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Aug 21, 2011 7:20 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I found Enichi as follows,

to be rather way too confident about marriage. Whoa there buddy, there is a whole inn in play not to mention other elements than your full love for that women.

It was really nostalgic the following,

Sui and her husband were very good people. Gentle and kind. Assertive. The way the husband named the inn and all. Wow! Really good directing on that segment. The insert song was terrific! I felt nostalgia.

  • Well that was quite the fan service in the bath brawl in the spoiler
    and I would never want to mess with Minko when she has such a angry face like here. Well for a first Minko naked sideways gave out some more contours, which look really good. Minko is really in tip top physical shape.
Tooru is a fucking idiot to mention the name of Ohana. Seriously! I *face-palmed* when he said it with a “Oh WTF did you do Tooru?” As such I liked how the episode progressed. More later.

BTW image assemblies that I messed around with in the spoiler
Sui's shrine is nice on the big plan and the symbol too.
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Aug 21, 2011 7:30 AM
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Enishi = Anything... lol~

Nice story about the young boss and how the name of inn came from.

From the title, Minko might do something about her one-sided love next ep. (confess?)
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Aug 21, 2011 7:55 AM
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From the title, Minko might do something about her one-sided love next ep. (confess?)
YES! Please do so after that fight in the bath, I think motivation should not be a issue at all. Minko needs to tell Tooru's brain to fuck off from thinking about Ohana and best way for that is communicate it verbally that he belongs to Minko only.

Forced kiss or something like that?

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Aug 21, 2011 8:31 AM
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I'm more interested in what Minko will do next episode but it was nice to see the two go for a marriage even though it's hitting a rough part.
Aug 21, 2011 9:05 AM
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Well it's cute that they are going to be married, but I'm most excited about how the relationship between Tooru and Minko will turn out. I really want them together<3
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Aug 21, 2011 9:06 AM
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minko granted my wish. a fight in the bath. i wanted some slaps though. i thought minko will confess when she was alone with tohru but anyway, i hope it will happen in next episode.
Aug 21, 2011 9:11 AM
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I just hope my fears won't come true and Tohru falls for Minko. I'd be so, so disappointed if it happened. The way things are going, I think there is a big chance of it happening, though.
Aug 21, 2011 9:25 AM
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Title: Rebirth of Die

The first part of the anime was great, it's not Ohana fault, that's her personality.
Minko shouldn't blame Ohana, she should blame herself that she don't have courage to confessed to Tohru, anyway next episode she probably get motivated and confessed.

I guess the title came when Minko said Die again to Ohana.


Next Episode:

Title: A Determined One-Side Crush

Yup the title said it all
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Aug 21, 2011 9:28 AM
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My chest hurts. That was so deep and emotional, what a rollercoaster. Certainly the BEST episode of the series.

Notable moments:
-When Minko thought Tohru was taking her to a hotel and was freaking out. Actually I freaked for a second there too. (wait is he?) but no, the moment on the beach was great, until he brought up Ohana. Minko, I love you, even if Tohru is an idiot!
-Seems Ren-san has known for a loooong time that Minko liked Tohru, granted he's older/wiser/knows more about the world... Speaking about Ren, when do we get his backstory!!!
-Tomoe was great, and she opened her eyes to another romantic possibility because of natto? Well, whatever floats your boat. I like how Ren some how felt her change of mood and that she was giving him "the eye". (not a bad match, he's right there, single, has a stable job, and it would be easy to get to know him. He's 14 years older (28 vs. 42) but she could do much worse. And as long as the two of them can still have kids her parents will be happy. Ok... I have spent WAAAY too much time on this topic.
-The fight in the bath was hardly fanservice, I spent the whole time shuddering as my heart was wrenched to pieces. I love you Minchi! She is hurting so much.
-Oh... and apparently this episode was about Takako and Enishi, so I should probably say something... Takako is going to be a dom? Sorry I really don't care about those two at all, but Takako was a little more likable in this episode. I still hate Enishi.
-Jiroumou is a pervert and I want to stab his lecherous eyes from his skull. Poor Nako.
-Looking forward to what the dress will look like.
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AstuteOtaku said:
-The fight in the bath was hardly fanservice, I spent the whole time shuddering as my heart was wrenched to pieces. I love you Minchi! She is hurting so much.
Yeah I like her too but you can't deny seeing delicious female flesh is not fan service. Clearly natural and nothing sexually provoking but still fan service but the point of its EPICness is of course that there was a fight, should have been extended.

Yeah they should do that in the BDs/DVDs as I have seen some having extra scenes added.

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Aug 21, 2011 10:14 AM

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great episode, lol'd when minchi thought tohru was gonna take her to the hotel!! XD

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Yeah I like her too but you can't deny seeing delicious female flesh is not fan service.


true, it just made the scene... more intense!
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Can we just get to the Ohana x Nako lesbian end?
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Aug 21, 2011 10:19 AM

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I'm starting to like Takako now. Madam Manager is the ultimate troll lol.

I was also starting to like Minko now, but then this happened and I never felt such intense hatred since Yukiatsu and Jinta from Ano Hana. D<

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AstuteOtaku said:
-When Minko thought Tohru was taking her to a hotel and was freaking out. Actually I freaked for a second there too. (wait is he?) but no, the moment on the beach was great, until he brought up Ohana. Minko, I love you, even if Tohru is an idiot!

Agreed. Minchi was being herself and Tohru had to be the dense motherfucker. I wonder what would have happened if he had kept his mouth shut. I think we are gonna find out next week because Minko will probably confess to him. She said she wouldn't let him go anymore.
Also, the funny thing is that Tohru described Nako's life as "perfect for him". She is the one handling tons of noisy kids.
Anyway the episode was pretty good and boy I still don't like Takako. There's something about her that makes me rage everytime I see her on the screen.

I think Tomoe will fight over the bouquet and I kinda like the idea of her and Ren.
Aug 21, 2011 10:33 AM

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Ha, Takako at the end. "Whaaa?!"

And, I love Minchi but seriously she's got to stop being such a bitch all the time XD
Aug 21, 2011 10:39 AM

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Nice episode: it had a lot of drama and some comic parts. I loled at the expressions of the 2 girls while Ohana was sewing and the shivers felt by Renji when Masako was thinking about marrying him .. :D . Also Minko's reaction at the sight of the "love hotel"' and Tohru's totally bad timing :)) .
I'm glad for Takako and Einishi's (lol at "anything") plans of marriage. It was nice to see a little from Madam's past and how Kissuiso came to life.
The arguing between Ohana and Minko was bound to happen sooner or later. I can understand Minko's feelings, esp. after she worked so hard to gain Tohru's attention and then a newcomer comes and steals him. It not very fair from her point of view. But I also can't blame Ohana or even Tohru for being a little insensitive. I'm really curious what will happen next, if Minko does something about it.
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Now that....that was some major fan service. Fighting in the bath was just too much.

I totally didn't get emotionally during the end and then Okami totally killed it. Nope I did not.

Aug 21, 2011 11:09 AM
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loved the episode however I am torn whether to hate Minchi/Minko for how she acted or sympathise, I'm sure many female viewers would sympathise with her, but theres also nothing more annoying than an overly jealous person taking their frustrations out on someone who hasn't conciously done anything wrong, whilst her reaction is human (as in realistic) it's still very annoying to watch.

What's this business about Tohru being stupid and dense, they have a WORKING relationship in his mind, she hasn't done anything that would truly peak his interest in regards to going out or her having something more than a student/teacher feelings for him, lot's of people call Tohru stupid or an idiot but it can be hard to tell if someone likes you, especially when you believe you only have a certain form of relationship with them, I understand Tohru because I've been in his situation (as in the not understanding that someone likes me or realising it) so it annoys me when people call him an idiot, though someone of his actions could be classed as idiotic such as the hotel scene, but once again why would he think anything different, he doesnt know she has feelings for him, and he most likely doesnt have feelings for her at the moment (that doesn't mean he can't develop some though).

Question to all those who claim Minko has tried so hard, what is it that she has done that gives you such an impression? From what i've seen she's basically just been kind, sometimes blushed, sure she's been having a hard TIME over it, but her efforts aren't anything spectacular, lackluster instead would be the best way to put it, I mean think of that bookstore girl who likes Kou, she clearly knows what she wants and she's really tried, she confessed and everything, now compare that to Minko.

Hmm I don't really like Takako or Enishi, but I did feel a slight tingle of warmth from Sui talking with Takako, but then she trolls them telling Takako she isn't inheriting the Inn.

Ohana is a god(dess) with a needle and thread! so poised, so accurate.... so confused, poor girl.

Poor Ren as well, he feels the chill down his spine from Tomoe's look, though strangely enough I don't have much against the pairing, I like Tomoe so I'd like her to be happy.

Good episode 5/5, and I hope Minko and Tohru can get the whole crush business out of the way, don't care how it ends, though I don't see Tohru accepting it instantly, I want the girls to be friends again too!

(P.S. anyone with Yuri goggles on should have noticed Mizuno and Nako blush in unison when Yuina mentioned the red curtains being kind of erotic!)


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Mark my words

Nobody will end up together,tohruXOhanaXMinko triangle will end up with no pairings formed and Ohana still won't end up with Ko.
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totoum said:
Mark my words

Nobody will end up together,tohruXOhanaXMinko triangle will and up with no pairings formed and Ohana still won't end up Ko.


Probably so, but some shippers can dream, I on the other hand am not interested in pairings in this anymore


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Probably so, but some shippers can dream, I on the other hand am not interested in pairings in this anymore


I personaly am more interested in the family relationships between GrandmaXMomXUncleXDaughter and to me the cliffhanger indicates this is really what this anime is about.
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loved the episode however I am torn whether to hate Minchi/Minko for how she acted or sympathise, I'm sure many female viewers would sympathise with her, but theres also nothing more annoying than an overly jealous person taking their frustrations out on someone who hasn't conciously done anything wrong, whilst her reaction is human (as in realistic) it's still very annoying to watch.

What's this business about Tohru being stupid and dense, they have a WORKING relationship in his mind, she hasn't done anything that would truly peak his interest in regards to going out or her having something more than a student/teacher feelings for him, lot's of people call Tohru stupid or an idiot but it can be hard to tell if someone likes you, especially when you believe you only have a certain form of relationship with them, I understand Tohru because I've been in his situation (as in the not understanding that someone likes me or realising it) so it annoys me when people call him an idiot, though someone of his actions could be classed as idiotic such as the hotel scene, but once again why would he think anything different, he doesnt know she has feelings for him, and he most likely doesnt have feelings for her at the moment (that doesn't mean he can't develop some though).

Question to all those who claim Minko has tried so hard, what is it that she has done that gives you such an impression? From what i've seen she's basically just been kind, sometimes blushed, sure she's been having a hard TIME over it, but her efforts aren't anything spectacular, lackluster instead would be the best way to put it, I mean think of that bookstore girl who likes Kou, she clearly knows what she wants and she's really tried, she confessed and everything, now compare that to Minko.

Ohana is a god(dess) with a needle and thread! so poised, so accurate.... so confused, poor girl.


I can't explain it better!
I can't understand those who blame Tooru!
As you said, Tooru don't know that Minchi loves him! And he can't imagine that a high school girl with whom he works can be in love with him!

Trivia : Sui was a waitress and her husband was a chef! Is it a sign ?

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Nobody will end up together,tohruXOhanaXMinko triangle will end up with no pairings formed and Ohana still won't end up with Ko.


I think too but who knows ...
Aug 21, 2011 12:20 PM

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Goodness gracious! This girl's so oblivious to her surroundings that I think I'll get pregnant by her bird brain and its gooey liquid...

Eh... The couples were pretty much set, predictable as heck but whatever, probably several milleniums before I can see something like True Tears of Ichigo 100% again so shouldn't expect too much... The only undecided one is Nako and that's where I shall place my last hope for a Mr. Bean x Nako ending... Go Mr. Bean!!! Feel her up with yer Phoca vitulina whiskers!!!

I always like Okami's character and most of her realistic personal beliefs so once again, props to her for providing the only touching moment in this entire series thus far...

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but theres also nothing more annoying than an overly jealous person taking their frustrations out on someone who hasn't conciously done anything wrong.


Uh huh... There's absolutely nothing wrong for being dumb and further adding oil to the flame... Or she simply is a trolling master, adept at consuming people's RAGE...

Still, instead of feeding the troll, Minko should rather work on her Tohru conquest so her stupidity is to blame there too & LOL @ all the "Tohru is a dumbass fucker blablabla" Suddenly, soooo many feminists... EVERYWHERE!!! How can he be dumb if the girl in question hasn't done anything worth to be considered as being romantically interested in him? Because she was constantly blushing around him? What if she was holding her urination urge and thus is the causality of such blushing? Hurr Durr...



If he's not with us, he's AGAINST us!!!

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Still, instead of feeding the troll, Minko should rather work on her Tohru conquest so her stupidity is to blame there too & LOL @ all the "Tohru is a dumbass fucker blablabla" Suddenly, soooo many feminists... EVERYWHERE!!! How can he be dumb if the girl in question hasn't done anything worth to be considered as being romantically interested in him? Because she was constantly blushing around him? What if she was holding her urination urge and thus is the causality of such blushing? Hurr Durr...


Hahaha :P that's quite true what you said, it's true Tohru isn't dumb, Minchi is just too quiet and won't confess, the guy has done nothing wrong, it's just shippers sympathising with the girl, in the end people will be pissed if Tohru rejects her and call him stupid again, poor guy can't get a break :(

Ohana -Trollmaster- Matsumae, though she isn't no troll, since she doesn't incite rage in everyone, just jealous girls.... because Ohana accidently stole their love interest 0.o


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I wonder what Ohana thinks... about Tohru. She seems to finally be considering Tohru's feelings for her, and she seems to be flustered. I expected her to just ignore it and push Minko and Tohru together... but she seems pretty shaken up.

I'd rather see Ohana x Tohru together personally... they compliment each other and Tohru seems to enjoy her company... because Minchi is acting spoiled and more like a little brat then I took her for. I understand loving someone who's into someone else SUCKS... I've been there... but getting violent and being a bitch doesn't make me think you're even 1/2 ready for a relationship. And Ko..? Ugh. He's soo boring...

I feel like despite my feelings, this show will probably end up being predictable: Ohana x Ko , Minchi x Tohru... but a girl can wish otherwise. :(

I enjoyed the backstory from Madam Manager; her and her husband seemed to be a GREAT match and I was moved when she gave the ring away... but she def her her jabs in at the end lol she's a saucy old lady!

I look forward to the next episode...
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Tohru's description of a noisy home with five children sounds like Nako's ideal life too.

Still, that's not going to happen. Nice to see Mizuno again, even if only in the background. This was an episode better than average for Hanasaku Iroha, and I am excited for new developments.

I don't believe there will be an unhappy ending- rather, with Tomoe this episode, it almost looks like they are going to pair the spares and couple everyone. That being the case, I have to wonder what their plans for Nako are.
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Tohru's description of a noisy home with five children sounds like Nako's ideal life too.

Still, that's not going to happen. Nice to see Mizuno again, even if only in the background. This was an episode better than average for Hanasaku Iroha, and I am excited for new developments.

I don't believe there will be an unhappy ending- rather, with Tomoe this episode, it almost looks like they are going to pair the spares and couple everyone. That being the case, I have to wonder what their plans for Nako are.


I'm not someone who is a yuri fanatic, but I put my Yuri goggles on for Nako.... she's a yuri magnet :P


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Gosh... I guess my dream of Ohana x Tohru will never work out T__T..

My guess next episode Minko will confess and be rejected, cause she was crying and Tohru obviously doesnt feel that way towards her...

But I feel Tohru and Ohana will never work out v___v.

Based on the title of the next episode I feel Minko will become more determined and eventually his feelings would come across...



I hope this show gets a second season so Ohana can get a love interest! ;___;
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looks like grandma is waiting for senior ohana to take over the place.
i wonder when she'll be reintroduced again, i like ohana's mom. witty and smart.
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That fact that Sui was a waitress and her husband was a chef kinda made me hope that history will repeat itself and Ohana will end up with Tohru. I kinda took it as a sign but not cannot be sure.

I have a feeling Tohru might develop feelings for Minko eventually but who knows. I definitely don't want this to happen as I am a huge Tohru x Ohana fan. The predictable thing is Tohru x Minko and Ohana x Ko but we still cannot be 100% sure. And if nothing happened in the anime, there is still the manga.
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Tohru was a insensitive bastard with Minko at the beach. Seriously, what the hell?
And daaamn, Tohru and Ohana are some dense idiots.
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Tohru was a insensitive bastard with Minko at the beach. Seriously, what the hell?
And daaamn, Tohru and Ohana are some dense idiots.


cough, if anyone is an idiot it's Minko, or she just thinks all men are the sort to take someone to a love hotel when they aren't in a relationship, insensitive?


HOW IS HE INSENSITIVE, in fact he's quite the sensitive guy, I mean he tries to help people with their problems and often understands things (when not relationships in regards to himself, remember Ohana back in the city when he stayed up and talked with her).

He doesn't know she likes him, so what's wrong with talking about someone you do like, to their friend? now that you've said it's insensitive I will never talk about a female friends' friend that I like, just incase I'm being insensitive to her feelings....

Ok sorry that was kind of sarcastic and rude of me, but seriously, stop sympathizing and think logically, Minko hasn't confessed, she hasn't shown anything, Tohru isn't to blame.


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Big tear jerker at the end then granny crushed it LOL
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Engaging in shipping wars causes no small amount of self-loathing for me, but I still do not see the appeal of Tohru x Ohana. It just doesn't make any sense to me in the context of the show and the characters.

I do feel somewhat vindicated by correctly tagging Ohana's response that Minko needs to consider herself more (though I suppose it was kinda predictable given Ohana's character). Also, Tohru's conversation on the beach was still kinda vague, and I almost wouldn't be surprised if the whole love triangle/square debacle just ends up being one big miscommunication clusterf*ck (I think he sees Ohana more like a precocious little sister or maybe a small dog). Minko just needs to get over herself and go all in with the whole Tohru thing.

misc. quick hits:
-Flashback scenes: really sweet, interesting to find out the inn wasn't always in the family.
-Jiroumaru never fails to be awkwardly hilarious for being such a creep.
-Ren-san's chill: I think that was more of a throwaway gag than an actual ship tease.
-Ohana still needs to figure out her baggage with Ko: I can see how some people say "he's not interesting" or "he hasn't been in the show for xx episodes", but what, boring people don't deserve to be loved? >:(
-Does anyone know what music Tohru listens to in the van?
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Damn right I'm not giving the inn to you two losers. I'm giving it to Tomoe. And if she doesn't want it the line of succession is followed in order by Ohana, Toru, Nako, Minko, Taro, and finally the bird that hangs around here.
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Still, instead of feeding the troll, Minko should rather work on her Tohru conquest so her stupidity is to blame there too & LOL @ all the "Tohru is a dumbass fucker blablabla" Suddenly, soooo many feminists... EVERYWHERE!!! How can he be dumb if the girl in question hasn't done anything worth to be considered as being romantically interested in him? Because she was constantly blushing around him? What if she was holding her urination urge and thus is the causality of such blushing? Hurr Durr...

But she wrote L♥VE on his omu-rice!! :)

And stupid Tohru ends up empty handed.

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HOW IS HE INSENSITIVE, in fact he's quite the sensitive guy, I mean he tries to help people with their problems and often understands things (when not relationships in regards to himself, remember Ohana back in the city when he stayed up and talked with her).

Why he did that? Perfect opportunity to get laid! I don't blame him though, but he's definitely not a sensitive one.
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Just finished it episode 21! Minko actions irritated me again and I’m sure many fans and feminists would sympathize w/ her, because it resembles their lives at some point.
Big plot twist by the mother! Who is she allowing to inherit the INN? Satsuki or Ohana (insulting to the uncle)?
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Tohru was a insensitive bastard with Minko at the beach. Seriously, what the hell?
And daaamn, Tohru and Ohana are some dense idiots.
You’ve no right to call Tohru a insensitive bastard, when you didn’t watch the series at all. <Insert sarcasms>
Minko has not directly conveyed feeling to Tohru for the whole series, how the hell does he know she likes him? I bet, to him she is that quiet mean girl, because that’s what I’m getting 2/3 of the time watching this series! Tohru feelings regarding Minko are work friends, nothing more.
Ohana doesn’t have romantic feelings for Tohru and Minko blamed her failing one sided relationship on Ohana, now who’s the insensitive person?
Seeing other fans, happily pairing Tohru and Ohana up, is very disgusting for me to imagine (no offence). I’m only fine w/ OhanaXKo. She needs to mature up and project her feelings correctly toward Ko. I hope Ko is still waiting for her, even though its idiotic decision.

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But she wrote L♥VE on his omu-rice!! :)

And stupid Tohru ends up empty handed.
Oh come on now! Thats horrible way to justify Minko one sided love life.
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The car scene cracked me up
- I should consider marriage
- I want 5 kids
- You know what? let's stop here (in front of the hotel)

Minko just couldn't keep up with his train of thought XD

Anyway, stop fighting about who's the idiot. Tohru, Minko and Ohana are all idiots, as simple as that.
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The car scene cracked me up
- I should consider marriage
- I want 5 kids
- You know what? let's stop here (in front of the hotel)

Minko just couldn't keep up with his train of thought XD

Anyway, stop fighting about who's the idiot. Tohru, Minko and Ohana are all idiots, as simple as that.
Regarding Minko train of thought, she a big pervert!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^

Everyone an idiot at some point, its a learning process for the characters, but anything involving Minko one sided relationship is her own fault! Ohana doesn't have the same feeling as Minko regarding Tohru. Its also unfair toward Tohru, he doesn't know a thing about Minko feelings, all he see is Minko turning away, maybe she has gas? Who the fudge knows?! rofl.

What sad, is that Ohana even give Minko advice >_>
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SkyHigh said:
Probably so, but some shippers can dream, I on the other hand am not interested in pairings in this anymore


I personaly am more interested in the family relationships between GrandmaXMomXUncleXDaughter and to me the cliffhanger indicates this is really what this anime is about.

haha.. you got that right.. this part has been the thing that the series has been focusing most of their drama on (at least, those parts that can actually make people cry and get touched) and any topic related to managing inns.. whether or not Okami would tell her successor or if we get a look into the future of the inn by the final episode is a much larger concern to me..
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SkyHigh said:
HOW IS HE INSENSITIVE, in fact he's quite the sensitive guy, I mean he tries to help people with their problems and often understands things (when not relationships in regards to himself, remember Ohana back in the city when he stayed up and talked with her).

Why he did that? Perfect opportunity to get laid! I don't blame him though, but he's definitely not a sensitive one.


Difference is this is an anime, unless it's hentai or perhaps Seinen, you don't see characters doing kind things in the odd chance that they may get laid, besides have you seen how Tohru acts around girls he has an interest in.... zero experience (or so it seems), so I don't think his immediate plan of action was getting laid from it xD

I think he is sensitive, but can't read a mood, kind of tactless, but he does understand when someone is upset, confused or depressed, but if it's to do with romance towards himself, he is stupid, being sensitive can be many things, but he definately isn't the crying type of sensitive


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Liked this episode, though Minko can be an annoying brat sometimes.
The whole flashback scene was lovely.
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I don't think ohana like Tohru...i hope next episode Minko will confess, then tohru will be able to see her in a new light.

What a good way to end the episode :] Ookami is planning to let ohana inherit the inn~ i think!
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What a good way to end the episode :] Ookami is planning to let ohana inherit the inn~ i think!


That's what I think too. ^^ Who else would she pass it down to if not the young master? Beanman is too old and I don't think there's any chance of Ohana's mom inheriting it. I wonder if Ohana would even want to inherit though.
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I really hope Minchi would confess her feelings to Tohru. It's so obvious that Ohana doesn't like Tohru that way. She's so dense when it comes to any guys liking her.
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I face palmed at the beach scene. Whether or not if he knew she liked him, it still was a "WTF!?!? Toru!" moment.
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What's this business about Tohru being stupid and dense, they have a WORKING relationship in his mind, she hasn't done anything that would truly peak his interest in regards to going out or her having something more than a student/teacher feelings for him, lot's of people call Tooru stupid or an idiot but it can be hard to tell if someone likes you, especially when you believe you only have a certain form of relationship with them, I understand Tooru because I've been in his situation (as in the not understanding that someone likes me or realizing it) so it annoys me when people call him an idiot, though someone of his actions could be classed as idiotic such as the hotel scene, but once again why would he think anything different, he doesn’t know she has feelings for him, and he most likely doesn’t have feelings for her at the moment (that doesn't mean he can't develop some though).
IMO Tooru was stupid most this episode because for a moment it looked like he noticed Minko's blushes and reaction but ignored them I shall place a proof of that as I see the episode as I only saw it online and had no time to wait for subs but he seemed to notice it but ignored it.
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Question to all those who claim Minko has tried so hard, what is it that she has done that gives you such an impression? From what I’ve seen she's basically just been kind, sometimes blushed, sure she's been having a hard TIME over it, but her efforts aren't anything spectacular, lackluster instead would be the best way to put it, I mean think of that bookstore girl who likes Kou, she clearly knows what she wants and she's really tried, she confessed and everything, now compare that to Minko.
Yes she tried really hard to show her face full of expression that may not be obvious at first but a closer look to fine details is all it needs and Tooru should have that in him as a chef. So yes Minko for her character and personality is trying hard but perhaps it may be not enough compared to other girls and the lengths they went in animes to get a character they love.
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Hmm I don't really like Takako or Enishi, but I did feel a slight tingle of warmth from Sui talking with Takako, but then she trolls them telling Takako she isn't inheriting the Inn.
Of course Takako is not inheriting the inn because it must be Ohana!.
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(P.S. anyone with Yuri goggles on should have noticed Mizuno and Nako blush in unison when Yuina mentioned the red curtains being kind of erotic!)
I said that the first time, my friend totally went bonkers on me saying I am exaggerating and 2 episodes down the road I am totally right! HA! Yeah pretty much.

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IMO Tooru was stupid most this episode because for a moment it looked like he noticed Minko's blushes and reaction but ignored them I shall place a proof of that as I see the episode as I only saw it online and had no time to wait for subs but he seemed to notice it but ignored it.
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Question to all those who claim Minko has tried so hard, what is it that she has done that gives you such an impression? From what I’ve seen she's basically just been kind, sometimes blushed, sure she's been having a hard TIME over it, but her efforts aren't anything spectacular, lackluster instead would be the best way to put it, I mean think of that bookstore girl who likes Kou, she clearly knows what she wants and she's really tried, she confessed and everything, now compare that to Minko.
Yes she tried really hard to show her face full of expression that may not be obvious at first but a closer look to fine details is all it needs and Tooru should have that in him as a chef. So yes Minko for her character and personality is trying hard but perhaps it may be not enough compared to other girls and the lengths they went in animes to get a character they love


You do know that people can blush from many things right, even if he noticed the blush and ignored it, that means nothing, should I think every girl who blushes around me wants me or something? Probably not, it would lead to a lot of misunderstandings :P

He could have ignored a blush to make her not feel embarrassed after all Tohru is no mind reader, except when it's Ohana and then he can sometimes do it.... wierd.

Showing facial expressions is not enough, it really is not enough, it's as if she is trying to give him hints and then he has to decifer them and then ask her out because she can't do it herself, been there when I was a very shy person, it doesn't work, people don't know what you're thinking, so you have to come out and say it, regardless of all the nice/lovey dovey??? looks you give them or kind facial expressions and so forth, in the end Minko wasn't doing enough and thus Tohru stood no chance of knowing :P

Btw I am guessing you are a Minko x Tohru supporter or something, I personally have no pairings for this, got sick of it after around 12-14 episodes when I realised nothing is going to happen :P


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Jolon said:
Tohru's description of a noisy home with five children sounds like Nako's ideal life too.
Well she can handle them so if Tooru can then so much the better but as a cook his job is super busy.
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Gosh... I guess my dream of Ohana x Tohru will never work out T__T..
Well someone said of the back story being Sui and her husband being a cook, well could be a foreshadow of Tooru x Ohana but I want my Minko x Tooru and Ohana x Kou. It would be awesome if Kou get into the inn and blows off Tooru with his cook skills. Who knows.
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Tohru was a insensitive bastard with Minko at the beach. Seriously, what the hell?
Yeah agree, Tooru you dense moron! I really got pissed off at that Ohana mention, again Tooru was too dense to realize the hurt he caused to Minko with that one word.
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Also, Tohru's conversation on the beach was still kinda vague, and I almost wouldn't be surprised if the whole love triangle/square debacle just ends up being one big miscommunication clusterf*ck
I would not be surprised in regards to your mention being a sudden rushed ending. I would prefer not to and have things solves naturally or logically but haste is known to make waste so who know if that will happen. Your statement does lead into thinking that.
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(I think he sees Ohana more like a precocious little sister or maybe a small dog). Minko just needs to get over herself and go all in with the whole Tohru thing.
I agree with that, he does see her as a cute thing but I would not bet too much of it because he blushed a few times while thinking about her so it could be love too.

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was i the only one thinking holy SH** when Madam Manager was bowing, only then to be trolled by her in the end.


ps poor minko can't be honest with ourselves now can we?.
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