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| Light showing his face at the moment the FBI was dying he was like rubbing it to the FBI's Face and finally L will be showing his face. |
To those watching the anime and reaching this episode discussion, which side are you on? L or Light? Light FTW. I don't like that he kills innocent people but I totally agree with him killing murderers. Like seriously, if you can't respect somebody's life, then you shouldn't be allowed to have one. |
| He is not thinking of everything, everyone has a family, I'm sad that he chose to kill Ray, but he should know that someone was close enough to those FBI agents to want revenge for their deaths. In this case that woman. Or maybe he was expecting this? We shall see. |
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ClementIV said: Veethorn said: I didn't know it was possible for an anime to be this good, not looking into art, animation, sound or music (which are all pretty good as well and contribute to the quality of this anime). To those watching the anime and reaching this episode discussion, which side are you on? L or Light? Go L, catch that guy. I'm more on Light's side but L has my full support as well. The ending will turn out to be most interesting if either side wins. supporting both sides equally seems a bit odd, but its hard not to in this show huh |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| it's really scary how cunning he is. but power changes people, power makes people show their true colours. that's why he's not only killing criminals/bad people, but also people who could be a threat to him/could come behind his secret. and that is not justice at all. |
mitch3315 said: Sasuke and Naruto kissed, show is obviously hardcore yaoi. |
| It was a good episode. I feel bad for Rey too and he was so close to working it out. L is finally coming out of the shadows. |
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| That was fuckin' amazin' and Light is a fuckin' bastard. Here comes L |
ToG25thBaamMar 26, 2014 3:40 AM
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| I feel bad for Rey's death as well. I kinda hoped he would stay alive. Wonder what his girlfriend's up to, will she find out who Kira is... and what then? Hmm... I'm also curious to find out what L's intentions for assembling those policemen are. Looking forward to the next episode |
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| Light is such a genius...like me :3 |
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| i dont care for light... |
| "L, do you know gods of death love apples." rofl Light continues yet to remind me of Lelouch. I'd prefer to see Light only target criminals and refuse to kill anybody who is "innocent," but it seems clear that won't happen now more than ever. |
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| Now that Ray's wife is in the case. poor thing |
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Ignes said: gswelcome said: meh, i didn't like Ray anyway, he was a sexist pig, telling his wife she'd forget all about being an agent (a job he made her quit) when she'd be so "busy" with the kids they'd have. good riddance My thoughts exactly. Kinda liked his character up to that point, but this knocked him down big time. And she even smiled when he said it, come on! But it is nice that another set of brains will join the hunt. I believe what raye really means is not his fiance should stay out of this case bcuz she's a woman, he means that now they r gonna marry, he doesnt want her to get involved in dangerous cases like this, since Kira kills anyone who oppose to him. Raye wanna protect his fiance. He's not a sexist. |
| So yeah, he had something on his mind and didn't want to kill him out of obstinacy as people thought. He used him and got rid him, and put time between their first encounter too. But now he has Ray's girlfriend who apparently more capable of seeing through things than Ray on his tail... |
   “There are two kinds of arrogance. One where you are unequal to the task and one where your dreams are too big. The former is commonplace stupidity... but the latter is a rare species that is difficult to find.”  |
| Good episode. 5/5 |
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| Reys girlfriend will be a problem for Light. Or the next to die. L finally comes out. I am curious to know how this will end. |
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| Rewatching Death Note I'm picking up on so many details I don't remember from my first time watching it. Let's see what Ray's girlfriend will do now, that'll be interesting... |
| Ray seemed so innocent :v |
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| This is why Light is one of the most likable antihero ever. 5/5 |
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| Poor Ray ;-( Light is a little bit unlikable even with his genius. |
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| Outstanding episode |
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Blutspender said: So he DID kill Ray, but in a kind of way, L does still not know who he is. He is genius, but L is too, so we will see a Brain-Battle now. Btw, it is interesting, how this is hundreds of times more exciting than any action film or series. I really love these "thinking" series. I agree a 100% with you, it never gets boring. You just have to think all the time while you're watching and it's so great! Too bad he killed Ray, but I guess he had to? In some sense anyway. Of course it's morally wrong to kill people. I really like how the series is experimenting with morals, empathy and everything we understand to be correct. I like how it makes us think about what is really ''right''. But the answer is probably obvious, each person has a different view on ''what is correct'' or ''good'', whereas no one can really say anything for certain. Therefor I think that the correct answer does not exist, there are only individual opinions. Well it did seem rather selfish when Light killed those FBI agents, but damn he's a genius. I didn't realize he used Death Note paper. I love the way he's experimenting with the Death Note, it's so exciting. I don't hate Light now, I still find him very interesting and can't wait to see what he does next. Sure he's somewhat became an anti-hero, but it doesn't bother me, rather it gets me more and more interested on the whole concept and makes me wonder what he's thinking. For me it's all so interesting.. Either way I didn't see much coming this episode (besides the death of Ray) and it was a really good one. I wonder how this anime will turn out |
jinxiecanJan 15, 2016 12:42 PM
| ''One is enough, find someone completely unique'' -Yato ''You can't feel lonely if there's no one else around'' -Yamaken ''Because it's broken, it will never recover'' -Nanami |
Darkbloom said: But then again, who are we to pass judgement on other human beings? Should we really have the right to?To those watching the anime and reaching this episode discussion, which side are you on? L or Light? Light FTW. I don't like that he kills innocent people but I totally agree with him killing murderers. Like seriously, if you can't respect somebody's life, then you shouldn't be allowed to have one. Which is exactly what this anime focuses on and it's just amazing. Zadion said: That was so hilarious xD Nice one Light :D"L, do you know gods of death love apples." rofl |
| ''One is enough, find someone completely unique'' -Yato ''You can't feel lonely if there's no one else around'' -Yamaken ''Because it's broken, it will never recover'' -Nanami |
jinxiecan said: Darkbloom said: But then again, who are we to pass judgement on other human beings? Should we really have the right to?Light FTW. I don't like that he kills innocent people but I totally agree with him killing murderers. Like seriously, if you can't respect somebody's life, then you shouldn't be allowed to have one. Which is exactly what this anime focuses on and it's just amazing. I do think so. Is that, afterall, how it is done in real life also? If a human being does not pass judgment on someone else, who will? I guess it is indeed rather a matter of who passes down the judgment for said crime, action, or whatever. If we compare this to what happens in Death Note as in with Light, of course it's completely messed up. Because Light possesses little-to-none knowledge on circumstances of all criminals yet he merely kills them based on police records without exception, therefore there's a high chance that he also killed the wrongly convicted. |
“There are two kinds of arrogance. One where you are unequal to the task and one where your dreams are too big. The former is commonplace stupidity... but the latter is a rare species that is difficult to find.” |
Nozdref said: In life there is death, so that is completely normal. But a human being passing down judgement on another seems a little wrong since we all have our individual standards and views. Some would kill (for example) criminals with little to no doubt at all, while some would evaluate the decision more precisely. This rises the question of ''Who is truly correct?''. We would all take the situation from our point of view, meaning that there is no correct answer. I do think so. Is that, afterall, how it is done in real life also? If a human being does not pass judgment on someone else, who will? I guess it is indeed rather a matter of who passes down the judgment for said crime, action, or whatever. If we compare this to what happens in Death Note as in with Light, of course it's completely messed up. Because Light possesses little-to-none knowledge on circumstances of all criminals yet he merely kills them based on police records without exception, therefore there's a high chance that he also killed the wrongly convicted. But then again, if none of the humans would be allowed to 'kill' others, would our sense of justice be somewhat dulled? Someone has to decide, right? And plenty of people seem to think that they know what is right. But in reality, none of us know. We all live in our own world, in our own illusion even. Our society has created norms and boundaries, but those are only fictional so to speak. In reality nothing is solid and can not be deemed as either 'wrong' or 'right'. And if we think about it from another angle, maybe the only one who is really permitted to decide on life or death is the one who originally gave life. Maybe the only one who should say if it's gone too far would be the one who gave birth to that person. But then again there might be some factors that would influence that decision (which wouldn't be considered fair judgement). Throwing around some thoughts here, since I have multiple views on the subject. But I am still not certain what would be right. We know what should be 'considered' right, but is there really a right choice? This can be addressed from various angles, I mostly focused on criminals and punishing them (as this is mainly the theme of Death Note). |
| ''One is enough, find someone completely unique'' -Yato ''You can't feel lonely if there's no one else around'' -Yamaken ''Because it's broken, it will never recover'' -Nanami |
jinxiecan said: Nozdref said: In life there is death, so that is completely normal. But a human being passing down judgement on another seems a little wrong since we all have our individual standards and views. Some would kill (for example) criminals with little to no doubt at all, while some would evaluate the decision more precisely. This rises the question of ''Who is truly correct?''. We would all take the situation from our point of view, meaning that there is no correct answer. I do think so. Is that, afterall, how it is done in real life also? If a human being does not pass judgment on someone else, who will? I guess it is indeed rather a matter of who passes down the judgment for said crime, action, or whatever. If we compare this to what happens in Death Note as in with Light, of course it's completely messed up. Because Light possesses little-to-none knowledge on circumstances of all criminals yet he merely kills them based on police records without exception, therefore there's a high chance that he also killed the wrongly convicted. But then again, if none of the humans would be allowed to 'kill' others, would our sense of justice be somewhat dulled? Someone has to decide, right? And plenty of people seem to think that they know what is right. But in reality, none of us know. We all live in our own world, in our own illusion even. Our society has created norms and boundaries, but those are only fictional so to speak. In reality nothing is solid and can not be deemed as either 'wrong' or 'right'. And if we think about it from another angle, maybe the only one who is really permitted to decide on life or death is the one who originally gave life. Maybe the only one who should say if it's gone too far would be the one who gave birth to that person. But then again there might be some factors that would influence that decision (which wouldn't be considered fair judgement). Throwing around some thoughts here, since I have multiple views on the subject. But I am still not certain what would be right. We know what should be 'considered' right, but is there really a right choice? This can be addressed from various angles, I mostly focused on criminals and punishing them (as this is mainly the theme of Death Note). Yes, we all have our individual standarts. The answer to the question “Who is truly correct?” is: None else. None else is truly correct. As you said, some would kill criminals with little-to-none doubt, and some would evaluate the decision more precisely. While we are unable to comply with “absolute justice,” I believe what humanity should do (and actually is currently doing) is to distinguish those able to evaluate decisions as precise as they can. Perhaps they don’t number too much, but that’s the best we can do. Things just can’t be left without a proper judgment and only we are able to do that. If no human being does the judgment doesn't that mean a criminal just could get away with the crime? While there’s also small kind of justice or judgment in flow of life, it is just small and unstable. For example if you unfairly obtain something by betraying or damaging a number of people, you gain their hostility and might be eventually subject of their retribution. "Every action has a reaction" principle, in other words. That of course, assuming there’s no ultimate judgment in afterlife (supposing it exists). It’s very uncertain and controversial subject, a complete mystery that we are unable to know and therefore unable to rely on, unfortunately. |
“There are two kinds of arrogance. One where you are unequal to the task and one where your dreams are too big. The former is commonplace stupidity... but the latter is a rare species that is difficult to find.” |
Nozdref said: I guess humanity is giving this it's best shot. Considering our society and way of life this is currently the best option I presume. But it still bothers me that there actually is no right or wrong. And I could wonder about that for hours. Yes, we all have our individual standarts. The answer to the question “Who is truly correct?” is: None else. None else is truly correct. As you said, some would kill criminals with little-to-none doubt, and some would evaluate the decision more precisely. While we are unable to comply with “absolute justice,” I believe what humanity should do (and actually is currently doing) is to distinguish those able to evaluate decisions as precise as they can. Perhaps they don’t number too much, but that’s the best we can do. Things just can’t be left without a proper judgment and only we are able to do that. If no human being does the judgment doesn't that mean a criminal just could get away with the crime? While there’s also small kind of justice or judgment in flow of life, it is just small and unstable. For example if you unfairly obtain something by betraying or damaging a number of people, you gain their hostility and might be eventually subject of their retribution. "Every action has a reaction" principle, in other words. That of course, assuming there’s no ultimate judgment in afterlife (supposing it exists). It’s very uncertain and controversial subject, a complete mystery that we are unable to know and therefore unable to rely on, unfortunately. I do agree with that, someone has to decide. And the most humane way to do that is to have laws and people who make sure that the laws are followed. And for those who discard laws, there would be punishments. This is a system that has been proved to work quite efficiently. Tho it hasn't been known to reduce crime. Then again there will probably always be crime and 'evil'. A world where each person would be responsible for their own judgement and actions would probably be too chaotic and 'unfair', so our current system seems to be the most optimal way of life. Although it can also not be the most optimal... but we don't know that, do we? The most unsettling of all has to be our lack of knowledge. We only know what we've experienced and learned from the past, we don't know what other possibilities there might be. This stands true for the concept of afterlife as well, we can't possibly say whether this is something real. It's a true guessing game filled with complete mystery. Which is one of the reasons why life is so compelling and interesting, but at the same time frustrating as well. At the very least we don't get bored! |
| ''One is enough, find someone completely unique'' -Yato ''You can't feel lonely if there's no one else around'' -Yamaken ''Because it's broken, it will never recover'' -Nanami |
jinxiecan said: Nozdref said: I guess humanity is giving this it's best shot. Considering our society and way of life this is currently the best option I presume. But it still bothers me that there actually is no right or wrong. And I could wonder about that for hours. Yes, we all have our individual standarts. The answer to the question “Who is truly correct?” is: None else. None else is truly correct. As you said, some would kill criminals with little-to-none doubt, and some would evaluate the decision more precisely. While we are unable to comply with “absolute justice,” I believe what humanity should do (and actually is currently doing) is to distinguish those able to evaluate decisions as precise as they can. Perhaps they don’t number too much, but that’s the best we can do. Things just can’t be left without a proper judgment and only we are able to do that. If no human being does the judgment doesn't that mean a criminal just could get away with the crime? While there’s also small kind of justice or judgment in flow of life, it is just small and unstable. For example if you unfairly obtain something by betraying or damaging a number of people, you gain their hostility and might be eventually subject of their retribution. "Every action has a reaction" principle, in other words. That of course, assuming there’s no ultimate judgment in afterlife (supposing it exists). It’s very uncertain and controversial subject, a complete mystery that we are unable to know and therefore unable to rely on, unfortunately. I do agree with that, someone has to decide. And the most humane way to do that is to have laws and people who make sure that the laws are followed. And for those who discard laws, there would be punishments. This is a system that has been proved to work quite efficiently. Tho it hasn't been known to reduce crime. Then again there will probably always be crime and 'evil'. A world where each person would be responsible for their own judgement and actions would probably be too chaotic and 'unfair', so our current system seems to be the most optimal way of life. Although it can also not be the most optimal... but we don't know that, do we? The most unsettling of all has to be our lack of knowledge. We only know what we've experienced and learned from the past, we don't know what other possibilities there might be. This stands true for the concept of afterlife as well, we can't possibly say whether this is something real. It's a true guessing game filled with complete mystery. Which is one of the reasons why life is so compelling and interesting, but at the same time frustrating as well. At the very least we don't get bored! Pretty much. I'm glad you get my point! The last paragraph is also what I was going to add actually. What we currently set is result of evolution of principles that has been overlapping for centuries. Perhaps if it was set differently from the most earliest point (ancient stages of human being) it (the core/dogmas of living) would've been different and we would be living differently even today. But as what it currently stands, I personally have no complaints about our current way of living. :d |
“There are two kinds of arrogance. One where you are unequal to the task and one where your dreams are too big. The former is commonplace stupidity... but the latter is a rare species that is difficult to find.” |
| The scene in the bus was very clever. Great move to make Ryuk part of his plan by let the hijjacker touch that piece of paper. Light is smart. But he IS a unscrupulous serial killer now when he starts killing 'innocent' people. |
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| So Raye Penber was killed by Light. I hope Light realizes that what he's doing is wrong. Killing innocent people like that makes him look more like a murderer than someone who actually wants to do something good for the world. |
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| OOOH Might find out finally who L is,but maybe just as a person n not the name, but who knows.. Great episode, love the idea of have Raye kill everyone that was coming from FBI, nice idea, Smartkid there xD Lets find out about our mistory person.. |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
| To be honest, I'm usually not bothered by anti-heroes who go too far for their ideals (Lelouch, Obito, etc.). However, Light really pissed me off by doing this shit. I heard that a lot people don't like him and now I start to know why. He's supposed to fight for justice, but all he's done was putting his best effort to kill those good guys just because they stood in his way. I know he must have killed more criminals off screen, but still. |
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| "Goodbye Raye Penber" Such a badass scene!!! |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| I was starting to like this Penber, too bad. Killing him was Light biggest mistake. This angry woman who lost her beloved man wants vengeance and is gonna get Light ;o I am still wondering who got second diary? Maybe some mafia boss who terrorizes his criminals? Then Light would somehow kill him but the second diary would be taken by new person and so the fight continues. Anyway this is nicely made anime so far, but I am still not sure how to rate it. |
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
| It was completely badass for Light to show himself to Raye as he was dying, aha. |
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| Light I know ur smart that's why u killed all of them at once. I guess Light give Raye Penber a reward before he killed him for doing him a favor by revealing who Kira is. Unfortunately one of the FBI Agent had a girlfriend and will now join the party, Light is unlucky to be stalked by the FBI agent that had a girlfriend. What if all the other FBI Agent had a girlfriend? That horde of a girlfriend will blame who their lover is stalking and Kira is more unknown than ever. Since only Raye Penber of all the FBI agent who had a girlfriend, this girlfriend will blame Light for her lover's death. Oh boy, if that girlfriend match who Raye is investigating with the all passengers in the train at that time, surely Light will be a spotlight. Light, if u wanna conceal urself more u should act just like ur mother or sister, the way he's acting cause suspicion on his father's view Light might end up using his father as a tool to kill L, as he just eliminate all in his way |
Kish0Feb 2, 2019 8:53 AM
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| sad episode, I liked rey :( |
| I am not a weeb, I simply enjoy 2D girls |
| So Light killed the agent and all the rest of the FBI squad, but they weren't criminals! This could hardly be justified. I hope L catches the little brat. Seeing Naomim mourning his fiancee was heartbreaking. At least she seems more capable of catching Light. |
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| ah i forgot about naomi, but now that i see her again i remember that i liked her. |
| things are getting interesting now~~ |
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| Light was always a criminal but this episode was really where he turned from sadistic savior to straight up mass murderer, as he executed people who are involved with trying to hunt his real identity down who generally protect the world as their jobs, like with Ray being an FBI agent this time around being used and murdered right after leaving the train. He lost his morality a while back but this was more of the stamp on that officially, that he's become so obsessed and intoxicated with the cat and mouse game and the powers of the Death Note, that he's lost the concept of reality and the initial reason for why he would even use it in the first place other than the intrigue factor. L also about to seemingly reveal himself too to the colleagues of the force who are willing to fight for justice regardless of what actually happens to their lives. Pretty intense stuff again as a whole, and consistent with the tone of the show as always. I do like how unlikable and hypocritical Light is, makes Ohba's intentions with writing the story for the manga to be pretty damn interesting and exciting compared to the Jump formula that most manga followed back then, and to a degree, even now. Even with characters that lack humanity and reliability and a sense of inspiration unlike most shounen MCs, the thrill and addiction of the cat and mouse again, makes the ride still really enjoyable so far while making the characters feel a lot more fascinating in the process too. |
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