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Jan 13, 2014 7:28 PM

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I'm not exactly sure whether my post will get read by those who're talking about Hina and time travel above, but here's my interpretation of it:

The Hina in the current future doesn't know Aoba or Dio, and thinks of them as only enemies. It is only through later interactions with Aoba and Dio that she presumably falls for Aoba and goes to the other side (or the other way around). The Hina that saved Aoba from ep. 1 and sent him into the future has already gotten to know the two of them. One of two things could've happened with her. 1) Since far future Hina could not exist in the near future, far future Hina's existence gets wiped out after she entered the time warp with Aoba. In the far future, she's simply considered dead. 2) The same principle applies, but far future Hina gets bounced back to the far future to meet up with Aoba, who's eventually going to get to the far future as story progresses. Given how Sunrise loves to kill off characters at times, I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about the first scenario, but I'm obviously hoping for the second.

One thing we do not know and will not be able to know anytime soon is how or why far future Hina traveled to the past to protect Aoba, but I'm sure that'll be resolved later on.
Jan 13, 2014 7:41 PM

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zannet_t said:
I'm not exactly sure whether my post will get read by those who're talking about Hina and time travel above, but here's my interpretation of it:

The Hina in the current future doesn't know Aoba or Dio, and thinks of them as only enemies. It is only through later interactions with Aoba and Dio that she presumably falls for Aoba and goes to the other side (or the other way around). The Hina that saved Aoba from ep. 1 and sent him into the future has already gotten to know the two of them. One of two things could've happened with her. 1) Since far future Hina could not exist in the near future, far future Hina's existence gets wiped out after she entered the time warp with Aoba. In the far future, she's simply considered dead. 2) The same principle applies, but far future Hina gets bounced back to the far future to meet up with Aoba, who's eventually going to get to the far future as story progresses. Given how Sunrise loves to kill off characters at times, I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about the first scenario, but I'm obviously hoping for the second.

One thing we do not know and will not be able to know anytime soon is how or why far future Hina traveled to the past to protect Aoba, but I'm sure that'll be resolved later on.


Pretty good theories there. Sounds actually pretty legit.
Jan 13, 2014 7:54 PM

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Not bad, but as expected, Hina is on the enemy side.
Jan 13, 2014 8:00 PM
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so wait hina is his enemy
Jan 13, 2014 8:10 PM

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Zogolia = Britannia
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Snickers. LMAO.
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Jan 13, 2014 8:26 PM
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Well at least it's interesting. Sticking around to see how it turns out.
Jan 13, 2014 8:47 PM

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This episode made up for the off tone start for me. Future isn't always what you think its going to be. :)
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Jan 13, 2014 8:57 PM

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This show is actually pretty damn entertaining, although I will reserve judgment until more of the plot has been laid out. Quite surprised that so few people are following this despite it being a mecha show.
Jan 13, 2014 9:20 PM

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zannet_t said:
I'm not exactly sure whether my post will get read by those who're talking about Hina and time travel above, but here's my interpretation of it:

The Hina in the current future doesn't know Aoba or Dio, and thinks of them as only enemies. It is only through later interactions with Aoba and Dio that she presumably falls for Aoba and goes to the other side (or the other way around). The Hina that saved Aoba from ep. 1 and sent him into the future has already gotten to know the two of them. One of two things could've happened with her. 1) Since far future Hina could not exist in the near future, far future Hina's existence gets wiped out after she entered the time warp with Aoba. In the far future, she's simply considered dead. 2) The same principle applies, but far future Hina gets bounced back to the far future to meet up with Aoba, who's eventually going to get to the far future as story progresses. Given how Sunrise loves to kill off characters at times, I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about the first scenario, but I'm obviously hoping for the second.

One thing we do not know and will not be able to know anytime soon is how or why far future Hina traveled to the past to protect Aoba, but I'm sure that'll be resolved later on.
because reverse causality and time travel paradox.. i'm serious..
Jan 13, 2014 9:21 PM

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Nice, classic (cliche?) progression for a mecha series. Leave it to Sunrise to try to appeal to both mecha fans and fujoshi at the same time lol. Nice coupling! Proposal!
Jan 13, 2014 10:06 PM

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02:23 Silvertime!!!

12:28 so, they share senses too?

22:13 wuttt??

Well, yayy for Hina's kanbakku!
8/10. Gureito meka akushon.
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Jan 13, 2014 10:16 PM

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zannet_t said:


The Hina in the current future doesn't know Aoba or Dio, and thinks of them as only enemies. It is only through later interactions with Aoba and Dio that she presumably falls for Aoba and goes to the other side (or the other way around). The Hina that saved Aoba from ep. 1 and sent him into the future has already gotten to know the two of them.

One thing we do not know and will not be able to know anytime soon is how or why far future Hina traveled to the past to protect Aoba, but I'm sure that'll be resolved later on.

exactly what I'm thinking...
Jan 13, 2014 10:42 PM

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zannet_t said:
I'm not exactly sure whether my post will get read by those who're talking about Hina and time travel above, but here's my interpretation of it:

The Hina in the current future doesn't know Aoba or Dio, and thinks of them as only enemies. It is only through later interactions with Aoba and Dio that she presumably falls for Aoba and goes to the other side (or the other way around). The Hina that saved Aoba from ep. 1 and sent him into the future has already gotten to know the two of them. One of two things could've happened with her. 1) Since far future Hina could not exist in the near future, far future Hina's existence gets wiped out after she entered the time warp with Aoba. In the far future, she's simply considered dead. 2) The same principle applies, but far future Hina gets bounced back to the far future to meet up with Aoba, who's eventually going to get to the far future as story progresses. Given how Sunrise loves to kill off characters at times, I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about the first scenario, but I'm obviously hoping for the second.

One thing we do not know and will not be able to know anytime soon is how or why far future Hina traveled to the past to protect Aoba, but I'm sure that'll be resolved later on.


I actually thought of the idea that the Hina at the end of the chapter has yet to travel to the past to fetch Aoba.
The series is really entertaining and very promising. Looking foward to the next chapter.
Also, I am the only one who think the animation is excellent?
Jan 13, 2014 11:11 PM

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Soul-Master said:

Also, I am the only one who think the animation is excellent?
No you are not, its eye candy for sure, even the cgi is really well done and not super noticeable since they mix it in with regular 2D animation and only use cgi when its doing something too time consuming to make in normal 2d animation, which is how it should be used

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jan 13, 2014 11:11 PM

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Hina's with the enemy and Bizon was the guy who tried to kill Aoba. Hmmm...

Nice coupling and Proposal? The first thing that popped in my head was when Rika was reading mecha porn lmao! The fujoshis are having a field day.
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Jan 13, 2014 11:22 PM

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i think i get y this is called "Buddy Complex" now

was that Hina at the end?
Jan 13, 2014 11:59 PM

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i think i get y this is called "Buddy Complex" now

was that Hina at the end?


Ya.

Also, the mechs look quite good in motion compared to their original designs. The 2 main mechs look pretty darn good transformed too. Very good action and combat this episode. Hopefully the quality can keep up.
Jan 14, 2014 12:08 AM

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Ryusha said:
I feel creepy with that "nice coupling" words when both of them are guy. I know how Dio feels about that "coupling" thing to transform the robots. :D
I got a lot vibe about Gundam in this anime. Like the 2 fraction, the twist on characters from both side, etc. Well, I sense this'll be the better mecha anime this season and way better than Valvrave(I think), or maybe thats my wish.
Well, its just the mecha(s) seems a bit odd for me. Oh well, I will get to use it soon tho.

anyway, was hoping something's happen with that time-loop thing. I dont want the ending like Valvrave, frustrating ending.

It's like they are already used to it especially since Dio's previous partner was a guy too (poor Marcus is gone).

I'm also concerned that the time loop will cause problems to the story. This anime is otherwise looking really good.
Jan 14, 2014 12:10 AM

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Im not that into it.
The last 5 minutes were kind of interesting.
Jan 14, 2014 12:17 AM

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DAT HINA.

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Jan 14, 2014 12:34 AM

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Looking forward to the "Watase Aoba, ikematsu!" scene once they make him into a pilot.
Jan 14, 2014 12:58 AM
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Wow seriously did not see that ending coming.
Jan 14, 2014 2:42 AM

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Whoa! Hina's fighting with the enemy? What the hell?!

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Jan 14, 2014 3:19 AM

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Thoughts:
2:27 those uniforms are just like the ones from any gundam series

7:21 omg, 2 guys coupling!!!! Kyaaaaaaa!!!!

8:58 "Hurry up and conduct the Proposing!" kyaaaaa!!!

14:37 those particles from that turbine… it's just like the ones from Gundam 00

16:56 japan + english countries VS china + russia + others… sweet

22:28 wtf? Y is hina on the opposing side? D:

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Overall:
1. Nice to see the enemies' perspective

2. I actually bought all the fighting and music… maybe because it's from Sunrise

3. Story looks interesting: time travel x buddy coupling x mystery x cliff hangers.

Ep2: 8/10
Jan 14, 2014 4:08 AM

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Nice coupling? Proposal? Why do I feel this anime is also aimed at BL fans.

Watase looks like a decent main character.

Already expected that Hina will be the enemy judging from the OP and ED.

I hope this will not be a trainwreck like Valvrave. Adding time loop/time travel stuff can
get the story messy.
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Jan 14, 2014 4:14 AM

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Wow, that end. Totally didn't expect that. Looking forward to the next ep! ^^
Jan 14, 2014 4:20 AM

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Please don't turn into Yaoi......... Please don't turn into Yaoi ..............Please don't turn into Yaoi
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Jan 14, 2014 6:37 AM
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almost didn't notice that Hina's hairclip is part of the time loop... Which always makes me question... Where did it come from in the first place? There always had to be a previous alternate universe where everything started from in order to get stuck in a time loop right? I wonder if they'll tell us :P
Jan 14, 2014 6:40 AM

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So hinas the enemy? So the previous Hina was from further into the future? Im guess when all this ends either Hina somehow survives from what happened previous episode or she cant break the loop and goes to the past just to die to fulfill the present, if so then thats sad cause they wont ever be together. Curious to see how Hina will become a main part of the cast since shes the enemy.
Jan 14, 2014 6:49 AM

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Going good so far. Conventional but makes sense and still enjoyable.
Jan 14, 2014 7:43 AM

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nice mecha action ^^
so Hina was enemy? LOL
Jan 14, 2014 8:32 AM
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Coupling, proposal???????sounds too yaoi to me.
Jan 14, 2014 9:26 AM

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Hmm if they share everything when they are "Coupling". Then what if the other person dies? 0___0
Jan 14, 2014 9:29 AM

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AnimeFan500 said:
Hmm if they share everything when they are "Coupling". Then what if the other person dies? 0___0
im guessing the coupling ends then, seeing how the marcus dude was apparently coupling with dio before id imagine he died whilst coupling

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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AnimeFan500 said:
Hmm if they share everything when they are "Coupling". Then what if the other person dies? 0___0
im guessing the coupling ends then, seeing how the marcus dude was apparently coupling with dio before id imagine he died whilst coupling


Phew. That's good to know.
Jan 14, 2014 9:32 AM
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How? Hina is a traitor?

Future Snickers called "Cockers":
http://i39.tinypic.com/smgeir.jpg
Jan 14, 2014 11:02 AM

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awesome battle scenes this ep, so good :)
ending really caught me off guard tho *_*

hina whyyy ;;
Jan 14, 2014 11:03 AM

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I really find the mecha design utterly ugly.
As for the episode, nice OP/ED.

"Dio's Bradyon"
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The MC will probably show to Hina the hairclip so she will trust him and ect.
Anything special so far, but it's enjoyable.

Anyway, the gay-fusion reminded me Sousei no Aquarion's GATTAI.
Jan 14, 2014 12:07 PM
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I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this "Nice Coupling" stuff is gay.
Jan 14, 2014 12:55 PM

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Apparently a lot of people think this is just like Valvrave, I've heard good things about it but wayyyyy too many shows right now to even think about trying to catch up on an old series. I'll just have to put it in my 'to watch' list.

I'm liking it so far, the description that's on MAL really has very little to do with the actual plot of the series. Not a single mention there about time travel or mecha. My main complaint so far is that the main character seems to be rock-stupid. How many times did Dio have to tell him to say "Connect with Dio" before he finally listened? I understand he's disoriented and all from everything that's happened to him in the past hour or so, but you'd think in a situation like this it would take less than 10 repetitions to get him to do what the fuck he's being told to do.
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Apology said:
Future Snickers called "Cockers":
http://i39.tinypic.com/smgeir.jpg

Actually, it looks more like "Complex" to me

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The MC will probably show to Hina the hairclip so she will trust him and ect.

Looking at the OP, Zogilia's Hina was shown to unconsciously touched her hair where that pink clip is supposed to be. It's a hint she might have some memories of it, possibly due to repeating so many time loops.

The fact that this hair clip did not disappear when Aoba was going to the future means it is something Zogilia's Hina hadn't possessed right now and Aoba will give it to her later on.

Some observations:
_ Zogilia has existed in the past when Aoba started highschool. The new substance Nectoribium discovered by Zogilia has something to do with humanity's new robot technology. It's either a fuel source or new material that makes those mechs. Future warships also use Nectar cannons made from Nectoribium.
_ The crazy guy that attacked Aoba in the past is most likely Bizon. Poor guy, he looks cool and is on top of his game before Aoba's appearance in the future. Aoba must have turned his life into a living hell (by taking Hina and killing his comrades) to warrant such hatred.
_ The higher match, the better performance of mech during "Coupling." Mechs have to stay within range to initiate "Coupling." This feature forces Aoba to tag along Dio in every fight if they want that level of performance.There's also a limit on how long it can last.
_ Cannon fodder Zogilia mech at the end of ep 2 will likely be destroyed next ep. Its death flag was raised for not being a custom-made robot.
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AnimeFan500 said:
NotJizzyHitler said:
AnimeFan500 said:
Hmm if they share everything when they are "Coupling". Then what if the other person dies? 0___0
im guessing the coupling ends then, seeing how the marcus dude was apparently coupling with dio before id imagine he died whilst coupling


Phew. That's good to know.
I mean i kind of just pulled that out of my ass so dont take my word for it

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jan 14, 2014 2:57 PM

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Ohh, so Hina was the enemy before, but Aoba somehow used his charms to bring her to their own side later. Very nicee!
Jan 14, 2014 3:15 PM
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Akanezora said:
I really find the mecha design utterly ugly.


It reminds me of Code Geass and Gundam Wing crossover. BTW have you seen akito? I actually like the design of the EU knightmares.
Jan 14, 2014 6:02 PM

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Oh hey, it's Durandal from Gundam Seed Destiny! They really are copying and pasting characters from Seed/Destiny.
Jan 14, 2014 7:27 PM

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Lol at people getting so sensitive about the bromance in this anime.
Jan 14, 2014 7:35 PM
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Yeesh.... Good episode but they say coupling too much...
Well if I ever have a drinking game with friends, drink everytime they said coupling and proposal.

Apology said:
How? Hina is a traitor?


Dude.... This show has time travel....
Thats obviously Hina BEFORE she even knows Dio and Aoba... The Hina we know from the first episode is most likely from a farther future time.

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DRIFT COMPATIBILITY!!


Freaking this
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What happen to the Aoba that was in this timeline? Does he just disappear.
Jan 14, 2014 8:32 PM

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Well the girl being an enemy was interesting.

so it's basically japan+usa vs soviet russia ??

At least I know that Snickers still exist in 2088 :)
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