:12 AM
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It was good but they certainly rushed Gillette's return to his senses huh? His group and Red Chaika's group will help in defeating Black Chaika no doubt. 2 more episodes left now, time to find out what the point of gathering the remains really was.
Nov 26, 2014 11:12 AM
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Finally, Gillette recovers his memories but lost an arm before that... Red Chaika declares her loss, but Tooru still couldn't win against Shin. :c

Really great episode and there were no boring moments for me. 2 episodes left and.....how are they going to end the series?
Nov 26, 2014 11:19 AM
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Solid episode, wonder if Toru is gonna take Shin's hint and stop being a saboteur and instead become a dragoon knight...
Nov 26, 2014 11:24 AM
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The battleground's scenario was pretty amazing.

So that is how Black Chaika started all of this. Those puppet Chaika!

Vivi attacking Gillette at the right moment and saved Nikolai's life! Glad he got his memories back.

Red Chaika surrendering, I like how she values her companions!

Everyone captured except Toru and having been told to give all their remains :/ Hmm, the floating castle would probably incite something.
Nov 26, 2014 11:43 AM
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NIce episode,
Vivi finally reunited with Gillette.
Red Chaika is not that bad after all.
Can't wait for next episode......
Nov 26, 2014 11:55 AM
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Well then Taru got owned by Shin.
Nov 26, 2014 11:58 AM

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Oh mn that was intense! Poor Toru is no match for his mentor, even the dragoon was taken out quickly!
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Nov 26, 2014 12:01 PM

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eeveelugia said:
Nice episode. OMG they killed Fredrica, they bastards. And it's so unfortunate for Vivi to reunite with someone she admires in this way.

So that's how the "Chaika Rangers" visualization looked like...

This is going to have an original ending for sure, since they have changed the plot a lot. There's no way they can finish it in two episodes, especially if we consider the surprising chain of events happened after this...


They have not changed the plot, they are just rushing some of the things that werer in the LN.

It has been confirmed that this series will have more or less as the same ending as the LN. Vol 11 which would conclude the story will be released one week after the anime airs and the writer already has finished the drafts and sent them to the studio.

What they are skipping is mostly the comedic moments, the battles were far longer and the inner dialogue has been cut out.

The last LN volume , volume 12 will be released in march but that volume will mostly contain side stories. It will also have an ova with it.

i mean cmon, there are series which are far worse of than this one. ...Cough Akame ga Kill Cough...

This story will be concluded properly i almost have no doubt :D
Nov 26, 2014 12:21 PM

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Nice ep. ALL DEM CHAIKA'S O_O NINJA'S EVERYWHERE LOL XD

Man are the Black Chaika's Seductive as F*** :3...All dem "Keikaku Doori's" doe XD

Shin owned them all. But we still haven't seen Toru ever fight him with his Iron Blood mode so he still has a chance. Too bad Fredrica got sealed <_< Well I guess she'd be too guess to leave unattended XD

I wonder if Gaz really is inside Hartogen since Chaika calls him father?

Oh and good for Vivi getting her Gillette back ^^
Nov 26, 2014 12:31 PM

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I have to say, these episodes are getting more and more interesting... I didn't expect to be this into it, but I do really want to know what will happen to them now that they're all separated. And that Black Chaika reminds me of the Chaika last season (except this Chaika collects chaikas, which I find strange). It seems like the more powerful the people you pair up with, the better.
Nov 26, 2014 12:33 PM

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Seems like a good time to finally accept Fredrica's offer and become a dragoon cavalier already.
Nov 26, 2014 12:49 PM

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Gillette lost a hand, that was cool.
Nov 26, 2014 12:50 PM
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Dra- goon Knight! Dra- goon knight!
Yeah, I know it's cavalier but 'knight' rolls off the tongue nicely.
Toru needs class upgrade.
Nov 26, 2014 1:09 PM
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According to that retainer, Hartgen plans to be the second Emperor Gaz. I wonder if the first Gaz is currently possessing him somehow..

A lot of Chikas this episode, including those puppet ninja ones too! For a moment, I thought Fredrica got Akari's hand between the door and the wall. :O

It cost Gillette his wrist before he came to his senses. Though I don't like Vivi that much, it's good to see she got back her captain.

Toru & white Chaika vs David & red Chaika was pretty awesome! A bit surprised that red Chaika admitted defeat a little easily. Before, she would've been a tenacious one.

Shin is too much for Toru to handle. Even if he used Iron-Blood Transformation, I doubt he would've won anyways.

Good episode. Looks like they'll have to hand over the remains after all. I think black Chaika has her own motive and probably fooling Hartgen.

Nov 26, 2014 1:18 PM

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Action packed to the brim!
Fun episode, didn't leave me bored.
Oh god who are you people?
Nov 26, 2014 1:25 PM
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Shin is too much for Toru to handle. Even if he used Iron-Blood Transformation, I doubt he would've won anyways.


Shin can probably use Iron Blood mode as well, so nop, don't think Toru has a chance

maybe if he becomes Dragoon Cavalier
Nov 26, 2014 1:27 PM
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Shin is too strong for Tohru and Akari. They should really accept Fredrica's offer or join forces with Gillette and co. in order ot get our of this pinch.
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Nov 26, 2014 1:38 PM

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Gillette lost a hand, that was cool.
Ya gotta hand it to Vivi that was quite the reunion.

Action was pretty good this episode. You can tell white Chaika has come really far shes casting spells really quickly now.
Nov 26, 2014 1:40 PM

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Pretty action packed episode this time around. It's nice they got all the battles they were setting up over with but it felt pretty rushed. The reunion between Gillette and Viivi isn't as emotional as i wanted it to be but still good.

Still loving the choreography. People actually attack at the same time :o

Seems like we got all the colors of the rainbow now.

I highly doubt Fredrica is dead. This is her third time "dying" now?
Nov 26, 2014 2:19 PM
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Well,I certainly did not expect Vivi to cut off Gillette's hand,though I expected more emotion from Vivi. But at least it did not felt overly emotional and melodramatic.

And I guess that if Toru and Akari won't pull some absolutely random power-up,Toru will most likely become Dragoon Cavalier.
Nov 26, 2014 2:36 PM

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I'm surprised Vivi had enough strength to wield Nikolai's sword. Not only that, but she was able to swing it faster than Gillette's saber. I'm calling BS on that so hard.
Good episode, Fredrica seems to get pwned a lot considering she's a huge scary dragoon.
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Nov 26, 2014 2:57 PM

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>2 episodes left
>still no contract

It's freaking madoka all over again...
Nov 26, 2014 3:56 PM
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Toru and white Chaika kicked some asses in this tournament.

Shin is too much for Toru to handle.
Nov 26, 2014 5:13 PM

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Chaika here, Chaika there. Chaika everyfuckingwhere.
Nov 26, 2014 6:12 PM

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Toru is going to lose everything if he does not do something.

Great episode!!!
Nov 26, 2014 10:05 PM

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Dragoon! Come on Toru stop teasing us and become a Cavalier!
Nov 26, 2014 11:22 PM

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man its always gonna end up with chaika getting rolld
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Nov 26, 2014 11:24 PM

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Wow what an episode, and what a cliff hanger.

Why does Fredrica always get owned so conveniently?

Time for Toru to become Dragoon Cavalier plox
Nov 27, 2014 12:00 AM

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Hey Red, stop being so stubborn and just team up with White already~
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Nov 27, 2014 1:25 AM

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2 Eps left and still not much progress to plot, guess we'll be needing a 3rd season, if ever.

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Nov 27, 2014 4:06 AM

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Good fights in the episode, but I think the plot is very stagnant, missing only 2 episodes and I still can not see the climax of the story ..
Nov 27, 2014 4:17 AM

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Toru and Chaika still on a quest to find the remains. Unfortunately for them, they encounter big challenges than ever before. Fredrice and Akari got caught by no other than Shin. Gillete finally remembered Vivi and Nikolai. All it took was to cut off his hand. Red Chaika forfeiting the match. Something was up with that. Shin owning Toru was just awesome. Still not yet cut out to be a saboteur he says.
Nov 27, 2014 5:16 AM

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Wat. Some fight scenes are too short and ended anti-climatic. Especially Gillette vs. Vivi/Nikolai battle... That was quick.

Whaaaat, I still have some hope that White Chaika is the real Chaika, but its Black Chaika? :( Man, there's a lot of Chaika tho.

I salute you, Red Chaika.
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Nov 27, 2014 8:01 AM

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Gillette thats fast, well forget whatever all the scenes he was previously in cause its all irrelevent now. Seriously what that one scene is all it takes to get his memory back jezz.

So the king has been possessed by Gaz to follow in his not dead anymore footsteps. That's cute, what's up with black Chaika's they are just henchman what?
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Nov 27, 2014 8:36 AM

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eeveelugia said:
Nice episode. OMG they killed Fredrica, they bastards. And it's so unfortunate for Vivi to reunite with someone she admires in this way.

So that's how the "Chaika Rangers" visualization looked like...

This is going to have an original ending for sure, since they have changed the plot a lot. There's no way they can finish it in two episodes, especially if we consider the surprising chain of events happened after this...


They have not changed the plot, they are just rushing some of the things that werer in the LN.

It has been confirmed that this series will have more or less as the same ending as the LN. Vol 11 which would conclude the story will be released one week after the anime airs and the writer already has finished the drafts and sent them to the studio.

What they are skipping is mostly the comedic moments, the battles were far longer and the inner dialogue has been cut out.

The last LN volume , volume 12 will be released in march but that volume will mostly contain side stories. It will also have an ova with it.

i mean cmon, there are series which are far worse of than this one. ...Cough Akame ga Kill Cough...

This story will be concluded properly i almost have no doubt :D


No, don't get me wrong, I never said the alternation of the plot is a bad thing, the Chaika team actually done an amazing job with the adaptation, there are even original plots that weren't in the LN that I particularly like, such as the Claudia episode.

But even though the main plot remains intact, there are far many things other than the comedic moments that were being altered. We are now on vol.9 and there are still two full volumes to go, but we get two episodes left, there is no way I can guess how they will end the anime.

At least for this episode's plot, I notice the following differences:



I am just wondering how they are going to end it with definitely not enough films left.
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eeveelugia said:
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They have not changed the plot, they are just rushing some of the things that werer in the LN.

It has been confirmed that this series will have more or less as the same ending as the LN. Vol 11 which would conclude the story will be released one week after the anime airs and the writer already has finished the drafts and sent them to the studio.

What they are skipping is mostly the comedic moments, the battles were far longer and the inner dialogue has been cut out.

The last LN volume , volume 12 will be released in march but that volume will mostly contain side stories. It will also have an ova with it.

i mean cmon, there are series which are far worse of than this one. ...Cough Akame ga Kill Cough...

This story will be concluded properly i almost have no doubt :D


No, don't get me wrong, I never said the alternation of the plot is a bad thing, the Chaika team actually done an amazing job with the adaptation, there are even original plots that weren't in the LN that I particularly like, such as the Claudia episode.

But even though the main plot remains intact, there are far many things other than the comedic moments that were being altered. We are now on vol.9 and there are still two full volumes to go, but we get two episodes left, there is no way I can guess how they will end the anime.

At least for this episode's plot, I notice the following differences:



I am just wondering how they are going to end it with definitely not enough films left.


They could be milking it for all the money it's worth and end the entire series with a movie, or something, no? I can totally see this happening.

As for the changes to the LN, I think they pretty much skipped any and all Frederica development. The way they showed things in this episode makes me believe that they're going for something similar but ultimately different from what was in the LN. Think about it, Tooru wasn't even that hurt after getting beat down by Shin, he don't need a blood transfusion in that state. Plus, they only took away Chaika, even the preview showed Akari with Tooru in their vehicle.

I think the directors are going for the shounen factor here:
3rd last episode: get beat down
2nd last episode: power up
last episode: avenge the previous loss + happy ending...

Still, I'm still not positive that starting another war is the remaining plot device here. If it were, then they wouldn't have any need for Niva at all, they could just recruit mercs and an army any time and start one. Plus, they never did explain what Guy really was or what his purpose was.

I'm really looking forward to the next episode here!
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Nov 27, 2014 1:03 PM

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Nov 27, 2014 1:26 PM

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Holy hell! Toru is in no way weak or a slacker but their mentor wiped the floor with him EASILY! And Im totally expecting black Chaika or the twin Chaikas to just stab Hartgen any minute after this. Also, its damn sad thisll end in 2 weeks :(
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Shin is too much for Toru to handle. Even if he used Iron-Blood Transformation, I doubt he would've won anyways.


Shin can probably use Iron Blood mode as well, so nop, don't think Toru has a chance

maybe if he becomes Dragoon Cavalier

Mate, he can DEFINITELY use Iron-Blood Transformation (remember, its a technique used by all those from Acura Village) but Shin's is probably on a much higher level. Hell, the power gap between Shin's and Toru's IBT's is probably greater than their normal power gap.
Nov 27, 2014 3:15 PM

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It was a decent episode. Only thing I don't like about this anime is how little screen time Frederica gets.
Nov 27, 2014 4:26 PM

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Frederica isn't that, she can't dye to regular wounds, only that spot in her head. Well, maybe cutting the head itself off would also work, but no matter how many arrows there are in her body, she won't die. They even said it there "we disabled the dragoons powers". While technically her powers are disabled when she is dead, too, wouldn't that be a bit pointless to mention?

It's still sad that she nearly always gets taken out instantly. I mean, she would just be a bit OP otherwise, but that fast..she wasn't even using her dragon (true?) form, which is probably the strongest through mere size alone.

And that long awaited final clash between red and white was over rather fast..same as the fight against Gillette. They are rushing a lot here, do they really intent to put the whole conclusion in two episodes or what?
Nov 28, 2014 4:23 AM

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Those fights were quick asf
Well I like these developments
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Nov 28, 2014 6:39 AM

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Well the gilette case was solved rather quickly....5 minutes after meeting him they managed to get his memories back.

The bad guys seem rather bland to me....
Nov 28, 2014 9:32 AM

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I really enjoyed this episode. I'm really sad that we pretty much only have two episodes left for this series. Oh well, I better enjoy it while it lasts.
Nov 28, 2014 11:37 AM

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Damn,Things are getting real!
all the chaikas and the remains finally brought together,
what with this black chaika?!?
poor Viivi at least Gillette still alive,
Chaika and Tooru make a great team and red
Chaika choose to give up, its Shin again
Akari and Fredrica captured........
2 episodes left, cant wait to next episode :)
Nov 29, 2014 1:01 AM

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Wow Toru got rekt.

SO MANY CHAIKAS!

Man only two more episodes. Hope the finale's good.

4/5

Nov 29, 2014 2:40 AM

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So actionpacked and so much Chaikas this episode! Really love it. Although I hate that Akari didn't get much of a fight scene... and I wanted to see a real battle between Tooru and Shin.
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So now Vivi and Nikolai the ones to "have violated" the rules, with Tooru and Chaika following them next in line.

Ah, that's how Hartgen met the black Chaika and started the tournament eh.

Holy crap! An army of Chaikas are attacking Akari and Fredrica XD.

Dat hand doe...

Damn, Gillette vs Nikolai and Vivi T.T

LOL, RIP Gillette's hand XD.

Tooru and Chaika kicked ass apparently.

To be honest, Tooru should just accept Fredrica's proposal of becoming her master...
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