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| Okay... I liked this episode, don't get me wrong but I'm starting to get kind of annoyed with the Gatchaman never actually fighting. We are 7 episodes into this anime and the only actual short fight we saw was the first one in the first episode. I'm getting tired of Hajime's "care and at the same time don't care"-attitude. I really liked her at the beginning and thought she would actually fight against Berg Katze but she just talks casually to it while two of her friends are nearly dead. There is a point where you have to draw a line, really... Lucky for her she has Utsutsu who can heal them but what if she wasn't there? Would she still just let them lie there dying while she asks Berg Katze some stupid questions? And at the same time Utsutsu is slowly sacrificing her life force because her friends almost died... and Hajime doesn't even care about that, too. Pai-Pai turned badass and than completely coward in two seconds... Even if you are too scared to fight, you don't even try to save your friends? You were right, Pai-Pai, you really are a useless Leader. Hajime has to realize that you can't just "meet" and be friends with everyone. She should've learned by now that she can't reason with Berg Katze, because it just wants to destroy the world. First she talks to Pai-Pai of how they have to decide something even if it's scary to change something... and in the end she herself does nothing at all... awesome. Right now I'm really disappointed with the Gatchaman... |
| "The fool who believed in miracles now walks among the dead." ~ Blade of the Phantom Master |
| It's like they told Mamoru Miyano to go nuts. And he did. And it was awesome. I was waiting for Berg Katze and Hajime to finally meet. They played off of each other so well. Nice performances by the two. |
| Really entertaining episode one of the best so far. This is a really strange show, I really can't make up my mind about it. I can't tell if I think it's good or just entertaining. Well the only thing I know is that it's one of the shows that I look forward to the most every week this season so that has to be a good sign, one way or another it really manages to keep me at the edge of my seat. |
Lil_Wayne said: Tbh your problem is you don't really get Hajime's intentions. This isn't a stupid girl. You like the blonde one are looking straight ahead and just want to see good defeat evil while Hajime realizes it isn't always that black and white. Instead she tries to understand her enemy and see if the problem can be resolved without fighting. In regards to Katze even if her friends were getting killed at his hands, what could Hajime do? Hajime would just end up getting destroyed like the others compounding the problem and putting Utsutsu in danger. Trying to fight Katze would be stupid. If Utsutsu were not there her actions probably would be different, but she probably still wouldnt fight Katze and would focus on either distracting him or moving the other two to a safer location. Pai-Pai is a joke character. He is there for comedic effect and has done so successfully. She didn't make a decision because its stupid to do so without knowing what you're dealing with. Everyone assumes that Berg Katze wants to destroy the world just like everyone assumed the MESS were evil and wanted to harm humans. Perception doesn't always equal reality and instead of doing something stupid like making a rash decision, Hajime at least tried to ascertain Katze's nature and intentions and was able to get another clue out of him while saving her friends. I also don't think it is a coincidence that Hajime couldn't see Katze. Katze preys on the weaknesses of human hearts. I don't think it is a coincidence that the only character who couldn't see Katze was the one character who doesn't have such a weakness. Hajime... makes rush decisions all the time. She was the one who wanted Pai-Pai decide all the time on what to do next. She was one of the first ones who wanted to confront Berg Katze. She didn't know what she was dealing with when she "meet" the Mess either - Actually she was just lucky. She couldn't possibly predict what would happen when she showed the world that Gatchaman actually exist. Even if they try to imply in the anime she is actually really smart and thinks about all that stuff beforehand... this all doesn't makes any sense. And they don't know the real intentions of Berg Katze? It mentioned a few times that it wants the world to go up in big red blaze and the world shines the prettiest when it's destroyed. In the end of the conversations it even said it is not satisfied at all yet. It slowly plunges the world into chaos by all the little accidents it is causing. Aside from Pai-Pai and the other guy (forgot his name just now) mentioning it destroyed every planet it appeard on until now. It doesn't really seem like it's intentions are unclear... and even if there is another point to it all, it still rampages around killing innocent people, so yeah... And Hajime wouldn't stand a chance so she didn't fight, right? Again lucky for her Berg Katze stopped attacking for no reason and disappeared instead of just finishing off everybody. So it doesn't has anything to do with her being smart about it... just alot of lucky coincidence. Also about Pai-Pai... I didn't think it was funny, I think it was build up for then nothing happening at all. Maybe I have a little different taste in Anime but I like when characters finally take a stand for what is right. I don't like it over the top and all the time, but the amount of build up in this EP for the Gatchaman to finally make a move was just right... and in the end... good for Hajime that she somehow knew... she could stop Berg Katze by talking even though she never dealt with it before. It just completely trashed 3 people, kills innocents all the time... I would've bet that trying to fight it had a higher chance of success... than talking... But I must be not as smart as Hajime... |
DancingJackAug 24, 2013 8:44 AM
| "The fool who believed in miracles now walks among the dead." ~ Blade of the Phantom Master |
| Woah that unexpectedly dam brutal! Brilliant episode! Phew Joe survived but lost his Gatcha powers i guess :/(?) Hajime is really starting to interest me now Pai-Pai you... Jumped the score to an 8! |
AozureAug 24, 2013 10:08 AM
| cool episode , i had a feeling that pai pai will do that xD . looking forward for next episode ,, .. |
| -CnXaDi. |
| Miyano Mamoru did an amazing job during that scene that he was going berserk. He's insane laughing was just pleasing to hear for some reason. He kill the hundreds and beats the shit out of Rui. Joe got killed,shit.(Knew he was going to die but damn.) On a less important note Pai-Pai transformed but no cares about him,Berg Katze was the star of this episode. |
VarendantsAug 24, 2013 2:12 PM
Lil_Wayne said: It sounds to me like you want something very generic, straight-forward and imo boring in the anime you watch. You want your heroes and villains to be clearly established, to be static and generic with no motive or intention behind their actions ie I'm evil so I do bad things, and I'm good so I stop evil, and you of course want good to go and fight evil in physical confrontation with no thought at all. If you want something like that I suggest Bleach or Naruto (which aren't bad). However, that is not what this show is and that is not how this MC (Hajime) operates. To try and take everything at face value with her undermines her character a lot and understandably for you makes the show unenjoyable to watch. It sounds to me like you... didn't read my post at all, because I mentioned that exact point so you don't have to speculate about what kind of anime I like. So I don't have any intetions to seriously react to your post either. |
| "The fool who believed in miracles now walks among the dead." ~ Blade of the Phantom Master |
| Miyano Mamoru's performance as Berg-Katse... it was simply magnificent! The way his voice varied through the different conversations, the undertones, the accent, the pitch... it makes me feel all tingly inside <3 Coupled with the character itself and the way he plays with Jou and Rui... it makes for one hell of an experience, I'll add Gatchaman Crowds to my favourites just for that. Hajime is, of course, two-steps ahead of everyone, and is still as adorably wise as ever. All in all, best episode so far!! |
"Rejoice! We are humans— we are the most talented people! Precisely because we were born without any ability— we can achieve anything— this is the will of the weakest race!" – Sora, ‘No game No life Vol.01’ |
| Hajime's character is so interesting. Early on it was easy to mistake her attitude for stupidity or naivete, but it's just her demeanor and it hides a pretty keen understanding of things. Certainly not your typical Genki Girl character and I certainly appreciate it. This show really is quite a bit deeper than it seemed initially and I'm very happy. I will also echo the praise for Miyano's voice work and reiterate my love for Maaya Uchida's performance and her quirky Hajime affectations (Hajime'ssu!). Definitely a one-two punch of Seiyuu greatness. |
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| Holy shit. The confrontation between Hajime and Berg-Katze was priceless. Epic performance between the two seiyuus. Pai-pai wtf ? 10/5 episode! |
Fangz said: DancingJack said: Hajime... makes rush decisions all the time. She was the one who wanted Pai-Pai decide all the time on what to do next. She was one of the first ones who wanted to confront Berg Katze. She didn't know what she was dealing with when she "meet" the Mess either - Actually she was just lucky. She couldn't possibly predict what would happen when she showed the world that Gatchaman actually exist. Even if they try to imply in the anime she is actually really smart and thinks about all that stuff beforehand... this all doesn't makes any sense. And they don't know the real intentions of Berg Katze? It mentioned a few times that it wants the world to go up in big red blaze and the world shines the prettiest when it's destroyed. In the end of the conversations it even said it is not satisfied at all yet. It slowly plunges the world into chaos by all the little accidents it is causing. Aside from Pai-Pai and the other guy (forgot his name just now) mentioning it destroyed every planet it appeard on until now. It doesn't really seem like it's intentions are unclear... and even if there is another point to it all, it still rampages around killing innocent people, so yeah... And Hajime wouldn't stand a chance so she didn't fight, right? Again lucky for her Berg Katze stopped attacking for no reason and disappeared instead of just finishing off everybody. So it doesn't has anything to do with her being smart about it... just alot of lucky coincidence. Also about Pai-Pai... I didn't think it was funny, I think it was build up for then nothing happening at all. Maybe I have a little different taste in Anime but I like when characters finally take a stand for what is right. I don't like it over the top and all the time, but the amount of build up in this EP for the Gatchaman to finally make a move was just right... and in the end... good for Hajime that she somehow knew... she could stop Berg Katze by talking even though she never dealt with it before. It just completely trashed 3 people, kills innocents all the time... I would've bet that trying to fight it had a higher chance of success... than talking... But I must be not as smart as Hajime... You're silly. 1. Pai-pai made himself the leader. But while Jou is in the middle of fighting, he expresses the fear that Jou can't possibly win, thus revealing that he had been keeping secrets about Berg from the rest of the team. Then he's paralysed in indecision. Hajime is 100% correct in pushing him to make a decision, because sitting there, Jou was going to get killed. The other alternative was for Hajime and Utsuru to head off on their own, but Paiman deserves a chance to try to redeem himself. 2. She took a calculated risk when she dealt with the MESS, because she observed that the MESS was never pro-active in attacking, but rather simply responded to what was being done to it. Certainly she didn't know for sure what was going on, but she was smart enough to realise that shooting first and asking questions later is not the right way. She couldn't possibly predict exactly what would happen when she revealed Gatchaman existed, but again, this was a calculated risk, because this was the fastest way of getting in contact with Rui. Sometimes risks have to be taken, because if you don't make those decisions, the status quo is that the situation continues to worsen. It's no different to choosing to fight the bad guy knowing that you might lose - this is how Hajime chooses to 'fight'. 3. Even if Berg is evil, understanding it is still important. For example, the way that it attacks by taking advantage of other people's insecurities. Knowing that is important. It also loves to talk, and brag. Again, that helps. Only when you try to fight it, does it fight back with proportionate force. It doesn't just wipe out city blocks with tentacles, it only threw out the big stuff when Rui tried to use crowds on it. I mean, look at what Hajime knew about Berg: a. It's a Gatchaman. It did talk to Jou previously, and let him go unharmed, which means that at the very least it wants to ensure someone survives to carry off a message about what it's doing. b. Paiman thinks that all of the Gatchaman combined would be insufficient to fight it. c. The G-Crew is down to 2/6 combat capacity, and two members are unconscious and need to stabilised. d. Sugane tried to fight, and was effortlessly beaten down by BK the moment he attempts to transform. e. BK has not immediately attacked Hajime and Utsuru when they arrived, but decided instead to echo Utsuru's words. That means it can talk and understands what is being said. At a minimum, talking to Katze buys time for Utsuru to heal the rest of the team. Do you really think that trying to fight it would be the smart thing to do? If so, you're out of my D&D party. :p EDIT: Hajime doesn't know that Utsuru is doing a life force transfer. Kinda the problem with this team is all the secrets they keep from each other, but Hajime is trying to do her best. ^this person understands! Also Berg and Hajime's conversation may be more obvious if you keep in mind i) Hajime is trying to pump Berg for info. ii) Berg knows that Hajime is trying to pump him for info but wants to play along just to see her spirits crushed when she fails. iii) Hajime also knows that Berg will likely play along given his recurring pattern but it will give her a fighting chance rather than being utterly blind. In effect its 2 very smart people who has guessed each other's motives but one is supremely confident of his victory Oh and guessing it now. Hajime will take over JJ for Earth. The strong reaction (for JJ) when Hajime mentioned she saw something has always been stocking in my mind and with JJ's non reaction to all the Berg antics, thats what i'm guessing |
Zaku_FanAug 25, 2013 4:16 AM
| So I'm assuming Joe survived, then? That scene with Utsu-tsu and Hajime was sweet. Pai Pai is a shit leader lol and Hajime proves yet again why she's the best Gatchaman! :D |
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Baddie007 said: Poor Rui, she just got his ass whooped by Katze Berg, to add insult to injury some of her Galax users has to die since they serve as the crowds. Paipai's transformation????????Awesome but a drag since he's....or she is a pussy. HE not she.. confused me aswell :P Even though you said she got HIS ass whooped :P |
| Amazing episode. My favorite so far. Pai-Pai's transformation was awesome, but I still dislike him as a leader...... (maybe he is right when it comes to avoiding dangerous situations, but he needs to act and do something instead of running away) |
| And this episode proves why Hajime is my favorite character. Poor Joe though D: That must have hurt like a bitch. |
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Imosa said: What an ending. Way to not resolve anything after that fight. This, is a problem with this show. Yes, let's defeat the main antagonist halfway through the show just so we can say we resolved something. Way to miss the point. I think Paiman is a good statement on ineffectual leadership. He always defers to JJ and expects him to deliver the answer, then Paiman gets to be middleman and pass along the orders, but that's it. When he does try to take initiative he can't follow through. But at least he's cute and cuddly so nobody will blame him for being useless. Usually super genki characters get annoying, but I can't help but like Hajime's subtle airheaded brand of wisdom. Her reaction to random people on the Internet talking about her was perfect. |
JOHJAug 25, 2013 7:36 PM
| Wow, that fight was fucking amazing. Hajime and Katze talking to each other was just great to listen to. |
| Mamoru really outplayed himself this time, what a great performance. Berg-Katze is really bizarre and creepy. I'm glad Joe isn't dead. Also, I kinda lol'd at Berg-Katze talking to Hajime, they are unexpectedly in sync. I want to see O.D's tranformation so bad. Koybz said: OST in less than a week. Can't wait. Me too. |
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| Berg-katze is way too strong.... |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Best episode so far. Miyano was made for that role, you can sense him having fun going wild acing the character, hearing him mimic the gatchaman was a delight. Both Hajime and Katze seem to be on the same wave-length. I think Hajime is, although somewhat annoying, is a very interesting character. I don't like to be around such characters irl but I can handle them popping once a decade in an anime. On the other hand OD is gradually growing on me, I liked him at first but now he seems more interesting with all the mystery around his wings that shouldn't be spread. We saw a glimpse of Joe's inner feelings and thoughts, he's not really secure or confident as he shows and thinks, that is pretty interesting. Seeing his bird go in flames couple of times yet still managing to survive reminds me of a phoenix. |
TunpaAug 28, 2013 9:35 AM
| The chat Hajime had with Katze was super awesome xD I just love her so much. |
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Hybridbloodszak said: I can't get enough of it..he's gotta be having a blast with it.Mamoru Miyano's performance as Berg Katze!! WOW!!!! |
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Crazy awesome episode |
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| As everyone said, Katze/Mamoru was just awe~some! <3 Hajime? Stunning, as always! *giggles* LUV! <3 Well poor Rin-Rin and Joe... (I don't forget the CROWDS too) There's still a long way to go~ at least Rin-Rin said/did something. Nothing to say about Pai-Pai's escape (=w=) *lol* Can't wait to see Katze's real form (*w*) |
45Ravager said: I do wonder what is the sweetest thing that every human loves. Death i presume. |
| awesome episode :3 damn rui rui get beaten by that haired guy.. and damn he is kissing jou -san -_- and btw.. I hope jou-san hasn't die yet :/ and shocing truth.. :3 that note is on the body? :o |
| Even if Hajime is sad it seems like she is happy. I really love that :D |
| Okay that was an awesome episode. Finally Hajime and Katze met. They are going to be epic later on. Also Pai-Pai is absolutely pathetic. |
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| 06:50 so they died? 14:48 dat lil panda transform into a big monster gacchaman~ gacchaman~ Jousan daijoubu kana? Mata henshin dekiru no ka? |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| Crazy ep. It did get really dark this episode. Kind of scary. Katze just went full out, ruthlessly destroying Rui and killing The Hundred instantly. And that kiss he gave Jou made me feel so violated... And the ripping out of Jou's note was so violent and painful. Intense shit. I have a theory for OD. He seemed to know about Katze and he never uses his power and hes mysterious. Maybe his note had been pulled out by Katze too and his powers have an evil side to it just like Rui and thats why he wont transform? idk |
| Slaine did nothing wrong. |
| Also Pai Pai whining to JJ was cute |
| Slaine did nothing wrong. |
| pretty sure pai got kissed before too, and got trauma-ed hard |
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| That's some serious ride! Quite lovely development, there's a slight but great buildup happening here! Lets see what's next! |
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